Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

2012-02-28 Thread Gino Villarini
] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear A contact at the FCC told me years ago that it meant you can not do /new/ installs of the old DFS gear. Anyone have a FCC rep saying something different? Why not Canopy

Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

2012-02-28 Thread Jeromie Reeves
- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear A contact at the FCC told me years ago that it meant you can not do /new/ installs of the old DFS

Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

2012-02-28 Thread Freylekhman, Alex
afreylekh...@axxcelera.com www.axxcelera.com -Original Message- From: Gino Villarini [mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear Yikes, seem ages you haven't looked at Canopy, Classic Aps do 14 Mbps, new ones

Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

2012-02-28 Thread Gino Villarini
: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Freylekhman, Alex Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:56 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear Gino, In regards to the 90mbps - 2x2 mimo can either be set as matrix A or B, there is a decision

Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

2012-02-28 Thread Gino Villarini
List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear Aleksander, the Cambium networks System its not Wimax based, its proprietary RF on FPGA so no contains or Wimax protocol compromises... 90 Mbps will be available at the AP... Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143

Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

2012-02-28 Thread Freylekhman, Alex
To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear And low latency to boot!!! Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Tuesday

Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

2012-02-28 Thread Josh Luthman
- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Freylekhman, Alex Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:56 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear Gino, In regards to the 90mbps -  2x2  mimo can either be set as matrix A or B

Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

2012-02-28 Thread Gino Villarini
, Alex Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 1:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear LOL .. the low latency is true, can't argue here. WiMAX does carry a latency of ~3-4 times the frame duration. However, MIMO is not WiMAX specific. It's about spatial multiplexing and diversity

Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

2012-02-28 Thread Freylekhman, Alex
: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:18 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear Well, they have the Secret Sauce... but I cant tell you! You're from the Dark Side! Lol! Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From

Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

2012-02-28 Thread Tom DeReggi
- Original Message - From: Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 8:40 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear A contact at the FCC told me years ago that it meant you can not do /new/ installs of the old DFS gear. Anyone

Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

2012-02-28 Thread Tom DeReggi
, CAnopy versus Trango thread :-) Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 11:21 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

2012-02-28 Thread Tom DeReggi
@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 11:55 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear Gino, In regards to the 90mbps - 2x2 mimo can either be set as matrix A or B, there is a decision to be made if you go after distance or capacity. Aleksander Freylekhman Sales Director, North America

Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

2012-02-28 Thread Gino Villarini
: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 4:34 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear No question that Canopy stayed in the PtMP game longer, to go beyond the 10mb barrier, with advantage line and OFDM.. But to keep it real At a typical Trango Link Budget / Max distance, inserting

Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

2012-02-28 Thread Brad Belton
, CAnopy versus Trango thread :-) Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 11:21 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

2012-02-28 Thread Freylekhman, Alex
General List wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear We did an evaluation of Axxelera a number of years back, and we felt it was a pretty hot product, and more affordable than some of the alternatives.. (But then Ubiquiti came out with Dirt cheap MIMO) Axxelera Rep

Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

2012-02-28 Thread Gino Villarini
@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear We did an evaluation of Axxelera a number of years back, and we felt it was a pretty hot product, and more affordable than some of the alternatives.. (But then Ubiquiti came out with Dirt cheap MIMO) Axxelera Rep, Are you saying Axxelera now has a MIMO prioduct

Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

2012-02-28 Thread Freylekhman, Alex
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 16:43:11 -0500 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear This are air rates our

Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

2012-02-28 Thread Josh Luthman
wireless@wispa.org Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear This are air rates our real troughput? Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Feb 28, 2012, at 5:19 PM, Freylekhman, Alex afreylekh...@axxcelera.com wrote: Tom, The MIMO comment made earlier

Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

2012-02-28 Thread Freylekhman, Alex
Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 17:03:41 -0500 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear I think you mean lower

Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

2012-02-28 Thread Josh Luthman
...@imaginenetworksllc.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 17:03:41 -0500 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear I think you mean lower? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373

[WISPA] DFS2 gear

2012-02-27 Thread Jeromie Reeves
Is there anything out there that is DFS2 certified for PtMP ? I know of Canopy and (someday) Ubnt. Everything else I know if is hi-cap PtP but all my links are to long for those. Jeromie Reeves ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

2012-02-27 Thread Josh Luthman
Trango 5830 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: Is there anything out there that is DFS2 certified for PtMP ? I know of Canopy and (someday) Ubnt.

Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

2012-02-27 Thread Jeromie Reeves
The Trango site says For export only. Not for U.S.A. on the 5.3 gear. This would indicate it has DFS but not DFS2. Am I looking at the wrong product? http://www.trangobroadband.com/wireless-products/multipoint-broadband-access/Access5830-System.aspx On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 8:25 AM, Josh Luthman

Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

2012-02-27 Thread Josh Luthman
Old stuff is grandfathered in. Not sure about DFS versus DFS2. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: The Trango site says For export only. Not for U.S.A. on

Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

2012-02-27 Thread Randy Cosby
Don't bother.. It's old discontinued equipment. On 2/27/2012 11:45 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Old stuff is grandfathered in. Not sure about DFS versus DFS2. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 1:36 PM,

Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

2012-02-27 Thread Freylekhman, Alex
General List Subject: [WISPA] DFS2 gear Is there anything out there that is DFS2 certified for PtMP ? I know of Canopy and (someday) Ubnt. Everything else I know if is hi-cap PtP but all my links are to long for those. Jeromie Reeves ___ Wireless

Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

2012-02-27 Thread Gino Villarini
: [WISPA] DFS2 gear Is there anything out there that is DFS2 certified for PtMP ? I know of Canopy and (someday) Ubnt. Everything else I know if is hi-cap PtP but all my links are to long for those. Jeromie Reeves ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless

Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

2012-02-27 Thread Josh Luthman
Ya, but if you need a 5.3 link that needs a meg or two Trango works amazingly well. Hardware is solid and talk about some cheap radios! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Randy Cosby

Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

2012-02-27 Thread Tom DeReggi
, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 1:36 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear The Trango site says For export only. Not for U.S.A. on the 5.3

Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

2012-02-27 Thread Josh Luthman
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 1:36 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear The Trango site says For export only. Not for U.S.A. on the 5.3 gear

Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

2012-02-27 Thread Jeromie Reeves
A contact at the FCC told me years ago that it meant you can not do /new/ installs of the old DFS gear. Anyone have a FCC rep saying something different? Why not Canopy? $2000 AP's, $400 CPE and 3~4mbit. I am sure that has came down since my first Canopy pack back in the pre-nehalm(sp) days.

Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

2012-02-27 Thread Josh Luthman
The way I see it, technically, is if the AP is in the air what does it matter if you did another customer? I only have 1 AP that is using it, there were 2 customers. Never touched them myself (2007 forward). They are moving to Ubnt 2.4 now. Didn't spend any time researching rules. Josh

Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

2012-02-27 Thread Jeromie Reeves
Yea but the FCC does not agree and I have no desire to find out what the fines might be. If I felt like skirting the rules I would lightup some Ubnt on 5.4 with DFS2. At least that has the radar scanning the FCC wants. They say they are just waiting on certs for the other M gear. I am feeling