Re: [WISPA] Metered Billing (time of use billing)

2009-11-21 Thread Chuck Bartosch
It seems to me a long time ago (back in the dial up days), we restricted people from 8 AM to midnight but let them go full out and abuse the heck out of their connection if they so desired from midnight to 8 AM. We didn't *bill* differently. Or maybe we just wanted to. I know we *told*

Re: [WISPA] Metered Billing (time of use billing)

2009-11-21 Thread Chuck Bartosch
On Nov 15, 2009, at 11:47 PM, jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: Oh my that is insane kw/h pricing. Happen to know what there buy back rates are? Here I pay .07 kw/h with a buy back of .02 kw/h. New York State requires buyback at the same rate as the sell rate. So it'd be .07 kw/h both ways. The

Re: [WISPA] 5.6 GHZ?

2009-11-21 Thread 3-dB Networks
Motorola Canopy 5.4GHz radios updated with the latest firmware cannot transmit in the 5600-5650 part of the band. I don't understand what is iffy about the band... Canopy operators have been using it for two years or so now legally, and while DFS still has issues in its current implementation,

Re: [WISPA] Metered Billing (time of use billing)

2009-11-21 Thread Robert West
I switched a farmer to us from Agristar the other night. Satellite internet His number one gripe was that they metered him and once they went over a certain limit they were blocked for 24 hours as punishment. Man, that's severe! Imagine turning a customer totally off for 24 hours!!!

Re: [WISPA] Metered Billing (time of use billing)

2009-11-21 Thread os10rules
Is he completely cut off or restricted to only certain sites/email? Hughes meters during business hours and if one goes over budget then they throttle you to a crawl during the following business hours period. The meter is off during the wee hours. Greg On Nov 21, 2009, at 9:16 AM, Robert

Re: [WISPA] Freeside

2009-11-21 Thread can...@believewireless.net
Ran into the same roadblock and gave up. The problem is that the dependencies are there but have the wrong version. You'll need to roll back to the older version the new packages rely on. On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 9:34 AM, ccrum cc...@dot11net.com wrote: Well, I'm pretty competent with Linux,

Re: [WISPA] Metered Billing (time of use billing)

2009-11-21 Thread Robert West
He told me he gets Blacked out and the internet doesn't work but he may have had email access but honestly most people in this area use yahoo or gmail so even if they allowed email protocol, they wouldn't use it. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] 5.6 GHZ?

2009-11-21 Thread Travis Johnson
It's "iffy" because the FCC allowed the specific band, and now they are trying to take it back away... two years later. If I never upgrade my radios, does that mean I'm legal to run in that specific band forever? I just don't understand how they can allow it for 2 years, and then try and take

Re: [WISPA] 5.6 GHZ?

2009-11-21 Thread Jack Unger
IMO, it is "iffy" for the reason you mentioned. The FCC (at the request of the FAA and the NTIA) appears ready to deny use of the 5.6 spectrum in areas where interference with airport weather radar takes place. I doubt that any WISP would ague that their use of that spectrum is more important

[WISPA] UBNT 5.1 Firmware Finally Released Today

2009-11-21 Thread Robert West
Ubiquiti just released the 5.1 Beta firmware today. Supposed to clear up issues with the new AiMax gear. Description from the forums is as follows: * Full legacy product support * WEP and WPA-TKIP support * Added: Advanced Ethernet Settings * WEB server change * Auto ACK improvement *

Re: [WISPA] 5.6 GHZ?

2009-11-21 Thread 3-dB Networks
I imagine at some point your going to have to upgrade. I could see the requirement being that all new radios will be hard coded with the United States region code, and then they will force that you will have to have that same region code set at the AP. Once that occurs. either you accept the

[WISPA] Mushroom Truffle BBNA

2009-11-21 Thread NGL
Has anyone had any experience with the Mushroom Truffle BBNA Router? http://www.mushroomnetworks.com/product.aspx?product_id=1000 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] Netflix, Hula starting to creat issues with network.

2009-11-21 Thread Butch Evans
On Wed, 2009-11-11 at 13:52 -0800, Gary Garrett wrote: Yes, this is the answer I am looking for. Let me know when this is available / stable, It looks (so far) as though the system is performing VERY WELL. Of the ones that I have tested with, I have had very positive results. One thing

Re: [WISPA] Netflix, Hula starting to creat issues with network.

2009-11-21 Thread Butch Evans
On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 10:40 -0800, Joe Miller wrote: Make it a plug-n-play for us non Mikrotik people and I would say sold. DONE! LOL. I don't sell a script. I sell the installation of a system, which will include installation, configuration, customization (to an extent) and basic

Re: [WISPA] Netflix, Hula starting to creat issues with network.

2009-11-21 Thread Joe Miller
Butch, You think that it could run on a PC with 2 NICS without an issue? That way the CPU usage can be a lot lower. - Original Message From: Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sat, November 21, 2009 8:01:05 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA]

Re: [WISPA] Mushroom Truffle BBNA

2009-11-21 Thread jree...@18-30chat.net
Understand that what they do is have a co-lo where they have lots and lots of BW (one hopes). Then, tunnel out across the links at your end into the colo, and bond the tunnels. You then look like their IP's to the world. http://mushroomnetworks.com/product.aspx?product_id=1009 NGL wrote: Has

Re: [WISPA] About Hulu and Netflix and youtube... increased data delivery is here to stay.

2009-11-21 Thread Butch Evans
On Fri, 2009-11-13 at 07:45 -0600, Mike wrote: If it would run on say a MT 450G, and the price was right, you'd sell a bunch! I'd buy several for my network. After installing this on an RB600 moving about 4k pps I saw it move CPU from an average of about 60% up to about 80-100% (more often

Re: [WISPA] Netflix, Hula starting to creat issues with network.

2009-11-21 Thread Butch Evans
On Sat, 2009-11-21 at 18:15 -0800, Joe Miller wrote: You think that it could run on a PC with 2 NICS without an issue? That way the CPU usage can be a lot lower. Yes. My development platform is an x86 box at 1GHz with 1G RAM. My opinion is that your suggested platform is the ideal scenario.

Re: [WISPA] Metered Billing (time of use billing)

2009-11-21 Thread Ryan Spott
My father in law lives off the grid so he turns off the everything in the house when he is gone... The power is OFF. He got home one day and was throttled by Hughes. W. T. F. and there was no arguing the point with the rep. Man was he ticked. Former AF Colonel.. NEVER swears. He swore a lot that

[WISPA] BX Towers

2009-11-21 Thread Mike Hammett
Good, bad, ugly? Looking at their extra heavy duty 40'. It has an 18 sq. ft. wind load @ 70 mph. Though not as strong, it seems to be about half the price of a Super Titan S100 of equivalent height. Looking for it to hold 2 up to 3' dishes, 2x 5 GHz sectors, and 4x 900 MHz sectors (whenever

Re: [WISPA] BX Towers

2009-11-21 Thread 3-dB Networks
Is 18 sq. ft. enough wind loading? The dishes would be 14 sq. ft. or so off the bat... add in the sectors, radio, and cable... and your past 100% loaded. Better to spend the money on a lot more wind loading then you will need than to see your tower come crashing to the ground. Daniel White 3-dB