Re: [WISPA] Cordless Phone Ring Interference

2011-12-31 Thread Scott Reed
No idea what model. I will offer them a phone next week, at least one to try and see what happens. On 12/28/2011 5:33 AM, Bret Clark wrote: What model phone is it anyway? Noise floor would have to get pretty high to knock the signal out completely, unless you have poor fade margin to begin

Re: [WISPA] Cordless Phone Ring Interference

2011-12-28 Thread Bret Clark
What model phone is it anyway? Noise floor would have to get pretty high to knock the signal out completely, unless you have poor fade margin to begin with. On 12/27/2011 09:35 PM, Gary Garrett wrote: Yeah, I am sure there is a huge amount of data transferred in the wake up command. The

Re: [WISPA] Cordless Phone Ring Interference

2011-12-28 Thread Scott Lambert
On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 09:56:19PM -0430, Greg Ihnen wrote: Something about the ringing signal sent by the base to the handsets is different. My dad had wireless headphones that received a horrible pop when the cordless phone rang, but there was no interference when talking on the phone. That

Re: [WISPA] Cordless Phone Ring Interference

2011-12-27 Thread Tom DeReggi
Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, December 26, 2011 3:32 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cordless Phone Ring Interference Definitely DECT phone. Version

Re: [WISPA] Cordless Phone Ring Interference

2011-12-27 Thread Josh Luthman
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, December 26, 2011 3:32 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cordless Phone Ring Interference Definitely DECT

Re: [WISPA] Cordless Phone Ring Interference

2011-12-27 Thread Gary Garrett
No, actually the ringing is generated by the handset from the power in its battery. The command to ring is just a series of 1's and 0's sent from the base unit to instruct the handset to ring. On 12/27/2011 5:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: How would the handsets know to ring if not told by the

Re: [WISPA] Cordless Phone Ring Interference

2011-12-27 Thread Josh Luthman
What about from the copper pair to the handset? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 8:52 PM, Gary Garrett ggarr...@nidaho.net wrote: No, actually the ringing is generated by the handset from the power in its

Re: [WISPA] Cordless Phone Ring Interference

2011-12-27 Thread Gary Garrett
The ringing current from the Telco to the base unit is 120 cycles per second AC. It would be more like AC hum on a sound system. I would bet the 2.4 phone system is using most if not all the band at pretty low power. Probably it is the wake up and setup for a call that is knocking out the ISP

Re: [WISPA] Cordless Phone Ring Interference

2011-12-27 Thread Josh Luthman
What I'm getting at is what initiates the ring. The copper pair hits the base unit and then tells all the handsets in the house to ring. I'm suggesting that this is 2.4 and what causes the SM's problem. I've seen a ringing telephone cause a Dlink router to reboot 100% of the time, it was easily

Re: [WISPA] Cordless Phone Ring Interference

2011-12-27 Thread Leon D. Zetekoff
Agreed I think the call setup Is the key Leon Sent from my iPhone On Dec 27, 2011, at 9:10 PM, Gary Garrett ggarr...@nidaho.net wrote: The ringing current from the Telco to the base unit is 120 cycles per second AC. It would be more like AC hum on a sound system. I would bet the 2.4

Re: [WISPA] Cordless Phone Ring Interference

2011-12-27 Thread Fred Goldstein
At 12/27/2011 09:10 PM, Gary Garrett wrote: The ringing current from the Telco to the base unit is 120 cycles per second AC. It would be more like AC hum on a sound system. Actually it's a 20 Hz near-square wave, 90 volts nominal. It is thus much, much more powerful than the talk voltage, since

Re: [WISPA] Cordless Phone Ring Interference

2011-12-27 Thread Gary Garrett
Yeah, I am sure there is a huge amount of data transferred in the wake up command. The handsets go into a sleep mode to give max battery life. The ring command is probably just all 0's or all 1's like the old frame relay connections use to tell the other end to loop back. The actual talk data

Re: [WISPA] Cordless Phone Ring Interference

2011-12-27 Thread Greg Ihnen
wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, December 26, 2011 3:32 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cordless Phone Ring Interference Definitely DECT phone. Version doesn't matter - it's all in the 1.9 band. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373

[WISPA] Cordless Phone Ring Interference

2011-12-26 Thread Scott Reed
I have a customer that has determined that every time the phone rings, the Internet goes down. Once the phone is answered, the Internet works. We are using 2.4GHz to the house, with an integrated Arc panel on the roof. The customer has checked and the phone does not have a channel selection

Re: [WISPA] Cordless Phone Ring Interference

2011-12-26 Thread Mike Hammett
Hammer? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 12/26/2011 2:10 PM, Scott Reed wrote: I have a customer that has determined that every time the phone rings, the Internet goes down. Once the phone is answered, the Internet works. We are using 2.4GHz to

Re: [WISPA] Cordless Phone Ring Interference

2011-12-26 Thread Dennis Burgess
] Cordless Phone Ring Interference I have a customer that has determined that every time the phone rings, the Internet goes down. Once the phone is answered, the Internet works. We are using 2.4GHz to the house, with an integrated Arc panel on the roof. The customer has checked and the phone does

Re: [WISPA] Cordless Phone Ring Interference

2011-12-26 Thread Leon D. Zetekoff
R u running sub channels? That might work Ldz Sent from my iPhone On Dec 26, 2011, at 3:13 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: Hammer? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 12/26/2011 2:10 PM, Scott Reed wrote: I have a customer

Re: [WISPA] Cordless Phone Ring Interference

2011-12-26 Thread Brian Webster
, December 26, 2011 3:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Cordless Phone Ring Interference I have a customer that has determined that every time the phone rings, the Internet goes down. Once the phone is answered, the Internet works. We are using 2.4GHz to the house, with an integrated Arc

Re: [WISPA] Cordless Phone Ring Interference

2011-12-26 Thread Leon D. Zetekoff
-Mapping.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Monday, December 26, 2011 3:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Cordless Phone Ring Interference I have a customer that has determined that every

Re: [WISPA] Cordless Phone Ring Interference

2011-12-26 Thread Josh Luthman
-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Monday, December 26, 2011 3:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Cordless Phone Ring Interference I have a customer that has determined that every time the phone rings, the Internet goes down.  Once

Re: [WISPA] Cordless Phone Ring Interference

2011-12-26 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
www.wirelessmapping.com www.Broadband-Mapping.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Monday, December 26, 2011 3:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Cordless Phone Ring Interference I have a customer

Re: [WISPA] Cordless Phone Ring Interference

2011-12-26 Thread Blair Davis
On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Monday, December 26, 2011 3:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Cordless Phone Ring Interference I have a customer that has determined that every time the phone rings, the Internet goes down. Once the phone is answered, the Internet works. We are using 2.4GHz to