Re: [WISPA] Wireless Digest, Vol 35, Issue 21

2010-11-15 Thread Akinlolu Ajayi-Obe
I need to move 155MB internet traffic over 90miles. Fiber will take too long and cost too much. Anybody have a solution that will work. Power is an issue where repeaters are used. Solar would be the preferred option. I also need to manage and distribute bandwidth. Any ideas? -- Akinlolu

Re: [WISPA] Wireless Digest, Vol 35, Issue 21

2010-11-15 Thread Nick Olsen
Ship hard drives? On a serious note. To move that kind of bandwidth, Your looking at licensed links running the whole way, Multiple Hops. But that will also be quite expensive. And the number of hops would depend on how high your sites are. Also, You said fiber would take to long. Was this

Re: [WISPA] 90-mile path (was Wireless Digest, Vol 35, Issue 21)

2010-11-15 Thread Fred Goldstein
At 11/15/2010 04:06 AM, Akinlolu Ajay-Obe wrote: I need to move 155MB internet traffic over 90miles. Fiber will take too long and cost too much. Anybody have a solution that will work. Power is an issue where repeaters are used. Solar would be the preferred option. I also need to manage and

[WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude

2010-11-15 Thread Mark Nash
I'd like to hear from people who have switched from one of these free products to the other. I'm considering a switch from Nagios to The Dude myself, but I'd like to hear pros cons of either. What did you switch from/to, and why? Thanks ! Mark

Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude

2010-11-15 Thread Josh Luthman
What are you using it for? If it's for monitoring servers (disk/cpu usage and such) Dude is a joke. If it's for an easy GUI to position things relative to one another, Nagios is going to be difficult. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373

Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude

2010-11-15 Thread Justin Wilson
Nagios, IMHO, is more scalable. If you are monitoring hundreds to 1000+ units Nagios is a better fit. There are some Nagios front ends to help with configuration but they are still clunky compared the The Dude. If I you have a few hundred devices go with the Dude. Justin -- Justin

Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude

2010-11-15 Thread Mark Nash
We have Nagios for monitoring/alerting on: - wireless network components : up/down, flapping, signal levels, is ssh interface responding? - routers: up/down, flapping, utilization, is ssh interface responding? - UPS: up/down, battery capacity, battery status, internal temperature, line power

Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude

2010-11-15 Thread Josh Luthman
I would personally drop those two and use Xymon. Tack on Devmon for router SNMP queries. Though there could be a script to do it, too. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net

Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude

2010-11-15 Thread Jason Hensley
One quick thing, and I don't have experience with Nagios, but I know trying to get Dude to run on Linux for me was a nightmare. We scrapped that pretty quickly and put it back on an XP Pro system. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude

2010-11-15 Thread Josh Luthman
I hated it on both - RouterOS works for me. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: One quick thing, and I don't have experience with Nagios, but I know trying to

Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude

2010-11-15 Thread Jason Hensley
Had trouble with it locking up on RouterOS, but that was a couple of versions ago. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 12:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude I

[WISPA] 5 gig antennas

2010-11-15 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Hi All, I need a 5 gig omni. 8 or 9 dB. I've got one from Winncomm but I don't like it much. The mount seems to place the raydome below the mounting bracket etc. What are folks using and where do you get them? Got a new 5 gig tower that's running about 12dB or so below calculated signal

[WISPA] service in Grove City, OH

2010-11-15 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Someone please help this guy. _ From: John A Sterling [mailto:john.a.sterl...@jpmchase.com] Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 1:33 PM To: k...@wavelinc.com Cc: johnasterling...@gmail.com Subject: wavelinc I saw your web page about your service in Bucyrus. My mom lives on the

Re: [WISPA] 5 gig antennas

2010-11-15 Thread Chuck Profito
I have also been looking for a wide band omni, 5.x like 5.1 to 5.9 apx, where did they go? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 10:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject:

Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude

2010-11-15 Thread Matt Jenkins
What about pnp4nagios for graphing and nagvis for map of network? Have you looked at NINJA for nagios? On 11/15/2010 09:45 AM, Mark Nash wrote: We have Nagios for monitoring/alerting on: - wireless network components : up/down, flapping, signal levels, is ssh interface

Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude

2010-11-15 Thread Josh Luthman
No income no jobs no assets? Couldn't resist... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Matt Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.netwrote: What about pnp4nagios for graphing and nagvis for map of network?

Re: [WISPA] service in Grove City, OH

2010-11-15 Thread Rick Harnish
According to the WISPA member's map, Avolve, Country Connections, NexGen Access and Jenco have Grove City surrounded. http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=enie=UTF8source=embedmsa=0msid=107401

Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude

2010-11-15 Thread Paul Hendry
Dude makes it much easier for support staff to properly support the network and provides all sorts of stats to prove issue to customers. We do however have issues with Dude locking up on both WinXP and RouterOS when the back-end database gets to 2GB. _ From: Jason Hensley

[WISPA] Job Postings or Employment Wanted

2010-11-15 Thread Rick Harnish
If you are looking for work in the WISP industry or have a job posting, please place an ad on the WISPA Classifieds Ads page http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=2297 . I will send out the notification via email as well. Thanks, Rick Harnish Executive Director WISPA 260-307-4000 cell

Re: [WISPA] Job Postings or Employment Wanted

2010-11-15 Thread Rick Harnish
First Job Posting: Hiring an Inside Sales Account Executive Contact Information http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=2305i=76 Contact Elizabeth Olszta Phone: 847-353-1381 Location : Chicago, IL, USA http://www.tbicom.com/insidesales Visit Website More Information Inside Sales Account

Re: [WISPA] 90-mile path (was Wireless Digest, Vol 35, Issue 21)

2010-11-15 Thread Tom DeReggi
The issue will be height. Remember, the longer the link, the taller the freznel zone height requirement will be at the middle of the link. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com To: WISPA

Re: [WISPA] 5 gig antennas

2010-11-15 Thread Matt Jenkins
Larsen RO5810NF 10dbi Omni with N-Female connector. On 11/15/2010 10:42 AM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Hi All, I need a 5 gig omni. 8 or 9 dB. I've got one from Winncomm but I don't like it much. The mount seems to place the raydome below the mounting bracket etc. What are folks using and

[WISPA] Mikrotik Filters Question

2010-11-15 Thread Matt Jenkins
I have 6 virtual wlan interfaces. I want to prevent traffic form any wlan interface to reach any other wlan interface. This includes the IP address of the wlan interface. Besides creating 42 (I think) filters to do this is there any way to group interfaces into a filter template or something?

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Filters Question

2010-11-15 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
A while back I had asked a similar question .. Butch was kind enough to provide a great answer.. see below:- Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom - On 9/17/2010 10:50 AM, Butch Evans wrote: On Fri, 2010-09-17 at 00:11

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Question: Subinterface?

2010-11-15 Thread Matt Jenkins
Ok simplification of what I need to do. I need to get more than 1 DHCP address on the same physical ethernet port I can assign more than 1 static address, so why not more than 1 dynamic address? On 11/02/2010 01:15 PM, Matt Jenkins wrote: How do I create a subinterface on an ethernet port

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Question: Subinterface?

2010-11-15 Thread Josh Luthman
You can only have 1 dhcp server port per interface. You'll need to do vlans. On Nov 15, 2010 6:12 PM, Matt Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.net wrote: Ok simplification of what I need to do. I need to get more than 1 DHCP address on the same physical ethernet port I can assign more than 1

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Question: Subinterface?

2010-11-15 Thread Matt Jenkins
In this instance, I have no control upstream beyond the mikrotik On 11/15/2010 03:16 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: You can only have 1 dhcp server port per interface. You'll need to do vlans. On Nov 15, 2010 6:12 PM, "Matt Jenkins" m...@smarterbroadband.net wrote: Ok simplification of

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Question: Subinterface?

2010-11-15 Thread Blake Covarrubias
A bit more detail…Matt also needs both DHCP clients to operate from the same source MAC address. I sent him a solution that uses two MAC addresses on the same physical port and does not involve VLANs, although its obviously of no use because it does not meet his requirements. What MikroTik

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Question: Subinterface?

2010-11-15 Thread chris
You can have multiple pools to dish to people. I do this in my shop, my computers that are being worked on get an ip out of the default pool, but I set static computers to be dished an ip out of a different pool. For what it's worth... Chris -Original Message- From: Blake Covarrubias

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Filters Question

2010-11-15 Thread Butch Evans
On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 17:51 -0500, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: A while back I had asked a similar question .. Butch was kind enough to provide a great answer.. see below:- Awww, shucks! :-) -- * Butch Evans *

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Question: Subinterface?

2010-11-15 Thread Butch Evans
On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 15:23 -0800, Matt Jenkins wrote: In this instance, I have no control upstream beyond the mikrotik You cannot do multiple dhcp-clients, either (which is what you'd need). -- * Butch Evans

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Filters Question

2010-11-15 Thread Matt Jenkins
Thanks for the reply. None of these wlan interfaces are in a bridge. Each is NATed separately On 11/15/2010 02:51 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: A while back I had asked a similar question .. Butch was kind enough to provide a great answer.. see below:- Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Filters Question

2010-11-15 Thread Butch Evans
On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 14:46 -0800, Matt Jenkins wrote: I have 6 virtual wlan interfaces. I want to prevent traffic form any wlan interface to reach any other wlan interface. This includes the IP address of the wlan interface. Besides creating 42 (I think) filters to do this is there any

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Question: Subinterface?

2010-11-15 Thread Josh Luthman
In terms of requests? Can you add ether1 to multiple bridges, put one dhcpc on each bridge? On Nov 15, 2010 7:00 PM, Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com wrote: On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 15:23 -0800, Matt Jenkins wrote: In this instance, I have no control upstream beyond the mikrotik You cannot

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Question: Subinterface?

2010-11-15 Thread Kristian Hoffmann
I think Chupaka has posted on the MikroTik forms about having luck doing by turning RADIUS on for DHCP requests, and then setting up a freeradius server to handle the assignments. You can set up freeradius to match just about anything. Not the easiest thing in the world, but... -Kristian On

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Question: Subinterface?

2010-11-15 Thread Blake Covarrubias
You cannot add a single interface to multiple bridge's. My failed solution I provided to Matt did involve adding ether1 to a bridge, then setting auto-mac=no and admin-mac on the bridge to something other than ether1. -- Blake Covarrubias On Nov 15, 2010, at 5:13 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: In

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Question: Subinterface?

2010-11-15 Thread Blake Covarrubias
I think you guys are overlooking his statement that he does not control the DHCP server, and was looking to add multiple DHCP *clients* on a single interface using the same MAC in the DHCP requests. A few of us have stated multiple times is not currently possible with MikroTik. The solution

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Filters Question

2010-11-15 Thread Matt Jenkins
awesome thanks! I didn't realize you could specify a != that simplifies a bunch of other filters I have setup before. On 11/15/2010 04:06 PM, Butch Evans wrote: On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 14:46 -0800, Matt Jenkins wrote: I have 6 virtual wlan interfaces. I want to prevent traffic form any

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Question: Subinterface?

2010-11-15 Thread Butch Evans
On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 19:13 -0500, Josh Luthman wrote: In terms of requests? Can you add ether1 to multiple bridges, put one dhcpc on each bridge? Unless this has changed, an interface cannot be on more than one bridge. --

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Question: Subinterface?

2010-11-15 Thread Josh Luthman
Not sure, was a guess. On Nov 15, 2010 7:42 PM, Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com wrote: On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 19:13 -0500, Josh Luthman wrote: In terms of requests? Can you add ether1 to multiple bridges, put one dhcpc on each bridge? Unless this has changed, an interface cannot be on more

Re: [WISPA] MT Console route lookup

2010-11-15 Thread Blake Covarrubias
Nick, I'm an idiot. That last one doesn't work. Try this. /ip route print where 208.65.55.1 in dst-address Works for me. :-) -- Blake Covarrubias On Nov 11, 2010, at 9:30 AM, Blake Covarrubias wrote: Nick, Use regex search. /ip route print where dst-address~208.65.55.1 -- Blake

Re: [WISPA] service in Grove City, OH

2010-11-15 Thread Stuart Pierce
'Just a bit outside' - Bob Euchre -- Original Message -- From: Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 14:20:44 -0500 According to the WISPA member's map, Avolve, Country Connections, NexGen

Re: [WISPA] MT Console route lookup

2010-11-15 Thread Brad Belton
Neither example worked for me on v3.30. What version are you running this command on? Thanks, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blake Covarrubias Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 8:50 PM To: WISPA General List Cc:

Re: [WISPA] MT Console route lookup

2010-11-15 Thread Blake Covarrubias
Brad, I've tested this on 4.9, 4.11, 4.12 and 5.0rc1. -- Blake Covarrubias On Nov 15, 2010, at 8:04 PM, Brad Belton wrote: Neither example worked for me on v3.30. What version are you running this command on? Thanks, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] service in Grove City, OH

2010-11-15 Thread Glenn Kelley
Contact Country Connections - they might be able to help. www.CountryConnections.net On Nov 15, 2010, at 9:52 PM, Stuart Pierce wrote: 3836 georgesville Wrightsville Rd., Grove City, OH 43123 _ Glenn Kelley

Re: [WISPA] MT Console route lookup

2010-11-15 Thread Brad Belton
Ok, I'll give it a try on a v4.11 box. Thanks! Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blake Covarrubias Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 9:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Console route lookup Brad,

Re: [WISPA] MT Console route lookup

2010-11-15 Thread Butch Evans
On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 20:10 -0700, Blake Covarrubias wrote: I've tested this on 4.9, 4.11, 4.12 and 5.0rc1. This was added in 4.x, IIRC. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* *

Re: [WISPA] 5 gig antennas

2010-11-15 Thread Bob Moldashel
WOW! I remember the days when everyone used to ask you these questions.. On 11/15/2010 1:42 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Hi All, I need a 5 gig omni. 8 or 9 dB. I've got one from Winncomm but I don't like it much. The mount seems to place the raydome below the mounting bracket

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Filters Question

2010-11-15 Thread RickG
These kind of questions get my curiosity up. Is there any advantage to splitting out multiple backhauls from my main tower to separate interfaces on my router? Or perhaps even separate routers? -RickG On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: A while back I had

Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude

2010-11-15 Thread RickG
Never, and I mean never, has Dude locked on my Win 2003 server. On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com wrote: Dude makes it much easier for support staff to properly support the network and provides all sorts of stats to prove issue to customers. We do

Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude

2010-11-15 Thread Chuck Hogg
You are lucky. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 12:03 AM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Never, and I mean never, has Dude locked on my Win 2003 server. On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com wrote: Dude makes it much easier for support

Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude

2010-11-15 Thread Josh Luthman
Never locked up for me, I just hate wasting time on Windows servers. On Nov 16, 2010 12:05 AM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: You are lucky. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 12:03 AM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Never, and I mean never, has Dude locked on my Win 2003

Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude

2010-11-15 Thread Adam Kennedy
PNP4Nagios works pretty well. The only thing that I didn't like is that it was a steep (very steep) learning curve for that interface vs. Cacti. I didn't really want to go through and re-create all of my graph templates again so I stuck with Cacti. NINJA is ok, but I found it to be a bit

Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude

2010-11-15 Thread RickG
Not that I have any preferences of OS but to be fair I set up the WIndows 2003 server once (last year) and have never done anything else to it. On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 12:06 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Never locked up for me, I just hate wasting time on Windows servers.

Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude

2010-11-15 Thread Ryan Goldberg
I'll go ahead and plug the Opsview front end to nagios. More than a front end really. I've been using nagios since the netsaint days and didn't want to give up years of hands on experience, but we needed a bit slicker configuration methods. It also *almost* replaces cacti, but not quite.

Re: [WISPA] MT Console route lookup

2010-11-15 Thread Nick Olsen
Worked fine here. Thanks I noticed the last command didn't work and hadn't had a chance to reply back and say it didn't work right. That does the trick however. (5.0rc3) Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Blake Covarrubias