Re: [WISPA] wireless in the Bahamas

2007-08-14 Thread Matt Liotta

W.D.McKinney wrote:

Yes, see http://www.bgcfreedom.com/

  
I called them and as of 2 weeks ago they are no longer providing 
wireless services.


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Re: [WISPA] Direc TV and Dish

2007-08-14 Thread Ross Cornett

Hey John,

We are selling direct, dish, wild blue and hughes net...  That is our in the 
door options.  Now we can sell Internet and TV to anyone that wants it.  WE 
also will be offering our own VOIP to anyone on our network that wants it 
through AERO communications.


FYI.


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From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 6:54 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Direc TV and Dish



We now have 3 full time installer / techs. I am thinking we should
probably be selling Direc TV and Dish along with our wireless Internet.
Anyone else doing this? What is good or bad about this? How do I go
about becoming a dealer for these products? I have sales experience in
Cable TV industry. I used to sell to Motels and such for 3 states. I
know we could do this. I also want to do television for the motels
around here. Are others doing this with any success? I think Rick
Harnish told me he was doing this. Any information is much appreciated.
All the best,
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[WISPA] OT - 1 Week Winidow to file FCC FM Broadcast Station License Application

2007-08-14 Thread Jack Unger
Sorry for the off-topic post. I'm not sure how many on this list may be 
interested in this but I thought it might interest a few.


http://getradio.org/


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RE: [WISPA] Direc TV and Dish

2007-08-14 Thread chris cooper
So what's the difference between direct and dish?  Can you share what
the fee structures are?

c

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Behalf Of Ross Cornett
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 10:01 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Direc TV and Dish

Hey John,

We are selling direct, dish, wild blue and hughes net...  That is our in
the 
door options.  Now we can sell Internet and TV to anyone that wants it.
WE 
also will be offering our own VOIP to anyone on our network that wants
it 
through AERO communications.

FYI.


- Original Message - 
From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 6:54 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Direc TV and Dish


 We now have 3 full time installer / techs. I am thinking we should
 probably be selling Direc TV and Dish along with our wireless
Internet.
 Anyone else doing this? What is good or bad about this? How do I go
 about becoming a dealer for these products? I have sales experience in
 Cable TV industry. I used to sell to Motels and such for 3 states. I
 know we could do this. I also want to do television for the motels
 around here. Are others doing this with any success? I think Rick
 Harnish told me he was doing this. Any information is much
appreciated.
 All the best,
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Re: [WISPA] Direc TV and Dish

2007-08-14 Thread Ross Cornett
It is just nice to have them both, becuase some customers like each.  Both 
pay well and solid service little support needs...


Ross

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So what's the difference between direct and dish?  Can you share what
the fee structures are?

c

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Ross Cornett
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 10:01 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Direc TV and Dish

Hey John,

We are selling direct, dish, wild blue and hughes net...  That is our in
the
door options.  Now we can sell Internet and TV to anyone that wants it.
WE
also will be offering our own VOIP to anyone on our network that wants
it
through AERO communications.

FYI.


- Original Message - 
From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 6:54 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Direc TV and Dish



We now have 3 full time installer / techs. I am thinking we should
probably be selling Direc TV and Dish along with our wireless

Internet.

Anyone else doing this? What is good or bad about this? How do I go
about becoming a dealer for these products? I have sales experience in
Cable TV industry. I used to sell to Motels and such for 3 states. I
know we could do this. I also want to do television for the motels
around here. Are others doing this with any success? I think Rick
Harnish told me he was doing this. Any information is much

appreciated.

All the best,
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[WISPA] Working with other WISPs

2007-08-14 Thread Mike Hammett
I am planning expanding to a new tower.  According to all of my competitor's 
web sites, no one really covers this location.  I haven't dealt with most of 
them in the past.  What is the best approach to frequency coordination or what 
is there to protect me if I approach them to work out a band plan, only to have 
them build there themselves?


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[WISPA] multi path interference

2007-08-14 Thread RC

Few questions about 900mhz...

How far should a omni ant. standoff from a tower?

It seem as though I have good snr data, but the signal quality is poor.

I'm using wave rider gear, my rssi is -70 my RNA is 30 to 40 , but my SQ 
is 11-30


According to waverider  they claim I have multi path issues, any 
suggestions?


RC

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Re: [WISPA] wireless in the Bahamas

2007-08-14 Thread JohnnyO

Call and speak to JParr - he will guide you in the right direction.

JohnnyO
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W.D.McKinney wrote:

Yes, see http://www.bgcfreedom.com/


I called them and as of 2 weeks ago they are no longer providing wireless 
services.


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RE: [WISPA] Thanks Everyone - OT

2007-08-14 Thread Patrick Leary
Let us know how it goes Ryan. Give my best to the folks up there.

- Patrick

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Ryan Langseth
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 9:45 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Thanks Everyone - OT

We are really close to having one of our first bigger accounts with VL,
6 U/D and some advanced services with it (BGP and some other redunancy
services). Its not a big bandwidth piece, but we are filling a void in
our area. It will be interesting to see where it goes. :)

Ryan

On Mon, 2007-08-13 at 21:24 -0700, Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
 Coolness.  I'm probably only a month away from ordering my first batch
of 
 VL.  Looking forward to it.
 
 You still thinking of coming up here next month?  I sent an off list
note 
 but I don't think you are getting them from me.
 
 laters,
 marlon
 
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 Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 1:48 PM
 Subject: RE: [WISPA] Thanks Everyone - OT
 
 
 You do have major price drops through the COMNET program (sub $300 VL
 CPE for the CPE that lists for $995), resulting in MUCH more humble
 margins. Remember that that gross is across all product sets, to
include
 BreezeMAX and right now, since operators are just now building out,
the
 numbers reflect a strong mix of infrastructure relative to CPE.
 
 -  Patrick
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
 Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
 Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 1:37 PM
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 yeah, looks like a dang good reason for some price drops to me!  lol
 marlon
 
 - Original Message - 
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 Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 8:12 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Thanks Everyone - OT
 
 
  Congrats Patrick.
 
  Gross margin of 51%
 
  I wish I could do that on this end. LOL.
 
  -- Original Message --
  From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Date:  Wed, 1 Aug 2007 07:40:00 -0700
 
 
 Just a note of appreciation to all our customers for enabling us to
 report an excellent Q2 quarterly report today, which beat the
street
 estimates. Highlights include:
 
 - Record revenues of $57.5 million, up 31% from Q2 2006;
 - Record BreezeMAX(TM) revenues of $27.9 million;
 - Gross margin of 51%;
 - Non-GAAP EPS of $0.03; GAAP EPS of $0.00;
 - Commercial WiMAX deployments of 170, up from 150 in Q1
 - About 40 802.16e mobile WiMAX trials (about 2x claimed by any
 competitor)
 - Major new ecosystem partners such as Bridgewater and Arraycom (for
 beamforming)
 - Positive operating cash flow of $2.6 million, growing cash to
about
 $122M
 - Revising Y over Y growth to 25-30%
 
 http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/070801/20070731006573.html?.v=1
 
 And more central to the WISP front, one of the other up surprises is
 that our non-WiMAX business continued to grow, thanks mostly in part
 to
 our North American BreezeACCESS VL and BreezeNET B100 customers. I
 want
 WISPs to know that even with the heavy investments on the WiMAX
side,
 we
 continue to invest in our UL solutions and we consider our work on
the
 unlicensed front as a major part of our business.
 
 In the near term this means you already place orders for 5.4 GHz
 BreezeACCESS VL, as well as 5.3 GHz and of course 5.8 GHz. We hope
to
 bring you other bands for unlicensed in the not-to-distant future as
 well.
 
 Thanks again to all,
 
 Regards,
 
 Patrick
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Re: [WISPA] Direc TV and Dish

2007-08-14 Thread Mike Hammett
Good luck with Aero\Heartland...  I've been dealing with those guys on and 
off for years.  I say, Give me a price.  They never call back.



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- Original Message - 
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To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Direc TV and Dish



Hey John,

We are selling direct, dish, wild blue and hughes net...  That is our in 
the door options.  Now we can sell Internet and TV to anyone that wants 
it.  WE also will be offering our own VOIP to anyone on our network that 
wants it through AERO communications.


FYI.


- Original Message - 
From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 6:54 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Direc TV and Dish



We now have 3 full time installer / techs. I am thinking we should
probably be selling Direc TV and Dish along with our wireless Internet.
Anyone else doing this? What is good or bad about this? How do I go
about becoming a dealer for these products? I have sales experience in
Cable TV industry. I used to sell to Motels and such for 3 states. I
know we could do this. I also want to do television for the motels
around here. Are others doing this with any success? I think Rick
Harnish told me he was doing this. Any information is much appreciated.
All the best,
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Re: [WISPA] Working with other WISPs

2007-08-14 Thread Mike Hammett
There's no doubt I can get whatever I want out of the landlord (someone I 
know knows the owner of the only grain elevator in town).  However, my 
opinion is that exclusive UL use is for the birds...  Someone can build 1/4 
mile away and put me out without violating any contracts.  It sounds like 
I'll sweep the spectrum and then let them know what I'm doing as I'm doing 
it.



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- Original Message - 
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Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 9:25 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Working with other WISPs


I am planning expanding to a new tower.  According to all of my competitor's 
web sites, no one really covers this location.  I haven't dealt with most of 
them in the past.  What is the best approach to frequency coordination or 
what is there to protect me if I approach them to work out a band plan, only 
to have them build there themselves?



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[WISPA] Conduits

2007-08-14 Thread Mike Hammett
So one has a long piece of conduit (150').  How would I get wires and the pull 
string through the conduit in the first place?


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RE: [WISPA] Conduits

2007-08-14 Thread Smith, Rick

Sandwich bag, with string tied around it, stuff lightly in the hole at
one end.

Large shop-vac at the other.

Suck.

tie string to cable.  Pull.

Done.

:) 


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So one has a long piece of conduit (150').  How would I get wires and
the pull string through the conduit in the first place?

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RE: [WISPA] Conduits

2007-08-14 Thread Smith, Rick

oh, that or a 240' wiring snake...

Make sure the glue's dry before you do the bag-vac thing... that nailed
us BIG one time.  :) 

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Sandwich bag, with string tied around it, stuff lightly in the hole at
one end.

Large shop-vac at the other.

Suck.

tie string to cable.  Pull.

Done.

:) 


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Subject: [WISPA] Conduits

So one has a long piece of conduit (150').  How would I get wires and
the pull string through the conduit in the first place?

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RE: [WISPA] Conduits

2007-08-14 Thread Larry A Weidig
One method if the conduit is empty is to attach a light pull
string to a ping pong ball and then to suck it through with a vacuum on
the conduit from the opposite end as the ping pong ball.  This of course
assumes the conduit is tight sealed.


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Subject: [WISPA] Conduits

So one has a long piece of conduit (150').  How would I get wires and
the pull string through the conduit in the first place?


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[WISPA] RJ-45 and crimpers

2007-08-14 Thread Mike Hammett
The RJ-45 male connectors and crimpers I use are a PITA sometimes.  What are 
some nice connectors and crimpers to use?  The female ends I use are really 
easy to put in the right order (and stay there), they don't have to be the 
exact length, etc.

That said, I'm looking at possibly needing to install some shielded cable.  I'd 
imagine they'd need a connector made for shielded cable.  Suggestions on this 
route are appreciated as well.


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Re: [WISPA] Conduits

2007-08-14 Thread Mike Hammett
I'd like to note that I've done conduit projects before, but always with 10' 
sections, so I could just push the stuff through.



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So one has a long piece of conduit (150').  How would I get wires and the 
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RE: [WISPA] RJ-45 and crimpers

2007-08-14 Thread Smith, Rick

If this is going in that conduit, use gel filled, not shielded.

I'm in love with EZ-RJ45's.  They're expensive - $.55 / connector or so,
but MAN do they save time and you KNOW it's done in the right pattern.

 http://www.telephoneparts.com/product/EZRJ45/EZ-RJ45+Crimping+System

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 3:47 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] RJ-45 and crimpers

The RJ-45 male connectors and crimpers I use are a PITA sometimes.  What
are some nice connectors and crimpers to use?  The female ends I use are
really easy to put in the right order (and stay there), they don't have
to be the exact length, etc.

That said, I'm looking at possibly needing to install some shielded
cable.  I'd imagine they'd need a connector made for shielded cable.
Suggestions on this route are appreciated as well.


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RE: [WISPA] Conduits

2007-08-14 Thread Russ Kreigh

Your local home-center or electrical supplier should sell conduit pistons,
we use ones from Greenlee.

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One method if the conduit is empty is to attach a light pull string
to a ping pong ball and then to suck it through with a vacuum on the conduit
from the opposite end as the ping pong ball.  This of course assumes the
conduit is tight sealed.


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Subject: [WISPA] Conduits

So one has a long piece of conduit (150').  How would I get wires and the
pull string through the conduit in the first place?


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Re: [WISPA] RJ-45 and crimpers

2007-08-14 Thread Dylan Oliver
I second the EZ-RJ45 tools - but get some extra blades for the cutter on the
handle as mine seemed to nick really easily (so it cuts only 7 of 8 wires
cleanly!)

On 8/14/07, Smith, Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 If this is going in that conduit, use gel filled, not shielded.

 I'm in love with EZ-RJ45's.  They're expensive - $.55 / connector or so,
 but MAN do they save time and you KNOW it's done in the right pattern.

 http://www.telephoneparts.com/product/EZRJ45/EZ-RJ45+Crimping+System


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Re: [WISPA] RJ-45 and crimpers

2007-08-14 Thread Mike Hammett
I had asked a short time ago about the type of cable to use in a conduit. 
Someone said indoor will work if it doesn't involve a frost line.  Most said 
standard outdoor in the conduit would work fine.


Previously someone had said to use gel-filled.  Why?


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Subject: RE: [WISPA] RJ-45 and crimpers



If this is going in that conduit, use gel filled, not shielded.

I'm in love with EZ-RJ45's.  They're expensive - $.55 / connector or so,
but MAN do they save time and you KNOW it's done in the right pattern.

http://www.telephoneparts.com/product/EZRJ45/EZ-RJ45+Crimping+System

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 3:47 PM
To: WISPA List
Subject: [WISPA] RJ-45 and crimpers

The RJ-45 male connectors and crimpers I use are a PITA sometimes.  What
are some nice connectors and crimpers to use?  The female ends I use are
really easy to put in the right order (and stay there), they don't have
to be the exact length, etc.

That said, I'm looking at possibly needing to install some shielded
cable.  I'd imagine they'd need a connector made for shielded cable.
Suggestions on this route are appreciated as well.


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Re: [WISPA] RJ-45 and crimpers

2007-08-14 Thread Mike Hammett

argh, not gel filled!   ;-)

I was looking at needing the shielded cable because of an FM station not far 
away.  I haven't been able to squelch it yet at a customer 1/2 mile away.



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Subject: RE: [WISPA] RJ-45 and crimpers



If this is going in that conduit, use gel filled, not shielded.

I'm in love with EZ-RJ45's.  They're expensive - $.55 / connector or so,
but MAN do they save time and you KNOW it's done in the right pattern.

http://www.telephoneparts.com/product/EZRJ45/EZ-RJ45+Crimping+System

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Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 3:47 PM
To: WISPA List
Subject: [WISPA] RJ-45 and crimpers

The RJ-45 male connectors and crimpers I use are a PITA sometimes.  What
are some nice connectors and crimpers to use?  The female ends I use are
really easy to put in the right order (and stay there), they don't have
to be the exact length, etc.

That said, I'm looking at possibly needing to install some shielded
cable.  I'd imagine they'd need a connector made for shielded cable.
Suggestions on this route are appreciated as well.


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Re: [WISPA] RJ-45 and crimpers

2007-08-14 Thread George Rogato

I know those EZ's are easy, but they are expensive.

Why don't you just learn to use the cheap ones and get it right. Why ay 
more if you don't have to?


George

Mike Hammett wrote:

The RJ-45 male connectors and crimpers I use are a PITA sometimes.  What are 
some nice connectors and crimpers to use?  The female ends I use are really 
easy to put in the right order (and stay there), they don't have to be the 
exact length, etc.

That said, I'm looking at possibly needing to install some shielded cable.  I'd 
imagine they'd need a connector made for shielded cable.  Suggestions on this 
route are appreciated as well.


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Re: [WISPA] RJ-45 and crimpers

2007-08-14 Thread Mike Hammett
I've done hundreds of crimps with the cheapos, but I am lazy and time is 
money.  ;-)


Regular indoor cable and the first few reels of outdoor cable I used were 
all pretty easy, but as I've started to get different kinds of cable in, 
some are more difficult to work with than others.



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I know those EZ's are easy, but they are expensive.

Why don't you just learn to use the cheap ones and get it right. Why ay 
more if you don't have to?


George

Mike Hammett wrote:
The RJ-45 male connectors and crimpers I use are a PITA sometimes.  What 
are some nice connectors and crimpers to use?  The female ends I use are 
really easy to put in the right order (and stay there), they don't have 
to be the exact length, etc.


That said, I'm looking at possibly needing to install some shielded 
cable.  I'd imagine they'd need a connector made for shielded cable. 
Suggestions on this route are appreciated as well.



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Re: [WISPA] wireless in the Bahamas

2007-08-14 Thread Tom DeReggi

I'd second that, Jeremy is the guy.

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better known as jparr ! Jeremy is a cool cat. Get in touch with him.
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I want to say his name was Jeremy but I may be mistaken.  It seems like 
Jeff

Booher had a buddy down there, but maybe it was Bermuda.

Rick

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There are several.  This is one I know of personally:

http://www.abacoinet.com/

Also, there was a guy on these lists who was from there, and I'm drawing 
a

complete blank on his name.  Someone will remember him, I'm sure.

Jeff




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I am curious if anyone on the list is familiar with wireless internet
service in the Bahamas.

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Re: [WISPA] RJ-45 and crimpers

2007-08-14 Thread Marty Troup
I use the shielded connectors from Cables To Go.. They seem to work  
well enough but they are definitely a PITA.  I use actual shielded  
RJ-45 or shielded Keystones and even Shielded Patch Panels that are  
then grounded outside via copper ground rod.


In my application it is grounded via the Patch Panel however if it  
were just going from a CPE/AP to a switch/computer i don't think it  
would be properly grounded?


Anyhow just some food for thought.

Here are the links:

http://www.cablestogo.com/product.asp?cat%5fid=419sku=27579

Demonstration of how to terminate, notice the loading bar diagram at  
the bottom.

http://www.vpi.us/installation/assemble-cat6shld.html

Quoting Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


argh, not gel filled!   ;-)

I was looking at needing the shielded cable because of an FM station
not far away.  I haven't been able to squelch it yet at a customer 1/2
mile away.


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- Original Message - From: Smith, Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 2:49 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] RJ-45 and crimpers



If this is going in that conduit, use gel filled, not shielded.

I'm in love with EZ-RJ45's.  They're expensive - $.55 / connector or so,
but MAN do they save time and you KNOW it's done in the right pattern.

http://www.telephoneparts.com/product/EZRJ45/EZ-RJ45+Crimping+System

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 3:47 PM
To: WISPA List
Subject: [WISPA] RJ-45 and crimpers

The RJ-45 male connectors and crimpers I use are a PITA sometimes.  What
are some nice connectors and crimpers to use?  The female ends I use are
really easy to put in the right order (and stay there), they don't have
to be the exact length, etc.

That said, I'm looking at possibly needing to install some shielded
cable.  I'd imagine they'd need a connector made for shielded cable.
Suggestions on this route are appreciated as well.


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RE: [WISPA] fcc committee survey

2007-08-14 Thread Ralph
For personal use only- not for resale.
And for non commercial use only.

If the test is such a joke, and if you want to experiment then by all
means, knock yourself out, get a Ham (not HAM) license and experiment. Maybe
you will help develop some new technology.
But don't in a minute think that there is any comparison whatsoever between
Amateur Radio and Wireless ISPs other than the obvious.
Some Hams became WISPS- thet really helped the industry gain some credible
experience.  I came from both Ham and 2-way commercial roots, with a little
IT and Voice thrown in along the way.

Some WISP operators became Hams... Probably to satisfy the desire to
experiment.
 
Mike- Hams are not homebuilding or piecing together networks, installing
them in high places and offering their use for money like WISPS are. There's
a lot of difference.

And for Jeromie- be careful what you wish for.  The FCC *could* outlaw
for-profit use of Part 15 spectrum altogether.  The WiMax and Cellco boys
would LOVE to see that, so don't wish for a license unless you really really
want one and are ready to pay 10 times the price for gear plus deal with 10
times the paperwork.

I don't foresee an available licensed band though anytime soon. WISPS cannot
even follow what few rules there are now.  Why in the world would FCC think
that we could follow more stringent ones?


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Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 2:55 PM
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I hate it when someone says me too, but...me too.  ;-)

A lot of the things the FCC has are just silly...  like PC with wireless vs.

our stuff.  Why a HAM can take a test any joke can pass and then manufacture

gear himself, but we cannot use piece-it-together gear.  I don't care so 
much about the telco network.  If we get all of the other things we want 
(heck, even a subset) on the wireless side, the telco is irrelevant.


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Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 1:47 PM
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I was going to offlist this, but, I might as well put my foot where my
mouth is.

 In my opinion the top things I want addressed would be:

 I would like to see a WISP License like a Ham License. Its very simple 
 in idea but I think it would truly change the industry. Any one 
 wanting to be a wisp would get access to what ever spectrum can be 
 pulled from the FCC, including all the bands available right now. The 
 license would allow us to produce gear in the same way a ham can 
 solder up a radio and be legal. The test would need to include a lot 
 of things the ham tests do, a lot of things that the CWNP. All 
 installers would need to be certified if they assemble the unit, else, 
 the assembler will need to be. They will need ot put their license # 
 on the unit as well as a unit number or such. That unit number+license 
 will need to be filed with the fcc, but not its location of operation, 
 or, nothing more specific then the county/city it operates in. This 
 has the side effect of giving the FCC some hard numbers with out 
 giving away personal company information. This would be best as a 
 retroactive ruling with grace on old installs. I am not trying to be 
 political but if they can give grace to illegal aliens then they can 
 to wisps too, both are breaking the law and both are being productive 
 so both should get the same treatment.

 Clearer component cert: IE, what/why is there a difference from a 
 embedded board to a PC or laptop. Laptops ship with built in antennas 
 but no way are all certified mini pci cards tested with that antenna. 
 I would like to see very clear rulings on matching parts. Part of the 
 same, I would like to the allowance of changing cables with out 
 breaking cert.

 Abandon the USF, or at least reform it drastically. That rural telcos 
 should not get away with cherry picking while getting USF (I know 
 Qwest is doing this too, just picked up a dozen people they will not
 serve) but its my local that upsets me the most with it.

 I want dry line tariffs reinstated and enforced. Both Qwest and my 
 local rural telco refuse to sell copper on the grounds they do not 
 have to. I think its stupid that a copper company will not sell 
 copper. Personally I would break the physical company off from the 
 services company, but I know I am dreaming. VZ was at least honest and 
 said they did not want to and so would not. VZ is abandoning copper as 
 fast as they can, so lets make them sell it to some one and not rip it 
 out of the ground. If nothing else it should become city property for 
 them to lease to anyone at the same rates.

 On 8/3/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 Hi All,

 The FCC Committee would like 

Re: [WISPA] fcc committee survey

2007-08-14 Thread Mike Hammett

So?

That just gives the WISP extra incentive to make sure things work...  they 
could lose their livelihood.  Hams have and do install equipment wherever we 
install gear.  They have gone further than we have in that they have 
satellites.


I know plenty of Hams.  I actually took all of the practice tests and was 
working on Morse Code before I put it aside to work on something that will 
make me money instead of just cost me money.  :-)  I certainly intend to 
pursue that again once my livelihood has been established.


I know that Amateur operators have made a pile of innovations.

Just about anyone can pass the most basic Amateur test and thus be permitted 
to manufacture almost any device he so chooses, whether its garbage or not. 
At least with WISPs, those that are DIY are (largely or completely) using 
FCC certified components.



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Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 8:51 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] fcc committee survey


For personal use only- not for resale.
And for non commercial use only.

If the test is such a joke, and if you want to experiment then by all
means, knock yourself out, get a Ham (not HAM) license and experiment. Maybe
you will help develop some new technology.
But don't in a minute think that there is any comparison whatsoever between
Amateur Radio and Wireless ISPs other than the obvious.
Some Hams became WISPS- thet really helped the industry gain some credible
experience.  I came from both Ham and 2-way commercial roots, with a little
IT and Voice thrown in along the way.

Some WISP operators became Hams... Probably to satisfy the desire to
experiment.

Mike- Hams are not homebuilding or piecing together networks, installing
them in high places and offering their use for money like WISPS are. There's
a lot of difference.

And for Jeromie- be careful what you wish for.  The FCC *could* outlaw
for-profit use of Part 15 spectrum altogether.  The WiMax and Cellco boys
would LOVE to see that, so don't wish for a license unless you really really
want one and are ready to pay 10 times the price for gear plus deal with 10
times the paperwork.

I don't foresee an available licensed band though anytime soon. WISPS cannot
even follow what few rules there are now.  Why in the world would FCC think
that we could follow more stringent ones?


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Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 2:55 PM
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I hate it when someone says me too, but...me too.  ;-)

A lot of the things the FCC has are just silly...  like PC with wireless vs.

our stuff.  Why a HAM can take a test any joke can pass and then manufacture

gear himself, but we cannot use piece-it-together gear.  I don't care so
much about the telco network.  If we get all of the other things we want
(heck, even a subset) on the wireless side, the telco is irrelevant.


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I was going to offlist this, but, I might as well put my foot where my
mouth is.

In my opinion the top things I want addressed would be:

I would like to see a WISP License like a Ham License. Its very simple
in idea but I think it would truly change the industry. Any one
wanting to be a wisp would get access to what ever spectrum can be
pulled from the FCC, including all the bands available right now. The
license would allow us to produce gear in the same way a ham can
solder up a radio and be legal. The test would need to include a lot
of things the ham tests do, a lot of things that the CWNP. All
installers would need to be certified if they assemble the unit, else,
the assembler will need to be. They will need ot put their license #
on the unit as well as a unit number or such. That unit number+license
will need to be filed with the fcc, but not its location of operation,
or, nothing more specific then the county/city it operates in. This
has the side effect of giving the FCC some hard numbers with out
giving away personal company information. This would be best as a
retroactive ruling with grace on old installs. I am not trying to be
political but if they can give grace to illegal aliens then they can
to wisps too, both are breaking the law and both are being productive
so both should get the same treatment.

Clearer component cert: IE, what/why is there a difference from a
embedded board to a PC or laptop. Laptops ship with built in antennas
but no way are all certified mini pci cards tested with that antenna.
I would like to see very clear rulings on matching parts. Part of the

RE: [WISPA] Working with other WISPs

2007-08-14 Thread Ralph
Agreed. Here in Atlanta, no one has control of All rooftops. An exclusive
agreement protects you only from a co-lo. The other roofs can be as little
as 50 ft away.

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There's no doubt I can get whatever I want out of the landlord (someone I 
know knows the owner of the only grain elevator in town).  However, my 
opinion is that exclusive UL use is for the birds...  Someone can build 1/4 
mile away and put me out without violating any contracts.  It sounds like 
I'll sweep the spectrum and then let them know what I'm doing as I'm doing 
it.


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I am planning expanding to a new tower.  According to all of my competitor's

web sites, no one really covers this location.  I haven't dealt with most of

them in the past.  What is the best approach to frequency coordination or 
what is there to protect me if I approach them to work out a band plan, only

to have them build there themselves?


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RE: [WISPA] RE: How to get climbers licensed.

2007-08-14 Thread Ralph
I have been climbing for 30 years and took the Comtrain last month. It was
excellent!

Ralph

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Felix,

ComTrain will come to your facility to train if you have enough people to
make it worthwhile. You can usually get in on a hosted class that might
occur closer to you. 

As an industry, most safety coordinators recognize their program and
training certifications. I do not know of any others. 

Eric Albert
Application Engineer
Alvarion, Inc.

412-436-0363 Pittsburgh Office 
650-641-0072 CA Office
866-836-3844 Fax
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Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 11:07 AM
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Eric: Do you know of any similar Climber Certification
courses in the Silicon Valley or California?

Thanks.
Felix
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 These guys are good.
 
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 We were ask for certificates for our climbers for
 first time.
 
 Where can we get training for getting our climbers
 licensed?
 Either at our location or go to a training facility.
 
 Thanks,
 Don Renner
 NetsurfUSA, Inc.
 French Lick, IN 47432
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Re: [WISPA] RJ-45 and crimpers

2007-08-14 Thread George Rogato
The stuff we use to go up the tower is either a heavier gage copper or a 
thicker insulation on the conductor. Maybe both.
I use the ez's there always. It's easier to terminate and I'm that much 
more comfortable knowing I went the extra step to have no problems or 
issues.


On customer premises stuff, I use the typical connector and don't have 
any problems.


I also buy thousands per year and I like thouands times .10 than .55

George

Mike Hammett wrote:
I've done hundreds of crimps with the cheapos, but I am lazy and time is 
money.  ;-)


Regular indoor cable and the first few reels of outdoor cable I used 
were all pretty easy, but as I've started to get different kinds of 
cable in, some are more difficult to work with than others.



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I know those EZ's are easy, but they are expensive.

Why don't you just learn to use the cheap ones and get it right. Why 
ay more if you don't have to?


George

Mike Hammett wrote:
The RJ-45 male connectors and crimpers I use are a PITA sometimes.  
What are some nice connectors and crimpers to use?  The female ends I 
use are really easy to put in the right order (and stay there), they 
don't have to be the exact length, etc.


That said, I'm looking at possibly needing to install some shielded 
cable.  I'd imagine they'd need a connector made for shielded cable. 
Suggestions on this route are appreciated as well.



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Re: [WISPA] Direc TV and Dish

2007-08-14 Thread Ross Cornett
We deal directly though Heartland Internet out of Paducah KY.  They have 
been real pleasure to work with.  I am sorry to hear you misfortune with 
them. I will have my rep get intouch with you.


Ross

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Good luck with Aero\Heartland...  I've been dealing with those guys on and 
off for years.  I say, Give me a price.  They never call back.



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Hey John,

We are selling direct, dish, wild blue and hughes net...  That is our in 
the door options.  Now we can sell Internet and TV to anyone that wants 
it.  WE also will be offering our own VOIP to anyone on our network that 
wants it through AERO communications.


FYI.


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We now have 3 full time installer / techs. I am thinking we should
probably be selling Direc TV and Dish along with our wireless Internet.
Anyone else doing this? What is good or bad about this? How do I go
about becoming a dealer for these products? I have sales experience in
Cable TV industry. I used to sell to Motels and such for 3 states. I
know we could do this. I also want to do television for the motels
around here. Are others doing this with any success? I think Rick
Harnish told me he was doing this. Any information is much appreciated.
All the best,
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