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Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff
Check out Mailfoundry also...
http://www.mailfoundry.com/
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Christopher Hair
NTInet Inc
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun
With Exim you can ratelimit. Used to have the same problem tell I did this.
http://www.exim.org/exim-html-current/doc/html/spec_html/ch40.html#SECTratelimiting
# This limits each IP to 1000 recipients in 12 hour period
warn ratelimit = 1000 / 12h / per_rcpt / strict
delay = 20s
I don't know about those, but Frontbridge got blacklisted once and they
are an anti-spam provider
John
George Rogato wrote:
How come Google, Yahoo, and Live.com don't get black listed.
I'm pretty sure 1 million times more spam comes out of those domains
than any small independent isp's
http://www.mxlogic.com/services/email-filtering/index.cfm
they have done good by us.
John
George Rogato wrote:
Wonder how much it is.
Says it's based on qty of email addresses.
RickG wrote:
Cost?
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Pat O'Connorp...@inlandnet.com wrote:
We're
:58 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff
Email? We don't need no stinkin' email!
We gave up email hosting. We were sending invoices via email and lots of
the customers were never getting them because they never used the email
address we gave them, they were mostly using Yahoo online
28, 2009 5:47 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff
I've heard this type arguement for years, and I don;t thinl people really
get what its all really about
In the ISP business there are two type of providers
1) Ones that take responsibilty and go beyond
AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff
We are moving to Postfix with PolicyD (http://www.policyd.org) to
solve this exact problem.
PolicyD lets you limit the total number of emails sent per user per
day. No reason a normal home user should be sending 1000
DeReggi
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 5:47 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff
I've heard this type arguement for years, and I don;t thinl people really
get what its all really about
In the ISP business there are two type of providers
1) Ones that take
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From: David ad...@speedyquick.net
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 7:01 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff
We have been using policyd for a while in conjunction with redirecting all
outbound port 25 traffic to our smtp server. Works great
, 2009 5:45 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff
redirecting all outbound port 25 traffic to our smtp server
Doesn't that create a lot of extra work for you, or problems for your
clients?
For example, when they use their office server mail from home
...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of George Rogato
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 1:42 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff
I almost feel the same way too.
But a funny thing is, some of our customers like our email. It never has
virus, and we have
.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 12:44 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff
I have thought about this many times as well. I couldnt make a clean
break so I
How come Google, Yahoo, and Live.com don't get black listed.
I'm pretty sure 1 million times more spam comes out of those domains
than any small independent isp's ...
Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
Hi All,
What are you guys doing for email these days? I LOVE my setup for it's
reliability,
after
the damage is done.
There has to be a better way.
marlon
- Original Message -
From: George Rogato wi...@oregonfast.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:36 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff
How come Google, Yahoo, and Live.com
We are moving to Postfix with PolicyD (http://www.policyd.org) to
solve this exact problem.
PolicyD lets you limit the total number of emails sent per user per
day. No reason a normal home user should be sending 1000 messages per
day and this will let us limit it. There may be a plugin for Courier
. I have to catch things
after
the damage is done.
There has to be a better way.
marlon
- Original Message -
From: George Rogato wi...@oregonfast.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:36 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff
How
Marlon
We use FRANK MUTO. Ever since we made the change, email has been a nice 5
letter word, instead of a repetitive prefixed 4 letter one :-).
And our customers really like the change. Mostly for the full featured back
end and their own spam control.
Not to mention, 90% of that bandwidth usage
There are whitelist companies. Goog/yahoo/live and other popular web
sites (ie mc donalds/BofA etc) pay 50k+ a year to be on that list.
People then subscribe to that list and pass the traffic uninhibited for
a share of the profit.
I previously worked at an event management company that got
One of the things I've done in the spam war is to use something called ASSP,
which is just Anti Spam SMTP Proxy.
It does a passable job of prevening inbound spam, and it prevents anyone not
on my network from sending mail out through my server, via firewall rules
put on the server.
You can
We're switching to this over this weekend.
http://www.redcondor.com/products/appliances.htm
rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote:
One of the things I've done in the spam war is to use something called ASSP,
which is just Anti Spam SMTP Proxy.
It does a passable job of prevening inbound spam,
Have you looked into Postini?
Josh Luthman
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On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Pat
We've been using Barracuda boxes. Pretty happy with them.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 3:16 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff
Have you
Trimmell
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 3:38 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff
We've been using Barracuda boxes. Pretty happy with them.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent
wrote:
We've been using Barracuda boxes. Pretty happy with them.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 3:16 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff
Email? We don't need no stinkin' email!
We gave up email hosting. We were sending invoices via email and lots of
the customers were never getting them because they never used the email
address we gave them, they were mostly using Yahoo online! The user
accounts were jammed packed of just junk
I use Gmail for ISPs. Minimal support.
On 6/26/09, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
Email? We don't need no stinkin' email!
We gave up email hosting. We were sending invoices via email and lots of
the customers were never getting them because they never used the email
address
We provide service mostly to business, many of them run their own
email servers.
So we are looking for a transparent outgoing email filter
Any sugestions?
Sent from my Motorola Startac...
On Jun 26, 2009, at 7:25 PM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
I use Gmail for
, June 26, 2009 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff
Marlon
We use FRANK MUTO. Ever since we made the change, email has been a nice 5
letter word, instead of a repetitive prefixed 4 letter one :-).
And our customers really like the change. Mostly for the full featured
back
end
?
- Original Message -
From: Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.com
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff
Marlon
We use FRANK MUTO. Ever since we made the change, email has been a nice
5
letter word
General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff
Marlon
We use FRANK MUTO. Ever since we made the change, email has been a nice 5
letter word, instead of a repetitive prefixed 4 letter one :-).
And our customers really like
There are a bunch of companies that will outsource it for cheap -- for
example...I know IKANO is reselling a branded gmail interface (e.g., you get
all the functionality of Gmail and GApps but with your domain)
-Charles
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
Gmail Partner Edition. $0.35/mo/box and never a worry. We paid nothing for
setup fees, going through Joseph M at IKANO.
We used Everyone.net in the past, but I'd stay as *far away* from them as
possible. We had some large clients hosted with them and when the large
clients were a few months
Couldn't you just go to google.com/a and sign up yourself?
On 6/26/09, Charles Wu c...@cticonnect.com wrote:
There are a bunch of companies that will outsource it for cheap -- for
example...I know IKANO is reselling a branded gmail interface (e.g., you get
all the functionality of Gmail and
The partner edition gives you migration capability, an API for integration
with a CRM, better support from Google, and some other things.
There were a couple other reasons we had to go partner, I don't recall them
all. But at only 35c/mo/box, it's not bad.
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Josh
Partner is ISP edition, right?
If so coming from the free edition you actually get support. Free
does not offer support.
Thanks for sharing the 35c/user figure, heard a lot of it isn't free
talk but numbers.
On 6/26/09, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote:
The partner edition gives you
Yes, ISP edition.
Another of the big points was with the paid version, you don't get any ads.
Obviously with the free version, you have a side full of ads (unless, of
course, you use IMAP/POP3).
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote:
Partner is ISP
You might want to check out the Tucows hosted email solution.
IIRC their price per box was a bit lower than Gmail.
They had a API, migration assistance, etc.
We looked at both and decided to keep rolling our own as it was
cheaper to pay someone to maintain than to outsource.
On 6/26/09, Jayson
Cost?
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Pat O'Connorp...@inlandnet.com wrote:
We're switching to this over this weekend.
http://www.redcondor.com/products/appliances.htm
rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote:
One of the things I've done in the spam war is to use something called ASSP,
which is
I have thought about this many times as well. I couldnt make a clean
break so I practically keep it a secret that we offer it. They only
get our email if they ask. Now, if we can drop the electrical
storms!!!
-RickG
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Robert Westrobert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
How long have you been using them?
Has it worked out well?
-RickG
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 7:24 PM, Josh
Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
I use Gmail for ISPs. Minimal support.
On 6/26/09, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
Email? We don't need no stinkin' email!
We
I almost feel the same way too.
But a funny thing is, some of our customers like our email. It never has
virus, and we have a spam filter provider that sends a daily quarantine
report and those emails never make it to my server.
So for the most part, everything is great till we get blacklisted.
Wonder how much it is.
Says it's based on qty of email addresses.
RickG wrote:
Cost?
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Pat O'Connorp...@inlandnet.com wrote:
We're switching to this over this weekend.
http://www.redcondor.com/products/appliances.htm
rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote:
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