Re: [WISPA] 900b mhz omni

[Anthony Morin]

I'll be in the market for one of these too.  I've heard that Pac Wireless makes a good one.  Anyone know of other high quality 900MHz omni in H-pol?  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Anybody know where i can find an H-pol 900 mhz omni w/ higer gain than 9Db?thanks, chris-- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/  Velocity Wireless
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[WISPA] 900b mhz omni

[ccooper]

Anybody know where i can find an H-pol 900 mhz omni w/ higer gain than 9Db?
thanks, 
chris
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RE: [WISPA] 3 ft Dual Pol antennas

[dustin jurman]

Next time someone goes up I'll have them take some pictures.

Dustin Jurman
President
Rapid Systems Corporation
1211 N. Westshore Blvd
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Charles Wu
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 2:11 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] 3 ft Dual Pol antennas

>it has the Chester cheese doodle mount

Lol...would you mind posting a pic of what such a mount looks like?

-Charles

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Re: [WISPA] USF tax changes?

[Jeromie Reeves]

I know my stand on this: Evil Evil Evil

Jeromie

Blair Davis wrote:


Does WISPA have a stand on this?

http://techrepublic.com.com/2100-1035-5959140.html?tag=nl.e550

As one who has built my network without any public money, I have no 
interest in collecting special taxes.  I have more than enough 
paperwork now...


I also don't want my competitors to get government money to build 
their networks.  But locally, I have found out that they are getting 
government grants to expand into my area.  Having seen their install 
rates, monthly fees and tower provisioning costs, they would not be 
making any money if they did not have the government footing the bill.


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[WISPA] USF tax changes?

[Blair Davis]

Does WISPA have a stand on this?

http://techrepublic.com.com/2100-1035-5959140.html?tag=nl.e550

As one who has built my network without any public money, I have no 
interest in collecting special taxes.  I have more than enough paperwork 
now...


I also don't want my competitors to get government money to build their 
networks.  But locally, I have found out that they are getting 
government grants to expand into my area.  Having seen their install 
rates, monthly fees and tower provisioning costs, they would not be 
making any money if they did not have the government footing the bill.


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[WISPA] Fwd: Press Release - PePLink enhances wireless coverage with 900MHz frequency operation

[Dylan Oliver]

PepLink is also promising 2.4 GHz CPE with WPA2. Far as 802.11 goes, I
think they're on the right track with this and 900 MHz gear based on
the Ubiquiti card.-- Forwarded message --From: Maggie Cheng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Jan 25, 2006 5:14 AM
Subject: Press Release - PePLink enhances wireless coverage with 900MHz frequency operationTo: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



For immediate releaseHong Kong, Jan 25, 2006 – PePLink, a leader in manufacturing and marketing  broadband
devices, integrated solutions and embedded platforms, today introduced
a municipal Wi-Fi networking solution with frequency operation at
900MHz and transmit power at 700mW to highly enhance the wireless
coverage. The solution consists of a multi-SSID advanced access point –
PePLink PolePoint UltraPower 9 and a secure Wi-Fi Customer Premise
Equipment (CPE) - PePLink Surf UltraPower 9.
 
PePLink's
PolePoint UltraPower 9 and Surf UltraPower 9 offer incredible range
advantage over 802.11 solutions at 2.4 or 5GHz in obstructive
environment and at the same time support the feature sets of 802.11
standards. The devices are equipped with the SuperRange 9 – from
Ubiquiti Networks.
 
"By
supporting 900MHz with 700mW transmit power, PolePoint UltraPower 9 and
Surf UltraPower 9 can help the WISP to implement a citywide wireless
network where obstacles like tall buildings weaken the signal strength
while using standard 802.11 frequency operation," said Alex Chan,
Managing Director of PePLink. "The initial investment and ownership
cost can be dramatically reduced by deploying much fewer numbers of
access points in the field."
 
Other
than 900MHz, the PePLink PolePoint and Surf series also operates at
802.11a/b/g frequency. Featuring multiple SSID, the PePLink PolePoint
can masquerade up to 16 access points on a single platform. Each access
point can be configured with its own security policy (WEP, WPA-PSK,
WPA-Enterprise, 802.1x with Dynamic WEP) and authentication mechanism.
This enables the separation of Virtual LAN (VLAN) based on security and
performance requirements.
 
The
PePLink Surf connects wireless WAN to Ethernet LAN. It provides 802.1x
supplicant services as a network termination, and delivers a clear
demarcation point to the end user. With the secure authentication and
data encryption, WISP can gain competitive advantage by offering
industry standard for secure access. 
 
For more information on PePLink PolePoint UltraPower 9 and Surf UltraPower 9, please visit 
http://www.peplink.com.
 
About PePLink
PePLink
is a leader in manufacturing and marketing broadband devices,
integrated solutions and embedded platforms headquartered in Hong Kong. Embracing an open source philosophy that assures quality, innovation and superior customer relations, 
PePLink
has developed a new generation of Linux-powered devices to bring
innovative features to the market. PePLink's products have been
deployed in various leading Service Providers, Small and Medium
Businesses, System Builders and Tech-savvy Users around the world. 
 
Established
by one of the most experienced and respected network integration house
in Asia Pacific, PePLink has been creating technology solutions for
over a decade. Additional information about PePLink and its products is
available at http://www.peplink.com.



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Re: [WISPA] FW: Call your Senators: Stop SB245

[John Thomas]

Amen, Tom, this is a excellent snapshot. I am still concerned about what 
is going to happen in June or July when the ILECs don't have to share 
anymore...


John



Tom DeReggi wrote:


Charles,
 
> below their cost
 
This is the key phrase. Do you really think CLECs have asked ILECs to 
wholeslae their networks under cost? Definately not.
If they are, the ILEC is choosing to sell services below their cost 
retail as well. And the CLECs are not asking for anything more than 
the ILEC is already doing for themselves, if they were to seperate 
Circuit versus Internet/backbone/value added features. 
 
The truth is the only thing an ILEC is being asked today, is to sell 
service at less than retail, so profit can be made on the value and 
additional components that they provide. And ILECs are being asked to 
sell to providers that are viewed as competitors. 
 
This is where the ILEC mentality has been flawed and is greatly wrong. 
A CLEC should not be viewed as a Competitor. The CLEC should be viewed 
as a Partner.  If a relationship is done properly, Both the ILEC and 
the CLEC would get their fair share out of the deal. The problem is 
that ILECs are greedy, and want the whole pie for themselves.  I'd 
argue that its not the ILECs thats are getting invaded but the ISPs 
that are getting invaded. The ILECs have basically said, although we 
are a circuit provider, we now also want to be the content and service 
provider ALSO, and steal that position away from all the many value 
add providers (ISPs and CLECs) out there.  ILECs try to change the 
rules. ILECs are the ones that broke the laws of Anti-Trust, unsing 
the advantage of one service (network  circuits) to leverage their 
advantage to take over other peoples businesses (value add services 
and Internet), forgetting that it was the public and monopoly 
protection that allowed the ILEC to grow to their size and wealth.
 
Everyone wants to be King of the world if they could be. But this 
country did away with aristocracy 200 years ago. 
 
So I'd answer your comment, as no problem I'd be glad to wholesale my 
network. I offer my peice, you offer yours, and we grow quicker 
togeather, offer better value togeather, and we all prosper. And I'd 
ahve no problem selling our services at a discounted rate, 
proportional to the value they provide. 
 
Would I agree to sell them broadband under cost? No. It is a 
misconception that Verizon is doing that today. Its the Verizons and 
Comcasts that are forcing the price down to unprofitable levels, that 
force providers to use 30 year ROI models to plan for success.
Under cutting $500 a month services to $300 services (like CLECs do), 
is not any where the same thing as Verizon and Comcast going to 
businesses and selling services for $19 a month, at their own free 
will under cost, with the purpose to extinguish competitors, and force 
eveyone to run out of money, because ILECs have monopoly protection 
and in most cases protection from the legislature and FCC based on the 
Billions of Americans that would be effected, if ILECs had financial 
problems.
 
There is absolutely nothing wrong with sharing networks, if there are 
provisions designed in to allow it to be safely shared.
The day a private investors says, I paid for my network 100% with my 
own money, and no protection, they have the right to say, I won't hare 
"MY" network.
 
The only providers I'm aware of in that position, are WISPs.  Its a 
compeltely different situation when things are turned around.
 
I'd be estatic to share my network with a Comcast or SBC, take 
advantage of their valuable expertise and marketing power. ONl;y thing 
is, in todays world it won't happen, they'll just pull a "Northpoint" 
deal.  Gather competitove confidential info, and backout.
 
Tom DeReggi

RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
 
 


- Original Message -
*From:* Charles Wu 
*To:* 'WISPA General List' 
*Sent:* Wednesday, January 18, 2006 12:08 AM
*Subject:* RE: [WISPA] FW: Call your Senators: Stop SB245

Just a thought here
 
Is more or less regulation on facilities based providers a good or

bad thing for WISPs (who are also facilities based providers)
Keep in mind, supporting regulation for SBC / Comcast / whoever
sets the precedent for regulation of our internal networks
 
Lets think of one possible scenario
 
It's 2016 and now WISPs have taken over (killed off SBC / Comcast)

-- guys like Scriv and Harnish and DeReggi have hundreds of
thousands (if not millions) of customers each, and WISPA is some
national force that has huge influence on capital
hill...now...what happens of a regulatory act gets passed forcing
WISPs to wholesale their networks to SBC / Comcast below their cost
 
just a thought
 
-Charles
 
 


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Re: [WISPA] TRANGO!!

[John Thomas]

You read my mind. If they even had 90 degree antennas it would be great

John

Blair Davis wrote:


That is too bad

Since my biggest tower has less than 30 users, putting 6 $1000 ap's on 
one tower just doesn't make sense


On the other hand, putting 3 AP's with 120deg antennas on a tower is 
something I can justify.  (just in case some one is listening)



Travis Johnson wrote:

No, they do not. I've asked for that exact thing since 2001 and 
original 5800 AP's. I've heard there may be something coming 
however... ;)


Travis
Microserv

Blair Davis wrote:

Anyone know if the Trango 5.8GHz ap's have an external antenna 
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[WISPA] WISP services needed in southwest IL

[Jeff Mabry]

WISPA:

 

I am in search of wireless service in the Cahokia and/or Murphysboro, IL
areas.  My sister company is in need of a temporary wireless connection
for video surveillance of their construction sites.  The Cahokia
project has begun and the Murphysboro project will begin the first of
March.  Each project is scheduled to last 3-4 weeks. 

 

Depending on the wireless system, CPE may not be needed,
just bandwidth and authentication.  We need up to a 512 k
connection.  Wireless Service will not be used for 24 hour streaming, just
video on demand.

 

Thank you,

 



Jeff Mabry

General Manager

SlingShot Wireless Communications

618.735.2411 x 144

618.735.2907 (fax)

618.534.6407 (mobile)

www.slingshotwireless.com

 



 






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Re: [WISPA] FM tower co-location

[Jenco Wireless]

I tried to run just 24V up on a big cable, then my components started
failing.  Had to switch back to 48V with a DC to DC converter (the
converters are awesome filters !!).



On 1/25/06, Rick Harnish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We just had to do a revamp on a cell tower that added a new client (7000
> watt FM station).  Our radio's were tower mounted in a fiberglass/poly box
> with 120v AC and outdoor ethernet running up to it.  We had to build a new
> metal enclosure, ran shielded ethernet in conduit and put ferrite beads
> around the power leads.  Still had a problem and ended up running fiber up
> the tower and put a RF isolator on the power leads.  Went with an aluminum
> fan filter (grounded to the box) and pulled the ethernet out of the box
> entirely.  We are now cohabitating nicely together although there were a few
> tense moments in the last month.
>
> Rick Harnish
> President
> OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
> 260-827-2482 Office
> 260-307-4000 Cell
> 260-918-4340 VoIP
> www.oibw.net
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of chris cooper
> Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 8:03 AM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: RE: [WISPA] FM tower co-location
>
> Isolate/shield everything.  Wrap your radios in mesh if they are up with
> the FM antennas.  Make sure there is a clear understanding of when you
> are able to climb vs. when the will agree to turn down signal.  You may
> not be able to climb until after midnight etc.
> Oh yeah- when your eyes start to feel like crinkly cellophane it may be
> time to get lower.
>
> chris
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Chadd Thompson
> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 9:06 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] FM tower co-location
>
> Curious if anyone here has co-located on an FM tower? If so care to
> share
> your experiences?
>
> Thanks,
> Chadd
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Re: [WISPA] FM tower co-location

[Jenco Wireless]

He he !!  As far as I know everything still works :-)




On 1/26/06, Kurt Fankhauser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Brad, hope you already had all the kids you want.
>
> Kurt Fankhauser
> WAVELINC
> 114 S. Walnut St.
> Bucyrus, OH 44820
> 419-562-6405
> www.wavelinc.com
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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Jenco Wireless
> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 9:31 PM
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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] FM tower co-location
>
> I have.  The station on the same tower as me is not a super high power
> station - I think they broadcast at 12,000 watts (we have one close
> that does 75,000 Watts) !!  The RF engineer for the station told me
> that 40' was safe for short exposure.  I have some gear closer to 12'
> away.  They are required to turn down the power if you are going to be
> close.  I don't want to ask them to do that too much (I am sure with
> the rent they pay they can dictate terms to the tower owners, if they
> are not the owners (not sure)).  I bought an RF radiation suit.
> Unless I am going to be very close for a long period (hours), I just
> work in the suit.  I also had a Narda RF monitor, until it had a 460'
> fall - oops.  The bottom line is 50-300 MHz is very dangerous for
> human exposure.  It will cook you like a microwave oven starting with
> your eyes and testicles.  Be careful 
>
>
>
> Brad Hagstrom
> Jenco Wireless
>
>
>
>
>
> On 1/24/06, Chadd Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Curious if anyone here has co-located on an FM tower? If so care to
> share
> > your experiences?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Chadd
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Re: [WISPA] FM tower co-location

[Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181]

Yeah.

It's, by far, my most troublesome site.

Not all the fault of the FM system I'm sure.  There are 3 or 4 competitors 
only a mile away.  And my antennas have to mount behind another tower etc. 
But the general noise there is so high I have to take my volt meter outside 
of the building in order to get an accurate reading.  I hate being up there!


I'd much rather have two other systems with no other users in the area than 
one like this.


laters,
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(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
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To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 6:06 PM
Subject: [WISPA] FM tower co-location



Curious if anyone here has co-located on an FM tower? If so care to share
your experiences?

Thanks,
Chadd
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Re: [WISPA] FM tower co-location

[Jeff Sullivan]

I have a 2.4g Cisco AP and a 5.8g MT backhaul link on a FM tower at 99.5mhz.

My gear is at 230' of a 300' tower. The FM array is 10 bays that is fed 
by 50k watts, and is only about 15' above my AP and BH links.

The Cisco is basemounted and the MT radio is on the tower at 230'.

No problems what-so-ever.

Jeff

Chadd Thompson wrote:

Curious if anyone here has co-located on an FM tower? If so care to share
your experiences?

Thanks,
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RE: [WISPA] FM tower co-location

[Rick Harnish]

We just had to do a revamp on a cell tower that added a new client (7000
watt FM station).  Our radio's were tower mounted in a fiberglass/poly box
with 120v AC and outdoor ethernet running up to it.  We had to build a new
metal enclosure, ran shielded ethernet in conduit and put ferrite beads
around the power leads.  Still had a problem and ended up running fiber up
the tower and put a RF isolator on the power leads.  Went with an aluminum
fan filter (grounded to the box) and pulled the ethernet out of the box
entirely.  We are now cohabitating nicely together although there were a few
tense moments in the last month.

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482 Office
260-307-4000 Cell
260-918-4340 VoIP
www.oibw.net
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  
 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of chris cooper
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 8:03 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] FM tower co-location

Isolate/shield everything.  Wrap your radios in mesh if they are up with
the FM antennas.  Make sure there is a clear understanding of when you
are able to climb vs. when the will agree to turn down signal.  You may
not be able to climb until after midnight etc.
Oh yeah- when your eyes start to feel like crinkly cellophane it may be
time to get lower.

chris

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Behalf Of Chadd Thompson
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 9:06 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] FM tower co-location

Curious if anyone here has co-located on an FM tower? If so care to
share
your experiences?

Thanks,
Chadd
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RE: [WISPA] FM tower co-location

[chris cooper]

Isolate/shield everything.  Wrap your radios in mesh if they are up with
the FM antennas.  Make sure there is a clear understanding of when you
are able to climb vs. when the will agree to turn down signal.  You may
not be able to climb until after midnight etc.
Oh yeah- when your eyes start to feel like crinkly cellophane it may be
time to get lower.

chris

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Subject: [WISPA] FM tower co-location

Curious if anyone here has co-located on an FM tower? If so care to
share
your experiences?

Thanks,
Chadd
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