Re: [Wikitech-l] Is Foxway a right way?

2014-03-26 Thread Pavel Astakhov
Hi, I have written example of how my idea works[1]. Also, I have benchmark test with LUA. [2] Surprisingly, the performance of my solution is higher than has LUA. Maybe it's not a very good comparison, but I made it is not to be used in this way. If it is used for its intended purpose, the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Is Foxway a right way?

2014-01-14 Thread Pavel Astakhov
13.01.2014 14:58, Pavel Astakhov пишет: Hi! I would like to discuss an idea. In MediaWiki is not very convenient to docomputingusing the syntax of the wiki. We have to use several extensions like Variables, Arrays, ParserFunctions and others. If there are a lot of computing, such as data

[Wikitech-l] Is Foxway a right way?

2014-01-13 Thread Pavel Astakhov
Hi! I would like to discuss an idea. In MediaWiki is not very convenient to docomputingusing the syntax of the wiki. We have to use several extensions like Variables, Arrays, ParserFunctions and others. If there are a lot of computing, such as data processing received from Semantic MediaWiki,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Is Foxway a right way?

2014-01-13 Thread Tyler Romeo
How does this compare to the PECL runkit extension? Also have you benchmarked it against Scribunto? Because Scribunto does kind of the same exact thing except just with a different programming language (and Scribunto uses a native interpreter rather than one written in PHP). *-- * *Tyler Romeo*

Re: [Wikitech-l] Is Foxway a right way?

2014-01-13 Thread Dmitriy Sintsov
Пн. 13 янв. 2014 12:59:18 пользователь Pavel Astakhov (pastak...@yandex.ru) написал: Hi! I would like to discuss an idea. In MediaWiki is not very convenient to docomputingusing the syntax of the wiki. We have to use several extensions like Variables, Arrays, ParserFunctions and others. If

Re: [Wikitech-l] Is Foxway a right way?

2014-01-13 Thread Pavel Astakhov
From: Dmitriy Sintsov questpc at rambler.ru Subject: Re: Is Foxway a right way? http://news.gmane.org/find-root.php?message_id=1389610306.562859.4565.53906%40mail.rambler.ru Newsgroups: gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.technical

Re: [Wikitech-l] Is Foxway a right way?

2014-01-13 Thread Dmitriy Sintsov
Пн. 13 янв. 2014 16:12:29 пользователь Pavel Astakhov (pastak...@yandex.ru) написал: From: Dmitriy Sintsov questpc at rambler.ru Subject: Re: Is Foxway a right way? http://news.gmane.org/find-root.php?message_id=1389610306.562859.4565.53906%40mail.rambler.ru Newsgroups:

Re: [Wikitech-l] Is Foxway a right way?

2014-01-13 Thread Pavel Astakhov
I implemented something similar before Scribunto was stable enough and deployed My idea is different I know. But the interpreting probably is too slow for huge-load wikis. Do not allow Foxway extension to deceive you. It is a cheap intermediary, between functions of PHP and extensions

Re: [Wikitech-l] Is Foxway a right way?

2014-01-13 Thread Dmitriy Sintsov
On 13.01.2014 18:17, Pavel Astakhov wrote: I implemented something similar before Scribunto was stable enough and deployed My idea is different I know. But the interpreting probably is too slow for huge-load wikis. Do not allow Foxway extension to deceive you. It is a cheap intermediary,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Is Foxway a right way?

2014-01-13 Thread Pavel Astakhov
13.01.2014 22:04, Dmitriy Sintsov пишет: ... exploit the wiki via calling extensions directly. ... There are no calling extensions directly. Never. I see that my idea is hard to understand. I will try to explain everything in detail with examples. Thank you for the discussion

Re: [Wikitech-l] Is Foxway a right way?

2014-01-13 Thread Daniel Friesen
On 2014-01-13 6:17 AM, Pavel Astakhov wrote: ... Lua VM also was a bit faster than both PHP and Python some year ago. I know this, but If we rewrite MediaWiki in LUA, it will not work faster. Actually, not to nitpick... ok, no, yeah I'm going to nitpick. Rewriting MediaWiki in any well accepted

Re: [Wikitech-l] Is Foxway a right way?

2014-01-13 Thread Pavel Astakhov
13.01.2014 23:06, Daniel Friesen wrote: On 2014-01-13 6:17 AM, Pavel Astakhov wrote: ... Lua VM also was a bit faster than both PHP and Python some year ago. I know this, but If we rewrite MediaWiki in LUA, it will not work faster. Actually, not to nitpick... ok, no, yeah I'm going to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Is Foxway a right way?

2014-01-13 Thread Tyler Romeo
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Daniel Friesen dan...@nadir-seen-fire.com wrote: Actually, not to nitpick... ok, no, yeah I'm going to nitpick. Rewriting MediaWiki in any well accepted programming language besides PHP would have an extremely good chance of making it faster (well perhaps