Re: [WISPA] Muni wireless
At 02:43 AM 3/23/2006, you wrote: I am glad to hear this. I am coming to the MUM in Dallas. I have already registered actually. I think Mac, Rick and Matt are all coming also. I look forward to seeing you guys again. Thanks for the update on mesh for Mikrotik coming soon. Thanks John, also I hear that Allen Marsalis is coming! Here are the detailed descriptions of the Mesh Hotspot System (MHS) presentations: --- "Large Hotspot Systems, MESH, and Solar Powered RouterBOARDs", by Brian Vargyas (Concourse Communication) About the speaker: Brian has been in the wireless Internet business for more than seven years and has a degree in electrical engineering. He manages hotspot systems for Concourse Communications at major airports in the US and Canada (including Chicago O'Hare, Detroit, JFK, and a number of others). "Wireless roaming with WDS and MESH", by Uldis Cernevskis (MikroTik) About the speaker: Uldis has been working as a wireless support specialist at MikroTik for six years. He supports a number of customers that are installing wireless MESH systems. --- Just in today, I have an update on the MUM!!! Butch Evans will give a presenation on VPNs and selling VPN services to customers. --- Application of VPN Technology with Mikrotik by Butch Evans * PPtP vs IPSEC * Selling VPN to business customers * Using VPN to simplify network security About the speaker: Butch Evans (formerly of BPS Networks) has been an ISP since 1995. Butch used the Mikrotik RouterOS to build out a network that served several hundred high speed users. Mikrotik RouterOS was an essential part of the network design, serving as firewall, QOS, VPN concentrator, APs and backbone routers. Currently, Butch is working full time as a network consultant. Butch has developed a training seminar for Mikrotik's RouterOS, which is taught 3-4 times per year across the US. --- and details of another on bonding: --- Bonding, Load Balancing, and Failover with MikroTik Practical examples and configurations for: - multiple DSL lines - multiple Wireless interfaces - multiple VLANs and EoIP tunnels May 5th, 11AM - by MikroTik staff --- John www.mikrotik.com Cheers, Scriv John Tully wrote: Hello John, MikroTik is currently developing the biggest feature of mesh -- easy to install systems (no configuration required) that have a radio (or more) for local and a radio (or more) for backbone. This will enable WISP to compete better with the expensive Strix and other MESH systems. You will hear more about this at the MikroTik user meeting in Dallas - mum.mikrotik.com . John www.mikrotik.com At 06:16 PM 3/22/2006, you wrote: Munis are just your hometown wanting service just like residents, business and education. As soon as we learn this we will all benefit from it greatly. Public safety specifically is the killer application of muni broadband in my opinion. If we all learn how to sell this to our towns and service it correctly we will inevitably win in the end. Backhaul to munis who decide to go it alone is also an option. I would bet most if not all of them would pay for a service agreement on their networks also. Maybe they will pay you to build their network for them? Scriv Matt Liotta wrote: I personally don't much care for Muni wireless as I would rather the government stay out of the ISP business. With that being said, Rome, GA announced that GTS had won the the contract to install a wireless system for the city. See http://muniwireless.com/municipal/bids/1102/ for details on the announcement. What I thought the list might find interesting is that we (AirInfinite, now One Ring Networks) were included in GTS's bid and will now be providing backhaul for the wireless network. I believe this is an interesting approach for WISPs to take when dealing with munis that have an interest in wireless. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Muni wireless
Have you released any pricing for a 2 and 3 radio system? If I could add a word based on experience with more expensive systems- more control is better. An easy or auto install system needs to give the provider every option to inject control at every level. Lots of monitoring stats on both link and service side are great also. Thanks Chris >>Hello John, >> >>MikroTik is currently developing the biggest feature of mesh -- easy to >>install systems (no configuration required) that have a radio (or more) >>for local and a radio (or more) for backbone. This will enable WISP to >>compete better with the expensive Strix and other MESH systems. You will >>hear more about this at the MikroTik user meeting in Dallas - >>mum.mikrotik.com . >> >>John >>www.mikrotik.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Muni wireless
At 01:39 PM 3/23/2006, you wrote: Have you released any pricing for a 2 and 3 radio system? Hello Chris, You can current buy the RB112 for $99 list price -- one Ethernet and two mpci. The RB532 with the RB502 has four mpci and three Eth -- I guess the price is something like $185 list together. They will both be software upgradable. The examples you will see at the MUM do not have the no config support. This is in development now. John www.mikrotik.com If I could add a word based on experience with more expensive systems- more control is better. An easy or auto install system needs to give the provider every option to inject control at every level. Lots of monitoring stats on both link and service side are great also. Thanks Chris >>Hello John, >> >>MikroTik is currently developing the biggest feature of mesh -- easy to >>install systems (no configuration required) that have a radio (or more) >>for local and a radio (or more) for backbone. This will enable WISP to >>compete better with the expensive Strix and other MESH systems. You will >>hear more about this at the MikroTik user meeting in Dallas - >>mum.mikrotik.com . >> >>John >>www.mikrotik.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Commissioner Martin Keynote at TelecomNext
All, As quoted from the article; "Any provider who blocks access to the Internet is inviting customers to find another provider," Whitacre said in his keynote speech. "It's bad business." He then emphatically stated that AT&T would not block independent services, "nor will we degrade [Internet access]. Period, end of story." Also quoted from the article; "We've already demonstrated we'll take action if necessary," Martin said. Link to story; http://www.networkingpipeline.com/183701554?cid=rssfeed_pl_ntp and another story; http://news.com.com/The+next+broadband+battleground/2010-1034_3-6052980.html Of course in the very same keynote this is what Commissioner Martin had to say; "Martin told attendees at the TelecomNext show that telcos should be allowed to charge web sites whatever they want if those sites want adequate bandwidth." Full story link below; http://www.networkingpipeline.com/blog/archives/2006/03/fcc_chief_att_c.html Regards, Dawn --- --- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] licensed links
helps me, Marlon, as I'm now looking to provide a licensed link of 25Mbps or more to a regional TV network. Thanks. Mario Marlon K. Schafer wrote: www.microwavenetworks.com Call the main office. Talk to Brad Ingram ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Tell him his number came from Charlie Curothers (sp?) Their fastest system will do 155 megs but you can hook more than one into the same antenna via taps in the wave guide. Run each of those systems via a failover router type system and off you go, high speed, fully redundant etc. Hope that helps, marlon - Original Message - From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] high bandwidth long links 300-600Mbps On Apr 28, 2005, at 4:46 PM, G.Villarini wrote: What kind of bandwith? Gige? Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aeronetpr.com 787.767.7466 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 4:44 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] high bandwidth long links On Apr 28, 2005, at 4:41 PM, Charles Wu wrote: True; I'm making the assumption that you're in the business of providing connectivity - and that wireless (licensed or license-exempt) is just another tool in the box. That said, if you're irrational enough to stick with wireless, you can always follow Ken D's suggestion, and string a LONG LINE of 500' 60 GHz GigE links... Why do I have to be irrational? Show me the cost benefit analysis of trenching fiber vs. using wireless and we will see who is rational. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- [This e-mail was scanned for viruses by our AntiVirus Protection System] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] licensed links
Anyone have a suggestion for a really fine 5.x H Pol omni antenna? Thanks Mac Dearman Maximum Access, LLC. Authorized Barracuda Reseller MikroTik RouterOS Certified www.inetsouth.com www.mac-tel.us www.RadioResponse.org (Katrina Relief) Rayville, La. 318.728.8600 318.303.4228 318.303.4229 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Muni wireless
What happened to the RB512's ?? > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of John Tully > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 8:16 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: RE: [WISPA] Muni wireless > > At 01:39 PM 3/23/2006, you wrote: > >Have you released any pricing for a 2 and 3 radio system? > > Hello Chris, > > You can current buy the RB112 for $99 list price -- one Ethernet and two > mpci. The RB532 with the RB502 has four mpci and three Eth -- I guess the > price is something like $185 list together. > > They will both be software upgradable. The examples you will see at the > MUM do not have the no config support. This is in development now. > > John > www.mikrotik.com > > > > If I could add a > >word based on experience with more expensive systems- more control is > >better. An easy or auto install system needs to give the provider every > >option to inject control at every level. Lots of monitoring stats on > both > >link and service side are great also. > > > >Thanks > >Chris > > > > > > >>Hello John, > > >> > > >>MikroTik is currently developing the biggest feature of mesh -- easy > to > > >>install systems (no configuration required) that have a radio (or > more) > > >>for local and a radio (or more) for backbone. This will enable WISP > to > > >>compete better with the expensive Strix and other MESH systems. You > will > > >>hear more about this at the MikroTik user meeting in Dallas - > > >>mum.mikrotik.com . > > >> > > >>John > > >>www.mikrotik.com > > > > > >-- > >WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > >Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Trango any good?
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15747910 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Muni wireless
What happened to the RB512's ?? Not enough demand, it seems that people are happy to pay the additional dollars for the full RB532. For those that used the RB512, the RB112 may be a suitable alternative. John mum.mikrotik.com > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of John Tully > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 8:16 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: RE: [WISPA] Muni wireless > > At 01:39 PM 3/23/2006, you wrote: > >Have you released any pricing for a 2 and 3 radio system? > > Hello Chris, > > You can current buy the RB112 for $99 list price -- one Ethernet and two > mpci. The RB532 with the RB502 has four mpci and three Eth -- I guess the > price is something like $185 list together. > > They will both be software upgradable. The examples you will see at the > MUM do not have the no config support. This is in development now. > > John > www.mikrotik.com > > > > If I could add a > >word based on experience with more expensive systems- more control is > >better. An easy or auto install system needs to give the provider every > >option to inject control at every level. Lots of monitoring stats on > both > >link and service side are great also. > > > >Thanks > >Chris > > > > > > >>Hello John, > > >> > > >>MikroTik is currently developing the biggest feature of mesh -- easy > to > > >>install systems (no configuration required) that have a radio (or > more) > > >>for local and a radio (or more) for backbone. This will enable WISP > to > > >>compete better with the expensive Strix and other MESH systems. You > will > > >>hear more about this at the MikroTik user meeting in Dallas - > > >>mum.mikrotik.com . > > >> > > >>John > > >>www.mikrotik.com > > > > > >-- > >WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > >Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Muni wireless
John, When will we see something with a little more CPU power in an RB style configuration? 800mhz would be nice. ;) Travis Microserv John Tully wrote: What happened to the RB512's ?? Not enough demand, it seems that people are happy to pay the additional dollars for the full RB532. For those that used the RB512, the RB112 may be a suitable alternative. John mum.mikrotik.com > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of John Tully > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 8:16 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: RE: [WISPA] Muni wireless > > At 01:39 PM 3/23/2006, you wrote: > >Have you released any pricing for a 2 and 3 radio system? > > Hello Chris, > > You can current buy the RB112 for $99 list price -- one Ethernet and two > mpci. The RB532 with the RB502 has four mpci and three Eth -- I guess the > price is something like $185 list together. > > They will both be software upgradable. The examples you will see at the > MUM do not have the no config support. This is in development now. > > John > www.mikrotik.com > > > > If I could add a > >word based on experience with more expensive systems- more control is > >better. An easy or auto install system needs to give the provider every > >option to inject control at every level. Lots of monitoring stats on > both > >link and service side are great also. > > > >Thanks > >Chris > > > > > > >>Hello John, > > >> > > >>MikroTik is currently developing the biggest feature of mesh -- easy > to > > >>install systems (no configuration required) that have a radio (or > more) > > >>for local and a radio (or more) for backbone. This will enable WISP > to > > >>compete better with the expensive Strix and other MESH systems. You > will > > >>hear more about this at the MikroTik user meeting in Dallas - > > >>mum.mikrotik.com . > > >> > > >>John > > >>www.mikrotik.com > > > > > >-- > >WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > >Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Muni wireless
At 06:53 AM 3/24/2006, you wrote: John, When will we see something with a little more CPU power in an RB style configuration? 800mhz would be nice. ;) We have projects in design now, but we only announce details just before we are going into mass production -- and I don't have an estimate for that either! John www.mikrotik.com Travis Microserv John Tully wrote: What happened to the RB512's ?? Not enough demand, it seems that people are happy to pay the additional dollars for the full RB532. For those that used the RB512, the RB112 may be a suitable alternative. John mum.mikrotik.com > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of John Tully > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 8:16 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: RE: [WISPA] Muni wireless > > At 01:39 PM 3/23/2006, you wrote: > >Have you released any pricing for a 2 and 3 radio system? > > Hello Chris, > > You can current buy the RB112 for $99 list price -- one Ethernet and two > mpci. The RB532 with the RB502 has four mpci and three Eth -- I guess the > price is something like $185 list together. > > They will both be software upgradable. The examples you will see at the > MUM do not have the no config support. This is in development now. > > John > www.mikrotik.com > > > > If I could add a > >word based on experience with more expensive systems- more control is > >better. An easy or auto install system needs to give the provider every > >option to inject control at every level. Lots of monitoring stats on > both > >link and service side are great also. > > > >Thanks > >Chris > > > > > > >>Hello John, > > >> > > >>MikroTik is currently developing the biggest feature of mesh -- easy > to > > >>install systems (no configuration required) that have a radio (or > more) > > >>for local and a radio (or more) for backbone. This will enable WISP > to > > >>compete better with the expensive Strix and other MESH systems. You > will > > >>hear more about this at the MikroTik user meeting in Dallas - > > >>mum.mikrotik.com . > > >> > > >>John > > >>www.mikrotik.com > > > > > >-- > >WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > >Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Muni wireless
John, When are we going to see some of the new CPE boards on the market? I forgot their number :-) Mac Dearman Maximum Access, LLC. Authorized Barracuda Reseller MikroTik RouterOS Certified www.inetsouth.com www.mac-tel.us www.RadioResponse.org (Katrina Relief) Rayville, La. 318.728.8600 318.303.4228 318.303.4229 - Original Message - From: "John Tully" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 10:57 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Muni wireless At 06:53 AM 3/24/2006, you wrote: John, When will we see something with a little more CPU power in an RB style configuration? 800mhz would be nice. ;) We have projects in design now, but we only announce details just before we are going into mass production -- and I don't have an estimate for that either! John www.mikrotik.com Travis Microserv John Tully wrote: What happened to the RB512's ?? Not enough demand, it seems that people are happy to pay the additional dollars for the full RB532. For those that used the RB512, the RB112 may be a suitable alternative. John mum.mikrotik.com > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On > Behalf Of John Tully > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 8:16 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: RE: [WISPA] Muni wireless > > At 01:39 PM 3/23/2006, you wrote: > >Have you released any pricing for a 2 and 3 radio system? > > Hello Chris, > > You can current buy the RB112 for $99 list price -- one Ethernet and > two > mpci. The RB532 with the RB502 has four mpci and three Eth -- I guess the > price is something like $185 list together. > > They will both be software upgradable. The examples you will see at > the > MUM do not have the no config support. This is in development now. > > John > www.mikrotik.com > > > > If I could add a > >word based on experience with more expensive systems- more control > >is > >better. An easy or auto install system needs to give the provider > >every > >option to inject control at every level. Lots of monitoring stats > >on > both > >link and service side are great also. > > > >Thanks > >Chris > > > > > > >>Hello John, > > >> > > >>MikroTik is currently developing the biggest feature of mesh -- > > >>easy > to > > >>install systems (no configuration required) that have a radio (or > more) > > >>for local and a radio (or more) for backbone. This will enable > > >>WISP > to > > >>compete better with the expensive Strix and other MESH systems. > > >>You > will > > >>hear more about this at the MikroTik user meeting in Dallas - > > >>mum.mikrotik.com . > > >> > > >>John > > >>www.mikrotik.com > > > > > >-- > >WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > >Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
