Re: [Wikitech-l] [EE] Bug 35306: Global (to a wiki farm or family) message delivery (thoughts)

2013-10-04 Thread Erik Moeller
On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Brion Vibber bvib...@wikimedia.org wrote: Can someone summarize this thread? As far as I can tell someone has invented a requirement that all features be blessed by the WMF Features team, and I'm pretty sure that can't be right. Can it? Of course not. I think

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bug 35306: Global (to a wiki farm or family) message delivery (thoughts)

2013-10-04 Thread Erik Moeller
On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Terry Chay tc...@wikimedia.org wrote: We still eventually want to reach the point where the criteria is not the amalgam of rules above but a simpler one based on intent, expertise-sharing and consensus-building: If any engineering department or community

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Multimedia] Welcome Gergő Tisza!

2013-10-15 Thread Erik Moeller
Welcome on board, Gergő -- really looking forward to making images, video and other media in our projects .. sparkle. ;-) -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

[Wikitech-l] Optimizing the deployment train schedule

2013-10-18 Thread Erik Moeller
Hi folks, after speaking to a few folks, I'd like to check in on the WMF deployment train schedule overall, and see if there are ways to optimize it. (Note: In the below I refer to test wikis vs. production wikis, generously including mediawiki.org as a test wiki. I realize that our test wikis,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Should MediaWiki CSS prefer non-free fonts?

2013-10-28 Thread Erik Moeller
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 7:12 AM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) bjor...@wikimedia.org wrote: Where I come from, beta does mean this is the direction we're intending to go in, subject to testing and feedback before it's made an official release. That's right. There are two questions here: - Do these

Re: [Wikitech-l] Visual Editor is trashing every article on French Wiki

2013-11-04 Thread Erik Moeller
This was due to a broken deployment of Parsoid, the new MediaWiki parser used by VisualEditor. A new library dependency defaulted to iso8859-1 instead of utf-8, which caused character munging to occur. Gabriel is working on a postmortem and we'll share this shortly with recommendations on how to

[Wikitech-l] Architectural leadership in Wikimedia's technical community

2013-11-05 Thread Erik Moeller
tl;dr: I’d appreciate thoughts from the Wikimedia technical community at large whether the designation of individual technical contributors as architects should be meaningful, and if so, how to expand it beyond the original triumvirate (Brion, Tim Mark), e.g. by transitioning to a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Architectural leadership in Wikimedia's technical community

2013-11-05 Thread Erik Moeller
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 6:21 PM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: I think I can respond to pretty much the whole idea here. I think titles are pretty much a WMF-thing and shouldn't have any bearing on MediaWiki :\ Just to be clear on how they currently do, in the relatively recently

Re: [Wikitech-l] Architectural leadership in Wikimedia's technical community

2013-11-06 Thread Erik Moeller
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 7:13 AM, Brion Vibber bvib...@wikimedia.org wrote: * It makes sense to have a handful of folks as a core review planning group. * However, I would consider avoiding using the term Architect for its members as it's easily conflated with existing WMF job titles. I think

Re: [Wikitech-l] Architectural leadership in Wikimedia's technical community

2013-11-07 Thread Erik Moeller
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 1:15 AM, Faidon Liambotis fai...@wikimedia.org wrote: Faidon, great questions. The architect title, besides the job description that you described, is also a seniority level within the WMF's engineering department. Other organizations do e.g. sr./staff/sr. staff

Re: [Wikitech-l] Architectural leadership in Wikimedia's technical community

2013-11-08 Thread Erik Moeller
On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 9:00 AM, Bryan Davis bd...@wikimedia.org wrote: I think that picking the title Senior Software Engineer II may be underselling the value of this highest tier to the outside world. In my recent job search I saw a bit of the tech ladder side of the org chart for several

[Wikitech-l] Re-implementing PDF support

2013-11-12 Thread Erik Moeller
Hi folks, for a long time we've relied on the mwlib libraries by PediaPress to generate PDFs on Wikimedia sites. These have served us well (we generate 200K PDFs/day), but they architecturally pre-date a lot of important developments in MediaWiki, and actually re-implement the MediaWiki parser

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia Issue

2013-11-14 Thread Erik Moeller
We were dealing with cascading site issues due to excessive database queries, and are still investigating the root cause, but site should be recovered by now. -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation ___

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Ops] Status update on new Collections PDF Renderer

2013-11-26 Thread Erik Moeller
Thanks, Matt, for the detailed update, as well as for your leadership throughout the project, and thanks to everyone who's helped with the effort so far. :-) As Matt outlined, we're going to keep moving on critical path issues til January and will do a second sprint then to get things ready for

[Wikitech-l] Tor exemption process (was: Re: Jake requests enabling access and edit access to Wikipedia via TOR)

2014-01-17 Thread Erik Moeller
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 9:10 AM, Chris Steipp cste...@wikimedia.org wrote: To satisfy Applebaum's request, there needs to be a mechanism whereby someone can edit even if *all of their communications with Wikipedia, including the initial contact* are coming over Tor or equivalent. Blinded,

[Wikitech-l] Tampa datacenter issues

2014-01-17 Thread Erik Moeller
Hi all, We had a fibre cut of our connection to our Tampa DC this morning. ETA of a fix is still pending, but the cuts have been located and crews are being dispatched. Meanwhile public traffic is being rerouted via the public Internet, so most services should be reachable. Tampa is our secondary

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tor exemption process (was: Re: Jake requests enabling access and edit access to Wikipedia via TOR)

2014-01-17 Thread Erik Moeller
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 11:08 AM, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote: The problem isn't straight up vandalism (IPBE is no help there -- the account'd get swiftly blocked) but socking. POV warriors know how to misuse proxies and anonymity to multiply their consensus, and having IPBE and

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tor exemption process (was: Re: Jake requests enabling access and edit access to Wikipedia via TOR)

2014-01-17 Thread Erik Moeller
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: End of the day, though, absent blocking problematic IP addresses and ranges (which really can't be done unless the person blocking actually knows the IP address or range), the socks and spammers just keep coming. This problem

Re: [Wikitech-l] Welcome to Ken Snider, Wikimedia Operations

2014-01-28 Thread Erik Moeller
Hi all, I'm sorry to update you that Ken will be leaving WMF. He's agreed to provide transitional support through February and March, and Mark Bergsma will be Acting Director of TechOps starting today, sharing some of the work with Faidon. Thanks to both of them for stepping up. We'll be

Re: [Wikitech-l] MeetBot now at your disposal in #wikimedia-office

2014-02-09 Thread Erik Moeller
Tim, this is great - thanks so much for getting it spun up, should be very helpful for office hours and such. Erik -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Design] Should MediaWiki CSS prefer non-free fonts?

2014-02-17 Thread Erik Moeller
On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Rob Lanphier ro...@wikimedia.org wrote: tl;dr: His stack still lists HelveticaNeue as the first font, but proposes Arimo as a web font which may well look better on MS Windows. Arimo ships with ChromeOS. So, what would be the downside of listing a font like

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Design] Should MediaWiki CSS prefer non-free fonts?

2014-02-17 Thread Erik Moeller
On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 7:19 PM, Steven Walling swall...@wikimedia.org wrote: We basically tried the equivalent of this (placing relatively free fonts unknown on most platforms first) which Kaldari talked about previously. Ultimately that kind of declaration is useless for the vast majority of

Re: [Wikitech-l] .wiki gTLD

2014-02-20 Thread Erik Moeller
We've been in discussions with Top Level Design, both to look into potentially appropriate uses (e.g. URL shorteners) and to prevent squatting of WMF trademarks. James points out that now there's .foundation there's some additional potential for mischief :P. Damn TLDs sprouting like mushrooms ..

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: Language Engineering team changes

2014-02-21 Thread Erik Moeller
FYI. -- Forwarded message -- From: Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org Date: Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 2:35 PM Subject: Language Engineering team changes To: All Wikimedia Foundation Staff Hi folks. After some internal conversations, we've implemented the following changes

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: Update on WMF Director of TechOps

2014-02-21 Thread Erik Moeller
FYI. -- Forwarded message -- From: Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org Date: Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 2:40 PM Subject: Update on WMF Director of TechOps To: All Wikimedia Foundation Staff Hi folks, in consultation with Faidon and Mark, we've decided not to immediately post

Re: [Wikitech-l] Implementation JSON based localisation format for MediaWiki nearly completed

2014-04-01 Thread Erik Moeller
On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 9:22 PM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: This is epic. Thanks a bunch Siebrand! Agreed - really exciting to see this come to fruition! :) Kudos to Siebrand everyone involved. I'm sure there will be bumps along the road but it's clearly a bit architectural step

Re: [Wikitech-l] Free fonts and Windows users

2014-04-08 Thread Erik Moeller
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Martijn Hoekstra martijnhoeks...@gmail.com wrote: So, the font stack changes with regards to the status quo now change nothing for Windows users, changes Helvetica - Helvetica neue for Mac users and changes Arial, DejaVu Sans or Arimo for possibly something

Re: [Wikitech-l] Free fonts and Windows users

2014-04-08 Thread Erik Moeller
Just a note that Brandon just commented on the patchset: We discussed this patch today during our weekly design team meeting and how to move forward. At this point in time we are leaning towards +2'ing this but we want to have a bit of discussion internally before doing so. We'll have something

Re: [Wikitech-l] Free fonts and Windows users

2014-04-10 Thread Erik Moeller
On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 7:39 AM, Derk-Jan Hartman d.j.hartman+wmf...@gmail.com wrote: So for me, the question is not how can we apply pretty serif fonts to headers, the question is what can we do short term and long term to make that happen. It would be good if we could focus the conversation

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposed body font stack for Latin

2014-04-11 Thread Erik Moeller
3 Thank you Erwin for always moving things forward. Much appreciated. :) Erik -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Another Wikipedia design concept

2014-04-15 Thread Erik Moeller
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: In the comment thread at the bottom someone gave him a heads up about the fonts controversy, hopefully he doesn't get totally discouraged from MediaWiki design studies after reading it ;) I actually think it's interesting that he

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tech Talk: Unit testing for MediaWiki projects

2014-04-28 Thread Erik Moeller
As a reminder, this is happening tomorrow at 12 PM PDT / 19:00 UTC tomorrow (Tuesday): https://plus.google.com/events/cae6ng1m9o4mhdbpo10u5v05bvg We're going to talk about various strategies for automated testing and improvements to our continuous integration infrastructure. Antoine 'hashar'

Re: [Wikitech-l] Output from Zurich Hackathon - yet another maps extension!

2014-05-15 Thread Erik Moeller
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 8:06 AM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: Visual: ? The mild conflict VisualEditor: conflict aside, that seems reasonable. View: might also work if it's not used for something else. Either way, it's going to be a bit tricky to translate. It might be good to design

Re: [Wikitech-l] 404 errors

2014-05-29 Thread Erik Moeller
It's being investigated, see #wikimedia-operations on irc.freenode.net. Erik On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 1:34 PM, ENWP Pine deyntest...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm getting some 404 errors consistently when trying to load some English Wikipedia articles. Other pages load ok. Did something break?

Re: [Wikitech-l] LiquidThreads - how do we kill it?

2014-06-07 Thread Erik Moeller
Dear Anne, Thank you for the thoughtful critique. There were four problems with talk/discussion pages that users across multiple communities over multiple years have identified: - Automatic signatures for posts/edits - More efficient method for indenting that is not dependent on

[Wikitech-l] First _draft_ goals for WMF engineering/product

2014-06-09 Thread Erik Moeller
Hi all, We've got the first DRAFT (sorry for shouting, but can't hurt to emphasize :)) of the annual goals for the engineering/product department up on mediawiki.org. We're now mid-point in the process, and will finalize through June.

Re: [Wikitech-l] LiquidThreads - how do we kill it?

2014-06-09 Thread Erik Moeller
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 12:12 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: This. Nobody, but nobody, asked the WMF to create this sort of system, and it is a rather quixotic goal given that each project has its own set of workflows. Hey Anne, We're of course pretty familiar with many of the highly

Re: [Wikitech-l] LiquidThreads - how do we kill it?

2014-06-10 Thread Erik Moeller
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 11:14 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: FWIW, for me as a power user who watches many discussions simultaneously on multiple wikis, a unified watchlist and more refined tools for watchlist management are among the features at the top of my development wish list.

Re: [Wikitech-l] LiquidThreads - how do we kill it?

2014-06-10 Thread Erik Moeller
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 1:09 AM, Thomas Gries m...@tgries.de wrote: Watchlist and (fine-granular definable) E-Mail-Notifications are very important - for my daily work. LiquidThreads and Echo (if you opt-in to mail) offer that (using the MediaWiki UserMailer functions). Does Flow also

Re: [Wikitech-l] Announcement: Elliot Eggleston joins Wikimedia as Features Engineer

2014-06-13 Thread Erik Moeller
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 6:06 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: Voodoo? Secret account in the Caymans set up by Fundraising Tech? Wikishares? If you want in on the Wikishares, it would be a nice test case for Matt Walker's new PDF generator. :) -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product

[Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Front-End Standardization Chat

2014-06-19 Thread Erik Moeller
Hi folks, We're hosting a conversation about standardization and continued development of front-end libraries in MW core on 6/25, 5:30 PM UTC, #wikimedia-office. This is driven by a recognized need for teams at WMF to work more effectively on user-facing features and reduce duplication of

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Front-End Standardization Chat

2014-06-25 Thread Erik Moeller
As a reminder, this is in 65 minutes. Erik -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Front-End Standardization Chat

2014-06-25 Thread Erik Moeller
Raw logs here: https://tools.wmflabs.org/meetbot/wikimedia-office/2014/wikimedia-office.2014-06-25-17.30.log.html Next steps: 1) Trevor, Roan, Timo, Kaldari and others will refine the proposal at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Redo_skin_framework as a concrete step to

Re: [Wikitech-l] First _draft_ goals for WMF engineering/product

2014-06-26 Thread Erik Moeller
As an update on the goals process for WMF engineering, we've begun fleshing out out the top priorities for the first quarter. Going forward, we'll aim to call out the top priorities for each quarter as we approach it, to create more shared visibility into the most urgent and high-impact projects

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mantle - coding sharing between Flow and MobileFrontend

2014-07-03 Thread Erik Moeller
On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 9:09 AM, Jon Robson jrob...@wikimedia.org wrote: == The future == Mantle is only a short term measure. The hope is that all the code that goes here will eventually go into core. We hold the code here to exactly the same high standards that we hold core to, we are just

[Wikitech-l] Deprecating print-on-demand functionality

2014-07-10 Thread Erik Moeller
Since 2008, we've offered a small feature to download printed books from Wikipedia article. This is done in partnership with a company called PediaPress. They've sold about 15K books over that time period, not enough to break even, and the support/maintenance burden for the service is no longer

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikitech-ambassadors] Deprecating print-on-demand functionality

2014-07-11 Thread Erik Moeller
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 8:45 AM, Luca Martinelli martinellil...@gmail.com wrote: so the Book Creator will still be active, maybe under another name, maybe with another engine, but still active? Same name and functionality, just the Order a printed book feature will disappear. Erik -- Erik

Re: [Wikitech-l] Policy on browser support

2014-07-30 Thread Erik Moeller
On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 2:25 AM, Krinkle krinklem...@gmail.com wrote: Since Grade B never ended up being recognised in any way by the software, I've kept that out. And the previously undocumented Grade C represents browsers we are interested in supporting due to their traffic but only via the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Policy on browser support

2014-08-06 Thread Erik Moeller
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 5:36 PM, Derric Atzrott datzr...@alizeepathology.com wrote: I would like to make a case for moving more browsers into the grade C category. Yes please. As a project that must live the test of time I think we should be focusing our energy on building for future browsers.

[Wikitech-l] Disabling JS support in additional browsers

2014-08-06 Thread Erik Moeller
Following up on disabling JavaScript support for IE6 [1], here is some additional research on other browsers. I'd appreciate if people with experience testing/developing for/with these browsers would jump in with additional observations. I think we should wait with adding other browsers to the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bikeshedding a good name for the api.php API

2014-08-07 Thread Erik Moeller
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 10:15 PM, James Forrester jdforres...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, this is sensible. Let's certainly not call it the MediaWiki API given how many are planned. Core seems a reasonable qualifier, though, no? Seems like the content API and a lot of other proposed interfaces are by

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Migrating test.wikipedia.org to HHVM

2014-08-08 Thread Erik Moeller
This is fantastic progress, and really promising data. Huge kudos, guys :) Erik -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-10 Thread Erik Moeller
Hi folks, Admins are currently given broad leeway to customize the user experience for all users, including addition of site-wide JS, CSS, etc. These are important capabilities of the wiki that have been used for many clearly beneficial purposes. In the long run, we will want to apply a code

Re: [Wikitech-l] Disabling JS support in additional browsers

2014-08-23 Thread Erik Moeller
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: == Microsoft Internet Explorer 7.x == Last release in series: April 2009 - Browsing: Most pages work fine (some styling issues), but pages with audio files cause JavaScript errors (problem in TMH). - Editing: Throws JS

Re: [Wikitech-l] Disabling JS support in additional browsers

2014-09-10 Thread Erik Moeller
On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: The IE6 disable patch is in prod now. I've tested on a few wikis and have not noticed any issues - if anything, IE6 actually feels usable now when before it kept throwing errors or was just slowing to a crawl

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fixing wikivoyage.com

2012-11-27 Thread Erik Moeller
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 4:37 AM, Roland Unger roland.un...@soziologie.uni-halle.de wrote: we bought wikivoyage.com in September to transfer it to the WMF. Since October 7, 2012 it is hosted at Hetzner and shows to our association's servers. Hi Roland, yes, I'm aware - but it'd be good to

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: Wikimedia/mapping event in Europe early next year?

2012-11-27 Thread Erik Moeller
-- Forwarded message -- From: Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org Date: Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 6:49 PM Subject: Wikimedia/mapping event in Europe early next year? To: map...@lists.wikimedia.org Hi folks, it's been a long time coming, but we're finally gearing up for putting some

[Wikitech-l] Tech Chat: Mobile QA newbie dev tutorial tumorrow

2012-11-28 Thread Erik Moeller
Tomorrow, we have two topics on the agenda for the weekly tech chat / brown bag: * a mobile QA guest speaker: Pete Hodgson, with Khali Young from ThoughtWorks, will talk about automated testing (and cross-platform development strategies). See Pete's blog at: http://blog.thepete.net/ * Sumana is

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tech Chat: Mobile QA newbie dev tutorial tumorrow

2012-11-29 Thread Erik Moeller
We'll start in 10 minutes. Come join on #wikimedia-dev. Erik -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] wikivoyage.com

2012-11-29 Thread Erik Moeller
This should now be fixed, updates may take a while to propagate. (wikivoyage.com will redirect to .org.) Cheers, Erik -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate

Re: [Wikitech-l] Announcing my campaign for bureaucratship on wikitech wiki

2012-12-04 Thread Erik Moeller
Done. -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

[Wikitech-l] [Site issue] s3 wikis read-only until replication catches up

2012-12-11 Thread Erik Moeller
Wikimedia wikis hosted on the s3 cluster (pretty much all but the very large wikis, click on the s3 box in https://noc.wikimedia.org/dbtree/ to get a full list) are currently in read-only mode due to severe replication lag. This problem was apparently caused by a logic issue in the job queue,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Video on mobile: Firefox works, way is paved for more browser support

2012-12-11 Thread Erik Moeller
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Brion Vibber bvib...@wikimedia.org wrote: Just thought I'd check in on what it'll take to get it going. No immediate rush, but I'd really love to have videos working on smartphones and tablets, and not everybody runs Firefox. :) As a recap, this is about

Re: [Wikitech-l] Alpha version of the VisualEditor now available on the English Wikipedia

2012-12-11 Thread Erik Moeller
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 7:30 PM, James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org wrote: TL;DR: Today we are launching an alpha, opt-in version of the VisualEditor[0] to the English Wikipedia. This will let editors create and modify real articles visually, using a new system where the articles they

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Labs-l] Self-registration for labsconsole/Gerrit + Labs is no longer beta

2012-12-14 Thread Erik Moeller
Congrats! This is a huge deal. :-) Erik -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Clarification on unit tests requiring CR+2

2012-12-19 Thread Erik Moeller
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Krinkle krinklem...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, We would like to clarify the reason we changed Jenkins to no longer run unit tests on patch submission. Thanks for this update. Also, cross-referencing Antoine's post on the interim whitelist solution for

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: Announcing Patrick Reilly as Site Performance Engineer and Senior Technical Advisor

2013-01-09 Thread Erik Moeller
FYI :) -- Forwarded message -- From: Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org Date: Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 4:43 PM Subject: Announcing Patrick Reilly as Site Performance Engineer and Senior Technical Advisor To: Staff All wmf...@lists.wikimedia.org Hi folks, it's my pleasure to announce

Re: [Wikitech-l] Welcome, Munagala Ramanath (Ram)

2013-01-15 Thread Erik Moeller
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Rob Lanphier ro...@wikimedia.org wrote: started yesterday as a Senior Software Engineer in our Platform Engineering group (MediaWiki Core, specifically). Welcome on-board, Ram :-). Look forward to your efforts on search, which is in desperate need of love and

Re: [Wikitech-l] Reminder about the best way to link to bugs in commits

2013-03-01 Thread Erik Moeller
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: I actually prefer bug numbers in the header. +1, also useful for release notes. Could the footer line be auto-generated for indexing purposes? Yay for bikeshed topics ;-) -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product

Re: [Wikitech-l] Reminder about the best way to link to bugs in commits

2013-03-03 Thread Erik Moeller
On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: Personally I prefer it in the first line. Second to a good one line summary of what was done, the bug number is the next most important thing. It allows one to see the context the commit was made in. Having it in the first

Re: [Wikitech-l] QUnit testing in Jenkins

2013-03-05 Thread Erik Moeller
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 8:07 PM, Ori Livneh o...@wikimedia.org wrote: Today I sprinted to pick up QUnit testing in Jenkins and get it stabilised and deployed. This is fantastic. Thanks, Timo. Indeed - this is a great milestone. Thanks for all your work getting this out the door, Timo! :-)

Re: [Wikitech-l] Github/Gerrit mirroring

2013-03-14 Thread Erik Moeller
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 7:46 PM, Juliusz Gonera jgon...@wikimedia.org wrote: I wouldn't be that optimistic, maybe it would slightly increase. Having an account is one of the factors but I wouldn't underestimate user friendliness. The first time I tried to find the URL to clone a repo in

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wmfall] Yuri Astrakhan Adam Baso join Mobile department partner team

2013-03-18 Thread Erik Moeller
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Tomasz Finc tf...@wikimedia.org wrote: I'm pleased to announce that the mobile department has two new staff members. Yuri Astrakhan Adam Baso join as sr. software developers on the mobile partner team. Welcome on board, guys. Really looking forward to the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal: Wikitech contributors

2013-04-04 Thread Erik Moeller
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com wrote: The best way to approach a project like this is not to propose an up-front migration of an entire wiki to a new piece of software, just to prototype a few new features. I think the potential migration of content to

[Wikitech-l] Support for multiple content languages in MW core

2013-04-23 Thread Erik Moeller
Hi folks, I'd like to start a broader conversation about language support in MW core, and the potential need to re-think some pretty fundamental design decisions in MediaWiki if we want to move past the point of diminishing returns in some language-related improvements. In a nutshell, is it time

Re: [Wikitech-l] Support for multiple content languages in MW core

2013-04-25 Thread Erik Moeller
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 9:08 PM, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Brian, We already have the page lang support. What do you mean by that? AFAICT there's no existing designated place in the schema for associating a content language with a specific page. Thanks, Erik

Re: [Wikitech-l] Support for multiple content languages in MW core

2013-04-25 Thread Erik Moeller
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 10:00 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: I'm not sure I'd call what you're proposing a major architectural undertaking, though perhaps I'm defining a much narrower problem scope. Yeah. A lot depends on whether or not we want language to be a first class citizen at

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: Jared Zimmerman joins Wikimedia Foundation as Director of UX

2013-05-06 Thread Erik Moeller
FYI -- Forwarded message -- From: Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org Date: Mon, May 6, 2013 at 9:44 AM Subject: Jared Zimmerman joins Wikimedia Foundation as Director of UX To: wikimediaannounc...@lists.wikimedia.org Hi folks, It’s my great pleasure to announce that today, Jared

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal: Let's move to a one-week deploy cycle

2013-05-06 Thread Erik Moeller
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 7:20 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: The reason I ask about a distinction is that there have been a lot of changes to Wikimedia wikis lately and likely more to come, as the Wikimedia Foundation has gotten larger and has more dedicated tech resources. Overall,

Re: [Wikitech-l] showing videos and images in modal viewers within articles

2013-05-29 Thread Erik Moeller
Yes, better support for display of images through a modal viewer would be great. I'm not sure a modal parameter that has to be explicitly set for files is the best approach - I would recommend optimizing the default experience when a user clicks an image or video. It's not clear that the current

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: Engineering/Product Goals for 2013-14

2013-06-03 Thread Erik Moeller
-- Forwarded message -- From: Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org Date: Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 3:56 PM Subject: Engineering/Product Goals for 2013-14 To: WMF Engineering/Product Dear all, as those of you who’ve worked on individual goals have seen, we’re only looking for focus areas

[Wikitech-l] Welcome to Ken Snider, Wikimedia Operations

2013-06-06 Thread Erik Moeller
Hello all, I’m delighted to announce that Ken Snider is joining the Wikimedia operations team. He will start as an international contractor working remotely from Toronto, Canada on June 10, and will be visiting SF in the week of June 17. We’re currently in the process of seeking work

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wmfall] Announcement: C. Scott Ananian joins Wikimedia as Senior Features Engineer

2013-07-12 Thread Erik Moeller
Scott - I'm really glad that you've joined WMF engineering! The work on Parsoid is groundbreaking. It will open the door to collaboration at a scale not seen before. And it will require contributors of your level of experience to pull it off. Thanks for coming on board -- I look forward to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Remove 'visualeditor-enable' from $wgHiddenPrefs

2013-07-22 Thread Erik Moeller
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 9:51 AM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: Seriously, though, I understand why the VE team might want to force everybody to use VE That's a misrepresentation of the facts. We're not talking about forcing people to use VE. We're talking about whether there should be

Re: [Wikitech-l] Remove 'visualeditor-enable' from $wgHiddenPrefs

2013-07-22 Thread Erik Moeller
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 8:44 PM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote: and the results from Aaron Halfaker's study [2] As noted at the top of the page, the analysis is still in progress. Importantly, there were many confounding variables in the test, some of which are already documented.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Remove 'visualeditor-enable' from $wgHiddenPrefs

2013-07-23 Thread Erik Moeller
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 6:35 PM, James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org wrote: It would imply that Wikimedia thinks preference bloat is an appropriate way forward for expenditure of donor funds. This would be a lie. Each added preference adds to the complexity of our software - so increasing

Re: [Wikitech-l] Remove 'visualeditor-enable' from $wgHiddenPrefs

2013-07-23 Thread Erik Moeller
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 12:05 AM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote: I tried editing [[Argentina]] on my laptop just now, it took 45 seconds of CPU time and 51 seconds of wall clock time before the percentage CPU usage began to drop. It's pretty slow. Yes, that's why I said

Re: [Wikitech-l] Remove 'visualeditor-enable' from $wgHiddenPrefs

2013-07-26 Thread Erik Moeller
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 8:44 PM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote: Newcomers with the VisualEditor were ~43% less likely to save a single edit than editors with the wikitext editor (x^2=279.4, p0.001), meaning that Visual Editor presented nearly a 2:1 increase in editing difficulty.

Re: [Wikitech-l] HTTPS for logged in users on Wednesday August 21st

2013-08-20 Thread Erik Moeller
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 12:46 PM, George William Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com wrote: The change must be delayed until people geographically / nationally denied HTTPS can log in again. Tim's working on a patch that should make this possible: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/80166/ The

Re: [Wikitech-l] HTTPS for logged in users on Wednesday August 21st

2013-08-20 Thread Erik Moeller
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 9:20 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: The mandatory use of HTTPS outside of a limited number of countries where we know the editors will be blocked is not what I am talking about. No, but the point is that there's no apolitical choice here. Actively suppressing a

Re: [Wikitech-l] HTTPS enabled for all logged-in users

2013-08-28 Thread Erik Moeller
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 3:19 PM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: After many months of struggle, WMF takes one big step towards a more secure Wikipedia. Good job everybody! Agreed - fantastic to see this out the door :-). Thanks to everyone who made it happen. Erik -- Erik Möller VP

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Roadmap updates - Sept 6th, 2013

2013-09-16 Thread Erik Moeller
On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Steven Walling swall...@wikimedia.org wrote: Weekly deployment plans/notes This monthly roadmap spreadsheet/wiki page Quarterly plans, as represented in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Engineering/2013-14_Goals and other places Yearly/annual plans

[Wikitech-l] Stanton Foundation $890K Usability Grant

2008-12-03 Thread Erik Moeller
As per Michael's earlier e-mail: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Press_releases/Wikipedia_to_become_more_user-friendly_for_new_volunteer_writers We're very grateful to the Stanton Foundation for this important investment in Wikipedia's user-friendliness. We're aware of the UNICEF research as

[Wikitech-l] A small Commons research project

2009-01-07 Thread Erik Moeller
We're currently working on a grant proposal that is related to the usability for uploading and embedding media files to Wikimedia Commons. (This is an area that we will likely not be able to address in detail as part of the Stanton project, so we're trying to parcel it into a separate project.) As

[Wikitech-l] Should references/ be transparently appended when missing?

2009-01-07 Thread Erik Moeller
This has probably been raised before (is there a bug for it?), but it appears to me that it would be significantly more user-friendly to append a references/ section at the bottom of the text that is being parsed when it is missing. This would * make it easier for new users to discover

[Wikitech-l] Wikimedia IdeaTorrent?

2009-01-28 Thread Erik Moeller
If you haven't seen it yet, Ubuntu is running an interesting brainstorming software called IdeaTorrent to think collectively about common problems and solutions: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/ The software: http://www.ideatorrent.org/ I wonder - would people consider it useful to set up

Re: [Wikitech-l] Flagged revs trial on en:wp?

2009-03-02 Thread Erik Moeller
2009/3/1 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: What's the holdup in the flagged revisions trial on en:wp? In general, there's a defined process for FlaggedRevs configurations, which I laid out here when we first made this feature available:

Re: [Wikitech-l] Flagged revs trial on en:wp?

2009-03-02 Thread Erik Moeller
2009/3/2 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: - is that a yes, no, maybe, reply hazy try again later or what? It's a no. The support was below typical rough consensus support by Wikipedia standards, but bolstered by Jimmy's endorsement. Since Jimmy later committed to attempting to formulate a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Progress on the Flagged Revisions front

2009-03-30 Thread Erik Moeller
2009/3/30 Aaron Schulz jschulz_4...@msn.com: Also note that the 'patrolled revisions' aspect is particularly messy to implement. Some changes have been made but more are still needed to the extension. Could you elaborate a bit? Thanks, Erik -- Erik Möller Deputy Director, Wikimedia

Re: [Wikitech-l] Deployment policy on Wikipedia

2009-06-05 Thread Erik Moeller
2009/6/5 Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com: There aren't two different policies. When enabling a new extension, the latest version from SVN is installed (provided it has passed review), and extensions are updated together with the core MediaWiki code. Once upon a time, we had sort-of-weekly

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