Ray,
Congratulations on the sudden positive change in WalMarts behavior.
Please keep us updated. If any wireless issues or questions come up
during discussions with their engineer please post those questions or
issues.
Thanks,
jack
Ray Jean wrote:
Hello Everyone
Wanted to update
That rocks! Great work!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Ray Jean
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 12:33 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update
Hello Everyone
Wanted to update you on our walmart rfid problem.We
That's great Ray
Can you post the contact info here in case someone else runs into this
issue??
Thanks and good luck with them
Bob
Ray Jean wrote:
Hello Everyone
Wanted to update you on our walmart rfid problem.We spent hours on monday
trying to talk to someone on their rfid deployment
Please let us know what you end up doing to resolve the problem, we have
wal-marts in 2 of our towns and we run 900. I'm sure it is coming
Mike Bushard, Jr
Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC
320-256-WISP (9477)
320-256-9478 Fax
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Dylan,
Wal-mart found out about the post on www.dslreports.com on their own. It
was a news topic on the main page that pointed to the forum thread.
There was really nothing negative mentioned in the topic( well one thing
, but more of a last resort kind of fix ), rather trying to get some
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From: Dylan Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 12:02 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update
Congratulations on the change of heart you've found in Walmart. Did you
happen to mention to them that you
Hill
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From: Dylan Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 12:02 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update
Congratulations on the change of heart you've found in Walmart. Did you
Is it only a concern for 900 Mhz?
Mark McElvy
AccuBak Data Systems, Inc.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Ryan Langseth
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 11:01 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update
For those
, March 15, 2007 11:01 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update
For those that have walmarts in their area, I would suggest starting
talking to them ahead of time, you may be able it prevent the same
problem from happening on your towers. I would bet all walmarts
Here is a link to the specific page at Broadband Reports:
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/82238?brk=2
You can bet there was a good reason that made it to the front page there
too. ;-)
Ryan Morgan wrote:
Dylan,
Wal-mart found out about the post on www.dslreports.com on their own.
It was
It's nice to see them do the right thing. Too bad it had to happen that
way.
laters,
marlon
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From: Ray Jean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 9:32 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update
Hello Everyone
Wow, so the bad PR worked, eh?
When you meet their guy, let him know we just want to get along ;) -
get his name number, invite him to dinner and make friends. It's
always good to get a guy on the inside!
On 3/14/07, Ray Jean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Everyone
Wanted to update you on our
Congratulations on the change of heart you've found in Walmart. Did you
happen to mention to them that you were posting complaints about their
system in the Broadband Reports Forums, or did they discover this
themselves? They must (or should) have a search appliance dedicated to
sniffing out the
Also report back what actually was done as I also have a walmart and a
900 system.
You have a Good Day now,
Carl A Jeptha
http://www.airnet.ca
Office Phone: 905 349-2084
Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm
skype cajeptha
Dylan Oliver wrote:
Congratulations on the change of heart you've found in
Hi,
You may want to try changing polarity and see if that helps. Often going
from vertical to horizontal will make a big difference.
Travis
Microserv
Ray Jean wrote:
Hello List
We have an interference problem come up this week that we have been unable to resolve.Hopefully someone here has
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To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 11:47 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] walmart rfid
Hi,
You may want to try changing polarity and see if that helps. Often going
from vertical to horizontal will make a big difference.
Travis
Microserv
Ray Jean wrote:
Hello List We
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 11:47 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] walmart rfid
Hi,
You may want to try changing polarity and see if that helps. Often going
from vertical to horizontal will make a big difference.
Travis
Microserv
Ray Jean wrote:
Hello List We have an interference problem come up
How far is this from your site? Are they exceding 36db ERP?
If they are exceding ERP and you can prove it by taking spectrum
analyser out there have your lawyer send a certified letter to ADT and
Walmart manager with this info and quotes from FCC rules and
regulations.
If there not exceding
Subject: Re: [WISPA] walmart rfid
If their signal occupies the whole band it is probably FHSS in nature.
So changing to a 5 or 10 Mhz. channel will not be possible. Also, it
may not be possible to turn down the power. So it may not be that simple.
A certified letter from an attorney is probably
but it might
encourge them to be better rf neighbors maybe.
Thanks
Ray Hill
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To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 11:47 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] walmart rfid
Hi,
You may want to try changing
st
Subject: Re: [WISPA] walmart rfid
If their signal occupies the whole band it is probably FHSS in nature.
So changing to a 5 or 10 Mhz. channel will not be possible. Also, it
may not be possible to turn down the power. So it may not be that simple.
A certified letter from an attorney is pro
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] walmart rfid
If their signal occupies the whole band it is probably FHSS in nature.
So changing to a 5 or 10 Mhz. channel will not be possible. Also, it
may not be possible to turn down the power. So it may not be that simple.
A certified
, March 11, 2007 2:41 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] walmart rfid
If their signal occupies the whole band it is probably FHSS in nature.
So changing to a 5 or 10 Mhz. channel will not be possible. Also, it
may not be possible to turn down the power. So it may not be t
Lots of C4 ? Could be a solution... Right Rich Harnish ? :)
JohnnyO
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Ray Jean
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 11:40 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] walmart rfid
Hello List
We have an interference
letter or bb gun, your choice... ;)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Bob Moldashel
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 2:41 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] walmart rfid
If their signal
... ;)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Bob Moldashel
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 2:41 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] walmart rfid
If their signal occupies the whole band it is probably FHSS in nature.
So changing to a 5 or 10 Mhz
On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 15:12:13 -0400, Rick Smith wrote
no, 900 mhz rfid would be 20mhz bands. They MUST be exceeding EIRP,
tho, because I've never seen problems with rfid at close ranges like
that, and not having good reads with normal, or even less than
normal power. Problem is, rfid is
tell your customers to go to wal-mart and complain J
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Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 3:29 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] walmart rfid
The bigger issue is are your customers going to wait WEEKS while
:49 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] walmart rfid
Travis
Thanks for the input .that is a possible solution but not one that could
be implemented quickly or easily.It would require a new Hpol omni about
$2200 a climb to install it and a trip to about 100 customers home to
change their eum antenna to h
. Have you pulled
out a spectrum analyzer and looked at what's really going on yet?
laters,
marlon
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To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] walmart rfid
Travis
Thanks
in relation to your affected tower site?
Ralph
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Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 2:43 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] walmart rfid
How far is this from your site? Are they exceding 36db ERP
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Bob Moldashel
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 11:41 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] walmart rfid
If their signal occupies the whole band it is probably FHSS in nature.
So changing to a 5 or 10 Mhz. channel will not be possible. Also, it
may
4:45 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] walmart rfid
Come on Marlon... even if all 100 customers went in and complained, the
manager at Walmart is going to say You'll have to call corporate...
there is nothing I can do. Sending letters, going in person, etc. is
not going to do anything. Walmart doesn't
4:45 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] walmart rfid
Come on Marlon... even if all 100 customers went in and complained, the
manager at Walmart is going to say You'll have to call corporate...
there is nothing I can do. Sending letters, going in person, etc. is
not going to do anything. Walmart doesn't
When we were in DC a couple years ago they told us that rfid was going
900 so beware. You've just re - emphasized that fact.
S0 now we know, 900 is even worse for us to use than we previously realized.
Ray Jean wrote:
Hey All
We really appreciate you taking the time to offer your ideas on
Good Grief. Log into the CCU and do a Spectrum Scan (spec ana) to find out
what's really going on with your network (if you don't know how to do the
Spectrum Analysis, then read the Manual - it works quite well, and you can
print it to a nice PDF doc. Once you have done that, determine a better
Yes, all the comments have been interesting but BEWARE...
Keep in mind that switching to horizontal polarization might not work if
the Walmart system is already using horizontal polarization.
I'd suggest getting a spectrum analyzer and taking a picture of the
Walmart system using both
yeah? Wait'll 700 mhz is unlicensed. Talk about the perfect rfid spectrum.
fUn
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of George Rogato
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 9:22 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Walmart
When we were in DC
Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
In the end, they'll get theirs. What goes around comes around.
Someone will finally have had enough of their arrogant attitudes and
things will change. I know they are building stores all over the
place, and they are always packed. But someone somehow will find a
is the store in relation to your affected tower site?
Ralph
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 2:43 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] walmart rfid
How far is this from your site
But in reality, it's not any different than another WISP putting up a
900mhz tower... rfid falls under the same power regulations as everyone
else.
We have LOTS of 900mhz stuff in the air and it doesn't seem to have any
more noise issues than our 2.4ghz or 5.8ghz gear.
Travis
Microserv
List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] walmart rfid
think this'll be true @ my local wal mart too ? I'm about 1000 feet from
one.
Just do a 900 mhz survey in their parking lot ?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of rwf
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 7:00 PM
Rogato
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 9:22 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Walmart
When we were in DC a couple years ago they told us that rfid was going
900 so beware. You've just re - emphasized that fact.
S0 now we know, 900 is even worse for us to use than we previously realized
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Walmart
But in reality, it's not any different than another WISP putting up a
900mhz tower... rfid falls under the same power regulations as everyone
else.
We have LOTS of 900mhz stuff in the air and it doesn't seem to have any
more noise issues than our
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Walmart
yeah? Wait'll 700 mhz is unlicensed. Talk about the perfect rfid
spectrum.
fUn
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of George Rogato
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 9:22 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA
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From: Marlon K. Schafer
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:07:49 -0800
Subject:
Re: [WISPA] Walmart
Just another reason we have to fight hard to prevent personal portable
devices.
Maybe we should
General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Walmart
That would be a losing battle, as we have RFID deployed all over the ship
yards, the railroad and soon airport cargo facilities. The large enterprise
lobby will no doubt chime in.
-Dee
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