Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE
Any good leads on coverage yet? Brian Rohrbacher wrote: I'll bet we could get coverage for the liability, but the riders for gear might be another thing. If one company handles a ton of WISPs, that is a lot of lightning pay outs... Dylan Oliver wrote: I'm now talking to Jamie Davis of a NASBA (Association of System Builders) insurance program. He's been helpful so far, and I've suggested they facilitate the insurance process for WISPs. I don't know what they've got yet, but check them out: Jamie Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1908 South el Camino Real San Clemente, CA 92672 949-322-3481 fax. 949-489-9693 Best, -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/198 - Release Date: 12/12/2005 -- Brian Rohrbacher Reliable Internet, LLC www.reliableinter.net Cell 269-838-8338 "Caught up in the Air" 1 Thess. 4:17 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/198 - Release Date: 12/12/2005 -- Brian Rohrbacher Reliable Internet, LLC www.reliableinter.net Cell 269-838-8338 "Caught up in the Air" 1 Thess. 4:17 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Canopy buying group prices
You get Trango cheaper? Prices please! Travis Johnson wrote: Wow that's more than I pay for the Trango 900mhz and it has dual polarity integrated antennas. ;) Travis Microserv Ron Wallace wrote: My Man. Brian, Excellent. Original message Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:53:40 -0500 From: Brian Rohrbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [WISPA] Canopy buying group prices To: WISPA General List Read it and weep "nay sayers" ;-) I found a VAR to work with. Prices for canopy 900. Connectorized- $262.60 Integrated- $328.7 All details are being posted to "Principal Members List". You must be a paid WISPA member to take advantage of the offer. I'd like to get an estimate of volume to the VAR. Pay up to WISPA and hit me offlist to how many you think you could use a month (you won't be committed to this, it's just for a general idea) Brian Ron Wallace wrote: Go for it Brian, Doesn't matter what others think, if we can save some money, good. Ron Wallace Original message Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:58:47 -0500 From: Brian Rohrbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices To: WISPA General List I have never done a group buy, but this is how I would approach it. First step. Principal Members only. You want a deal, fork over 200 some bucks and support the industry. Second step. Find 10 people who want ten units. (500 if possible, but prolly 100 pack to start) Third step. Go to moto website and look up resellers. fourth step. Call resellers and get quote. Say "look here. I have a buying group. I want 100 SMs, charged to 10 credit cards and shipped to 10 addresses. Send me a quote to email" Forward quote to next reseller and go from there. Whoever is cheaper wins. If they want the business of the buying group, they better figure out how to cut a deal. Am I acting like a know it all Charles? Would all the resellers say screw you if I approached like this? If all resellers say we can't do this.then I would (big trust here) run all cards through paypal and pay with one lump sum and re ship from here. Now add the 1.9% for paypal and add more for extra shippingdon't know what that would be, but it would be figured before hand. I just made all that up, but it seems like it would work. Only question is how warranty is handled. By MAC addy or by who bought the radio. Someone let me know if my approach is out of line. Never done this and might be reinventing the wheel (I hope it rolls) Brian A. Huppenthal wrote: Charles, I know you don't support the idea of group buys. Enough said. Fact is I've done group buys with high-end equipment before - it wasn't difficult at all. If you are comparing a public distributor to a closed membership buying club, you aren't comparing apples to apples. I sure as hell don't want to create a distributor organization. However, as our discussion continues, I might be willing to send Jim, George, Brian or whomever offers a group buy $2600 for 10 Canopy SMs if the buy is 100 units and we're all lined up. I don't need support, training, stocking, any of the services that distributors offer. Frankly, I don't need my distributor under cutting me to sell direct to customers. You have your pros and cons for going to distributors for *everything*. Certainly what's being discussed here isn't pretending to create a distributor that has *everything*.. Frankly I think the board with the exception of myself, uniformly doesn't support group buys. The buyers create the relatonship for the purpose of the buy, it ends when the product is delivered. Charles Wu wrote: You would think it would work that way, but Volume Buying ends up eating the organization and the organization becomes caught up in being a volume club. We all know that there's more to a WISP than just putting up an AP and getting a T1 line Having run both a WISP and a distribution company, I can personally attest to the fact that there's more to distribution (which is what your proposing) than breaking up a 500 pack amongst WISP Have you considered all the risks / implications that the buying group faces? For starters, there's the question of payment -- given that the buying group has no / limited credit, chances are that any vendor will require cash up front for the purchase So, for example, say Motorola Canopy is the product WISPA chooses Then WISPA / Buying Group needs to come up w/ $100k to purchase that 500 pack (at say, $200 / unit for simplicity's sake) Then, WISPA / Buying Group needs to come up w/ a warehouse to store stuff Then, WISPA / Buying Group needs to come up w/ a shipper/logistics guy to repackage / ship stuff On top of that, chances are, 50% of the WISPs who committed to purc
RE: [WISPA] Canopy buying group prices
Travis has gotta be full of it! Distributors for Trango previously, when buying in 100 packs, never got prices better than 420... From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian RohrbacherSent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 11:08 AMTo: WISPA General ListSubject: Re: [WISPA] Canopy buying group prices You get Trango cheaper? Prices please!Travis Johnson wrote: Wow that's more than I pay for the Trango 900mhz and it has dual polarity integrated antennas. ;)TravisMicroservRon Wallace wrote: My Man. Brian, Excellent. Original message Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:53:40 -0500 From: Brian Rohrbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [WISPA] Canopy buying group prices To: WISPA General List Read it and weep "nay sayers" ;-) I found a VAR to work with. Prices for canopy 900. Connectorized- $262.60 Integrated- $328.7 All details are being posted to "Principal Members List". You must be a paid WISPA member to take advantage of the offer. I'd like to get an estimate of volume to the VAR. Pay up to WISPA and hit me offlist to how many you think you could use a month (you won't be committed to this, it's just for a general idea) Brian Ron Wallace wrote: Go for it Brian, Doesn't matter what others think, if we can save some money, good. Ron Wallace Original message Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:58:47 -0500 From: Brian Rohrbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices To: WISPA General List I have never done a group buy, but this is how I would approach it. First step. Principal Members only. You want a deal, fork over 200 some bucks and support the industry. Second step. Find 10 people who want ten units. (500 if possible, but prolly 100 pack to start) Third step. Go to moto website and look up resellers. fourth step. Call resellers and get quote. Say "look here. I have a buying group. I want 100 SMs, charged to 10 credit cards and shipped to 10 addresses. Send me a quote to email" Forward quote to next reseller and go from there. Whoever is cheaper wins. If they want the business of the buying group, they better figure out how to cut a deal. Am I acting like a know it all Charles? Would all the resellers say screw you if I approached like this? If all resellers say we can't do this.then I would (big trust here) run all cards through paypal and pay with one lump sum and re ship from here. Now add the 1.9% for paypal and add more for extra shippingdon't know what that would be, but it would be figured before hand. I just made all that up, but it seems like it would work. Only question is how warranty is handled. By MAC addy or by who bought the radio. Someone let me know if my approach is out of line. Never done this and might be reinventing the wheel (I hope it rolls) Brian A. Huppenthal wrote: Charles, I know you don't support the idea of group buys. Enough said. Fact is I've done group buys with high-end equipment before - it wasn't difficult at all. If you are comparing a public distributor to a closed membership buying club, you aren't comparing apples to apples. I sure as hell don't want to create a distributor organization. However, as our discussion continues, I might be willing to send Jim, George, Brian or whomever offers a group buy $2600 for 10 Canopy SMs if the buy is 100 units and we're all lined up. I don't need support, training, stocking, any of the services that distributors offer. Frankly, I don't need my distributor under cutting me to sell direct to customers. You have your pros and cons for going to distributors for *everything*. Certainly what's being discussed here isn't pretending to create a distributor that has *everything*.. Frankly I think the board with the exception of myself, uniformly doesn't support group buys. The buyers create the relatonship for the purpose of the buy, it ends when the product is delivered. Charles Wu wrote: You would think it would work that way, but Volume Buying ends up eating the organization and the organization becomes caught up in being a volume club. We all know that there's more to a WISP than just putting up an AP and getting a T1 line Having run both a WISP and a distribution company, I can personally attest to the fact that there's more to distribution (which is what your proposing) than breaking up a 500 pack amongst WISP Have you considered all the risks / implications that the buying group faces? For starters, there's the question of payment -- given that the buying group has no / limited credit, chances are that any vendor will require cash up front for the purchase So, for example, say Motorola Canopy is the product WISPA chooses Then WISPA / Buying Group needs to come up w/ $100k to purch
Re: [WISPA] Canopy buying group prices
OUCH! I have bought singles that cheap from doubleradius Mac Dearman Maximum Access, LLC. www.inetsouth.com www.radioresponse.org (Katrina relief efforts) 318-728-8600 - Rayville 318-728-9600 318-376-2562 - cell Rick Smith wrote: Travis has gotta be full of it! Distributors for Trango previously, when buying in 100 packs, never got prices better than 420... *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Brian Rohrbacher *Sent:* Saturday, December 17, 2005 11:08 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Canopy buying group prices You get Trango cheaper? Prices please! Travis Johnson wrote: Wow that's more than I pay for the Trango 900mhz and it has dual polarity integrated antennas. ;) Travis Microserv Ron Wallace wrote: My Man. Brian, Excellent. Original message Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:53:40 -0500 From: Brian Rohrbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [WISPA] Canopy buying group prices To: WISPA General List Read it and weep "nay sayers" ;-) I found a VAR to work with. Prices for canopy 900. Connectorized- $262.60 Integrated- $328.7 All details are being posted to "Principal Members List". You must be a paid WISPA member to take advantage of the offer. I'd like to get an estimate of volume to the VAR. Pay up to WISPA and hit me offlist to how many you think you could use a month (you won't be committed to this, it's just for a general idea) Brian Ron Wallace wrote: Go for it Brian, Doesn't matter what others think, if we can save some money, good. Ron Wallace Original message Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:58:47 -0500 From: Brian Rohrbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices To: WISPA General List I have never done a group buy, but this is how I would approach it. First step. Principal Members only. You want a deal, fork over 200 some bucks and support the industry. Second step. Find 10 people who want ten units. (500 if possible, but prolly 100 pack to start) Third step. Go to moto website and look up resellers. fourth step. Call resellers and get quote. Say "look here. I have a buying group. I want 100 SMs, charged to 10 credit cards and shipped to 10 addresses. Send me a quote to email" Forward quote to next reseller and go from there. Whoever is cheaper wins. If they want the business of the buying group, they better figure out how to cut a deal. Am I acting like a know it all Charles? Would all the resellers say screw you if I approached like this? If all resellers say we can't do this.then I would (big trust here) run all cards through paypal and pay with one lump sum and re ship from here. Now add the 1.9% for paypal and add more for extra shippingdon't know what that would be, but it would be figured before hand. I just made all that up, but it seems like it would work. Only question is how warranty is handled. By MAC addy or by who bought the radio. Someone let me know if my approach is out of line. Never done this and might be reinventing the wheel (I hope it rolls) Brian A. Huppenthal wrote: Charles, I know you don't support the idea of group buys. Enough said. Fact is I've done group buys with high-end equipment before - it wasn't difficult at all. If you are comparing a public distributor to a closed membership buying club, you aren't comparing apples to apples. I sure as hell don't want to create a distributor organization. However, as our discussion continues, I might be willing to send Jim, George, Brian or whomever offers a group buy $2600 for 10 Canopy SMs if the buy is 100 units and we're all lined up. I don't need support, training, stocking, any of the services that distributors offer. Frankly, I don't need my distributor under cutting me to sell direct to customers. You have your pros and cons for going to distributors for *everything*. Certainly what's being discussed here isn't pretending to create a distributor that has *everything*.. Frankly I think the board with the exception of myself, uniformly doesn't support group buys. The buyers create the relatonship for the purpose of the buy, it ends when the product is delivered. Charles Wu wrote: You would think it would work that way, but Volume Buying ends up eating the organization and the organization becomes caught up in being a volume club. We all know that there's more to a WISP than just putting up an AP and getting a T1 line Having run both a WISP and a distribution company, I can personally attest to the fact that there's more to distribution (which is what your proposing) than breaking up a 500 pack amongst WISP Have you considered all the risks / implications that the buying group faces? For starters, there's the questio
Re: [WISPA] Canopy buying group prices
single was $405 at maple net. Mac Dearman wrote: OUCH! I have bought singles that cheap from doubleradius Mac Dearman Maximum Access, LLC. www.inetsouth.com www.radioresponse.org (Katrina relief efforts) 318-728-8600 - Rayville 318-728-9600 318-376-2562 - cell Rick Smith wrote: Travis has gotta be full of it! Distributors for Trango previously, when buying in 100 packs, never got prices better than 420... *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Brian Rohrbacher *Sent:* Saturday, December 17, 2005 11:08 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Canopy buying group prices You get Trango cheaper? Prices please! Travis Johnson wrote: Wow that's more than I pay for the Trango 900mhz and it has dual polarity integrated antennas. ;) Travis Microserv Ron Wallace wrote: My Man. Brian, Excellent. Original message Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:53:40 -0500 From: Brian Rohrbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [WISPA] Canopy buying group prices To: WISPA General List Read it and weep "nay sayers" ;-) I found a VAR to work with. Prices for canopy 900. Connectorized- $262.60 Integrated- $328.7 All details are being posted to "Principal Members List". You must be a paid WISPA member to take advantage of the offer. I'd like to get an estimate of volume to the VAR. Pay up to WISPA and hit me offlist to how many you think you could use a month (you won't be committed to this, it's just for a general idea) Brian Ron Wallace wrote: Go for it Brian, Doesn't matter what others think, if we can save some money, good. Ron Wallace Original message Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:58:47 -0500 From: Brian Rohrbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices To: WISPA General List I have never done a group buy, but this is how I would approach it. First step. Principal Members only. You want a deal, fork over 200 some bucks and support the industry. Second step. Find 10 people who want ten units. (500 if possible, but prolly 100 pack to start) Third step. Go to moto website and look up resellers. fourth step. Call resellers and get quote. Say "look here. I have a buying group. I want 100 SMs, charged to 10 credit cards and shipped to 10 addresses. Send me a quote to email" Forward quote to next reseller and go from there. Whoever is cheaper wins. If they want the business of the buying group, they better figure out how to cut a deal. Am I acting like a know it all Charles? Would all the resellers say screw you if I approached like this? If all resellers say we can't do this.then I would (big trust here) run all cards through paypal and pay with one lump sum and re ship from here. Now add the 1.9% for paypal and add more for extra shippingdon't know what that would be, but it would be figured before hand. I just made all that up, but it seems like it would work. Only question is how warranty is handled. By MAC addy or by who bought the radio. Someone let me know if my approach is out of line. Never done this and might be reinventing the wheel (I hope it rolls) Brian A. Huppenthal wrote: Charles, I know you don't support the idea of group buys. Enough said. Fact is I've done group buys with high-end equipment before - it wasn't difficult at all. If you are comparing a public distributor to a closed membership buying club, you aren't comparing apples to apples. I sure as hell don't want to create a distributor organization. However, as our discussion continues, I might be willing to send Jim, George, Brian or whomever offers a group buy $2600 for 10 Canopy SMs if the buy is 100 units and we're all lined up. I don't need support, training, stocking, any of the services that distributors offer. Frankly, I don't need my distributor under cutting me to sell direct to customers. You have your pros and cons for going to distributors for *everything*. Certainly what's being discussed here isn't pretending to create a distributor that has *everything*.. Frankly I think the board with the exception of myself, uniformly doesn't support group buys. The buyers create the relatonship for the purpose of the buy, it ends when the product is delivered. Charles Wu wrote: You would think it would work that way, but Volume Buying ends up eating the organization and the organization becomes caught up in being a volume club. We all know that there's more to a WISP than just putting up an AP and getting a T1 line Having run both a WISP and a distribution company, I can personally attest to the fact that there's more to distribution (which is what your proposing) than breaking up a 500 pack amongst WISP Have you considered all the risks / implications that the buying group faces? For starter
RE: [WISPA] Canopy buying group prices
Wow, OK, I stand corrected... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 2:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Canopy buying group prices single was $405 at maple net. Mac Dearman wrote: > OUCH! I have bought singles that cheap from doubleradius > > Mac Dearman > Maximum Access, LLC. > www.inetsouth.com > www.radioresponse.org (Katrina relief efforts) 318-728-8600 - Rayville > 318-728-9600 > 318-376-2562 - cell > > > > > Rick Smith wrote: > >> >> Travis has gotta be full of it! >> >> Distributors for Trango previously, when buying in 100 packs, never >> got prices better than 420... >> >> - >> --- >> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Brian Rohrbacher >> *Sent:* Saturday, December 17, 2005 11:08 AM >> *To:* WISPA General List >> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Canopy buying group prices >> >> You get Trango cheaper? Prices please! >> >> Travis Johnson wrote: >> >>> Wow that's more than I pay for the Trango 900mhz and it has dual >>> polarity integrated antennas. ;) >>> >>> Travis >>> Microserv >>> >>> Ron Wallace wrote: >>> My Man. Brian, Excellent. Original message > Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:53:40 -0500 > From: Brian Rohrbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [WISPA] > Canopy buying group prices To: WISPA General List > > > Read it and weep "nay sayers" ;-) > > I found a VAR to work with. > > Prices for canopy 900. > > Connectorized- $262.60 > Integrated- $328.7 > > All details are being posted to "Principal Members List". > You must be a paid WISPA member to take advantage of the offer. > I'd like to get an estimate of volume to the VAR. Pay up to > WISPA and hit me offlist to how many you think you could use a > month (you won't be committed to this, it's just for a general > idea) > > Brian > > Ron Wallace wrote: > > Go for it Brian, Doesn't matter what others think, if we can save > some money, good. > > Ron Wallace > > Original message > > > Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:58:47 -0500 > From: Brian Rohrbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: > [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices To: WISPA General List > > > I have never done a group buy, but this is how I would approach it. > > First step. Principal Members only. You want a deal, fork over > 200 some bucks and support the industry. > Second step. Find 10 people who want ten units. (500 if > possible, > > but > > > prolly 100 pack to start) > Third step. Go to moto website and look up resellers. > fourth step. Call resellers and get quote. Say "look here. I > have a buying group. I want 100 SMs, charged to 10 credit cards > and shipped > > to > > > 10 addresses. Send me a quote to email" Forward quote to next > > reseller > > > and go from there. Whoever is cheaper wins. If they want the > > business > > > of the buying group, they better figure out how to cut a deal. Am > I acting like a know it all Charles? Would all the resellers say > screw you if I approached like this? > If all resellers say we can't do this.then I would (big trust > > here) > > > run all cards through paypal and pay with one lump sum and re ship > > from > > > here. Now add the 1.9% for paypal and add more for extra > shippingdon't know what that would be, but it would be figured > before hand. > > I just made all that up, but it seems like it would work. Only > > question > > > is how warranty is handled. By MAC addy or by who bought the radio. > > Someone let me know if my approach is out of line. Never done > this > > and > > > might be reinventing the wheel (I hope it rolls) > > Brian > > A. Huppenthal wrote: > > > Charles, > > I know you don't support the idea of group buys. Enough said. Fact > > is > > > I've done group buys with high-end equipment before - it wasn't > difficult at all. If you are comparing a public distributor to a > closed membership buying club, you aren't comparing apples to > > apples. > > > I sure as hell don't want to create a distributor organization. > > However, as our discussion continues, I might be willing to send > > Jim, > > > George, Brian or whomever offers a group buy $2600 for 10 Canopy > SMs if the buy is 100 units and we're all lined up. I don't need > > support, >
Re: [WISPA] Canopy buying group prices
Hi, I just received my shipment of 900mhz units last week. I can tell you I paid much, much less than $420 but I am buying 250 units at a time. ;) Travis Microserv Rick Smith wrote: Travis has gotta be full of it! Distributors for Trango previously, when buying in 100 packs, never got prices better than 420... From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 11:08 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Canopy buying group prices You get Trango cheaper? Prices please! Travis Johnson wrote: Wow that's more than I pay for the Trango 900mhz and it has dual polarity integrated antennas. ;) Travis Microserv Ron Wallace wrote: My Man. Brian, Excellent. Original message Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:53:40 -0500 From: Brian Rohrbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [WISPA] Canopy buying group prices To: WISPA General List Read it and weep "nay sayers" ;-) I found a VAR to work with. Prices for canopy 900. Connectorized- $262.60 Integrated- $328.7 All details are being posted to "Principal Members List". You must be a paid WISPA member to take advantage of the offer. I'd like to get an estimate of volume to the VAR. Pay up to WISPA and hit me offlist to how many you think you could use a month (you won't be committed to this, it's just for a general idea) Brian Ron Wallace wrote: Go for it Brian, Doesn't matter what others think, if we can save some money, good. Ron Wallace Original message Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:58:47 -0500 From: Brian Rohrbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices To: WISPA General List I have never done a group buy, but this is how I would approach it. First step. Principal Members only. You want a deal, fork over 200 some bucks and support the industry. Second step. Find 10 people who want ten units. (500 if possible, but prolly 100 pack to start) Third step. Go to moto website and look up resellers. fourth step. Call resellers and get quote. Say "look here. I have a buying group. I want 100 SMs, charged to 10 credit cards and shipped to 10 addresses. Send me a quote to email" Forward quote to next reseller and go from there. Whoever is cheaper wins. If they want the business of the buying group, they better figure out how to cut a deal. Am I acting like a know it all Charles? Would all the resellers say screw you if I approached like this? If all resellers say we can't do this.then I would (big trust here) run all cards through paypal and pay with one lump sum and re ship from here. Now add the 1.9% for paypal and add more for extra shippingdon't know what that would be, but it would be figured before hand. I just made all that up, but it seems like it would work. Only question is how warranty is handled. By MAC addy or by who bought the radio. Someone let me know if my approach is out of line. Never done this and might be reinventing the wheel (I hope it rolls) Brian A. Huppenthal wrote: Charles, I know you don't support the idea of group buys. Enough said. Fact is I've done group buys with high-end equipment before - it wasn't difficult at all. If you are comparing a public distributor to a closed membership buying club, you aren't comparing apples to apples. I sure as hell don't want to create a distributor organization. However, as our discussion continues, I might be willing to send Jim, George, Brian or whomever offers a group buy $2600 for 10 Canopy SMs if the buy is 100 units and we're all lined up. I don't need support, training, stocking, any of the services that distributors offer. Frankly, I don't need my distributor under cutting me to sell direct to customers. You have your pros and cons for going to distributors for *everything*. Certainly what's being discussed here isn't pretending to create a distributor that has *everything*.. Frankly I think the board with the exception of myself, uniformly doesn't support group buys. The buyers create the relatonship for the purpose of the buy, it ends when the product is delivered. Charles Wu wrote: You would think it would work that way, but Volume Buying ends up eating the organization and the organization becomes caught up in being a volume club. We all know that there's more to a WISP than just putting up an AP and getting a T1 line Having run both a WISP and a distribution company, I can personally attest to the fact that there's more to distribution (which is what your proposing) than breaking up a 500 pack amongst WISP Have you considered all the risks / implications that the buying group faces? For starters, there's the question of payment -- given that the
Re: [WISPA] Canopy buying group prices
how much will you sell them for? Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, I just received my shipment of 900mhz units last week. I can tell you I paid much, much less than $420 but I am buying 250 units at a time. ;) Travis Microserv Rick Smith wrote: Travis has gotta be full of it! Distributors for Trango previously, when buying in 100 packs, never got prices better than 420... From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 11:08 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Canopy buying group prices You get Trango cheaper? Prices please! Travis Johnson wrote: Wow that's more than I pay for the Trango 900mhz and it has dual polarity integrated antennas. ;) Travis Microserv Ron Wallace wrote: My Man. Brian, Excellent. Original message Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:53:40 -0500 From: Brian Rohrbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [WISPA] Canopy buying group prices To: WISPA General List Read it and weep "nay sayers" ;-) I found a VAR to work with. Prices for canopy 900. Connectorized- $262.60 Integrated- $328.7 All details are being posted to "Principal Members List". You must be a paid WISPA member to take advantage of the offer. I'd like to get an estimate of volume to the VAR. Pay up to WISPA and hit me offlist to how many you think you could use a month (you won't be committed to this, it's just for a general idea) Brian Ron Wallace wrote: Go for it Brian, Doesn't matter what others think, if we can save some money, good. Ron Wallace Original message Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:58:47 -0500 From: Brian Rohrbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices To: WISPA General List I have never done a group buy, but this is how I would approach it. First step. Principal Members only. You want a deal, fork over 200 some bucks and support the industry. Second step. Find 10 people who want ten units. (500 if possible, but prolly 100 pack to start) Third step. Go to moto website and look up resellers. fourth step. Call resellers and get quote. Say "look here. I have a buying group. I want 100 SMs, charged to 10 credit cards and shipped to 10 addresses. Send me a quote to email" Forward quote to next reseller and go from there. Whoever is cheaper wins. If they want the business of the buying group, they better figure out how to cut a deal. Am I acting like a know it all Charles? Would all the resellers say screw you if I approached like this? If all resellers say we can't do this.then I would (big trust here) run all cards through paypal and pay with one lump sum and re ship from here. Now add the 1.9% for paypal and add more for extra shippingdon't know what that would be, but it would be figured before hand. I just made all that up, but it seems like it would work. Only question is how warranty is handled. By MAC addy or by who bought the radio. Someone let me know if my approach is out of line. Never done this and might be reinventing the wheel (I hope it rolls) Brian A. Huppenthal wrote: Charles, I know you don't support the idea of group buys. Enough said. Fact is I've done group buys with high-end equipment before - it wasn't difficult at all. If you are comparing a public distributor to a closed membership buying club, you aren't comparing apples to apples. I sure as hell don't want to create a distributor organization. However, as our discussion continues, I might be willing to send Jim, George, Brian or whomever offers a group buy $2600 for 10 Canopy SMs if the buy is 100 units and we're all lined up. I don't need support, training, stocking, any of the services that distributors offer. Frankly, I don't need my distributor under cutting me to sell direct to customers. You have your pros and cons for going to distributors for *everything*. Certainly what's being discussed here isn't pretending to create a distributor that has *everything*.. Frankly I think the board with the exception of myself, uniformly doesn't support group buys. The buyers create the relatonship for the purpose of the buy, it ends when the product is delivered. Charles Wu wrote: You would think it would work that way, but Volume Buying ends up eating the organization and the organization becomes caught up in being a volume club. We all know that there's more to a WISP than just putting up an AP and getting a T1 line Having run both a WISP and a distribution company, I can personally attest to the fact that there's more to distribution (which is what your proposing) than breaking up a 500 pack amongst WISP Have you considered all the risks / implica
Re: [WISPA] Canopy buying group prices
I don't sell product, and I can't sell any of these as they are leased. Leasing is the only way to make a WISP competitive and grow. ;) Travis Microserv Brian Rohrbacher wrote: how much will you sell them for? Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, I just received my shipment of 900mhz units last week. I can tell you I paid much, much less than $420 but I am buying 250 units at a time. ;) Travis Microserv Rick Smith wrote: Travis has gotta be full of it! Distributors for Trango previously, when buying in 100 packs, never got prices better than 420... From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 11:08 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Canopy buying group prices You get Trango cheaper? Prices please! Travis Johnson wrote: Wow that's more than I pay for the Trango 900mhz and it has dual polarity integrated antennas. ;) Travis Microserv Ron Wallace wrote: My Man. Brian, Excellent. Original message Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:53:40 -0500 From: Brian Rohrbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [WISPA] Canopy buying group prices To: WISPA General List Read it and weep "nay sayers" ;-) I found a VAR to work with. Prices for canopy 900. Connectorized- $262.60 Integrated- $328.7 All details are being posted to "Principal Members List". You must be a paid WISPA member to take advantage of the offer. I'd like to get an estimate of volume to the VAR. Pay up to WISPA and hit me offlist to how many you think you could use a month (you won't be committed to this, it's just for a general idea) Brian Ron Wallace wrote: Go for it Brian, Doesn't matter what others think, if we can save some money, good. Ron Wallace Original message Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:58:47 -0500 From: Brian Rohrbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices To: WISPA General List I have never done a group buy, but this is how I would approach it. First step. Principal Members only. You want a deal, fork over 200 some bucks and support the industry. Second step. Find 10 people who want ten units. (500 if possible, but prolly 100 pack to start) Third step. Go to moto website and look up resellers. fourth step. Call resellers and get quote. Say "look here. I have a buying group. I want 100 SMs, charged to 10 credit cards and shipped to 10 addresses. Send me a quote to email" Forward quote to next reseller and go from there. Whoever is cheaper wins. If they want the business of the buying group, they better figure out how to cut a deal. Am I acting like a know it all Charles? Would all the resellers say screw you if I approached like this? If all resellers say we can't do this.then I would (big trust here) run all cards through paypal and pay with one lump sum and re ship from here. Now add the 1.9% for paypal and add more for extra shippingdon't know what that would be, but it would be figured before hand. I just made all that up, but it seems like it would work. Only question is how warranty is handled. By MAC addy or by who bought the radio. Someone let me know if my approach is out of line. Never done this and might be reinventing the wheel (I hope it rolls) Brian A. Huppenthal wrote: Charles, I know you don't support the idea of group buys. Enough said. Fact is I've done group buys with high-end equipment before - it wasn't difficult at all. If you are comparing a public distributor to a closed membership buying club, you aren't comparing apples to apples. I sure as hell don't want to create a distributor organization. However, as our discussion continues, I might be willing to send Jim, George, Brian or whomever offers a group buy $2600 for 10 Canopy SMs if the buy is 100 units and we're all lined up. I don't need support, training, stocking, any of the services that distributors offer. Frankly, I don't need my distributor under cutting me to sell direct to customers. You have your pros and cons for going to distributors for *everything*. Certainly what's being discussed here isn't pretending to create a distributor that has *everything*.. Frankly I think the board with the exception of myself, uniformly doesn't support group buys. The buyers create the relatonship for the purpose of the buy, it ends when the product is delivered. Charles Wu wrote: You would think it would work that way, but Volume Buying ends up eating the organization and the organization becomes caught up in being a volume club. We all know that there's more to a WISP than just putting up an AP and getting a T1 line
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Are you avoiding telling us the price?? Can you tell us? Post it to the paid list maybe (another carrot for those why don't pay) that is, if you are paid up. :) Travis Johnson wrote: I don't sell product, and I can't sell any of these as they are leased. Leasing is the only way to make a WISP competitive and grow. ;) Travis Microserv Brian Rohrbacher wrote: how much will you sell them for? Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, I just received my shipment of 900mhz units last week. I can tell you I paid much, much less than $420 but I am buying 250 units at a time. ;) Travis Microserv Rick Smith wrote: Travis has gotta be full of it! Distributors for Trango previously, when buying in 100 packs, never got prices better than 420... From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 11:08 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Canopy buying group prices You get Trango cheaper? Prices please! Travis Johnson wrote: Wow that's more than I pay for the Trango 900mhz and it has dual polarity integrated antennas. ;) Travis Microserv Ron Wallace wrote: My Man. Brian, Excellent. Original message Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:53:40 -0500 From: Brian Rohrbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [WISPA] Canopy buying group prices To: WISPA General List Read it and weep "nay sayers" ;-) I found a VAR to work with. Prices for canopy 900. Connectorized- $262.60 Integrated- $328.7 All details are being posted to "Principal Members List". You must be a paid WISPA member to take advantage of the offer. I'd like to get an estimate of volume to the VAR. Pay up to WISPA and hit me offlist to how many you think you could use a month (you won't be committed to this, it's just for a general idea) Brian Ron Wallace wrote: Go for it Brian, Doesn't matter what others think, if we can save some money, good. Ron Wallace Original message Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:58:47 -0500 From: Brian Rohrbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices To: WISPA General List I have never done a group buy, but this is how I would approach it. First step. Principal Members only. You want a deal, fork over 200 some bucks and support the industry. Second step. Find 10 people who want ten units. (500 if possible, but prolly 100 pack to start) Third step. Go to moto website and look up resellers. fourth step. Call resellers and get quote. Say "look here. I have a buying group. I want 100 SMs, charged to 10 credit cards and shipped to 10 addresses. Send me a quote to email" Forward quote to next reseller and go from there. Whoever is cheaper wins. If they want the business of the buying group, they better figure out how to cut a deal. Am I acting like a know it all Charles? Would all the resellers say screw you if I approached like this? If all resellers say we can't do this.then I would (big trust here) run all cards through paypal and pay with one lump sum and re ship from here. Now add the 1.9% for paypal and add more for extra shippingdon't know what that would be, but it would be figured before hand. I just made all that up, but it seems like it would work. Only question is how warranty is handled. By MAC addy or by who bought the radio. Someone let me know if my approach is out of line. Never done this and might be reinventing the wheel (I hope it rolls) Brian A. Huppenthal wrote: Charles, I know you don't support the idea of group buys. Enough said. Fact is I've done group buys with high-end equipment before - it wasn't difficult at all. If you are comparing a public distributor to a closed membership buying club, you aren't comparing apples to apples. I sure as hell don't want to create a distributor organization. However, as our discussion continues, I might be willing to send Jim, George, Brian or whomever offers a group buy $2600 for 10 Canopy SMs if the buy is 100 units and we're all lined up. I don't need support, training, stocking, any of the services that distributors offer. Frankly, I don't need my distributor under cutting me to sell direct to customers. You have your pros and cons for going to distributors for *everything*. Certainly what's being discussed here isn't pretending to create a distributor that has *everything*.. Frankly I think the board with the exception of myself, uniformly doesn't support group buys. The buyers create the relatonship for the purpose of the buy, it ends when the product is delivered. Charles Wu wrote:
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I hope you guys took that day off from doing installs. :) Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC 114 S. Walnut St. Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 3:05 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Emailing: IMG_1902.JPG, IMG_1904.JPG, IMG_1905.JPG Some days you just gotta love this business! sigh The grid is not in use (another reason not to use the dang things though!) but the others are. The conditions that did this have been hanging around for about three weeks now. The ap with the square antenna on it had really low signal levels at the customers, I changed it out anyway since that's what I was up there for. I'm guessing that it was mostly the frost that messed it up though. laters, marlon -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
