Re: [Wikitech-l] git.wikimedia.org (Gitblit) going away on June 29th, redirected to Phabricator

2016-06-21 Thread Platonides
On 21/06/16 23:16, Greg Grossmeier wrote: == tl;dr == On June 29th git.wikimedia.org (running Gitblit) will redirect all requests to Phabricator. The vast majority of requests will be correctly redirected. == What is happening? == In an effort to reduce the maintenance burden of redudant

Re: [Wikitech-l] Short license blocks

2015-10-27 Thread Platonides
On 27/10/15 19:54, Antoine Musso wrote: I think we standardized the MediaWiki core files at one point to include the recommended GPL headers. The commit history should have such trace. We did. Copyright headers were added for files which lacked it, much to my dismay. Actual descriptions of

Re: [Wikitech-l] thumb generation

2015-09-14 Thread Platonides
On 15/09/15 01:34, wp mirror wrote: Idea. I am thinking of piping the *pages-articles.xml.bz2 dump file through an AWK script to write all unique [[File:*]] tags into a file. This can be done quickly. The question then is: Given a file with all the media tags, how can I generate all the thumbs.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Idea: Cryptographically signed wiki pages.

2015-09-14 Thread Platonides
On 13/09/15 18:20, Purodha Blissenbach wrote: The idea is that third parties can publish texts, such as theis statutes, via a open or public wiki, and readers can be sure to read, download, sign, and mail the originals. Another use would be to have pledges and petitions signed by many people.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator monthly statistics - 2015-08

2015-09-02 Thread Platonides
On 02/09/15 00:12, Quim Gil wrote: Wikimedia Phabricator will be soon one year old! On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 2:00 AM, wrote: Number of accounts created in (2015-08): 288 Kind of surprised about the fact that we keep having almost ten new Phabricator users

Re: [Wikitech-l] What happened to our user agent requirements?

2015-09-01 Thread Platonides
Brad Jorsch (Anomie) wrote: I wonder if it got lost in the move from Squid to Varnish, or something along those lines. That's likely, given that it was enforced by squid. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Improving CAPTCHA friendliness for humans, and increasing CAPTCHA difficulty for bots

2015-08-25 Thread Platonides
Jamison Lofthouse wrote: The subject sounds exactly like the reCAPTCHA https://www.google.com/recaptcha/intro/index.html tagline. Not sure how beneficial the project would be but I have seen it used. Maybe worth looking into. Thanks, Negative24 I should note that the latest reCAPTCHA¹ is

Re: [Wikitech-l] Must the logging table be in chronological order?

2015-04-07 Thread Platonides
On 07/04/15 18:54, Daniel Barrett wrote: Will anything bad happen if entries in the MediaWiki logging table are not inserted in chronological order? Due to a bug, our logging table has incomplete data. I'd like to insert the missing data using a script. However, the log_id column is

Re: [Wikitech-l] E-mail login to wiki - needs feedback

2015-02-22 Thread Platonides
, login is case-sensitive (e.g., MZ and Mz can be different users). In your experience, is MediaWiki's current authentication architecture following common or best practices? I personally think there's a lot of work needed. MZMcBride Emails are case-sensitive as well. platonides@gmail is different

Re: [Wikitech-l] E-mail login to wiki - needs feedback

2015-02-22 Thread Platonides
On 20/02/15 00:58, phoebe ayers wrote: Hi all, I'm the one who started that bug-now-task a while back, and for context, it was based directly on user feedback. What MzM says above is right. I was working with a casual (but quite good) editor who said to me well, I'd edit that Wikipedia page,

Re: [Wikitech-l] GPL upgrading to version 3

2015-02-09 Thread Platonides
On 09/02/15 20:37, Tyler Romeo wrote: This entire conversation is a bit disappointing, mainly because I am a supporter of the free software movement, and like to believe that users should have a right to see the source code of software they use. Obviously not everybody feels this way and not

Re: [Wikitech-l] Our CAPTCHA is very unfriendly

2014-12-11 Thread Platonides
Max Semenik wrote: I'm pretty sure most users technical enough to use IRC are able to solve captchas well. That the backend is irc-based doesn't mean the would use a IRC frontend. We routinely point to web irc, and plenty of noobs have proven able to reach there (sometimes even thinking we

Re: [Wikitech-l] Our CAPTCHA is very unfriendly

2014-11-09 Thread Platonides
On 09/11/14 06:21, Pine W wrote: Discussing an option with the community to test replacing registration CAPTCHAs with an email requirement makes sense to me. I would support a small, carefully designed test. If someone is motivated to create a Wikimedia account and they don't want to register an

Re: [Wikitech-l] Our CAPTCHA is very unfriendly

2014-11-09 Thread Platonides
On 07/11/14 02:52, Jon Harald Søby wrote: The main concern is obviously that it is really hard to read, but there are also some other issues, namely that all the fields in the user registration form (except for the username) are wiped if you enter the CAPTCHA incorrectly. So when you make a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Our CAPTCHA is very unfriendly

2014-11-09 Thread Platonides
On 09/11/14 17:19, Marc A. Pelletier wrote: On 11/09/2014 10:20 AM, Brian Wolff wrote: Does anyone have any attack scenario that is remotely plausible which requiring a verified email would prevent? Spambots (of which there are multitude, and that hammer any mediawiki site constantly) have

Re: [Wikitech-l] !ask

2014-01-24 Thread Platonides
On 20/01/14 08:26, Petr Bena wrote: There is one more feature available on wm-bot. First of all, that thing is smart enough to recognize who is irc newbie and who is not. It is possible to direct this only to people who are known to the bot (their cloak is trusted) so that it doesn't bite the

Re: [Wikitech-l] $wgDBmysql5

2013-12-31 Thread Platonides
On 30/12/13 23:21, Tyler Romeo wrote: As the subject implies, there is a variable named $wgDBmysql5. I am inclined to believe that the purpose of this variable is to use features only available in MySQL 5.0 or later. The specific implementation affects the encoding in the database.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Facebook Open Academy

2013-11-24 Thread Platonides
On 23/11/13 02:03, Marc A. Pelletier wrote: Interestingly enough, I /do/ have a project I'd be happy to put forward that's quite in scope if we'd like to touch on something more system-level than our usual UX fare: there is a serious hole in reasonably self-contained distributed cron-like

Re: [Wikitech-l] PHP 5.4 (we wish)

2013-06-21 Thread Platonides
On 21/06/13 12:32, Paul Selitskas wrote: We should have stayed on PHP4 if this is a trouble. Perfomance may be a problem (which is not much in 5.4 iirc), syntax flaws may be a problem (and this one fixes one of the flaws). Yes, it will take us some time to upgrade MW to 5.4 or 5.5, but

Re: [Wikitech-l] PHP 5.4 (we wish)

2013-06-21 Thread Platonides
Le 21/06/13 21:03, Antoine Musso a écrit: If you want a playground, we could get both backported packages on the beta cluster (labs project: deployment-prep). That might help catch some potential issues. I have no idea how we could get different versions in production and labs, but I am sure

Re: [Wikitech-l] Just noticed GitBlit

2013-06-06 Thread Platonides
On 06/06/13 07:21, Daniel Friesen wrote: Side topic, anyone want to voice their bikeshed opinions on their favorite the different ways of disambiguating a / inside urls for various types of web UIs to repositories: - Rejecting slash in repository names /.../mediawiki-core/... (ie: GitHub :/) -

Re: [Wikitech-l] Welcome to Ken Snider, Wikimedia Operations

2013-06-06 Thread Platonides
On 06/06/13 18:17, Erik Moeller wrote: I want to again take this opportunity to thank CT Woo for his tireless operations leadership since December 2010. I’d also like to thank everyone who’s participated in the Director of TechOps search process. Since Dec 2010. Time flies! Welcome Ken!

Re: [Wikitech-l] Separation of Concerns

2013-06-05 Thread Platonides
On 05/06/13 15:42, Brad Jorsch wrote: There's nothing wrong with having a large list of fine-grained rights to grant as long as you format them properly for the user. In other words, implement another rights-grouping system just as complicated and less clear than the approach currently

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tomorrow (June 6th): The start of one-week deploy cycle!

2013-06-05 Thread Platonides
On 05/06/13 20:07, Greg Grossmeier wrote: Hi all! Tomorrow we start the one-week deploy cycle here at WMF! You can see the general overview of the cycle here: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments/One_week And the specific roadmap/plan for MediaWiki (with version numbers/dates)

Re: [Wikitech-l] Separation of Concerns

2013-06-04 Thread Platonides
On 05/06/13 01:17, Tyler Romeo wrote: By saying you can only use OAuth if you're open source, it's the same as saying if you're closed source you must use insecure authentication methods. Because just saying OAuth must be open source isn't going to stop closed source developers. Yes, of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Separation of Concerns

2013-06-04 Thread Platonides
On 05/06/13 02:37, Tyler Romeo wrote: On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Chris Steippcste...@wikimedia.org wrote: We initially were going to use your patch and limit based on module, but there were a few places where that seemed too course. But then if we just used user rights, then to edit a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Brian Wolff's summer gig, with Wikimedia!

2013-06-03 Thread Platonides
Rob Lanphier wrote: Hi everyone, Many of you already know Brian Wolff, who has been a steady contributor to MediaWiki in the the past several years (User:Bawolff), having gotten a start during Google Summer of Code 2010[1]. Brian is back for another summer working with us, working

Re: [Wikitech-l] Replacement for tagging in Gerrit

2013-05-07 Thread Platonides
On 06/05/13 18:12, Guillaume Paumier wrote: Hi, On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 2:11 AM, Rob Lanphier ro...@wikimedia.org wrote: Short version: This mail is fishing for feedback on proposed work on Gerrit-Bugzilla integration to replace code review tags. I was wondering: has a decision been made

Re: [Wikitech-l] GSoC mentors: selection process

2013-05-07 Thread Platonides
On 05/06/2013 01:12 PM, Siebrand Mazeland (WMF) wrote: I would like to provide some feedback, too: The whole process of GSoC was very confusing to me. Students communicated on melange, mediawiki.org http://mediawiki.org, and mailing lists. Some also emailed me and others privately. This

Re: [Wikitech-l] Extensions History in enwiki

2013-05-04 Thread Platonides
On 04/05/13 20:57, Krinkle wrote: PS: The public mediawiki-config.git only dates back to 24 Feb 2012. Before that date the information was in a non-public svn repository inside the wmf-production cluster. Rather than using mediawiki-config, you may have more luck using

Re: [Wikitech-l] GSoC Project Idea

2013-04-29 Thread Platonides
On 26/04/13 22:23, Kiran Mathew Koshy wrote: Hi guys, I have an own idea for my GSoC project that I'd like to share with you. Its not a perfect one, so please forgive any mistakes. The project is related to the existing GSoC project *Incremental Data dumps * , but is in no way a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Heads up: small new feature in ConfirmEdit

2013-04-19 Thread Platonides
On 19/04/13 00:21, Steven Walling wrote: Hi all, This is a heads up that we've added a small new feature which hopefully will make things less painful for users across the projects: the ability to refresh the CAPTCHA you're presented without refreshing the entire page. It should work

Re: [Wikitech-l] Project Idea for GSoC 2013 - Bayesian Spam Filter

2013-04-15 Thread Platonides
On 14/04/13 15:41, anubhav agarwal wrote: I don't we could take in account the roll back for automated learning. It is not necessary that the person who edited the document, then rolled it back did because it was a spam. Getting the right data to train from is hard, since wiki is so flexible.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikivoyage and Universal Language Selector

2013-04-15 Thread Platonides
On 15/04/13 21:40, ro...@rogerchrisman.com wrote: Hi, What is the best way to install, modify and configure the Universal Language Selector extension so that I can see how it might work with Wikivoyage? I created an account at https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Rogerhc but it is

Re: [Wikitech-l] Project Idea for GSoC 2013 - Bayesian Spam Filter

2013-04-12 Thread Platonides
On 09/04/13 18:20, Quim Gil wrote: Hi Anubhav, I have done a first reality check with Chris Steipp, who oversees the area of security and also spam prevention. Your idea is interesting and it seems to be feasible. This is a very good first step! It would require adding a hook to MediaWiki

Re: [Wikitech-l] User signature time wrapped in a span

2013-04-04 Thread Platonides
Yes, you would have to change it at Parser.php That point would be the appropiate one. However, given the large amount of already-posted timestamps (and that some people may not want the spans in the wiki source), why not simply use a regex to replace the dates in the page?

Re: [Wikitech-l] Cannot run the maintenance script

2013-03-26 Thread Platonides
On 25/03/13 23:19, Rahul Maliakkal wrote: I installed SMW extension in my local wiki yesterday and now when i visit a page in my local wiki i get this message A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was: (SQL

Re: [Wikitech-l] Moving a GitHub Pull Request to Gerrit Changeset manually

2013-03-26 Thread Platonides
This should work: WIKIMEDIA_REPOS=/path/where/you/have/your/clones REPO=$1 # qa/browsertests PULL=$2 # https://github.com/brainwane/qa-browsertests.git TEMP=`mktemp --tmpdir -d pull-request.XXX` git clone --reference=$WIKIMEDIA_REPOS/$REPO $PULL $TEMP cd $TEMP if [ ! -f .gitreview ]; then

Re: [Wikitech-l] Who is responsible for communicating changes in MediaWiki to WMF sites?

2013-03-26 Thread Platonides
On 25/03/13 23:35, Greg Grossmeier wrote: Thanks for the link, but the reason I brought it up is because my first week here I saw a removal of a function without an explicit @deprecated warning. :-) Greg Is it possible that it was a recently-introduced function that hadn't been published

Re: [Wikitech-l] Who is responsible for communicating changes in MediaWiki to WMF sites?

2013-03-25 Thread Platonides
On 25/03/13 18:39, Greg Grossmeier wrote: * Deprecations - SELF-TODO: We don't have any guarantee, that I can see, that we deprecate for X releases before we remove Not exactly a guarantee, but the general rule we use is to keep deprecated for a couple releases before removing. It's briefly

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC How/whether MediaWiki could use ZendOptimizuerPlus -- ZendOptimizerPlus, opcode cache, PHP 5.4, APC, memcache ???

2013-03-22 Thread Platonides
Trying to clarify: APC can do two things: 1) Keep the compiled php opcodes, so php execution is faster. 2) Allow the application to store values in the web server memory (kept accross requests). ZendOptimizer only does 1. MediaWiki only needs to be changed for 2, since 1 is done automatically

Re: [Wikitech-l] CAPTCHA

2013-03-22 Thread Platonides
On 21/03/13 08:05, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: Restrictive wikis for captchas are only a handful (plus pt.wiki which is in permanent emergency mode). https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Newly_registered_user For them you could request confirmed flag at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/SRP

Re: [Wikitech-l] Who is responsible for communicating changes in MediaWiki to WMF sites?

2013-03-21 Thread Platonides
Is sending an email to wikitech-ambassadors enough for unblocking it? Although such should contain a timeframe expectation, which probably only WMF can give. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Reminder about the best way to link to bugs in commits

2013-03-20 Thread Platonides
On 20/03/13 11:59, Niklas Laxström wrote: 1) Why is Bug:43778 different from bug:43778 when searching? 2) Can we do the same for all things in the footer? I tried it but bug seems to be a special case and nothing else works. The stored things are set in gerrit config.

Re: [Wikitech-l] open positions at WMF

2013-03-19 Thread Platonides
On 19/03/13 00:54, Sumana Harihareswara wrote: Thomas, thank you for writing to us and mentioning that you're available for work! I'd love for you to take a look at the Wikimedia Foundation's job openings. For most of them, telecommuting is fine. That's a bit misleading, as only a couple

Re: [Wikitech-l] Default policy for third-party cookies in Firefox

2013-03-19 Thread Platonides
On 19/03/13 14:38, Seb35 wrote: Hello, According to [1] and [2], Firefox 22 (release June 25, 2013) will change the default third-party cookie policy: a third-party cookie will be authorized only if there is already a cookie set on the third-party website. This would break most of the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Default policy for third-party cookies in Firefox

2013-03-19 Thread Platonides
On 19/03/13 17:41, Chris Steipp wrote: On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Brion Vibber br...@pobox.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 7:52 AM, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: An idea to fix it would be to take advantage of the new certificate which includes all projects, by having firefox

Re: [Wikitech-l] Default policy for third-party cookies in Firefox

2013-03-19 Thread Platonides
On 19/03/13 19:21, Jon Robson wrote: Chris: On the latest iPhone cookies were not accepted from iframes from sites that were not visited. You had to physically visit the site by following a link or typing the url into the address bar first. We are currently investigating whether meta refresh

Re: [Wikitech-l] Detect running from maintenance script in a parser function extension

2013-03-12 Thread Platonides
On 12/03/13 18:47, Toni Hermoso Pulido wrote: Hello, I'm checking whether I can detect that a process is run from a maintenance script in a parser function extension. Which would be the best way / more recommendable to detect it? Thanks! Why do you want to do it? It is probably a bad

Re: [Wikitech-l] Replacement for tagging in Gerrit

2013-03-12 Thread Platonides
Doing the tags in Gerrit is the right thing. Who can change them is not a problem, just make a changetags log. (BTW, you would have the same problem in bugzilla with people removing that superimportant tag) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] Nightly shallow clones of mediawiki/core

2013-03-11 Thread Platonides
On 11/03/13 00:17, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: Answered Inline. Also, I apologize as I think my email was slightly off-topic to Ori's question. On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 6:57 PM, Matthew Flaschen mflasc...@wikimedia.orgwrote: PHPMyAdmin also has major security issues. It isn't allowed on

Re: [Wikitech-l] Category sorting in random order

2013-03-11 Thread Platonides
On 12/03/13 00:05, Paul Selitskas wrote: Git review, of course. The log is here: http://pastebin.com/iC4N1am0 Everyone can send patches to all repositories. If you get an error doing that, it's not that You are denied, it's some configuration problem. In this case, it looks like you didn't have

Re: [Wikitech-l] Announcing the Wikimedia technical search tool

2013-03-10 Thread Platonides
On 10/03/13 15:50, Waldir Pimenta wrote: The motivation for the tool came from a post by Niklas [1], specifically the section Coping with the proliferation of tools within your community. In the comments section, Nemo announced his initiative to create a custom google search to fit at least

Re: [Wikitech-l] Nightly shallow clones of mediawiki/core

2013-03-10 Thread Platonides
On 10/03/13 22:39, Chad wrote: Hi, I've been thinking about this for the last week or so because it's becoming incredibly clear to me that core isn't scaling. It's already taking up over 4GB on the Gerrit box, and this is the primary reason core operations are slow. 4GB?? My not specially

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bug 1542 - Log spam blacklist hits

2013-03-09 Thread Platonides
Chris Steipp wrote: csteipp. Feel free to ping me whenever. And platonides :) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mediawiki's access points and mw-config

2013-03-09 Thread Platonides
On 09/03/13 15:47, Waldir Pimenta wrote: So mw-config can't be deleted after all? Or you mean the installer at includes/installer? Is you mean the former, then how about run-installer instead of my previous proposal of first-run? Any of these would be clearer than mw-config, imo. --Waldir

Re: [Wikitech-l] Seemingly proprietary Javascript

2013-03-07 Thread Platonides
On 06/03/13 16:28, Jay Ashworth wrote: To “convey” a work means any kind of propagation that enables other parties to make or receive copies. Mere interaction with a user through a computer network, with no transfer of a copy, is not conveying. As javascript is executed in the client, it

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bug 1542 - Log spam blacklist hits

2013-03-07 Thread Platonides
On 07/03/13 21:03, anubhav agarwal wrote: Hey Chris I was exploring SpamBlaklist Extension. I have some doubts hope you could clear them. Is there any place I can get documentation of Class SpamBlacklist in the file SpamBlacklist_body.php. ? In function filter what does the following

Re: [Wikitech-l] Seemingly proprietary Javascript

2013-03-06 Thread Platonides
On 05/03/13 21:55, Matthew Flaschen wrote: If it does turn out we legally *need* more license preservation/disclosure, we should add more license preservation. Getting a special get out of jail free card for WMF only is not acceptable. Our sites run free software, software that anyone can

Re: [Wikitech-l] Seemingly proprietary Javascript

2013-03-06 Thread Platonides
On 06/03/13 13:24, Platonides wrote: I just checked and there are 73 authors of the resources of MediaWiki core. More than I expected, but not unworkable. We could relicense our css and javascript as MIT, MPL, GPL-with-explicit-exception... I was going to provide the full list: $ git log

Re: [Wikitech-l] Seemingly proprietary Javascript

2013-03-05 Thread Platonides
On 05/03/13 14:07, Alexander Berntsen wrote: On 05/03/13 13:18, Max Semenik wrote: If you mean that we have to insert that huge chunk of comments from [1] into every page, the answer is no because we'll have to include several licenses here, making it ridiculously long. Please see the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Seemingly proprietary Javascript

2013-03-05 Thread Platonides
On 05/03/13 21:53, Matthew Flaschen wrote: On 03/05/2013 12:29 PM, Luke Welling WMF wrote: We should discuss them separately, but this core mediawiki JS is GPL2 https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-core/tree/master/resources I am referring to Isarra's comment: The licensing information

Re: [Wikitech-l] Reminder about the best way to link to bugs in commits

2013-03-02 Thread Platonides
On 01/03/13 23:59, Daniel Friesen wrote: On Fri, 01 Mar 2013 14:45:14 -0800, Nischay Nahata wrote I also prefer it in the header. The bug report is the best description :) Is it not possible for Gerrit to search if its in the header? or make it so +1 Tools should be coded around people.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Reminder about the best way to link to bugs in commits

2013-03-02 Thread Platonides
On 02/03/13 19:13, Bartosz Dziewoński wrote: So you're volunteering to write release notes for my commits? By all means, if so. But I'm afraid this would end with simply no release notes being written. Who would want to read and deeply understand 2000 commit messages per release to note

Re: [Wikitech-l] Purpose of #wikimedia-dev

2013-02-28 Thread Platonides
On 28/02/13 18:48, Brion Vibber wrote: On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 6:20 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: it's blocked in my office as well, there are many ways to get through the firewall... most simple is just to install a bouncer or use irssi in a terminal of remote server if port 22 is

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Labs-l] Nagios is dead, long live icinga!

2013-02-27 Thread Platonides
On 27/02/13 18:47, Tim Landscheidt wrote: Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: In addition to this I migrated labs nagios to icinga as well, few minutes ago - http://nagios.wmflabs.org/icinga/ [...] Interestingly, Google Chrome claims that this page is in French and asks whether it

Re: [Wikitech-l] Purpose of #wikimedia-dev

2013-02-27 Thread Platonides
On 27/02/13 15:23, Tyler Romeo wrote: Also, with the exception of asking for technical help, I don't really like IRC for developer discussion, and it's not just because I don't go on IRC. If you are coding/reviewing MW code, I recommend you to be available on the irc channel. That way we could

Re: [Wikitech-l] cleaning database of spam

2013-02-26 Thread Platonides
On 26/02/13 11:57, Petr Bena wrote: Hi, this is more related to mediawiki rather than wikimedia, but this list is being watched a bit more I guess. Is there any extension that allows permanent removal of deleted pages (or eventually selected deleted pages) from database and removal of

Re: [Wikitech-l] LQT and MediaWiki

2013-02-24 Thread Platonides
On 23/02/13 23:58, Mark A. Hershberger wrote: That is, I think it is safe to say LQT will remain usable in its current state on any coming MW versions for the foreseeable future. Right now, though, all I'm looking for is a confirmation that it will remain usable. I imagine one of the first

Re: [Wikitech-l] Caching Discussion: Dealing with old (deleted) wmf branches

2013-02-23 Thread Platonides
Another option is just to only keep old versions of skins folder (1.4M) Given that CSS and JS go through the RL, the few images we use and link from the html could probably be squeezed in a single static path, though. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Wmfall] Luis Villa joins WMF as Deputy General Counsel

2013-02-21 Thread Platonides
El 20/02/13 00:49, Luis Villa escribió: Hah... I think calling me a developer is, at this point, a bit of a stretch, but I look forward to working with the tech team :) ¡Welcome, Luis! ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] EasyRDF dependency

2013-02-21 Thread Platonides
On 21/02/13 10:18, Denny Vrandečić wrote: After evaluating different options, we want to use for generating Wikidata's RDF export the EasyRDF library: http://www.easyrdf.org/ We only need a part of it -- whatever deals with serializers. We do not need parsers, anything to do with SPARQL,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mediawiki's access points and mw-config

2013-02-19 Thread Platonides
Platonides) the installer used to be in the config folder, until the rewrite, which *moved the classes* to includes/installer (emphasis mine). If the classes were moved to includes/installer, why did those of overrides.php's remain? Read the beginning of overrides.php: ?php /** * MediaWiki

Re: [Wikitech-l] Using wiki pages as databases

2013-02-19 Thread Platonides
On 19/02/13 13:56, Tyler Romeo wrote: So unfortunately I don't have a clear idea of what the problem is, primarily because I don't know anything about the Parser and its inner workings, but as far as having all the data in one page, here's something. Maybe this is a bad idea, but how about

Re: [Wikitech-l] Welcome Greg Grossmeier, Release Manager

2013-02-19 Thread Platonides
Welcome Greg! ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mediawiki's access points and mw-config

2013-02-18 Thread Platonides
On 15/02/13 17:28, Waldir Pimenta wrote: On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: On 15/02/13 09:16, Waldir Pimenta wrote: 1) should all access points be on the root directory of the wiki, for consistency? No. The installer is on its on folder on purpose, so

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mediawiki's access points and mw-config

2013-02-15 Thread Platonides
On 15/02/13 09:16, Waldir Pimenta wrote: While trying to add some more information to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Code, I came across a slightly peculiar issue regarding the entry points for MediaWiki: Right now, among all the entry points that I know of (those are listed in

[Wikitech-l] When to automerge (Re: Revoking +2 (Re: who can merge into core/master?))

2013-02-15 Thread Platonides
On 15/02/13 01:38, Brad Jorsch wrote: I'd propose one more: * Someone else gives +2, but Jenkins rejects it because it needs a rebase that is not quite trivial enough for it to do it automatically. For example, something in RELEASE-NOTES-1.21. Seems a better example. I'm not convinced that

Re: [Wikitech-l] When to automerge (Re: Revoking +2 (Re: who can merge into core/master?))

2013-02-15 Thread Platonides
On 15/02/13 18:51, Chris Steipp wrote: This process is painful (no one like reviewing patches in bugzilla), and the wrangling to get the right people to review patches in bugzilla is slowing down our security releases. It would be much better if we had a way to submit the patches in gerrit, go

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Labs-l] Maria DB

2013-02-14 Thread Platonides
On 14/02/13 18:26, Faidon Liambotis wrote: Ubuntu has experimented in the past with the concept of automatically generating and shipping symbols for *all* packages, packaged up in a ddebs (same format as .deb) and shipped via a different repository that isn't mirrored by all of the downstream

Re: [Wikitech-l] Announcement: Ed Sanders joins Wikimedia as Visual Editor Software Engineer

2013-02-12 Thread Platonides
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Corporate needs are different (RE: How can we help Corporations use MW?)

2013-02-12 Thread Platonides
On 12/02/13 06:26, Brian Wolff wrote: For subpages to really fill this use case I think the page title would have to show only (or primarily emphasize) the subpage name instead of the full page name. I think it has been brought up in the past, there may be an extension doing that. Also it

Re: [Wikitech-l] Corporate needs are different (RE: How can we help Corporations use MW?)

2013-02-09 Thread Platonides
On 08/02/13 21:51, Lee Worden wrote: As an aside, you could almost certainly do this cheaper with WorkingWiki. If you can write a make rule to retrieve the Excel file from the network drive and make it into html and image files (and maybe a little wikitext to format the page), you're done.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia engineering January 2013 report

2013-02-09 Thread Platonides
On 07/02/13 21:54, Chad wrote: On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 3:50 PM, Platonides wrote: Also worth mentioning, our SVN is now read-only. This actually happened on Feb 1st :) -Chad I did check before sending. «Marking all of SVN as read-only» sent Jan 24th. Follow-up the next day saying

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia engineering January 2013 report

2013-02-07 Thread Platonides
On 07/02/13 20:57, Guillaume Paumier wrote: *Git conversion https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Conversion* The ExtensionDistributorhttps://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ExtensionDistributorwas rewritten in early January. While this was primarily done to support the data center

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: RFC: Introducing two new HTTP headers to track mobile pageviews

2013-02-02 Thread Platonides
I don't like it's cryptic nature. Someone looking at the headers sent to his browser would be very confused about what's the point of «X-MF-Mode: b». Instead something like this would be much more descriptive: X-Mobile-Mode: stable X-Mobile-Request: secondary But that also means sending more

Re: [Wikitech-l] Audio derivatives, turning on MP3/AAC mobile app feature request.

2013-02-02 Thread Platonides
Your system does not seem to support OGG audio format. Downloading this file without ogg support may need a significant amount of space and bandwith. Downloading article.wav ... 20% ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Mediawiki-api] Reporting errors from the API

2013-01-25 Thread Platonides
On 25/01/13 16:54, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: Localization in v2 - all errors AND warnings are localized in default language unless lang= is given, in which case you can get parameter array or a non-default language. All standard translation magic (plural/gender/etc) will be supported. Warnings

Re: [Wikitech-l] Welcome, Munagala Ramanath (Ram)

2013-01-15 Thread Platonides
Please join me in welcoming Ram! Rob It's always good to get more ram! :) Welcome! ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] The ultimate bikeshed: typos in commit messages

2013-01-15 Thread Platonides
Well, I would prefer to get a notice that I made a typo than having that embarrassing typo in the commit log forever. That's the point of using a gating system, right? :) So yes, I do think they should be corrected. (And I have committed typos in both commit messages and inside files, just as

Re: [Wikitech-l] Problem to get an article's content in MW 1.20.2

2013-01-15 Thread Platonides
On 15/01/13 14:44, Andreas Plank wrote: Hi, I'm using MW 1.20.2 and I want to get the content of a page for further parsing in a PHP application. The PHP application is triggered via a special page (Special:MobileKeyV1) and parses nature guides for mobile devices. I tried to get the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Html comments into raw wiki code: can they be wrapped into parsed html?

2012-12-29 Thread Platonides
On 29/12/12 22:23, Alex Brollo wrote: I'd like to use html comment into raw wiki text, to use them as effective, server-unexpensive data containers that could be read and parsed by a js script in view mode. But I see that html comment, written into raw wiki text, are stripped away by parsing

Re: [Wikitech-l] Can we help Tor users make legitimate edits?

2012-12-29 Thread Platonides
On 28/12/12 18:29, Tilman Bayer wrote: On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 1:26 AM, Sumana Harihareswara wrote: I've floated this problem past Tor and privacy people, and here are a few ideas: 1) Just use the existing mechanisms more leniently. Encourage the communities (Wikimedia Tor) to use

Re: [Wikitech-l] Clarification on unit tests requiring CR+2

2012-12-19 Thread Platonides
On 19/12/12 20:48, Krinkle wrote: This issue will be definitely solved by isolating tests in dedicated virtual machines for each run. We are investigating Vagrant. A VM seems overkill when it can be solved with standard user permissions + chroot (or even better, a bsd jail)

Re: [Wikitech-l] Simplified Gerrit ACLs.

2012-12-13 Thread Platonides
I found that I no longer can +1 to operations (in this case operations/mediawiki-config, c38631). The only options are 0 and -1. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] gerrit support question: how to show raw file content after the commit in the browser, not as zip download

2012-12-12 Thread Platonides
On 12/12/12 09:09, Ryan Kaldari wrote: I found a solution to the problem: If a gerrit administrator declares the mimetypes of the files to be safe they will be displayed in-browser rather than downloaded as zip files:

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bugzilla: Waiting for merge status when patch is in Gerrit?

2012-12-12 Thread Platonides
On 12/12/12 21:23, Rob Lanphier wrote: My 2cif we add a new status, it should equate to deployed on the cluster, along with judicious use of milestone so that people who are just interested in the tarball can infer from our numbering what the corresponding release will be. On which wiki?

Re: [Wikitech-l] Jenkins and extension parser tests

2012-12-11 Thread Platonides
If you only want to run parser tests from a different file, there's no need to create a new class. You simply add in the main file: $wgParserTestFiles[] = dirname( __FILE__ ) . /lstParserTests.txt; (already in lst.php) It will be automagically picked when running the phpunit tests (if you have

Re: [Wikitech-l] Recent test failures for many extensions

2012-12-11 Thread Platonides
I don't think they are really a problem. core was broken (it shouldn't contain submodules), thus all tests failed. As c37975 was an automerge, jenkins didn't have the chance to stop it. It would be interesting if jenkins would -2 whenever a change is sent to master branch with a parent in a

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Groups are official: start your own!

2012-12-11 Thread Platonides
On 12/12/12 00:44, bawolff wrote: I'm actually quite curious to see if there are actually enough MW devs in a single city (Other then WMF's home town) to form a group. To be honest though, I kind of feel that if such groups were going to form, they probably would have already. Formality

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