[WISPA] POE Switch

2010-08-11 Thread Paolo Di Francesco
Hi all, I saw this interesting switch which is has NON stardard POE, i.e. good for 12-24V devices: http://tyconpower.com/products/files/TP-SW8_POE_Switch_Spec_Sheet.pdf It seems a good idea instead of multiple POE (but also a single POE, is a single point of failure...) Anybody using it?

Re: [WISPA] RB1100

2010-08-11 Thread Paolo Di Francesco
what is unstable? I mean it has temperature problems, software or what? I do not have RB1100 but I was considering to install it on some sites. Now I am thinking it could not be a good idea, and maybe better to use RB493... Replace it with xomething else…. Product is not stable Gino

[WISPA] Content Filtering

2010-08-11 Thread Luis Abenza Sánchez
Hi all, We want to add content filtering service to our WISP, especially for kids control. We are thinking about CensorNet Pro. Are you selling this service? Which software/hardware are you using? Thanks, Luis

Re: [WISPA] POE Switch

2010-08-11 Thread Brad Belton
The picture of the device in the PDF sure looks more like a four port/device product than an eight port/device product. It only shows four (1-4) LED indicator lights and it appears the top four ports are labeled as Data and the corresponding bottom four ports are labeled as POE. This leads me to

Re: [WISPA] Content Filtering

2010-08-11 Thread Ralph
Luis- We have experimented with OpenDNS (free) which does an OK job of content blocking on one of the Muni Mesh systems, but not used it in production. Not even sure if you can sell it and it is pretty easily defeated. It is probably something you could offer for free, though. Ralph

Re: [WISPA] Free 19 shock mounted shipping rack.

2010-08-11 Thread Ralph
HeHe- I was waiting for that. You should see it in person :-) Sorry about the link-it probably split apart. Thanks for clearing it up. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blake Bowers Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 12:26

Re: [WISPA] Content Filtering

2010-08-11 Thread Justin Wilson
Imagestream has a solution. Not done much research on it. But they have something. -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog Wisp Consulting ­ Tower Climbing ­ Network Support From: Ralph ralphli...@bsrg.org Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Wed, 11 Aug

Re: [WISPA] POE / Ethernet extenders

2010-08-11 Thread Justin Wilson
Anyone have a solution of a POE switch that is not 19²? Preferably something smaller. -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog Wisp Consulting ­ Tower Climbing ­ Network Support From: Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon,

Re: [WISPA] Content Filtering

2010-08-11 Thread jp
Set setup a linux box with squid and dansguardian on it. Customers can use it at no cost by changing their proxy settings. Very reliable, almost no support required compared to installable software. Just another reason for some customers to keep service with us. On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at

Re: [WISPA] RB1100

2010-08-11 Thread Fred Goldstein
The RB1000 is discontinued and the 1100 is a box product. What about the RB800? It uses a pretty decent PowerPC processor (with the crypto engine), has a daughtercard to add 10/100 slots, and looks like it can be mounted outdoors. The one thing I don't like is the fan; it is a moving part

Re: [WISPA] POE Switch

2010-08-11 Thread Scott Carullo
Take your $40 RB750 and solder the PoE port wires across the ports. Then you have a managed, multi-voltage switch / router etc that can feed the other devices on all the other ports. Search for the mod on this its out there. Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102

[WISPA] Slightly OT - IP addressing question

2010-08-11 Thread Jason Hensley
I've got my own ARIN block and right now I'm peered with my upstream running BGP (single-homed). I'm looking at changing providers but the company I'm looking at does not do BGP. I'm a little in the dark on route advertisements, etc, and I don't understand how my block will be accessible if I'm

Re: [WISPA] POE Switch

2010-08-11 Thread Scott Reed
And with MT it doesn't even void the warranty. Scott Carullo wrote: Take your $40 RB750 and solder the PoE port wires across the ports. Then you have a managed, multi-voltage switch / router etc that can feed the other devices on all the other ports. Search for the mod on this its out

Re: [WISPA] Content Filtering

2010-08-11 Thread David E. Smith
2010/8/11 Luis Abenza Sánchez l...@excom.es We want to add content filtering service to our WISP, especially for kids control. We are thinking about CensorNet Pro. I'd suggest you have a nice long talk about this with your lawyer before doing anything like this. Sounds like a good way to

Re: [WISPA] Slightly OT - IP addressing question

2010-08-11 Thread Matt
I've got my own ARIN block and right now I'm peered with my upstream running BGP (single-homed).  I'm looking at changing providers but the company I'm looking at does not do BGP.  I'm a little in the dark on route advertisements, etc, and I don't understand how my block will be accessible if

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti antenna testing yet?

2010-08-11 Thread Mike Hammett
What are you seeing with the slim elevation radiation pattern? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 8/11/2010 12:19 AM, Robert West wrote: Working fine for me as well. Depending on the terrain, we use the smaller sectors as well as the larger ones.

Re: [WISPA] POE Switch

2010-08-11 Thread Mike Hammett
They also appear to have a 12 port pass through model. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 8/11/2010 3:11 AM, Paolo Di Francesco wrote: Hi all, I saw this interesting switch which is has NON stardard POE, i.e. good for 12-24V devices:

Re: [WISPA] Slightly OT - IP addressing question

2010-08-11 Thread Jason Hensley
Provider is solid - but just getting into the actual providing of Internet connectivity (to this point they have just done fiber transport). I have a feeling that by the time we actually switch they will have BGP capability (we're 6 months out right now) - just trying to figure out if I'm able to

Re: [WISPA] Slightly OT - IP addressing question

2010-08-11 Thread Nick Olsen
Yeah, its going to have to be advertised, By someone, At some point. Be it you, The upstream, or the upstream's Upstream... Then it needs to be routed to your equipment from where ever it ends up being advertised from. Don't think you need to keep ARIN in the loop on any of it. Nick Olsen

Re: [WISPA] Slightly OT - IP addressing question

2010-08-11 Thread Glenn Kelley
Jason - chances are they may be unable to peer w/ BGP depending upon who their provider is and what they have contracted for. You want someone that can push your own BGP route - and you want the ability to control your own destiny. BGP is not that difficult - give me a hollar off list - and I

Re: [WISPA] Content Filtering

2010-08-11 Thread Layne Sisk
We use Netsweeper and have been pretty please with that. -Layne ServerPlus From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org on behalf of Luis Abenza Sánchez Sent: Wed 8/11/2010 5:07 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Content Filtering Hi all, We want to add

Re: [WISPA] Slightly OT - IP addressing question

2010-08-11 Thread Matt
I know of a provider that gives fiber to office buildings in the city - limits them to say 10mbps on a port and their head end is 5 docsis cable modems from Comcast Speed is there - but their provider Comcast did not allow BGP on a cable modem. How can they bond cable modem connections

Re: [WISPA] POE Switch

2010-08-11 Thread Jerry Richardson
Just talked to Tycon Power. The image on the PDF is incorrect. The correct image is: http://www.wlanparts.com/product/TP-SW5/High-Speed-10100Mb-5-Port-POE-Switch.html I was more interested in a 4/8 port POE device with redundant power supply inputs and switches/jumpers to reverse polarity. I

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti antenna testing yet?

2010-08-11 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Do you mean the narrow vertical beam width ? If you do the calcs, you will see that it is actually good to have this... With electrical down tilt built in most of the time the antenna is getting mounted 'flush'. in our case at lower heights we are doing an up-tilt It also allows you

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti antenna testing yet?

2010-08-11 Thread Mike Hammett
Yeah, yeah, same thing. So you're not seeing coverage issues with the narrow vertical beam width of the higher gain antenna? I'd think something that narrow to be difficult to do short and long links. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 8/11/2010

Re: [WISPA] Slightly OT - IP addressing question

2010-08-11 Thread Justin Wilson
If they can¹t advertise the blocks for you I would run. Ask if they can do that and you simply have a static route to them. -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog ­ xISP News Wisp Consulting ­ Tower Climbing ­ Network Support CCNA ­ Mikrotik Advanced ­ NET+ - COMTRAIN

Re: [WISPA] POE Switch

2010-08-11 Thread Brad Belton
The Tycon Power Midspan injectors look promising, but like you said they need to add redundant power supply inputs and switches/jumpers to reverse voltage polarity in order to support more products. Sure would be nice if they added the current indicator too so you know if the radio up top is

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti antenna testing yet?

2010-08-11 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
.If you do the calculations, you may be surprised as to how much coverage you can get with the narrow beam width... (it is function of AP height as well)... The only time you run into a problem, is when you are trying to do a 1/4mile or 1/2 mile link and 10mile link off the same

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti antenna testing yet?

2010-08-11 Thread Jerry Richardson
There is a tendency among installers to assume that if they are close they can get away with less antenna. If they understand the relationship between gain and pattern they will be less likely to make this mistake. Sometimes we can be 1 mile from the antenna but since it's 3500' up we are

Re: [WISPA] Content Filtering

2010-08-11 Thread Mike Delp
Ralph, You could redirect all DNS requests to your Open DNS server in your Mikrotik Routers, defeating any defeat attempts by the clients Mike On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Ralph ralphli...@bsrg.org wrote: Luis- We have experimented with OpenDNS (free) which does an OK job of content

Re: [WISPA] Content Filtering

2010-08-11 Thread Steve Barnes
Open DNS was what I was thinking as well. You could just give a link to it on your website then it's not you problem but then again no profit either. If you set something up make sure you have an policy that states its not your job to be 100% and that the dark side of the web is always working

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti antenna testing yet?

2010-08-11 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Well Said. Faisal Snappy Internet Telecom On 8/11/2010 12:22 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote: There is a tendency among installers to assume that if they are close they can get away with less antenna. If they understand the relationship between gain and pattern they will be less likely to make

Re: [WISPA] Lightning AGAIN

2010-08-11 Thread Greg Ihnen
Are the APC's grounded and do they have the industrial strength surge protection necessary to divert a large inrush without too much voltage rise? Greg On Aug 6, 2010, at 5:19 PM, Jeremie Chism wrote: I have two giant apc's and don't see a problem there. Sent from my iPhone

Re: [WISPA] Lightning AGAIN

2010-08-11 Thread Greg Ihnen
IS PFSense or Vyatta better than MT? Greg On Aug 6, 2010, at 4:18 PM, Glenn Kelley wrote: For the router ... I can suggest a quick solution, PFSENSE - or Vyatta. Best part - both are 100% FREE Replacing a computer much of the time is much cheaper than a router... AND - these do

Re: [WISPA] POE Switch

2010-08-11 Thread Paolo Di Francesco
It does not look the same product: 1) it's IEEE 802.3af High Power 10/100Mb POE Switch, which is not the product I was talking about (non standard POE) 2) it has 5 ports and not 8 (see the description in pdf of the TP-SW8-NC) 3) the codes are different : TP-SW5 versus TP-SW8-NC 4) the product you

Re: [WISPA] POE Switch

2010-08-11 Thread Paolo Di Francesco
also the temperature range is not good for industrial environment. The switch range is -10C,70C while the midspan is 0,40C Yes double input would be appreciated Also a web/terminal (and SMNP?) to see what is happening would be maybe more interesting than the led on the device itself. About 1U,

Re: [WISPA] POE Switch

2010-08-11 Thread Dennis Burgess
We use the 12 and 8 port Mid-Spans (non-poe compliant) on our towers, work great. We have some at 400 foot in the MO heat ! lol We sell them at www.wlan1.com, think we have some in stock as well. What's nice, is that they come with a great warranty, and so far, never have had any issues with

Re: [WISPA] POE Switch

2010-08-11 Thread Josh Luthman
Define Missouri heat, for us? Wasn't aware it was that hot there. On Aug 11, 2010 10:01 PM, Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.net wrote: We use the 12 and 8 port Mid-Spans (non-poe compliant) on our towers, work great. We have some at 400 foot in the MO heat ! lol We sell them at

Re: [WISPA] POE Switch

2010-08-11 Thread Dennis Burgess
Like 98 with a heat index of 116 or something like that, course I am not there, but sounds like it sux. --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services Office:

Re: [WISPA] POE Switch

2010-08-11 Thread Philip Dorr
With a humidity of 40-80%, when you step outside and you start sweating very quickly (60+%) or just want to get back inside quickly. Of course the humidity drops once you get about 80 feet off of the ground, so it is bearable to work on a tower,but not comfortable. On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 9:19

Re: [WISPA] Lightning AGAIN

2010-08-11 Thread Greg Ihnen
I've not tried Vyatta either, but I've done PFSense and got tired of waiting for features that weren't quite working in beta. RouterOS seems much more powerful and configurable to me. Though maybe you can do as much with PFSense at the CLI. Greg On Aug 11, 2010, at 7:50 PM, Scott Lambert

[WISPA] SilverLining

2010-08-11 Thread Jerry Richardson
We rolled out SilverLining's new OPEN SOURCE captive portal system with PayPal and OpenX ad server integration on Sunday. Yesterday we had 1000 splash page displays so we are seeing some good usage. I'm sure that there are a fair number of users that are re-logging in after the 30 minutes/50MB

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] SilverLining

2010-08-11 Thread Josh Luthman
Great to hear. Thank you so much for sharing. On Aug 12, 2010 12:38 AM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: We rolled out SilverLining's new OPEN SOURCE captive portal system with PayPal and OpenX ad server integration on Sunday. Yesterday we had 1000 splash page displays so we

Re: [WISPA] POE Switch

2010-08-11 Thread Justin Wilson
Surely you are getting the heat in Troy. I was on a tower yesterday in your neck of the woods. Boy was it hot! Not sure what the heat index but by the time I got down at 11AM I was soaked. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog ­ xISP News

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] SilverLining

2010-08-11 Thread Josh Luthman
Can you point out where to start? How does it work? What libraries is it dependent on? On Aug 12, 2010 1:15 AM, Fred Moyer f...@slwifi.com wrote: You can run it on any Linux box that has Apache 2.x installed. It has been tested on Centos 5.5, so you can install most of the dependencies easily