Re: [Wikitech-l] Fair use image indicated as free use?

[Fako Berkers]

Hi all,

Thanks for the feedback on my question. I see that the image got a
different template assigned to it and now the API response is fine. I'll
spread the news about that.

I have one follow up question. When an image didn't get the right
template/license assigned. Is there a tool/bot that people can use to
correct these mistakes? For instance can a bot remove images where they
aren't supposed to be? If my tool ever becomes wide spread I'd like there
to be an easy way to update images like the one we saw before the weekend.

Thanks a lot,

Fako
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Fair use image indicated as free use?

[Gergo Tisza]

On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 11:08 PM, John  wrote:

> ideally that span should be added by {{non-free media}} which is the meta
> template for identifying non-free media.


The template was updated a while ago [1]. {{non-free fair use}} does
include it so not sure why that did not work...

[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Non-free_media=712904869=388734806
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Fair use image indicated as free use?

[John]

ideally that span should be added by {{non-free media}} which is the meta
template for identifying non-free media.

On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 4:28 PM, Derk-Jan Hartman <
d.j.hartman+wmf...@gmail.com> wrote:

> It might have been on purpose that there was no licensetpl_nonfree. The
> reason being, that even though that template looks like a license it isn't
> an actual license. Instead we use fair use rationale's, and these do
> have licensetpl_nonfree. However this specific file was not using the right
> template for machine recognizable fair use rationales.
>
> Fixed in:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Odin_
> lloyd.jpg=776566993=674493870
>
> On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 8:40 PM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) <
> bjor...@wikimedia.org
> > wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 2:20 PM, Fako Berkers 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I'm running the tool algo-news and I discovered that this image:
> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Odin_lloyd.jpg
> > > Is indicated as a free image in the API:
> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?format=json=
> > > pageprops=query=1=39787564
> > >
> > > Should I report this as a bug?
> >
> >
> > That feature uses the presence of a particular hidden  in the HTML
> of
> > the page to determine non-freeness. On that particular image, the license
> > template was missing that span,[1] and it also didn't use the standard
> > non-free use rationale template[2] which also would have added the needed
> > span.
> >
> > Then null edits to the image and the page fixed things up.
> >
> >  [1]: Fixed in
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Non-
> > free_fair_use=776553380=749836414
> >  [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Non-free_use_rationale
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Fair use image indicated as free use?

[Derk-Jan Hartman]

It might have been on purpose that there was no licensetpl_nonfree. The
reason being, that even though that template looks like a license it isn't
an actual license. Instead we use fair use rationale's, and these do
have licensetpl_nonfree. However this specific file was not using the right
template for machine recognizable fair use rationales.

Fixed in:
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Odin_lloyd.jpg=776566993=674493870

On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 8:40 PM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie)  wrote:

> On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 2:20 PM, Fako Berkers 
> wrote:
>
> > I'm running the tool algo-news and I discovered that this image:
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Odin_lloyd.jpg
> > Is indicated as a free image in the API:
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?format=json=
> > pageprops=query=1=39787564
> >
> > Should I report this as a bug?
>
>
> That feature uses the presence of a particular hidden  in the HTML of
> the page to determine non-freeness. On that particular image, the license
> template was missing that span,[1] and it also didn't use the standard
> non-free use rationale template[2] which also would have added the needed
> span.
>
> Then null edits to the image and the page fixed things up.
>
>  [1]: Fixed in
> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Non-
> free_fair_use=776553380=749836414
>  [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Non-free_use_rationale
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Fair use image indicated as free use?

[Brad Jorsch (Anomie)]

On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 2:20 PM, Fako Berkers  wrote:

> I'm running the tool algo-news and I discovered that this image:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Odin_lloyd.jpg
> Is indicated as a free image in the API:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?format=json=
> pageprops=query=1=39787564
>
> Should I report this as a bug?


That feature uses the presence of a particular hidden  in the HTML of
the page to determine non-freeness. On that particular image, the license
template was missing that span,[1] and it also didn't use the standard
non-free use rationale template[2] which also would have added the needed
span.

Then null edits to the image and the page fixed things up.

 [1]: Fixed in
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Non-free_fair_use=776553380=749836414
 [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Non-free_use_rationale
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Fair use image indicated as free use?

[John]

Not sure how that metadata is being populated but on enwiki you should look
for either Template:Non-free media
 or Category:All
non-free media 

On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 2:20 PM, Fako Berkers  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm running the tool algo-news and I discovered that this image:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Odin_lloyd.jpg
> Is indicated as a free image in the API:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?format=json=
> pageprops=query=1=39787564
>
> Should I report this as a bug? Or if the "page_image_free" does not
> indicate free use, how can I determine easily whether an image is indeed
> free use instead of only fair use?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Fako
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[Wikitech-l] Fair use image indicated as free use?

[Fako Berkers]

Hi,

I'm running the tool algo-news and I discovered that this image:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Odin_lloyd.jpg
Is indicated as a free image in the API:
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?format=json=pageprops=query=1=39787564

Should I report this as a bug? Or if the "page_image_free" does not
indicate free use, how can I determine easily whether an image is indeed
free use instead of only fair use?

Thanks,

Fako
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