Re: [WISPA] Pan flutes on the tower

2010-04-05 Thread Data Technology
I bet if you cap the ends it will quit whistling. I have the same problem on one of my towers. I have a 1.5 dia pipe as a standoff and it will make sounds when the wind blows. I was up there on a windy day once and I could put my hand over the top of the pipe and it would quit whistling. LaRoy

Re: [WISPA] Pan flutes on the tower

2010-04-05 Thread Josh Luthman
Makes sense. Just like when you blow over a bottle (root beer, beer, etc - the glass ones). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston

Re: [WISPA] Pan flutes on the tower

2010-04-05 Thread Justin Wilson
2010 12:17:15 -0400 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pan flutes on the tower Makes sense. Just like when you blow over a bottle (root beer, beer, etc - the glass ones). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373

Re: [WISPA] Pan flutes on the tower

2010-04-05 Thread Mike
, 2010 11:04 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pan flutes on the tower I bet if you cap the ends it will quit whistling. I have the same problem on one of my towers. I have a 1.5 dia pipe as a standoff and it will make sounds when the wind blows. I was up there on a windy day once and I

Re: [WISPA] Pan flutes on the tower

2010-04-05 Thread Data Technology
- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Data Technology Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 11:04 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pan flutes on the tower I bet if you cap the ends it will quit whistling. I have the same problem on one

[WISPA] Pan flutes on the tower

2010-04-03 Thread Mike
A while back, the amateur community talked me into putting a ham antenna on my highest tower. It is a dual band 2 meter 70 cm DC grounded unit (as per my specs). I built a mount which offsets the stick a couple feet from the tower. A piece of 1 inch PVC through which I passed a piece of poly

Re: [WISPA] Pan flutes on the tower

2010-04-03 Thread Charles Hooper
Have you tried plugging the ends of the PVC to see if the sound subsides? If you're lucky, it's not the antenna but the sound of the wind passing through the pipe (it sounds like it gets windy up there!) -- Charles Mike wrote: A while back, the amateur community talked me into putting a ham

Re: [WISPA] Pan flutes on the tower

2010-04-03 Thread Mike
] On Behalf Of Charles Hooper Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 9:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pan flutes on the tower Have you tried plugging the ends of the PVC to see if the sound subsides? If you're lucky, it's not the antenna but the sound of the wind passing through the pipe

Re: [WISPA] Pan flutes on the tower

2010-04-03 Thread AJ
Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Charles Hooper Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 9:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pan flutes on the tower Have you tried plugging the ends of the PVC to see if the sound subsides

Re: [WISPA] Pan flutes on the tower

2010-04-03 Thread Brian Webster
Of Mike Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 9:52 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Pan flutes on the tower A while back, the amateur community talked me into putting a ham antenna on my highest tower. It is a dual band 2 meter 70 cm DC grounded unit (as per my specs). I built a mount which

Re: [WISPA] Pan flutes on the tower

2010-04-03 Thread Mike
. The feed point of the antenna is 120 foot on a 180 foot tower. Mike -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of AJ Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 9:47 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pan flutes on the tower Got pics

Re: [WISPA] Pan flutes on the tower

2010-04-03 Thread AJ
- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of AJ Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 9:47 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pan flutes on the tower Got pics? On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote

Re: [WISPA] Pan flutes on the tower

2010-04-03 Thread Brian Webster
: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 9:52 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Pan flutes on the tower A while back, the amateur community talked me into putting a ham antenna on my highest tower. It is a dual band 2

Re: [WISPA] Pan flutes on the tower

2010-04-03 Thread Mike
' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pan flutes on the tower If the rope goes through that PVC and the wind is blowing, the rope would move changing the shape inside the pipe or the surface over the ends of the pipe thus altering the tone. Brian -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Pan flutes on the tower

2010-04-03 Thread Mike
...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brian Webster Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 10:11 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pan flutes on the tower When I ran a tower construction company, the crews used to tape over the ends of pipes when they were on top of the truck going to a job site

Re: [WISPA] Pan flutes on the tower

2010-04-03 Thread AJ
-Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brian Webster Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 10:11 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pan flutes on the tower When I ran a tower construction company, the crews used

Re: [WISPA] Pan flutes on the tower

2010-04-03 Thread Robert West
To: bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com; 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pan flutes on the tower Wind through that short piece of pvc was my first suspect. But, Bernouli effect asside, wouldn't a single pan flute create a single tone? There are 4 distinct tones! It really does play this eerie melody

Re: [WISPA] Pan flutes on the tower

2010-04-03 Thread Mike
...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 10:26 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pan flutes on the tower Maybe you have some weird lookin' dude with hairy pants hanging around. Let the dogs out next time, maybe they will catch him. Bob- -Original

Re: [WISPA] Pan flutes on the tower

2010-04-03 Thread Mike
entertainment this Saturday morning. Mike -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of AJ Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 10:23 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pan flutes on the tower Try a second member

Re: [WISPA] Pan flutes on the tower

2010-04-03 Thread Josh Luthman
:23 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pan flutes on the tower Try a second member in the center to properly brace it completely vertically, wrap all of the pot metal joints with eletrical tape and hope it disappears LOL... Also look at the bottom of the antenna mount where

Re: [WISPA] Pan flutes on the tower

2010-04-03 Thread AJ
To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pan flutes on the tower Try a second member in the center to properly brace it completely vertically, wrap all of the pot metal joints with eletrical tape and hope it disappears LOL... Also look at the bottom of the antenna mount where the coax

Re: [WISPA] Pan flutes on the tower

2010-04-03 Thread Mike
...@aweiowa.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of AJ Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 10:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pan flutes on the tower Comet, Diamond and a number of off shore companies (Workman/Opek

Re: [WISPA] Pan flutes on the tower

2010-04-03 Thread AJ
: Re: [WISPA] Pan flutes on the tower Comet, Diamond and a number of off shore companies (Workman/Opek/Tram/Browning/Jetstream) all make a variant of this antenna - the most common failure we've had is wind on top mounts snapping them in half... If you looked at the inside prior to it being

Re: [WISPA] Pan flutes on the tower

2010-04-03 Thread Greg Ihnen
, Mike wrote: -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of AJ Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 9:47 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pan flutes on the tower Got pics? On Sat

Re: [WISPA] Pan flutes on the tower

2010-04-03 Thread RickG
To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pan flutes on the tower Try a second member in the center to properly brace it completely vertically, wrap all of the pot metal joints with eletrical tape and hope it disappears LOL... Also look at the bottom of the antenna mount where

Re: [WISPA] Pan flutes on the tower

2010-04-03 Thread Greg Ihnen
To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pan flutes on the tower When I ran a tower construction company, the crews used to tape over the ends of pipes when they were on top of the truck going to a job site. They said the noise from the wind blowing through them would drive them crazy while

Re: [WISPA] Pan flutes on the tower

2010-04-03 Thread eje
:26 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pan flutes on the tower I find the whole thing very interesting at least :) On 4/3/10, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: It took a few minutes to get my recording stuff together. I was going to make a digital recording of the sound

Re: [WISPA] Pan flutes on the tower

2010-04-03 Thread Jeremie Chism
BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 11:49:26 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pan flutes on the tower I find the whole thing very interesting at least :) On 4/3/10, Mike m

Re: [WISPA] Pan flutes on the tower

2010-04-03 Thread Scottie Arnett
To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pan flutes on the tower Have you tried plugging the ends of the PVC to see if the sound subsides? If you're lucky, it's not the antenna but the sound of the wind passing through the pipe (it sounds like it gets windy up there!) -- Charles

Re: [WISPA] Pan flutes on the tower

2010-04-03 Thread Mike
To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pan flutes on the tower Could the big stick possibly be vibrating at the frequencies you're hearing? You sure it's not the wire antenna you're hearing or guy wires or something? Greg On Apr 3, 2010, at 10:49 AM, Mike wrote: Wind through that short piece