Re: [Wikitech-l] Previous mediawiki version test wiki

2017-09-24 Thread יגאל חיטרון
Hi, Moriel. Well, I see your point, but I still think it should be done. You spoke about do this, do that, and I told, in one of the paragraphs, about the case it isn't possible to reproduce the bug. So that what I suggest. Let's decide that my proposition isn't rejected yet, but just stalled.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Previous mediawiki version test wiki

2017-09-24 Thread Moriel Schottlender
I see your idea here, Igal, but I don't think it's necessary. Developers usually have pretty good tools to see where a bug came from (for example, we have a tool called "git bisect"[1] that allows us to analyze not just which release the bug was introduced in, but a specific commit to "blame" for

Re: [Wikitech-l] Previous mediawiki version test wiki

2017-09-22 Thread יגאל חיטרון
The purpose is to say to developers if it's a new problem, or isn't. I can think about six benefits: 1) It can save them the time for checking this. 2) It can be made better by task filer than by developer, because the first knows better the problem. 3) It can save the time needed to them or other

Re: [Wikitech-l] Previous mediawiki version test wiki

2017-09-22 Thread Eran Rosenthal
If you don't have access to old mediawiki version (whether it is group2, your own wiki or test3wiki suggested above), and suspects there is a regression of something that was working in the past, it is useful to indicate it in the bug description, and the maintainer of that feature can check it

Re: [Wikitech-l] Previous mediawiki version test wiki

2017-09-21 Thread Niharika Kohli
> > When filing a phab task with some new bug, > you always want to know - is it really new, or I just did not pay attention > to it before? What's the purpose of this information? If it's a bug, new or not, a ticket needs to be filed. And when I do know it's a new bug, I can open both versions

Re: [Wikitech-l] Previous mediawiki version test wiki

2017-09-21 Thread יגאל חיטרון
It can work. But another Monday. I mean, if Tue-Wed-Thu there is a deployment of version 5, a day before, Mon there is a deployment of version 4, so starting from tomorrow, group 0 will get a way to see both version, exactly from the beginning, but not until the end, for 6 days, group 1

Re: [Wikitech-l] Previous mediawiki version test wiki

2017-09-21 Thread Chad
No non-emergency deployments on Fridays, Saturdays or Sundays. Monday could work. -Chad ‪On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 7:15 PM ‫יגאל חיטרון‬‎ wrote:‬ > I glad you say so. What about Friday? > Igal > > > On Sep 22, 2017 05:07, "Chad" wrote: > > > It

Re: [Wikitech-l] Previous mediawiki version test wiki

2017-09-21 Thread יגאל חיטרון
I glad you say so. What about Friday? Igal On Sep 22, 2017 05:07, "Chad" wrote: > It wouldn't be hard to do at all, technically. I imagine it'd be something > like a test3wiki. > > Main thing to know is when do we cycle off of the old version? When the > version goes

Re: [Wikitech-l] Previous mediawiki version test wiki

2017-09-21 Thread Chad
It wouldn't be hard to do at all, technically. I imagine it'd be something like a test3wiki. Main thing to know is when do we cycle off of the old version? When the version goes out on Tuesdays? That day's already pretty loaded for software moving about... -Chad On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 1:25 PM

Re: [Wikitech-l] Previous mediawiki version test wiki

2017-09-21 Thread יגאל חיטרון
I know this, of course. Our wiki is in group 1, and we reported a lot of bugs in the first day. I'm talking about the case when you should file the bug after Thursday. Igal On Sep 22, 2017 02:14, "Bryan Davis" wrote: On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 2:52 PM, יגאל חיטרון

Re: [Wikitech-l] Previous mediawiki version test wiki

2017-09-21 Thread Bryan Davis
On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 2:52 PM, יגאל חיטרון wrote: > Very well, thank you. And I thought it will not be a problem at all. But > I'll try at least. > - > Hello, people! I believe you should think about a possibility of creation a > new test wiki, that will be a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Previous mediawiki version test wiki

2017-09-21 Thread יגאל חיטרון
Very well, thank you. And I thought it will not be a problem at all. But I'll try at least. - Hello, people! I believe you should think about a possibility of creation a new test wiki, that will be a screenshot of deployments with one week delay. So, every Thursday, at the moment

Re: [Wikitech-l] Previous mediawiki version test wiki

2017-09-21 Thread Brian Wolff
Making your case here is probably best. The release engineering team are the people you probably have to convince, although of course anyone could potentially create such a wiki, in an unofficial way. Keep in mind that keeping an older version of the software running does introduce a maintinance

Re: [Wikitech-l] Previous mediawiki version test wiki

2017-09-21 Thread יגאל חיטרון
Thank you. Sorry to hear this. Is there some place I can suggest this and explain why do I think it can be very helpful? Igal On Sep 21, 2017 22:12, "Brian Wolff" wrote: > On Thursday, September 21, 2017, יגאל חיטרון > wrote: > > Hi. Sometimes after

Re: [Wikitech-l] Previous mediawiki version test wiki

2017-09-21 Thread Brian Wolff
On Thursday, September 21, 2017, יגאל חיטרון wrote: > Hi. Sometimes after the week deployment I need to compare the new version > with the previous one, in some aspect. Is there a test wiki that always has > one version before the current? > Thank you. > Igal

[Wikitech-l] Previous mediawiki version test wiki

2017-09-21 Thread יגאל חיטרון
Hi. Sometimes after the week deployment I need to compare the new version with the previous one, in some aspect. Is there a test wiki that always has one version before the current? Thank you. Igal (User:IKhitron) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list