Re: [Wikitech-l] Mostly about anglophile devs, and a small complaint about VisualEditor

2016-03-14 Thread James Forrester
On 13 March 2016 at 23:51, John Erling Blad wrote: > Thank you for the pointer to the shortcuts-page. Tried some of them, they > didn't work... I'l try to remember to write a bug tomorrow. > > Selected text, tried Control-M, bolding did not go away. Backslash is not > an easy

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mostly about anglophile devs, and a small complaint about VisualEditor

2016-03-14 Thread Gabriel Wicke
On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 3:39 PM, Derk-Jan Hartman wrote: > >> On 13 mrt. 2016, at 20:36, Amir E. Aharoni >> wrote: >> >> Ideally, this should some day be real metadata and not templates. Using >> templates for this is a hack that keeps

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mostly about anglophile devs, and a small complaint about VisualEditor

2016-03-13 Thread John Erling Blad
Thank you for the pointer to the shortcuts-page. Tried some of them, they didn't work... I'l try to remember to write a bug tomorrow. Selected text, tried Control-M, bolding did not go away. Backslash is not an easy character to reach on Norwegian keyboards, it is way off on some of them.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mostly about anglophile devs, and a small complaint about VisualEditor

2016-03-13 Thread John Erling Blad
On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 8:36 PM, Amir E. Aharoni < amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il> wrote: > 2016-03-13 20:49 GMT+02:00 John Erling Blad : > > What feels slow may turn out to be fast when the time is actually measured > (though the _feeling_ of slowness may still have to be

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mostly about anglophile devs, and a small complaint about VisualEditor

2016-03-13 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
> On 13 mrt. 2016, at 20:36, Amir E. Aharoni > wrote: > > Ideally, this should some day be real metadata and not templates. Using > templates for this is a hack that keeps living long after it should have > died. > > And it should be easy and fast to edit this

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mostly about anglophile devs, and a small complaint about VisualEditor

2016-03-13 Thread David Gerard
On 13 March 2016 at 20:43, Bartosz Dziewoński wrote: > 1. Type '{{' to open template insert dialog ... this is something I never knew existed. Thank you! > By the way, there's a list of all available keyboard shortcuts built into > VisualEditor – it's under the '?'

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mostly about anglophile devs, and a small complaint about VisualEditor

2016-03-13 Thread Bartosz Dziewoński
On 2016-03-13 19:49, John Erling Blad wrote: A lot of things are much simpler in VisualEditor, but a lot of stuff is harder to do or simply does not work. It doesn't matter if things look shiny if people use a lot more time doing the same task. One area is editing from the keyboard, how can we

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mostly about anglophile devs, and a small complaint about VisualEditor

2016-03-13 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2016-03-13 20:49 GMT+02:00 John Erling Blad : > I'm not the most active bug reporter, but when I report a bug it is usually > because something is broken in one of the non-english languages, and > usually Norwegian. A few of the devs seems to believe that the only > language

[Wikitech-l] Mostly about anglophile devs, and a small complaint about VisualEditor

2016-03-13 Thread John Erling Blad
I'm not the most active bug reporter, but when I report a bug it is usually because something is broken in one of the non-english languages, and usually Norwegian. A few of the devs seems to believe that the only language that mater is English, and that their understanding of "English" is "The