RE: [WISPA] More Saturday Musings- Another (older) Truck-PC type

2007-01-01 Thread Rick Smith
Pretty sure it was no ad hoc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 6:08 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] More Saturday Musings- Another (older) Truck-PC type Right, but do they have

RE: [WISPA] recommendation for Client POE integrated radio for 802.11b/g

2007-01-01 Thread Rick Smith
To even take your water hose analogy, I pay for my water - one little sip might not hurt, but everyone stopping by to take a sip, leaving the hose on, draws down my supply and sends my bill up. However you slice it or justify it in your mind, it's still morally, ethically, and legally wrong to

Re: [WISPA] recommendation for Client POE integrated radio for 802.11b/g

2007-01-01 Thread Scott Reed
Ah, but it does cost me the monthly fee. And if you use it, it is because I paid the fee, not you. There, seems to me it is theft, you are using what I paid for without paying. Pete Davis wrote: I suppose that the only real difference is that you can drive up within a few hundred feet of any

How to secure WiFi networks was RE: [WISPA] recommendation

2007-01-01 Thread Rick Smith
With all this discussion, I've not done it in a while for clients - is there a website somewhere that details all the methods for A/P and CPE security ? I remember Win XP being a royal pain in the keister when trying to get it to work with WEP and Linksys... Any good guides out there ? Perhaps

Re: [WISPA] recommendation for Client POE integrated radio for 802.11b/g

2007-01-01 Thread Pete Davis
Yes, you paid for it, then broadcast it completely unencrypted into the airspace that is in my car, that is perfectly legally parked in the street. If your apple tree drops an apple in my yard, it is free for me to eat. You paid for the water, the fertilizer, and the minerals to create the

RE: [WISPA] recommendation forClient POE integrated radio for 802.11b/g

2007-01-01 Thread Mark McElvy
Yea but in order to eat the apple from my tree, you have to come into my house and use my knife to cut it upBad analogy. Using an open AP is still illegal. I may leave my front door open but it does not make it ok for you to take stuff. You can listen to cordless phone conversations but it is

Re: [WISPA] recommendation for Client POE integrated radio for 802.11b/g

2007-01-01 Thread Travis Johnson
Not true... a case has already been filed about this exact thing... http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Florida_man_charged_with_stealing_WiFi http://stpetersburgtimes.com./2005/07/04/Southpinellas/Wi_Fi_cloaks_a_new_br.shtml It is illegal, period. Travis Microserv Pete Davis wrote: Yes, you paid for

Re: [WISPA] recommendation for Client POE integrated radio for 802.11b/g

2007-01-01 Thread George Rogato
Yeah, but there was also a state that was making open ap's legal to connect to. We hashed that one around quite awhile ago as well. Travis Johnson wrote: Not true... a case has already been filed about this exact thing... http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Florida_man_charged_with_stealing_WiFi

RE: How to secure WiFi networks was RE: [WISPA] recommendation

2007-01-01 Thread Frank
WEP is easily broken. The much stronger WPA2 (WPA2/AES) is a simple setup. For personal/home use just use a pre shared key (PSK) which is just a shared password. Unlike WEP, with WPA2 there is no fixed or hard to remember HEX code. Just pick a good shared password for home/personal use. Just

RE: [WISPA] capstan

2007-01-01 Thread Rick Harnish
That particular winch was approximately $1800 new. Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Founding Member of WISPA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Wallace Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 1:41 PM