Re: [Wikitech-l] bluejeans

2016-03-02 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Erik Bernhardson wrote: > On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 9:00 PM, John Mark Vandenberg > wrote: >> If BNJ isnt actually open source, here is an open source solution that >> we could use and help fund as required (e.g. buying

Re: [Wikitech-l] bluejeans

2016-03-01 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 2:23 PM, Stas Malyshev wrote: > Hi! > >> If BNJ isnt actually open source, here is an open source solution that >> we could use and help fund as required (e.g. buying their commercial >> offerings so that WMF Engineering/Ops doesnt need to support

Re: [Wikitech-l] bluejeans

2016-03-01 Thread Stas Malyshev
Hi! > If BNJ isnt actually open source, here is an open source solution that > we could use and help fund as required (e.g. buying their commercial > offerings so that WMF Engineering/Ops doesnt need to support it) > > http://bigbluebutton.org/ I've checked their demo and it uses Flash. Which

Re: [Wikitech-l] bluejeans

2016-03-01 Thread Erik Bernhardson
On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 9:00 PM, John Mark Vandenberg wrote: > On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 4:21 AM, Brion Vibber > wrote: > > BlueJeans is "open source" though I can't offhand find their source code > by > > googling for "bluejeans source". ;) > > I've dug

Re: [Wikitech-l] bluejeans

2016-03-01 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 4:21 AM, Brion Vibber wrote: > BlueJeans is "open source" though I can't offhand find their source code by > googling for "bluejeans source". ;) I've dug around a bit, and also cant find anything to suggest that they are open sourcing any parts of

Re: [Wikitech-l] bluejeans

2016-03-01 Thread Brion Vibber
Yep, all Linux-compatible large-group video conferencing options known are known to be bad in different ways. -- brion On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Strainu wrote: > 2016-03-01 23:55 GMT+02:00 Brad Jorsch (Anomie) : > > On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 4:21

Re: [Wikitech-l] bluejeans

2016-03-01 Thread Strainu
2016-03-01 23:55 GMT+02:00 Brad Jorsch (Anomie) : > On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 4:21 PM, Brion Vibber wrote: > >> When you join you're prompted to either use your computer or use a phone >> connection; if you choose computer, you then are given the chance

Re: [Wikitech-l] bluejeans

2016-03-01 Thread Jeremy Baron
On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 4:33 PM, Brion Vibber wrote: > On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Jeremy Baron wrote: >> On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 4:24 PM, Brion Vibber >> wrote: >> > Jeremy, uncheck the microphone and camera buttons after

Re: [Wikitech-l] bluejeans

2016-03-01 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 4:21 PM, Brion Vibber wrote: > When you join you're prompted to either use your computer or use a phone > connection; if you choose computer, you then are given the chance to enable > or disable the camera and mic before the connection actually

Re: [Wikitech-l] bluejeans

2016-03-01 Thread Brion Vibber
On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Jeremy Baron wrote: > On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 4:24 PM, Brion Vibber > wrote: > > Jeremy, uncheck the microphone and camera buttons after selecting > > 'computer' and before selecting 'join'. > > right, I saw those. > >

Re: [Wikitech-l] bluejeans

2016-03-01 Thread Jeremy Baron
On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 4:24 PM, Brion Vibber wrote: > Jeremy, uncheck the microphone and camera buttons after selecting > 'computer' and before selecting 'join'. right, I saw those. the problem is that if you have Chrome set to disallow websites from using your Mic/Camera

Re: [Wikitech-l] bluejeans

2016-03-01 Thread Brion Vibber
Jeremy, uncheck the microphone and camera buttons after selecting 'computer' and before selecting 'join'. -- brion On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 1:21 PM, Jeremy Baron wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 4:11 PM, Ryan Lane wrote: > > The right question

Re: [Wikitech-l] bluejeans

2016-03-01 Thread Jeremy Baron
Hi, On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 4:11 PM, Ryan Lane wrote: > The right question here is: is it more important for Wikimedia foundation > to use only open source than it is to focus on work that directly benefits > the movement? There's no reasonable open source to do this function.

Re: [Wikitech-l] bluejeans

2016-03-01 Thread Brion Vibber
BlueJeans is "open source" though I can't offhand find their source code by googling for "bluejeans source". ;) It's being used mostly for larger meetings because a) it has a larger limit for number of participants than Google Hangout and b) it seems to be more open than Google Hangout. When you

Re: [Wikitech-l] bluejeans

2016-03-01 Thread Ryan Lane
The right question here is: is it more important for Wikimedia foundation to use only open source than it is to focus on work that directly benefits the movement? There's no reasonable open source to do this function. The ones that exist are terrible, are less efficient, and have to have hardware

[Wikitech-l] bluejeans

2016-03-01 Thread Jeremy Baron
Hi, On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 3:36 PM, David Strine wrote: > We will be holding this brownbag in 25 minutes. The Bluejeans link has > changed: > > https://bluejeans.com/396234560 I'm not familiar with bluejeans and maybe have missed a transition because I wasn't paying