Re: Getting actively involved in the Wine project

2002-11-01 Thread Francois Gouget
On Fri, 1 Nov 2002, Thomas Wickline wrote: [...] Since were talking about this *great* winehq site update. What do you people think about a small ... LUG resources page for people who are interested in doing presentations ? We might find a place to put it but I am not sure we should: the web

Re: So lets say we do it

2002-11-01 Thread Francois Gouget
On Fri, 1 Nov 2002, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote: On October 31, 2002 07:00 pm, Francois Gouget wrote: This is a good start. Here are my comments, based on the following principles: [...] 1. About 1.1. Intro 1.2. Why Wine 1.3. Wine myths debunked 1.4. Technical details 1.5.

Re: Versions mass-appeal

2002-11-01 Thread Johan Gill
On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote: On October 31, 2002 03:35 am, Johan Gill wrote: Even with perfectly working builtin dlls, one needs overrides for the native dlls that are proprietary, or the loading will fail. Or is this a bug? This doesn't sound right. Can you give some

Status of libwine MFC and msvcrt compilation

2002-11-01 Thread Uwe Bonnes
Hallo, what is the status of winelib compilation of MFC and msvcrt? Thanks -- Uwe Bonnes[EMAIL PROTECTED] Institut fuer Kernphysik Schlossgartenstrasse 9 64289 Darmstadt - Tel. 06151 162516 Fax. 06151 164321 --

Re: Wine 0.8 TODO v0.1

2002-11-01 Thread Carlos Lozano
El jue, 31 de oct de 2002, a las 23:56, Dimitrie O. Paun escribio: On October 31, 2002 06:02 pm, Alexandre Julliard wrote: Dimitrie O. Paun [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -- Users can start using Wine -- works well for a fair number of apps -- no MS DLLs required (from real Windows)

Re: Status of libwine MFC and msvcrt compilation

2002-11-01 Thread Francois Gouget
On Fri, 1 Nov 2002, Uwe Bonnes wrote: Hallo, what is the status of winelib compilation of MFC and msvcrt? I don't think compiling msvcrt with Winelib has ever been attempted. Concerning compiling the MFC it has been a long time (6 months?) since I tried. Shouldn't be must worse than before g.

Re: Wine 0.8 TODO v0.1 + help request :)

2002-11-01 Thread Carlos Lozano
Hello everybody :), Could you send me a list of the popular apps what you have been able to install+run more or less flawless (using only builtin dlls)??? o Name of the app. o Version. o URL, if it can be free downloaded. * popular apps: Applications used by a large number of people in *

Re: Wine 0.8 TODO v0.1

2002-11-01 Thread Ender
Oh, one other thing that would be nice, while I think of it... is there any reason (now we are GPL'ed) that we cannot incorperate cabextract (http://www.kyz.uklinux.net/cabextract.php3) into Wine? Currently we shell out to it as an external program, in order to run Microsoft's setup APIs ecetra.

Re: What is a leap second

2002-11-01 Thread György 'Nog' Jeney
On Wednesday 30 October 2002 09:12, György 'Nog' Jeney wrote: György, could you check which other includes can be used if winternl.h is absent? Else youll probably have to wait for somebody which has it to compile your test. This is included in the latest platform SDK but it should

RE: Wine 0.8 TODO v0.1

2002-11-01 Thread Patrik Stridvall
Oh, one other thing that would be nice, while I think of it... is there any reason (now we are GPL'ed) that we cannot incorperate cabextract (http://www.kyz.uklinux.net/cabextract.php3) into Wine? Because we are not GPL:ed. We are LGPL:ed. Application that go under programs/ might as an

Re: SIGSEGV in IDirectDrawImpl_EnumDisplayModes

2002-11-01 Thread Lionel Ulmer
Yes, to my eye it looks like a linking problem but I'm not sure how to tell. Maybe if I whittle it down to a single .c file which I can post to the list it'll make it easier to diagnose. Well, the easier would be that, yes. Basically, just create the DDraw interface (as done in

Re: IDL/header issues

2002-11-01 Thread Ove Kaaven
On 31 Oct 2002, Alexandre Julliard wrote: Ove Kaaven [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: IDL-generated files would also eventually obsolete all the current wine/obj_*.h files, but those obj_* files seem to be somewhat more logically structured than MS's own IDL files, should we craft Wine's IDL

Re: Wine 0.8 TODO v0.1

2002-11-01 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
On November 1, 2002 05:40 am, Carlos Lozano wrote: Oki doki :) Very cool. Things like FTP Commander, WinZip, etc. Even if they are not perfect (like FTP Commnader with it's ComboEx problem), but they look like can be esily fixed. We can then start going through them, and getting them to work.

Re: Wine 0.8 TODO v0.1 + help request :)

2002-11-01 Thread Dustin Navea
--- Carlos Lozano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everybody :), Could you send me a list of the popular apps what you have been able to install+run more or less flawless (using only builtin dlls)??? o Name of the app. o Version. o URL, if it can be free downloaded. * popular apps:

What does Printer: Wine Poscript Driver, Error: 709 mean

2002-11-01 Thread David . Goodenough
I installed a program called Mind Manager, and tried to run it. It installed OK, but when I came to run it the initial dialog came up and it was totally unresponsive to either keyboard or mouse. So I looked around the system for any errors and found that the title of the window in the KDE window

Re: IDL/header issues

2002-11-01 Thread Ove Kaaven
On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, Greg Turner wrote: On Thursday 31 October 2002 06:08 pm, Ove Kaaven wrote: Note that I will work on ReWind, not directly on Wine, so I probably won't be able to submit massive change all files to include this instead of that patches (that apply to Wine) with any new

Re: So lets say we do it

2002-11-01 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
On November 1, 2002 03:04 am, Francois Gouget wrote: Anyway, I'm not sure 'Status' should be top-level and if you look on GNUStep's site it is in fact level 2 (it's a submenu of 'Information'). It is definitely a 'one-click' item. I get a instant surge of sympathy for projects (there are quite

Re: Wine 0.8 TODO v0.1 + help request :)

2002-11-01 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
On November 1, 2002 07:37 am, Dustin Navea wrote: Does this include games too? I would say yes, most def. -- Dimi.

Wine FAQ - call for a volunteer

2002-11-01 Thread Jeremy White
Andi and I have talked about the FAQ a lot on and off through the years, going back to when he was in St. Paul and first set up the FAQ-o-matic. When I go visit a project the very first thing I look at (before screenshots, about, or *anything* else) is the FAQ. Therefore, I think it's extremely

Re: Wine FAQ - call for a volunteer

2002-11-01 Thread Jeremy Newman
My vision for the FAQ is a hand edited main FAQ with the current FAQ-o-matic being pushed to a secondary role. I request that the new FAQ be done in the same was as the Docs, with SGML tools. This way it can be published in several formats. -- _ _WebGeek/NetAdmin CodeWeavers -=

Tucows top-100 applications :)

2002-11-01 Thread Carlos Lozano
Hello, It is today top 100 tucows list. I think that it shouldn't be the better wine top 100 list, some entries should be removed, and some new added. (For example some cdrecord program). Regards, Carlos. -- ___ _ \ | / Infraestructuras | . |._ _ _| | ___ ___ ___

Re: Wine 0.8 TODO v0.1 + help request :)

2002-11-01 Thread Ender
Here are a few programs I've used in the last few days that are near enough to flawless with only builtins: App-wise: mIRC 6.2 - www.mirc.co.uk IDA Pro 4.2.1 Demo - ftp://ftp.po.cs.msu.su/pub/ida/demo421.zip E-Tax (Australian Electronic Tax software, needs Desktop mode :/) Game-wise: Jazz

Re: Wine 0.8 TODO v0.1

2002-11-01 Thread Greg Turner
On Friday 01 November 2002 01:42 am, Thomas Wickline wrote: The way it is now I Search around for who is working on what .. And then PESTER the info out of them ;) I don't like doing it this way. But it is the only way I have at this time. Actually, this sounds like the only universally

Re: SIGSEGV in IDirectDrawImpl_EnumDisplayModes

2002-11-01 Thread Matthew Bloch
On Friday 01 November 2002 12:19, Lionel Ulmer wrote: Yes, to my eye it looks like a linking problem but I'm not sure how to tell. Maybe if I whittle it down to a single .c file which I can post to the list it'll make it easier to diagnose. Well, the easier would be that, yes. Basically,

Re: IDL/header issues

2002-11-01 Thread Greg Turner
On Friday 01 November 2002 06:47 am, Ove Kaaven wrote: On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, Greg Turner wrote: On Thursday 31 October 2002 06:08 pm, Ove Kaaven wrote: Note that I will work on ReWind, not directly on Wine, so I probably won't be able to submit massive change all files to include this

Re: Wine 0.8 TODO v0.1 + help request :)

2002-11-01 Thread Christoph Frick
On Fri, 1 Nov 2002, Ender wrote: Game-wise: Jazz Jackrabbit 2 Fallout Neverwinter Nights Grand Prix Legends

Re: SIGSEGV in IDirectDrawImpl_EnumDisplayModes

2002-11-01 Thread Lionel Ulmer
Okay, if it'll help you although my knowledge of x86 calling conventions and post-286 instructions etc. (last x86 I wrote was in a BIOS five years ago) is pretty hopeless :-) Well, I am not very good at X86 ASM either, but well, the problem lies here : 2fe0: 8b 57 08

Re: SIGSEGV in IDirectDrawImpl_EnumDisplayModes (test program)

2002-11-01 Thread Matthew Bloch
On Friday 01 November 2002 12:19, Lionel Ulmer wrote: Yes, to my eye it looks like a linking problem but I'm not sure how to tell. Maybe if I whittle it down to a single .c file which I can post to the list it'll make it easier to diagnose. Well, the easier would be that, yes. Basically,

header layout agreements

2002-11-01 Thread Christian Neumair
As the topic suggests this thread focusses on the layout of our existing wine header code. Maybe it sounds a bit pedantic but it's essential to have unified guidelines all developers should follow: Dimitrie O. Paun [EMAIL PROTECTED] already did a great job [1]: He just added additional comments

Re: Tucows top-100 applications :)

2002-11-01 Thread Urivan Saaib
Hi to all ! This sounds familiar. ;-) I've been lost in the development world, but, i still have some quite interesting results from what i commented from WineConf. Will get back when those will be ready to publish. Cheers ! ---Reply to mail from Carlos Lozano about Tucows top-100

Re: dlls/msvcrt: msvcrt-popen-1.1

2002-11-01 Thread Joerg Mayer
On Fri, Nov 01, 2002 at 03:16:58PM +0200, Jaco Greeff wrote: +/* FIXME: Don't know what this value should be, 10 seems enough as + * the maximum number of simultaneous _popen'ed processes + */ #define POPEN_MAX_FILES 10 ... +INT POPEN_getOpenFileSlotPos(VOID) +{ +INT i = 0; +

RFC: prototype skeleton for wrpcss

2002-11-01 Thread Greg Turner
Is this even close? As before, I didn't include diffs to configure because of an autoconf version mismatch between myself and wine. diff -ur -x CVS -x 'bigdif*' ../wine.test/configure.ac ./configure.ac --- ../wine.test/configure.ac 2002-10-31 03:10:18.0 -0600 +++ ./configure.ac

Re: RFC: prototype skeleton for wrpcss

2002-11-01 Thread Jaco Greeff
Greg Turner wrote: --- /dev/null 1969-12-31 18:00:00.0 -0600 +++ ./programs/wrpcss/main.h 2002-11-01 08:45:47.0 -0600 @@ -0,0 +1,26 @@ +/* + * Copyright 2002 Greg Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] + * + * This library is free software; you can redistribute it and/or + * modify it under the

Re: dlls/msvcrt: msvcrt-popen-1.1

2002-11-01 Thread Jaco Greeff
Joerg Mayer wrote: On Fri, Nov 01, 2002 at 03:16:58PM +0200, Jaco Greeff wrote: Please output an ERR here to ask people to report that POPEN_MAX_FILES needs to be increased. Will do that, thanks. Greetings, Jaco

Re: Wine securityflaw.

2002-11-01 Thread Geoff Thorpe
Hi there, On Friday 01 Nov 2002 8:23 am, Ove Kaaven wrote: On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, Geoff Thorpe wrote: However, that still *requires* that the wineserver is actually doing all the work and the wine processes that load and link PE images are doing very little except marshalling the win32 API

Re: IDL/header issues

2002-11-01 Thread Alexandre Julliard
Ove Kaaven [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Then we wouldn't have to change all those COM-using .c file to stop including wine/obj_*.h (and I could more easily convert the files). Or would you really prefer getting rid of wine/obj_*.h? Yes, I want to get rid of them. They are a real pain to deal

Re: Name, life-cycle, directory structure, autoconf, temporary kludges for wine rpcss subtitute?

2002-11-01 Thread Alexandre Julliard
Greg Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This guy needs a name if I'm ever going to start coding it. How about: Wine Remote Procedure Call System Server aka wrpcss.exe.so? A little misleading with the ss thing, but this name will look familiar to windows users, and is more accurate than my

Re: IDL/header issues

2002-11-01 Thread Alexandre Julliard
Ove Kaaven [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I haven't decided yet. But I probably won't send to rewind-patches, since I don't usually use that list (if it's something useful to Wine, I'd just send a patch to wine-patches and have the rewind patch tracker pick it up from there. But if it's not useful

Re: Wine securityflaw.

2002-11-01 Thread Vincent Béron
Le ven 01/11/2002 à 11:27, Geoff Thorpe a écrit : Hi there, [snip] What do you mean? No PE apps can link straight to glibc. Only Unix-implemented DLLs (like the Wine ones) can link to it. The problem Ah, this had been my question. It seemed otherwise from the earlier post I had seen.

Re: dlls/msvcrt: process.c (msvcrt-popen-1)

2002-11-01 Thread Alexandre Julliard
Jaco Greeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1. Calling the popen function returns a FILE* which needs to be converted to a MSVCRT_FILE*. The apprach taken here is potentially not the best route but the only one I could think of. Is it suffiecient? No, it's wrong. You should be using the Windows API

Re: RFC: prototype skeleton for wrpcss

2002-11-01 Thread Greg Turner
On Friday 01 November 2002 09:59 am, Jaco Greeff wrote: Greg Turner wrote: GNU + * Lesser General Public License for more details. + * + * You should have received a cop Alexandre Julliard [EMAIL PROTECTED]y of the GNU Lesser General Public ^^^

Problem with DirectSoundCreate

2002-11-01 Thread steve . lustbader
My app calls DirectSoundCreate, which fails, returning DSERR_ALLOCATED. I have no idea what the problem is. Any ideas what might be wrong, or any traces, etc I could provide to give more info? -Steve

Re: Name, life-cycle, directory structure, autoconf, temporary kludges for wine rpcss subtitute?

2002-11-01 Thread Greg Turner
On Friday 01 November 2002 10:21 am, Alexandre Julliard wrote: Greg Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This guy needs a name if I'm ever going to start coding it. How about: Wine Remote Procedure Call System Server aka wrpcss.exe.so? A little misleading with the ss thing, but this name will

games

2002-11-01 Thread Mark Hannessen
Game-wise: Jazz Jackrabbit 2 Fallout Neverwinter Nights Grand Prix Legends Discworld II Wing Command 4 ( use the win95 exe instead of the dos exe ) most games i own install and run ferfectly, but will not give you out the box experience because wine lacks good copy protection code. Diablo

Re: Treeview notifications before Guy's patch problem

2002-11-01 Thread Dustin Navea
--- Dimitrie O. Paun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On November 1, 2002 02:00 am, you wrote: after banging my head on my keyboard for a few minutes because i couldnt find treeview_notifyformat i went and looked at cvsweb and found out...there is no treeview_notifyformat before guy's patch so

WineSetupTk

2002-11-01 Thread Jeremy White
In responding to Dimi's call for better binary packaging, and the whole issue of getting a base line config ready, it felt clear to me that WineSetupTk is a tool that is underutilized. I have been trying to persuade Alexandre to include WineSetupTk in the main Wine distribution for some time now,

Re: dlls/msvcrt: process.c (msvcrt-popen-1)

2002-11-01 Thread Jaco Greeff
On 01 Nov 2002 08:40:20 -0800, Alexandre Julliard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : Jaco Greeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1. Calling the popen function returns a FILE* which needs to be converted to a MSVCRT_FILE*. The apprach taken here is potentially not the best route but the only one I could

Re: SIGSEGV in IDirectDrawImpl_EnumDisplayModes (test program)

2002-11-01 Thread Lionel Ulmer
Well, the problem seems to come from an incompatibility between g++ and the way Wine defines COM objects. From my experiences, the g++ vtable starts at offset 8 whereas Wine defines COM object vtables as starting at offset 0 (ie vtable[0] == first method whereas for g++ vtable[2] == first method).

Re: Wine 0.8 TODO v0.1

2002-11-01 Thread Alexandre Julliard
Dimitrie O. Paun [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't care what the app installs. I care what you do _before_ the app installs. That is, you should have no native DLLs in your fake windows. Oh, if you allow using native dlls that the app installs then things are easier; I thought you wanted to

Re: Wine 0.8 TODO v0.1

2002-11-01 Thread Alexandre Julliard
Dimitrie O. Paun [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, the init directive stuff is not really mandatory for the goals of 0.8. I just put it here since you said you're working on some linker hacks to get this working before we have proper DLL separation. Actually the linker hacks have to be on top

Re: dlls/msvcrt: process.c (msvcrt-popen-1)

2002-11-01 Thread Jaco Greeff
On 01 Nov 2002 08:40:20 -0800, Alexandre Julliard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : No, it's wrong. You should be using the Windows API (CreateProcess etc.) not the Unix popen(). Then you can build a proper MSVCRT_FILE. Sorry, I had a few beers tonight ;) Ok, I just remembered what my concerns were

Re: games

2002-11-01 Thread Dustin Navea
--- Mark Hannessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Game-wise: Jazz Jackrabbit 2 Fallout Neverwinter Nights Grand Prix Legends Discworld II Wing Command 4 ( use the win95 exe instead of the dos exe ) most games i own install and run ferfectly, but will not give you out the box

Re: dlls/msvcrt: process.c (msvcrt-popen-1)

2002-11-01 Thread Francois Gouget
On 1 Nov 2002, Jaco Greeff wrote: [...] Now wera are faced with a problem in that wcmd is not a pure Windows application and it doesn't reside in your Windows filesystem, rather it is in your *nix path. Try c:\Windows\System\wcmd.exe and I think you will find that it works. -- Francois

Re: Wine securityflaw.

2002-11-01 Thread Geoff Thorpe
On Friday 01 Nov 2002 11:51 am, Vincent Béron wrote: Le ven 01/11/2002 à 11:27, Geoff Thorpe a écrit : Hi there, [snip] What do you mean? No PE apps can link straight to glibc. Only Unix-implemented DLLs (like the Wine ones) can link to it. The problem Ah, this had been my

Re: dlls/msvcrt: process.c (msvcrt-popen-1)

2002-11-01 Thread Jaco Greeff
On Fri, 1 Nov 2002 11:21:26 -0800 (PST), Francois Gouget [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : Try c:\Windows\System\wcmd.exe and I think you will find that it works. *lol* Like I've said, expect me to be slow tonight :)

Re: games

2002-11-01 Thread Francois Gouget
On Fri, 1 Nov 2002, Dustin Navea wrote: [...] Just a thought, why not create a bug in bugzilla where people can post which apps/games/utils work nearly (if not) perfect instead of having ten million emails. 1 bug for apps, 1 for games, and 1 for utils. Because the Applications Database is the

Re: dlls/msvcrt: process.c (msvcrt-popen-1)

2002-11-01 Thread Uwe Bonnes
Francois == Francois Gouget [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Francois On 1 Nov 2002, Jaco Greeff wrote: [...] Now wera are faced with a problem in that wcmd is not a pure Windows application and it doesn't reside in your Windows filesystem, rather it is in your *nix path.

Re: Wine FAQ - call for a volunteer

2002-11-01 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
On November 1, 2002 08:15 am, Jeremy White wrote: My vision for the FAQ is a hand edited main FAQ with the current FAQ-o-matic being pushed to a secondary role. Please get rid of the FAQ-O-matic. The interface is atrocious. A hand written one would do just fine, is not like we add 100

Re: Name, life-cycle, directory structure, autoconf, temporarykludges for wine rpcss subtitute?

2002-11-01 Thread Ove Kaaven
On Fri, 1 Nov 2002, Greg Turner wrote: On Friday 01 November 2002 10:21 am, Alexandre Julliard wrote: Greg Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This guy needs a name if I'm ever going to start coding it. How about: Wine Remote Procedure Call System Server aka wrpcss.exe.so? A little

Re: WineSetupTk

2002-11-01 Thread Greg Turner
On Friday 01 November 2002 11:35 am, Jeremy White wrote: In responding to Dimi's call for better binary packaging, and the whole issue of getting a base line config ready, it felt clear to me that WineSetupTk is a tool that is underutilized. probably. any tool that can read in a config file,

Re: dlls/msvcrt: process.c (msvcrt-popen-1)

2002-11-01 Thread Francois Gouget
On Fri, 1 Nov 2002, Uwe Bonnes wrote: [...] Giving a fully qualified patch is probably bad advice here. Try wcmd.exe only and have cmd.exe.so in wine's program directory. Actually, using COMSPEC or something like that might be even better. The exact behavior has to be checked on Windows though.

Re: dlls/msvcrt: process.c (msvcrt-popen-1)

2002-11-01 Thread Jaco Greeff
On Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:50:07 +0100, Uwe Bonnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : Giving a fully qualified patch is probably bad advice here. Try wcmd.exe only and have cmd.exe.so in wine's program directory. Wine sets on startup WINEDLLPATH to $topdir/dlls:$topdir/programs and wineapploader there

Re: games

2002-11-01 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
On November 1, 2002 01:07 pm, Mark Hannessen wrote: most games i own install and run ferfectly, but will not give you out the box experience because wine lacks good copy protection code. Diablo II is a good example Can't we be a little bit more flexible and add these games to the list as

Re: RFC: prototype skeleton for wrpcss

2002-11-01 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
On November 1, 2002 11:57 am, Greg Turner wrote: argh! cut-and-paste is the culprit. this is (another reason) why I hate inlining patches... just too freakin' sloppy... Dude, you don't *need* to copy paste to inline patches!!! Just use the Insert File... menu present in most (all?) mail

Re: Wine 0.8 TODO v0.1

2002-11-01 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
On November 1, 2002 01:38 pm, Alexandre Julliard wrote: Oh, if you allow using native dlls that the app installs then things are easier; I thought you wanted to make things work with builtins only. But then you cannot ignore the dll overrides problem, you need to tweak the overrides just right

Re: Wine 0.8 TODO v0.1

2002-11-01 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
On November 1, 2002 01:39 pm, Alexandre Julliard wrote: Actually the linker hacks have to be on top of the dll separation. But it could be possible to do them for already separated dlls so that we can get rid of init everywhere except in kernel/ntdll. I'll try that. Well, maybe the dll

Re: dlls/msvcrt: process.c (msvcrt-popen-1)

2002-11-01 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
On November 1, 2002 02:50 pm, Uwe Bonnes wrote: Probably Alexandre knows more. Well, yeah, he always does! :) -- Dimi.

Re: Wine FAQ - call for a volunteer

2002-11-01 Thread Andreas Mohr
On Fri, Nov 01, 2002 at 03:06:55PM -0500, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote: On November 1, 2002 08:15 am, Jeremy White wrote: My vision for the FAQ is a hand edited main FAQ with the current FAQ-o-matic being pushed to a secondary role. Please get rid of the FAQ-O-matic. The interface is

Re: Name, life-cycle, directory structure, autoconf, temporary kludges for wine rpcss subtitute?

2002-11-01 Thread Alexandre Julliard
Ove Kaaven [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think I'd say dunno/maybe/yes. There's no terribly good reason to make it compatible, but I know of no terribly good reason not to either (except for the fact that we don't know exactly how much stuff it does - I think it does RPC/DCOM registrations,

Re: games

2002-11-01 Thread Mark Hannessen
On Friday 01 November 2002 21:29, you wrote: On November 1, 2002 01:07 pm, Mark Hannessen wrote: most games i own install and run ferfectly, but will not give you out the box experience because wine lacks good copy protection code. Diablo II is a good example Can't we be a little bit

Re: Wine FAQ - call for a volunteer

2002-11-01 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
On November 1, 2002 04:02 pm, Andreas Mohr wrote: Excuse me, what is sooo terrible about the FOM ??? Having to maintain hundreds of different web pages by hand (in order to gain the required interdependencies for some complicated issues) is a *lot* more difficult than simply

Re: Wine FAQ - call for a volunteer

2002-11-01 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
On November 1, 2002 04:02 pm, Andreas Mohr wrote: I agree that using a static web page for the FAQ part instead could probably be better - but for the troubleshooting content ?? The troubleshooting content is meant to be a step-by-step problem solver area (and it is, to some extent). Now tell

Re: Wine FAQ - call for a volunteer

2002-11-01 Thread Andreas Mohr
On Fri, Nov 01, 2002 at 04:21:54PM -0500, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote: On November 1, 2002 04:02 pm, Andreas Mohr wrote: Excuse me, what is sooo terrible about the FOM ??? Having to maintain hundreds of different web pages by hand (in order to gain the required interdependencies for some

Re: Wine FAQ - call for a volunteer

2002-11-01 Thread Jeremy White
I expect to be living close to it for the next few months and may well get some questions that don't appear on the mailing list. I also don't see myself being able to find the time to do much coding, however much I'd like to. On the other hand I'm not sure I can do things in a timely

Re: games

2002-11-01 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
On November 1, 2002 05:36 pm, Mark Hannessen wrote: copy protection, nothing more the problem is that there are license issues with copy protection that prevent us from inplenting it at all. but the game itself runs perfect. every function in Diablo II is inplented and working very very

Re: Wine FAQ - call for a volunteer

2002-11-01 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
On November 1, 2002 04:36 pm, Andreas Mohr wrote: My (hidden) point was that the FOM is two *SEPARATE* units, the FAQ and everything else. (as always, nobody seems to grasp this) Good point, but you see, I wasn't grasping it :) But that's a problem in itself, there's some confusion there, no?

Re: Wine FAQ - call for a volunteer

2002-11-01 Thread Andreas Mohr
On Fri, Nov 01, 2002 at 04:29:20PM -0500, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote: On November 1, 2002 04:02 pm, Andreas Mohr wrote: I agree that using a static web page for the FAQ part instead could probably be better - but for the troubleshooting content ?? The troubleshooting content is meant to be a

Re: Wine FAQ - call for a volunteer

2002-11-01 Thread Andreas Mohr
On Fri, Nov 01, 2002 at 04:44:53PM -0500, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote: On November 1, 2002 04:36 pm, Andreas Mohr wrote: My (hidden) point was that the FOM is two *SEPARATE* units, the FAQ and everything else. (as always, nobody seems to grasp this) Good point, but you see, I wasn't grasping

Re: Wine FAQ - call for a volunteer

2002-11-01 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
On November 1, 2002 04:49 pm, Andreas Mohr wrote: Sometimes I've got the impression that I'm partly fighting the KISS dumb-it-down-until-there-is-plain-nothing-left-to-annoy-the-helpless-user- with-its-bewildering-size-and-information-overload syndrome. Well, that's true. At least from my

Re: dlls/msvcrt: process.c (msvcrt-popen-1)

2002-11-01 Thread John K. Hohm
Quoting John K. Hohm [EMAIL PROTECTED]: No, it's wrong. You should be using the Windows API (CreateProcess etc.) not the Unix popen(). Then you can build a proper MSVCRT_FILE. Sorry, I had a few beers tonight ;) Ok, I just remembered what my concerns were about using CreateProcess

Re: games

2002-11-01 Thread Z_God
Op vrijdag 1 november 2002 21:29, schreef Dimitrie O. Paun: On November 1, 2002 01:07 pm, Mark Hannessen wrote: most games i own install and run ferfectly, but will not give you out the box experience because wine lacks good copy protection code. Diablo II is a good example Can't we be

Re: Wine 0.8 TODO v0.1

2002-11-01 Thread Alexandre Julliard
Dimitrie O. Paun [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, maybe the dll separation term is overloaded. One way to understand it is that DLLs export all their external functions through the .spec file. And yes, we are not that far away from doing that. What I was referring to is the elimination of the

Re: Wine 0.8 TODO v0.1

2002-11-01 Thread Greg Turner
On Friday 01 November 2002 02:35 pm, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote: [DllOverrides] ; some dlls you may want to change oleaut32 = builtin, native ole32= builtin, native commdlg = builtin, native comdlg32 = builtin, native shell= builtin, native shell32 = builtin,

Re: RFC: prototype skeleton for wrpcss

2002-11-01 Thread Greg Turner
On Friday 01 November 2002 02:27 pm, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote: On November 1, 2002 11:57 am, Greg Turner wrote: argh! cut-and-paste is the culprit. this is (another reason) why I hate inlining patches... just too freakin' sloppy... Dude, you don't *need* to copy paste to inline patches!!!

Re: Name, life-cycle, directory structure, autoconf, temporary kludges for wine rpcss subtitute?

2002-11-01 Thread Greg Turner
On Friday 01 November 2002 02:55 pm, Alexandre Julliard wrote: Ove Kaaven [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think I'd say dunno/maybe/yes. There's no terribly good reason to make it compatible, but I know of no terribly good reason not to either (except for the fact that we don't know exactly how

Re: So lets say we do it

2002-11-01 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
On November 1, 2002 03:04 am, Francois Gouget wrote: My thinking is that only the top-level items would be visible on the home page and then you can click on an item to expand it and go to its first page. Agreed. Actually, if we want to reduce the number of top-level menus in my proposal we

Re: Wine FAQ - call for a volunteer

2002-11-01 Thread Justin
- Original Message - From: Dimitrie O. Paun [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Jeremy White [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 5:29 PM Subject: Re: Wine FAQ - call for a volunteer On November 1, 2002 04:02 pm, Andreas Mohr wrote: I agree

Earthviewer 3D Setup

2002-11-01 Thread Kye Lewis
Hi, When I run the EarthViewer 3d setup (www.keyhole.com), wine tells me this: ERROR: You need to merge the 'winedefault.reg' file into your Wine registry by running: `regedit winedefault.reg' fixme:ole:_LocalServerThread CoMarshalInterface failed, 80070057! Can someone help me with the

Wine 0.8 TODO v0.2

2002-11-01 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
This will probably get renamed to Wine 0.9 TODO, after Alexandre's clarification, but I haven't changed the name just yet, to avoid confusion. Once again, what I mean by 0.8: -- Users can start using Wine -- works well for a fair number of apps -- no MS DLLs required (from real

MDAC

2002-11-01 Thread Gustavo Junior Alves
Hi guys, I don't know if this is the right place, but I actually trying to run some commercial applications on Wine. We have sucess in all aplications, but VB. These applications need to use MDAC, and this Microsoft package need to be licensed for commercial use. Anybody know any MDAC

Re: Wine 0.8 TODO v0.2

2002-11-01 Thread Steven Edwards
In the reactos rosapps source tree we have started on a front-end for regedit.exe that uses the regedit from wine/programs. Would you guys like this for 0.9/1.0? If so, I am sure RobD would relicense as his work is based on the LGPL work. Thanks Steven --- Dimitrie O. Paun [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Hungarian resources

2002-11-01 Thread Dmitry Timoshkov
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dlls/user/resources/user32_hu.rc Please use either CVS or release 20021031 as the source for user32 resources. Specifically there is no such an identifier MDI_IDS_MOREWINDOWS but IDS_MDI_MOREWINDOWS instead and one more string in the user32 string table has been added.

Re: Wine 0.8 TODO v0.1

2002-11-01 Thread Ender
On November 1, 2002 01:38 pm, Alexandre Julliard wrote: Oh, if you allow using native dlls that the app installs then things are easier; I thought you wanted to make things work with builtins only. But then you cannot ignore the dll overrides problem, you need to tweak the overrides just

Re: Wine 0.8 TODO v0.2

2002-11-01 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
On November 1, 2002 09:17 pm, Steven Edwards wrote: In the reactos rosapps source tree we have started on a front-end for regedit.exe that uses the regedit from wine/programs. Would you guys like this for 0.9/1.0? If so, I am sure RobD would relicense as his work is based on the LGPL work. I

Re: Wine 0.8 TODO v0.1

2002-11-01 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
On November 2, 2002 12:02 am, Ender wrote: If you expect internet explorer to work, you are GOING to have to have at least shdocvw,shlwapi set native,builtin. That way they are not required, but if IE is installed and those DLLs exist, you will need to use the native versions. I really can't

Re: games

2002-11-01 Thread Thomas Wickline
Francois Gouget wrote: On Fri, 1 Nov 2002, Dustin Navea wrote: [...] Just a thought, why not create a bug in bugzilla where people can post which apps/games/utils work nearly (if not) perfect instead of having ten million emails. 1 bug for apps, 1 for games, and 1 for utils. Because the

Re: Wine 0.8 TODO v0.1

2002-11-01 Thread Francois Gouget
On Sat, 2 Nov 2002, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote: On November 2, 2002 12:02 am, Ender wrote: If you expect internet explorer to work, you are GOING to have to have at least shdocvw,shlwapi set native,builtin. That way they are not required, but if IE is installed and those DLLs exist, you will