I will send you guys the image
Dave Brenton escribió:
Carlos,
3 Questions:
1) How far apart are office 1 and office 2?
2) Can you see from one to the other?
3) Do you NEED to provide bandwidth to P1 P2 and P3?
Dave Brenton
General Manager
Rural Tennessee Wireless Broadband
Bringing FAST
Are you the guy to see about Internet down there? If my passport gets
here in time I'll be there after the 15th and will need Internet.
Lonnie
On 3/2/07, Carlos A. Garcia G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks i 'll check this info, best regards, if you guyst ever come to
cabo san lucas mexico,
Bridgewave 60Ghz works excellently! Very nice stuff. Full Gbps
full duplex speeds. Few computers or laptops, if any at all, can reach
those speeds. Our sysadmin figured a way to test capacity with Cisco
switches on both ends by flooding the link.
Expensive. Yes.
I only see it
Hi i have check some equipments sugested, and i have a question about it
first someone has try the senao NL-3054CB3 it seems that it is very good
equipment, and the second one its the proxim AP's wich support WDS but
as far as i can see those products has onboard antennas what i dont know
can
Tom DeReggi wrote:
Anyone that can afford name brand high capacity unlicensed PTPs can
afford 60Ghz.
You can go 1/2 mile for under $10,000 with Proxim. Financed over 3
years will allow it to be paid for with the first T1 customer.
The problem is back hauling it :-) Not all WISPs will be in
802.11 and contention in general is, at least under the original RO
(which is being revisited), an acceptable protocol. It is not THE
protocol. This is not a debatable point, though it does have many
confused. But I was there, twice, and received that answer directly from
the FCC team that wrote
So what your saying Patrick is,
It's ok, we should go and buy some of these things and do some testing,
right?
:)
George
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Looking for service at the following addresses.
8900 State Hwy 12, McKinney, TX 75050
3092 N. Eastman Road, Suite 100, Longview, TX 75605
Let me know if you service these areas.
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You are trying to wind me up aren't you George? :)
Speaking to the community at large:
The good folks at the FCC lab in MD are already buried. In part, some of
this is because of frivolous and disingenuous STA filings. Your average
simple STA used to take about 2 months tops to get approved. The
What is STA?
Mark
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You are trying to wind me up aren't you George? :)
Special Temporary Authority.
These are temporary use permits issued by the FCC, typically to use
pieces of frequency not publicly generally available. Such use is
limited to testing purposes, most often to learn and develop technical
aspects of a new system in development. Commercial use (revenue
From the FCC Web site:
Filing Guidelines for Experimental Special Temporary Authorization
To provide applicants for experimental Special Temporary Authorization
(STA) with the best possible service, we offer the following guidelines:
STAs are intended for experiments that will last no longer
Patrick Leary wrote:
You are trying to wind me up aren't you George? :)
:)
Well maybe a bit, but some of us have our 3650 aps in.
Just figuring your a wealth of information and I knew you would expand
upon this.
George
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If your STA is not for this purpose, its legitimacy is, well,
questionable.
5.57
(a) Each applicant for an authorization in the Experimental Radio
Service must enclose with the application a narrative statement
describing in detail the program of research and experimentation
proposed, the
Subpart D, Operating Requirements, General Limitations 5.151:
(1) Stations may make only such transmissions as are necessary and
directly related to the conduct of the licensee's stated program of
experimentation as specified in this application for construction permit
and license and the related
Inspection Rights...
§ 5.160 Inspection of stations.
All stations and records of stations in the Experimental Radio Service shall be
made available for inspection at any time while the station is in operation or
shall be made available for inspection upon reasonable request of an authorized
Hi John,
The Ubiquitu XR3 spec sheet is misleading. As far as I know, there is no
current legal license-free 3650 operation allowed, as Ubiquity states.
Operation on 3650 can only take place when a Special Temporary
Authorization aplication has been submitted to the FCC and an STA
approval
So anyone operating an illegal network is also inviting further trouble upon
themselves if they file for an STA. I have had an FCC officer visit the site on
an STA. File one, and you draw direct attention to yourself and that's not
something you want to do if your operation is not legal to
George, why do you have an STA application pending? What are your plans
for the gear? What is the experiment you will be performing?
Patrick Leary
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First, lets clear things up.
I already know that we are not supposed to use it as part of our
network, regardless of what others might think. We have already heard
someone else say other wise on a different list as part of a different
organization.
So, for me, it's to experiment with and to
George, to the extent that this thread contributes to myth quashing (a
never ending task in this business), it is all good, as the
colloquialism goes. Be careful though. STA's are not designed for every
WISP out there to discover the same thing and the body of knowledge
about how 3.65 propagates
It's actually a very good thread.
Just think of those who heard some one else last year say they were
using their for backhaul...
Now they know better.
These new cards, which have actually been talked about for quite some
time, will help some of the guys (the RF Gearheads) to do more
... Now they know better.
Alas, we can, and I always do, hope that people learn.
Patrick Leary
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Patrick Leary wrote:
... Now they know better.
Alas, we can, and I always do, hope that people learn.
That is the whole point of these lists.
To educate and help wisps understand better.
What good is a dormant list?
Some may think that a lot of these posts are just talk and hopefully
George Rogato wrote:
Lets hope this time, the manufacturer acts responsibly and doesn't
just sell them to just anyone with a cc.
I didn't think a radio vendor was allowed to sell a product for use with
an experimental license. I thought the radio vendor could only let you
use the radio for the
The McKinney, TX address doesn't come up as a good address using Yahoo or
Google maps. Can you confirm the address, provide coordinates or possibly
identify the closest major intersection?
What type of service are they looking for?
Best,
Brad
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That's why operator-acquired STAs are usually worked cooperatively with
vendors, i.e. the vendor is looking for the operator to perform specific
real world tests for the purposes of product validation, refinement,
etc.
Even when I've received an STA for demonstrating 3.x GHz product in a
show
Patrick Leary wrote:
That's why operator-acquired STAs are usually worked cooperatively with
vendors, i.e. the vendor is looking for the operator to perform specific
real world tests for the purposes of product validation, refinement,
etc.
Sure... we just had to give the radios back
Patrick Leary wrote:
You are trying to wind me up aren't you George? :)
Does it take much? I think you are probably a one twist is all it
takes sort of guy. :-)
Speaking to the community at large:
The good folks at the FCC lab in MD are already buried. In part, some of
this is
So now you want to bitch because too many people are trying to get
stuff
certified?
I can't wait for this
fun thread to blossom into what I am sure will be as much fun as my last
trip to the dentist.
John, sorry but this post eludes me. This thread has zip, zero, nada to
do worth product
Jack Patrick: thanks for all the info on 3650 status.
This type of response is why I'm on this mailing list.
That March 10, 2005 announcement is near-and-dear to me, since that
is what started me on the WISP path. I haven't closely followed the
progress on 3650, so when I saw the XR3 info
Part-15 org people selling a help get licensed on 3650 manual -- their
webpage doesn't indicate to me that it is still experimental.
http://www.part-15.org/sales/3650manual.asp
Catch this from that page:
Training Manual
Have you looked into using 3650MHz for the security of
Last post I received until the below was John's post entering this
thread just over one hour ago. Did the list go down?
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John,
To learn the propagation characteristics of 3.x GHz gear, testing in the
3300-3500 MHz ham band is clearly the best way to go. Personal
experimentation (advancing the radio art) and performing public
service were (and are) the reason that the amateur radio service exists.
Of course, we
It is a construction company client of ours that has locations all over the
US. They would need a temporary (3-6 months or more connection for the
constructions office.) The address is for a future building. I will try
some variations
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Test received...
Patrick Leary wrote:
Last post I received until the below was John's post entering this
thread just over one hour ago. Did the list go down?
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The folks at the FCC aren't stupid. My *guess* is that they are allowing
some use of the band by commercial operators to gather field data about
what'll really happen when they release the band.
marlon
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WISPA and Part-15.Org Concur on use of Whitespace Spectrum
Washington, DC (March 1, 2007) One of the key issues concerning commercial
wireless broadband providers is how the FCC will control the unused
I thought that STA was a certification process for getting 3650 stuff
certified. My bad. Sorry for the rude comments. I'll shut up now.
Scriv
Patrick Leary wrote:
So now you want to bitch because too many people are trying to get
stuff
certified?
I can't wait for this
fun thread to
Hi,
We have had several 18ghz links up and running for almost 4 years. Using
many of the path calc programs, they show as much as 28 minutes per year
of outage (due to multi-path and rain fade). Yet, during the entire last
4 years, we have never seen the signal change by more than 3-4db. We
Are these Dragon Wave links? This is good news for the up-time you are
seeing. Do you have much rain where you are? I am definitely more
interested in this band now. What kind of speeds can a guy expect from
links like this? How much do they cost?
Thanks much,
Scriv
Travis Johnson wrote:
Hi,
The last three links we installed have been Dragonwave (two AirPair 50's
and one AirPair 100). They provide full-duplex operation at whatever
speed you buy (so the AirPair 50's will do 50Mbps x 50Mbps). I have been
able to get 52Mbps across the 50's using the Mikrotik speed test program
On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 18:40:33 -0500, John Valenti wrote
Jack Patrick: thanks for all the info on 3650 status.
This type of response is why I'm on this mailing list.
That March 10, 2005 announcement is near-and-dear to me, since that
is what started me on the WISP path. I haven't closely
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