Re: [Wikitech-l] Making developer access easier to get

2011-11-15 Thread Sumana Harihareswara
On 10/29/2011 04:01 AM, K. Peachey wrote: On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Sumana Harihareswara suma...@wikimedia.org wrote: * However, I am now ensuring that we are more lenient with extensions developers than we are with people applying for core commit access. We still, of course, watch

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making developer access easier to get

2011-10-29 Thread K. Peachey
On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Sumana Harihareswara suma...@wikimedia.org wrote: * However, I am now ensuring that we are more lenient with extensions developers than we are with people applying for core commit access.  We still, of course, watch out for security issues in submitted code

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making developer access easier to get

2011-10-28 Thread Sumana Harihareswara
On 10/04/2011 12:02 AM, Sumana Harihareswara wrote: On 10/03/2011 07:19 PM, Benjamin Lees wrote: On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Rob Lanphier ro...@wikimedia.org wrote: Since a lot of people are applying, there are quite a few to get through. Out of curiosity, how many is a lot in this

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making developer access easier to get

2011-10-04 Thread Daniel Friesen
On 11-10-03 07:08 PM, Olivier Beaton wrote: It seems pretty straight forward to me, #1 Core access? Keep existing review process in place, could take 6 months, sorry. Patches that will never get committed for you! #2 Extension access? Has a working extension attached to submission (has some

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making developer access easier to get

2011-10-04 Thread Olivier Beaton
I'm going to nip this one in the bud right away, and given that core and extension SVN access is already separate already, I already know we're making use of it. In your SVN auth file on the server: [/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/SomeExtension] username = rw

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making developer access easier to get

2011-10-04 Thread Daniel Friesen
On 11-10-04 04:29 AM, Olivier Beaton wrote: I'm going to nip this one in the bud right away, and given that core and extension SVN access is already separate already, I already know we're making use of it. In your SVN auth file on the server: [/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/SomeExtension]

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making developer access easier to get

2011-10-04 Thread Chad
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 7:29 AM, Olivier Beaton olivier.bea...@gmail.com wrote: I'm going to nip this one in the bud right away, and given that core and extension SVN access is already separate already, I already know we're making use of it. In your SVN auth file on the server:

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making developer access easier to get

2011-10-04 Thread Olivier Beaton
Oh boy. That was a bit uncalled for there, I'll try to reply to the parts that were civil. On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Daniel Friesen li...@nadir-seen-fire.com wrote: Ok. Let's see. Firstly most extensions don't use tags so we can omit that, Why not? Extensions have versions, why shouldn't

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making developer access easier to get

2011-10-04 Thread Olivier Beaton
Is that a reply to Dan's branches/REL_*/extensions madness or a legitimate having 1-3 lines in the config per extension author we are trying out until they get full extension access is not a scalable process? Depending on how many people are requesting access, I can see how that could still be

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making developer access easier to get

2011-10-04 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi, It's great to hear that Git, once MediaWiki switches over to it, will solve some of the issues with granting access. Still, I assume no one knows exactly when the change-over will come - and I also assume that, even with Git in place, there will still be issues of access to the official

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making developer access easier to get

2011-10-04 Thread Happy Melon
On 4 October 2011 22:42, Yaron Koren ya...@wikiworks.com wrote: Hi, So let me propose a technical solution that is hopefully fully feasible: instead of separating out access by core MediaWiki vs. extensions, separate it out as: 1) core MediaWiki, 2) extensions used on public Wikimedia

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making developer access easier to get

2011-10-04 Thread Yaron Koren
Happy Melon - I should have clarified how I thought this should be implemented. I don't mean that any extensions should move locations - the fact that everything is in one big /extensions directory is quite helpful. I just mean that there should be some SVN settings so that only users with a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making developer access easier to get

2011-10-04 Thread Brion Vibber
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Yaron Koren ya...@wikiworks.com wrote: It's great to hear that Git, once MediaWiki switches over to it, will solve some of the issues with granting access. Still, I assume no one knows exactly when the change-over will come - Current schedule is to start doing

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making developer access easier to get

2011-10-04 Thread Brion Vibber
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 4:29 AM, Olivier Beaton olivier.bea...@gmail.comwrote: I'm going to nip this one in the bud right away, and given that core and extension SVN access is already separate already, I already know we're making use of it. In your SVN auth file on the server:

[Wikitech-l] Making developer access easier to get

2011-10-03 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi, I think developer accounts on the Wikimedia SVN repository should be easier to get. I say this because a consultant of ours at WikiWorks, Ike Hecht, asked for a developer account last week and was rejected. He created his first major MediaWiki extension, Ad Manager, recently, which I added to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making developer access easier to get

2011-10-03 Thread Jack Phoenix
On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 4:30 PM, Yaron Koren ya...@wikiworks.com wrote: I think developer accounts on the Wikimedia SVN repository should be easier to get. I was under the impression that getting one *was* easy...but admittedly things have changed quite a bit since 2008. When he requested

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making developer access easier to get

2011-10-03 Thread Happy Melon
On 3 October 2011 18:00, Jack Phoenix j...@countervandalism.net wrote: And out of curiosity - is there a new policy in place? I wouldn't know, as the process has changed over the years, but I have to say that I liked it when commit access requests were on the MediaWiki.org wiki

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making developer access easier to get

2011-10-03 Thread Platonides
Yaron Koren wrote: (...) Neither of those cases apply here - the Ad Manager code was well-written, and it works. If you're curious, you can see for yourself the kinds of fixes and changes that were made to the code after it was checked in - all minor stuff, the only major thing being that the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making developer access easier to get

2011-10-03 Thread Brion Vibber
On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 6:30 AM, Yaron Koren ya...@wikiworks.com wrote: I think developer accounts on the Wikimedia SVN repository should be easier to get. I say this because a consultant of ours at WikiWorks, Ike Hecht, asked for a developer account last week and was rejected. He created his

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making developer access easier to get

2011-10-03 Thread Rob Lanphier
On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 6:30 AM, Yaron Koren ya...@wikiworks.com wrote: I don't know whether this is WMF policy now, or a personal decision from Sumana, or a decision made by someone else, but in any case I don't understand it. It seems to me that there are two valid reasons for not simply

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making developer access easier to get

2011-10-03 Thread Benjamin Lees
On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Rob Lanphier ro...@wikimedia.org wrote: Since a lot of people are applying, there are quite a few to get through. Out of curiosity, how many is a lot in this context? ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making developer access easier to get

2011-10-03 Thread Olivier Beaton
It seems pretty straight forward to me, #1 Core access? Keep existing review process in place, could take 6 months, sorry. Patches that will never get committed for you! #2 Extension access? Has a working extension attached to submission (has some .php files in it, no need for a code review here,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making developer access easier to get

2011-10-03 Thread Sumana Harihareswara
Caution: long! On 10/03/2011 09:30 AM, Yaron Koren wrote: Hi, I think developer accounts on the Wikimedia SVN repository should be easier to get. I agree. I say this because a consultant of ours at WikiWorks, Ike Hecht, asked for a developer account last week and was rejected. He

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making developer access easier to get

2011-10-03 Thread Sumana Harihareswara
On 10/03/2011 01:48 PM, Happy Melon wrote: On 3 October 2011 18:00, Jack Phoenix j...@countervandalism.net wrote: ... I liked it when commit access requests were on the MediaWiki.org wiki ([[mw:Commit access requests]]) -- IMO it was a better and more transparent way to manage commit access

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making developer access easier to get

2011-10-03 Thread Sumana Harihareswara
On 10/03/2011 05:18 PM, Brion Vibber wrote: On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 6:30 AM, Yaron Koren ya...@wikiworks.com wrote: I think developer accounts on the Wikimedia SVN repository should be easier to get. I say this because a consultant of ours at WikiWorks, Ike Hecht, asked for a developer

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making developer access easier to get

2011-10-03 Thread Sumana Harihareswara
On 10/03/2011 07:19 PM, Benjamin Lees wrote: On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Rob Lanphier ro...@wikimedia.org wrote: Since a lot of people are applying, there are quite a few to get through. Out of curiosity, how many is a lot in this context? From viewing the OTRS queue archives: 25