Re: [Wikitech-l] Where to host wikimedia related software projects

2012-02-21 Thread Petr Bena
In this case I am talking about sw related to wmf projects, so it needs hack in order to make it work on other wikis, however I support one wiki, so doesn't matter where it should be, but we should have all tools on one place, splitting wmf to meta and general to other wikis would not help much.

[Wikitech-l] Where to host wikimedia related software projects

2012-02-20 Thread Petr Bena
Hi folks, we have had some discussion with other devs of huggle and I have a question, what is the best location to host wikimedia related projects? Documentation / web pages (preferably a wiki), I guess most suitable is mww but that one should be for mediawiki only or not? I am talking about

Re: [Wikitech-l] Where to host wikimedia related software projects

2012-02-20 Thread Bináris
Pywikibot has a problem with that, and there was an open discuss. See http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/pywikipedia-l/2011-February/thread.html#6676 with the topic pywikipediabot.org http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/pywikipedia-l/2011-February/006676.html -- Bináris

Re: [Wikitech-l] Where to host wikimedia related software projects

2012-02-20 Thread Strainu
În data de 20 februarie 2012, 12:55, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com a scris: Hi folks, we have had some discussion with other devs of huggle and I have a question, what is the best location to host wikimedia related projects? Documentation / web pages (preferably a wiki), I guess most suitable

Re: [Wikitech-l] Where to host wikimedia related software projects

2012-02-20 Thread Petr Bena
Wmf ops probably don't, but thanks to labs we could probably create a new infrastructure managed by community developers, where we could host the sites / documentation and repository for code all under one wmf domain like development.wikimedia.org/wiki etc. I think we could host the source code

Re: [Wikitech-l] Where to host wikimedia related software projects

2012-02-20 Thread Sumana Harihareswara
Petr, Thanks for bringing this up. I have some opinions on this, but I -- like many WMF engineering staff -- have today as a holiday (Presidents' Day). Can this decision wait until tomorrow? best, -- Sumana Harihareswara Volunteer Development Coordinator Wikimedia Foundation On 02/20/2012

Re: [Wikitech-l] Where to host wikimedia related software projects

2012-02-20 Thread Maarten Dammers
Hi Petr, Op 20-2-2012 11:55, Petr Bena schreef: we have had some discussion with other devs of huggle and I have a question, what is the best location to host wikimedia related projects? www.mediawiki.org . Creating another wiki will just be a lot of extra work. Maarten

Re: [Wikitech-l] Where to host wikimedia related software projects

2012-02-20 Thread Gregory Varnum
I think the debate is more Meta wiki or MediaWiki.org. Petr - my understanding is that Huggle can be utilized by non-WMF wikis. As such, I'd recommend (or advocate for) MediaWiki.org to house it. Probably in the main namespace - which (again - as I understand it) houses things specific to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Where to host wikimedia related software projects

2012-02-20 Thread Nickanc Wikipedia
Remember that for bots we have also http://botwiki.sno.cc 2012/2/20 Gregory Varnum gregory.var...@gmail.com: I think the debate is more Meta wiki or MediaWiki.org. Petr - my understanding is that Huggle can be utilized by non-WMF wikis.  As such, I'd recommend (or advocate for) MediaWiki.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Where to host wikimedia related software projects

2012-02-20 Thread Max Semenik
On 21.02.2012, 0:35 Gregory wrote: I think the debate is more Meta wiki or MediaWiki.org. Petr - my understanding is that Huggle can be utilized by non-WMF wikis. As such, I'd recommend (or advocate for) MediaWiki.org to house it. Probably in the main namespace - which (again - as I

Re: [Wikitech-l] Where to host wikimedia related software projects

2012-02-20 Thread Gregory Varnum
I like the idea of a namespace for Tool: (or similar). While we're adding namespaces - what about Book: (s?): for the growing number of planned additions to the new MediaWiki Virtual Library that Wikinaut and others are working on? Already been decide housing them on MW.org is most

Re: [Wikitech-l] Where to host wikimedia related software projects

2012-02-20 Thread Chad
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Gregory Varnum gregory.var...@gmail.com wrote: I like the idea of a namespace for Tool:  (or similar). While we're adding namespaces - what about Book: (s?):  for the growing number of planned additions to the new MediaWiki Virtual Library that Wikinaut and

Re: [Wikitech-l] Where to host wikimedia related software projects

2012-02-20 Thread K. Peachey
MediaWiki Wiki if they work on any mediawiki install by default(ish). If they needs hacks to work, ideally elsewhere ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Where to host wikimedia related software projects

2012-02-20 Thread Gregory Varnum
Hacks to MW core or to their software? If just their software (which I think is the case) - doesn't seem any different from extensions which need some additional configuring. Although - either way - housing it elsewhere only seems to add to the complexity for SysAdmins. Where else within WMF

Re: [Wikitech-l] Where to host wikimedia related software projects

2012-02-20 Thread K. Peachey
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Gregory Varnum gregory.var...@gmail.com wrote: Hacks to MW core or to their software? Either If just their software (which I think is the case) - doesn't seem any different from extensions which need some additional configuring. Config Settings != Hacking to