RE: [WISPA] Switch with vlan

2007-07-18 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
If you are looking for something very in-expensive and don't mind 10Mbps ports (100Meg uplink) take a look at the Cabletron ELS27-MDU10 ... Still available from 3rd party Excess Inventory (EBAY)... On the other hand, you can do this via any of the CISCO Catalyst Series 2900 as well. Lots and

RE: [WISPA] Switch with vlan

2007-07-18 Thread Russ Kreigh
Obviously a Cisco will do the trick, used ones are dirt cheap. Then there is this guy. http://www.demarctech.com/products/reliawave-rwo/reliawave-snmp24b.html The approach I would take would be a Mikrotik PC loaded with 4-port networks cards, create a bridge group and apply a port filter on

RE: [WISPA] Switch with vlan

2007-07-18 Thread Ralph
Check Ebay for Extreme switches, as well. They are very very cheap and most of the newer ones don't have issues. Stay away from the older 2 R/U ones though. We used to lose ports daily on them. Plus, you can hear the fans outside the building. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [WISPA] history of the internet

2007-07-18 Thread Dennis Burgess
awsome: On 7/17/07, Jack Unger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, that was 6 minutes and 51 seconds of time well-spent. Thanks! Marlon K. Schafer wrote: This is too cool! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2QdEj8UjBc marlon

Re: [WISPA] Switch with vlan

2007-07-18 Thread Mike Hammett
I think my Dell switch does this, but I haven't tested for that exact functionality. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Wispa List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007

RE: [WISPA] history of the internet

2007-07-18 Thread Patrick Leary
Cool? That was brilliant! A great demonstration of a command performance; condensing such a history into 7 captivating minutes is astounding. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [WISPA] Switch with vlan

2007-07-18 Thread Steve
I'm using HP 2500 series switch for this purpose, not actually using VLAN as you can't place a port into several untagged groups at the same time. What I'm using is 'port-isolation' feature which gives the option of having 'uplink' ports able to talk to all the 'private' ports, but the private

[WISPA] PPPoE (ServPOET)

2007-07-18 Thread Luke Pack
Is ther anyone out there familiar with servpoet? I have a problem in that the server is not limiting uploads. The authentication works, the downloads are properly limited, but the uploads are free to roam. Here is a sample of the output file from the radius. The pppoe (servpoet) reads it

[WISPA] mismarked phones

2007-07-18 Thread Mike Ireton
Hi All, I have numerous examples of cordless phones that all claim to be '2.4ghz' or '5.8' ghz, but in fact are 900mhz models. This is maddening and frusterating for subs on 900mhz systems such as trango and canopy as these interfere pretty bad with their service. This misleading labeling

[WISPA] pricing

2007-07-18 Thread Travis Johnson
Hey, Anyone seen current pricing for purchase of a WISP? The last I saw it was around 12x the monthly... has that changed at all lately? I have the opportunity to purchase a neighboring WISP. Travis Microserv

[WISPA] Do you use a NAICS code and if so which one?

2007-07-18 Thread Martha Huizenga
For our business tax application in DC we had to put down a NAICS code. I picked 541519 because nothing seemed to match. I wonder if anyone else has had to look through these and found something better? 541519 seems to be the other computer related services bucket. You would think there would

RE: [WISPA] pricing

2007-07-18 Thread Mac Dearman
If you can buy a WISP for 12x his monthly acct's receivable - - that is a STEAL! A man would have to be hemorrhaging to sale at that price. Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 2:06 PM To:

Re: [WISPA] Do you use a NAICS code and if so which one?

2007-07-18 Thread Graham McIntire
What about 518111? http://www.census.gov/epcd/naics02/def/ND518111.HTM I believe that's what I filed under, but I'd have to go dig through some paperwork since it's not one of those things I keep in the front of my brain. Graham On 7/18/07, Martha Huizenga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For our

Re: [WISPA] Do you use a NAICS code and if so which one?

2007-07-18 Thread Martha Huizenga
Ah yes I searched for Internet on the NAICS site and this didn't come up. Amazing! Thanks so much! Martha Graham McIntire wrote: What about 518111? http://www.census.gov/epcd/naics02/def/ND518111.HTM I believe that's what I filed under, but I'd have to go dig through some paperwork

Re: [WISPA] pricing

2007-07-18 Thread Felix A. Lopez
Travis,Last year, I discussed this very topic with my regional WISP in Northern California and they said they heard a raw price is needed on a per subscriber basis. Here is a 2004 aricle from IP Planet which probably needs an update: The Value of a WiSP:

Re: [WISPA] pricing

2007-07-18 Thread Matt Liotta
Without knowing anything else, 12x monthly is a good deal for the buyer. -Matt Travis Johnson wrote: Hey, Anyone seen current pricing for purchase of a WISP? The last I saw it was around 12x the monthly... has that changed at all lately? I have the opportunity to purchase a neighboring

Re: [WISPA] pricing

2007-07-18 Thread George Rogato
I'm pretty sure TJ is Travis and that was just another discussion we have had countless times about how much we are worth. I say we are worth at least what it would cost for another provider to come in and get up to where we are. IN A SHORT TIME SPAN. That price can vary, but it's probably

Re: [WISPA] mismarked phones

2007-07-18 Thread George Rogato
I recall on the moto list, maybe it was chuck, determined that 2.4 and 5 gig phones also use 900 to either send or recieve. That would be why they are alll 900MHz as well. George Mike Ireton wrote: Hi All, I have numerous examples of cordless phones that all claim to be '2.4ghz' or

Re: [WISPA] pricing

2007-07-18 Thread John Scrivner
This varies wildly. I have seen everything from deals where the new WISP just takes over the debt and I have heard of 4 times yearly gross revenues. The bigger the WISP the more they are worth as a multiple of earnings in most cases. I would say that 1X yearly revenues, as you describe, would

Re: [WISPA] pricing

2007-07-18 Thread Felix A. Lopez
George/Travis/All: What's interesting is that my local WISP said the local carrier (read: now its ATT) would start becoming interested when they were at 10,000 subscribers. My local WISP walks door to door to get subscribers or by word of mouth and in direct competition with local cable and/or

Re: [WISPA] pricing

2007-07-18 Thread Felix A. Lopez
Travis: The FASB or Financial Accounting Standards Board provides FASB Standards for accountancy and valuations. For example, FASB established accoutancy valuation standards for wireless equipment manufacturers. So if serious you can officialy submit a technical inquiry here:

RE: [WISPA] pricing

2007-07-18 Thread Brad Belton
This topic has come up many times over the years. I don't recall any real consensus was ever reached based on a multiple due to the wide variation of one operation to another. How is it that one operation with 500 users is worth the same as another operation with 500 users? Would you pay the

Re: [WISPA] Do you use a NAICS code and if so which one?

2007-07-18 Thread John Scrivner
What is a NAICS code and why is it something important to have? Should I get one? What will I do with it? Thanks, Scriv Martha Huizenga wrote: Ah yes I searched for Internet on the NAICS site and this didn't come up. Amazing! Thanks so much! Martha Graham McIntire wrote: What about

Re: [WISPA] Do you use a NAICS code and if so which one?

2007-07-18 Thread Graham McIntire
You have to classify a specific area of business you operate in if you file for a Sales and Use tax in your area. I'm in an unincorporated area of my county, so I only pay Texas sales tax and don't deal with a city. Graham On 7/18/07, John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is a NAICS

Re: [WISPA] Do you use a NAICS code and if so which one?

2007-07-18 Thread Martha Huizenga
From the Naics site: http://naics.com/ The North American Industry Classification System (NAICS, pronounced Nakes) was developed as the standard for use by Federal statistical agencies in classifying business establishments for the collection, analysis, and publication of statistical data

Re: [WISPA] pricing

2007-07-18 Thread Tom DeReggi
Travis, The fair price to buy a WISP depends on whether you are buying or selling :-) Pay 6x monthly, Sell 6x annual. :-) The larger factor to consider is what can you make because you bought the ISP? And what will he make, if he doesn't sell? Is his company growing? Will it stop growing

RE: [WISPA] 4.9 use (answer for Ralph)

2007-07-18 Thread Felix A. Lopez
Ralph, To answer your question regarding what part of workforce is using the 4.9 GHz. The short answer is the city first responders workforce will be the primary user of the 4.9 GHz portion of the Mesh networking. The 2.4 GHz will be used for utility services such as metering/monitoring. The

Re: [WISPA] 4.9 use (answer for Ralph)

2007-07-18 Thread George Rogato
Sheesh 2.4 for utility metering? Felix A. Lopez wrote: Ralph, To answer your question regarding what part of workforce is using the 4.9 GHz. The short answer is the city first responders workforce will be the primary user of the 4.9 GHz portion of the Mesh networking. The 2.4 GHz will be

Re: [WISPA] pricing

2007-07-18 Thread Travis Johnson
A little more info... a generally accepted purchase price for a business is 3x the annual Net Profit. Again, this is just a starting point because something is worth whatever someone is willing to pay... but for a general business practice, that's usually the starting point. Travis Microserv

[WISPA] trango repairs

2007-07-18 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, Is there anyone doing Trango repairs for a reasonable rate? Trango wants $200 per radio. Thanks, Travis Microserv Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings

Re: [WISPA] 4.9 use (answer for Ralph)

2007-07-18 Thread Felix A. Lopez
George: Well...it is a pilot project. :) But one of the 2.4 GHz radios uses the MEA (Mesh Enabeled Architecture) and the other 2. 4Ghz radio uses the normal 802.11. The same for the 4.9 GHz. See weblink. http://mrtmag.com/mag/radio_motomesh_not_public/index.html The real issue is many