Re: [WISPA] Remote power Reboot.

2007-08-24 Thread JohnnyO
Aren't there some remote reboot devices that use the paging systems ? Does 
anyone have links to these ?


JohnnyO
- Original Message - 
From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 12:25 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Remote power Reboot.


I was only aware of the DigitalLogger device at that low a cost point ($89 
+ $39 for autoping.)

If you find the other one, let us know.
I believe the The Digital-Logger device does have the ability to allow you 
to automate scripting into it. Did you check the FAQ on thier website, I 
thought I saw a help file on that.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: Scottie Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 12:49 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Remote power Reboot.



Hi all,

I am looking for a remote power reboot solution that works with telnet 
and/or auto ping for under $100. I know a couple of months ago I found 
one googling for about $89, but for the life of me can't find it 
again(guess I should have bought it then!).


I only need AC one outlet for this to reboot a cable modem/router. I can 
only seem to find Dataprobes stuff, and with a background in electronics 
and programming, I have yet to see where the gold is at in this for $300.


I found this one http://www.digital-loggers.com/lpc.html but it doesn't 
work with telnet according to the email I just received from them. I 
guess I could just use the auto-ping feature and not have to use telnet, 
but the other one I had found did everything I was looking for.


I have an access server that I can dial into and access my network, but 
to reach other gear inside, I have to telnet to them. TIA for any 
suggestions.


Scott

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Re: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum

2007-08-24 Thread Forrest W. Christian

Tom DeReggi wrote:
Several times you have suggested using legal council for finding 
licenses.

On the surface that sounds odd to me, just because
Why pay Lawyer rates ($400/hour) to do something that you could pay 
someone ($15 per hour to research for you.).
I don't know what John had in mind, but I will say that it is fairly 
common practice for unsolicited purchase/lease requests like this to be 
handled by outside council, simply to hide the identity of the person 
interested in the purchase or lease until at least interest is expressed 
by the existing owner.


That said, in these cases I expect the background research was not done 
by the lawyer but instead by the $15/hour person, which then would 
provide details to the law firm as to who to potentially contact about 
the lease/purchase.


-forrest


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RE: [WISPA] Remote power Reboot.

2007-08-24 Thread Gino Villarini
Those are nighthawk systems.  I have 6 brand new, for sale cheap.
(paging carrier coverage was poor)

Gino A. Villarini
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of JohnnyO
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 2:10 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Remote power Reboot.

Aren't there some remote reboot devices that use the paging systems ?
Does 
anyone have links to these ?

JohnnyO
- Original Message - 
From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 12:25 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Remote power Reboot.


I was only aware of the DigitalLogger device at that low a cost point
($89 
+ $39 for autoping.)
 If you find the other one, let us know.
 I believe the The Digital-Logger device does have the ability to allow
you 
 to automate scripting into it. Did you check the FAQ on thier website,
I 
 thought I saw a help file on that.

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message - 
 From: Scottie Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 12:49 AM
 Subject: [WISPA] Remote power Reboot.


 Hi all,

 I am looking for a remote power reboot solution that works with
telnet 
 and/or auto ping for under $100. I know a couple of months ago I
found 
 one googling for about $89, but for the life of me can't find it 
 again(guess I should have bought it then!).

 I only need AC one outlet for this to reboot a cable modem/router. I
can 
 only seem to find Dataprobes stuff, and with a background in
electronics 
 and programming, I have yet to see where the gold is at in this for
$300.

 I found this one http://www.digital-loggers.com/lpc.html but it
doesn't 
 work with telnet according to the email I just received from them. I 
 guess I could just use the auto-ping feature and not have to use
telnet, 
 but the other one I had found did everything I was looking for.

 I have an access server that I can dial into and access my network,
but 
 to reach other gear inside, I have to telnet to them. TIA for any 
 suggestions.

 Scott

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Re: [WISPA] Remote power Reboot.

2007-08-24 Thread Joe Miller
I have one JohnnyO, I don't use it any more. But here
is a link to the device
http://www.nighthawksystems.com/products.html It works
ok, bu it wasn't exactly what I needed, so it is
collecting dust on the used parts shelf in my shop. It
works with a paging system.

Joe Miller
www.dslbyair.com
--- JohnnyO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Aren't there some remote reboot devices that use the
 paging systems ? Does 
 anyone have links to these ?
 
 JohnnyO
 - Original Message - 
 From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List
 wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 12:25 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Remote power Reboot.
 
 
 I was only aware of the DigitalLogger device at
 that low a cost point ($89 
 + $39 for autoping.)
  If you find the other one, let us know.
  I believe the The Digital-Logger device does have
 the ability to allow you 
  to automate scripting into it. Did you check the
 FAQ on thier website, I 
  thought I saw a help file on that.
 
  Tom DeReggi
  RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
  IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
 
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Scottie Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 12:49 AM
  Subject: [WISPA] Remote power Reboot.
 
 
  Hi all,
 
  I am looking for a remote power reboot solution
 that works with telnet 
  and/or auto ping for under $100. I know a couple
 of months ago I found 
  one googling for about $89, but for the life of
 me can't find it 
  again(guess I should have bought it then!).
 
  I only need AC one outlet for this to reboot a
 cable modem/router. I can 
  only seem to find Dataprobes stuff, and with a
 background in electronics 
  and programming, I have yet to see where the gold
 is at in this for $300.
 
  I found this one
 http://www.digital-loggers.com/lpc.html but it
 doesn't 
  work with telnet according to the email I just
 received from them. I 
  guess I could just use the auto-ping feature and
 not have to use telnet, 
  but the other one I had found did everything I
 was looking for.
 
  I have an access server that I can dial into and
 access my network, but 
  to reach other gear inside, I have to telnet to
 them. TIA for any 
  suggestions.
 
  Scott
 
  Dial-Up Internet service from Info-Ed, Inc. as
 low as $9.99/mth.
  Check out www.info-ed.com for information.
 


 
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Re: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum

2007-08-24 Thread John Scrivner
Here is a good example of why I have said to consider talking to legal 
counsel. I recently had a school tell me they had a license available. 
They told me it covered 35 miles around them. This covered nearly all of 
my current and future proposed territory. I was elated. I started 
researching this and almost made an offer. As I often do, I decided to 
consult counsel first. I had Kris Twomey and Steven Coran look into this 
license. What I learned was that even though the license has a 35 mile 
radius, the center point was not the school that was issued the license. 
The center point was a little town nearly 25 miles away from that 
school. This shifted the entire coverage area to not only outside of my 
coverage area, but also to the point that my own home town was not even 
within coverage. This would have been disastrous to me if I had not had 
counsel to research this. I am not saying people cannot do this 
themselves. The point is that I will never be smart enough about all the 
legal nuances to be able to avoid pitfalls. I hire this work done to 
save me from things like this which could literally ruin me. Another 
issue is that you will need to produce a very detailed and legally sound 
lease agreement to access this spectrum. Who will guide you through this 
process? I just go straight to the source and get my attorney to handle 
these things.

Scriv


Tom DeReggi wrote:

John,

Several times you have suggested using legal council for finding 
licenses.

On the surface that sounds odd to me, just because
Why pay Lawyer rates ($400/hour) to do something that you could pay 
someone ($15 per hour to research for you.).

Research takes time, and that could get expensive at Lawyer rates.
Expecially when there is a high outcome that the results may come back 
unsuccessful.
With that said, I understand there is a expertise involved in any 
specialty task.
What about this task, makes it advantageous or justifyable to use 
Legal Councul for this research?
I'm not challenging your advice, I just want to understand it better, 
since it is outside my expertise currently.
Ar these lawyers already aware of what spectrum might be available to 
accelerate the process (preventing timely research)?
Or is it just needing the Legal expertise to negotiate the aquisition 
of the spectrum?


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 11:12 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum


So Patrick, if an operator has an interest in launching WiMAX using 
BreezeMax will Alvarion help them find and acquire access to a 
license in the market they are looking to launch? I know that is not 
your area of expertise but I also know that other competitive vendors 
are doing just this type of work to help operators get in the game.


If not I know that Kris Twomey and Stephen Coran are both capable of 
helping in this process. I am working on this myself.


It would be nice if an AWS profile were being established for WiMAX 
(since I have a license in this band which NOBODY has done anything 
with yet). I guess it will happen once someone steps up and places a 
BIG order!  :-)

Scriv


Patrick Leary wrote:

 The way, the link to the Secondary Market specific search is:
http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/searchLease.jsp

 Spectrum Lease Search

A new ULS feature to search for spectrum leases, including searches on
fields unique to leasing. The spectrum lease search results page is
standard ULS format with a link to lease details. The spectrum lease
detail page, also standard ULS format, is similar to license detail in
that the lease information is displayed in tabs such as Main, Admin,
Technical Data, and Market.

Patrick Leary
AVP, Market Development
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Visit Alvarion at WiMAX World
Chicago, September 25-27
Booth #409

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 1:30 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum

Yes and the FCC site has a specific search feature just for these 
things

and refers to this activity as Secondary Markets.

Patrick Alvarion

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 1:13 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum

Is there a documentation/reporting requirement of EBS spectrum holders
that requires them to report who they leased their spectrum to, and 
when/if

they leased it?
In other words, does the FCC search just show the original spectrum
holder (educational insititute) or also the subleasee?

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband



RE: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum

2007-08-24 Thread Mac Dearman
The thing about it is that (for instance) Stephen Coran already knew (from
memory) who held what License in my area! I was amazed that he held that
knowledge in memory for a Podunk part of this state. The other benefit of
having an attorney do this for you is the relationship he already has with
the people who actually hold these license as well.

Mac

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
 Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 11:19 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum
 
 John,
 
 Several times you have suggested using legal council for finding
 licenses.
 On the surface that sounds odd to me, just because
 Why pay Lawyer rates ($400/hour) to do something that you could pay
 someone
 ($15 per hour to research for you.).
 Research takes time, and that could get expensive at Lawyer rates.
 Expecially when there is a high outcome that the results may come back
 unsuccessful.
 With that said, I understand there is a expertise involved in any
 specialty
 task.
 What about this task, makes it advantageous or justifyable to use Legal
 Councul for this research?
 I'm not challenging your advice, I just want to understand it better,
 since
 it is outside my expertise currently.
 Ar these lawyers already aware of what spectrum might be available to
 accelerate the process (preventing timely research)?
 Or is it just needing the Legal expertise to negotiate the aquisition
 of the
 spectrum?
 
 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 11:12 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum
 
 
  So Patrick, if an operator has an interest in launching WiMAX using
  BreezeMax will Alvarion help them find and acquire access to a
 license in
  the market they are looking to launch? I know that is not your area
 of
  expertise but I also know that other competitive vendors are doing
 just
  this type of work to help operators get in the game.
 
  If not I know that Kris Twomey and Stephen Coran are both capable of
  helping in this process. I am working on this myself.
 
  It would be nice if an AWS profile were being established for WiMAX
 (since
  I have a license in this band which NOBODY has done anything with
 yet). I
  guess it will happen once someone steps up and places a BIG order!
 :-)
  Scriv
 
 
  Patrick Leary wrote:
   The way, the link to the Secondary Market specific search is:
  http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/searchLease.jsp
 
   Spectrum Lease Search
 
  A new ULS feature to search for spectrum leases, including searches
 on
  fields unique to leasing. The spectrum lease search results page is
  standard ULS format with a link to lease details. The spectrum lease
  detail page, also standard ULS format, is similar to license detail
 in
  that the lease information is displayed in tabs such as Main, Admin,
  Technical Data, and Market.
 
  Patrick Leary
  AVP, Market Development
  Alvarion, Inc.
  o: 650.314.2628
  c: 760.580.0080
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Visit Alvarion at WiMAX World
  Chicago, September 25-27
  Booth #409
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On
  Behalf Of Patrick Leary
  Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 1:30 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: RE: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum
 
  Yes and the FCC site has a specific search feature just for these
 things
  and refers to this activity as Secondary Markets.
 
  Patrick Alvarion
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On
  Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
  Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 1:13 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum
 
  Is there a documentation/reporting requirement of EBS spectrum
 holders
  that requires them to report who they leased their spectrum to, and
  when/if
  they leased it?
  In other words, does the FCC search just show the original spectrum
  holder (educational insititute) or also the subleasee?
 
  Tom DeReggi
  RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
  IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 8:43 PM
  Subject: RE: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum
 
 
  The band generally called 2.5 refers to an almost 200 MHz
 collection
  of spectrum divided up about 60% as non-profit EBS (educational
  broadband service) spectrum and 40% commercially auctioned BRS
  (broadband radio service) spectrum. These were formerly called ITFS
  (instructional fixed television service) and MMDS (multimedia
  distribution service). The original allocation was for one-way
 cable,
  but over the past years the band 

RE: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum

2007-08-24 Thread Patrick Leary
We do not have a specific practice internally that does this, so we tend
to refer them to legal resources. Thus far, those with intentions to do
regional or even local BreezeMAX networks either have the licenses
already or have been working on it. I have also helped myself to a
limited extent.

Yes, AWS is a tough one. Right now the WiMAX Forum is focusing on the
2.3 GHz and 2.5 GHz in the U.S., along with recent new activity in 700
MHz. The development of a profile for AWS is certainly still on the
table, but it is true that the potential for scale in that band effects
RD resource allocation.

Patrick

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of John Scrivner
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 8:12 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum

So Patrick, if an operator has an interest in launching WiMAX using 
BreezeMax will Alvarion help them find and acquire access to a license 
in the market they are looking to launch? I know that is not your area 
of expertise but I also know that other competitive vendors are doing 
just this type of work to help operators get in the game.

If not I know that Kris Twomey and Stephen Coran are both capable of 
helping in this process. I am working on this myself.

It would be nice if an AWS profile were being established for WiMAX 
(since I have a license in this band which NOBODY has done anything with

yet). I guess it will happen once someone steps up and places a BIG 
order!  :-)
Scriv


Patrick Leary wrote:
  The way, the link to the Secondary Market specific search is: 

 http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/searchLease.jsp

  Spectrum Lease Search

 A new ULS feature to search for spectrum leases, including searches on
 fields unique to leasing. The spectrum lease search results page is
 standard ULS format with a link to lease details. The spectrum lease
 detail page, also standard ULS format, is similar to license detail in
 that the lease information is displayed in tabs such as Main, Admin,
 Technical Data, and Market.

 Patrick Leary
 AVP, Market Development
 Alvarion, Inc.
 o: 650.314.2628
 c: 760.580.0080
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Visit Alvarion at WiMAX World
 Chicago, September 25-27
 Booth #409

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
 Behalf Of Patrick Leary
 Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 1:30 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: RE: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum

 Yes and the FCC site has a specific search feature just for these
things
 and refers to this activity as Secondary Markets.

 Patrick 
 Alvarion

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
 Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
 Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 1:13 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum

 Is there a documentation/reporting requirement of EBS spectrum holders
 that 
 requires them to report who they leased their spectrum to, and when/if
 they 
 leased it?
 In other words, does the FCC search just show the original spectrum
 holder 
 (educational insititute) or also the subleasee?

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message - 
 From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 8:43 PM
 Subject: RE: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum


 The band generally called 2.5 refers to an almost 200 MHz collection
 of spectrum divided up about 60% as non-profit EBS (educational
 broadband service) spectrum and 40% commercially auctioned BRS
 (broadband radio service) spectrum. These were formerly called ITFS
 (instructional fixed television service) and MMDS (multimedia
 distribution service). The original allocation was for one-way cable,
 but over the past years the band has been re-configured for broadband
 service.

 In any one area a variety of commercial and non-profits have various
 channels. The FCC allows the non-profits (including the schools you
 refer to) to sublet the spectrum to commercial operators.

 The 2.3 range is called WCS (wireless communications services) and
is
 different than the 2.5, both in terms of typical available channel
sizes
 and technical rules.

 BellSouth, as part of the ATT acquisition thereof, was required by
the
 feds to sell its stake in the commercial 2.5 GHz bands (principally
 around Florida and New Orleans). Clearwire bought these assets for
$300
 million a few months back.

 - Patrick

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
 Behalf Of Scottie Arnett
 Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 2:52 PM
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 Subject: RE: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum



 It looks as though BellSouth and Nextel have the 2.3 and Nextel has
the
 2.5.
 I thought they set aside some of those frequencies for schools? Can
the
 schools 

RE: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum

2007-08-24 Thread Patrick Leary
I agree with Mac, John, and Forrest. You get what you pay for and all
the questions and gotchas revolving around licenses call for
expertise. In the end, the legal fees to do this right are an
INVESTMENT, and not an especially onerous one. Put it this way (and I'm
not trying to be obnoxious), if you are not able or willing to invest in
legal council for licensing support you are probably not yet at the
right point to invest and deploy licensed band multipoint (or at least
to do it right).

Patrick
Alvarion

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mac Dearman
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 8:50 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum

The thing about it is that (for instance) Stephen Coran already knew
(from
memory) who held what License in my area! I was amazed that he held that
knowledge in memory for a Podunk part of this state. The other benefit
of
having an attorney do this for you is the relationship he already has
with
the people who actually hold these license as well.

Mac

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
 Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
 Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 11:19 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum
 
 John,
 
 Several times you have suggested using legal council for finding
 licenses.
 On the surface that sounds odd to me, just because
 Why pay Lawyer rates ($400/hour) to do something that you could pay
 someone
 ($15 per hour to research for you.).
 Research takes time, and that could get expensive at Lawyer rates.
 Expecially when there is a high outcome that the results may come back
 unsuccessful.
 With that said, I understand there is a expertise involved in any
 specialty
 task.
 What about this task, makes it advantageous or justifyable to use
Legal
 Councul for this research?
 I'm not challenging your advice, I just want to understand it better,
 since
 it is outside my expertise currently.
 Ar these lawyers already aware of what spectrum might be available to
 accelerate the process (preventing timely research)?
 Or is it just needing the Legal expertise to negotiate the aquisition
 of the
 spectrum?
 
 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 11:12 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum
 
 
  So Patrick, if an operator has an interest in launching WiMAX using
  BreezeMax will Alvarion help them find and acquire access to a
 license in
  the market they are looking to launch? I know that is not your area
 of
  expertise but I also know that other competitive vendors are doing
 just
  this type of work to help operators get in the game.
 
  If not I know that Kris Twomey and Stephen Coran are both capable of
  helping in this process. I am working on this myself.
 
  It would be nice if an AWS profile were being established for WiMAX
 (since
  I have a license in this band which NOBODY has done anything with
 yet). I
  guess it will happen once someone steps up and places a BIG order!
 :-)
  Scriv
 
 
  Patrick Leary wrote:
   The way, the link to the Secondary Market specific search is:
  http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/searchLease.jsp
 
   Spectrum Lease Search
 
  A new ULS feature to search for spectrum leases, including searches
 on
  fields unique to leasing. The spectrum lease search results page is
  standard ULS format with a link to lease details. The spectrum
lease
  detail page, also standard ULS format, is similar to license detail
 in
  that the lease information is displayed in tabs such as Main,
Admin,
  Technical Data, and Market.
 
  Patrick Leary
  AVP, Market Development
  Alvarion, Inc.
  o: 650.314.2628
  c: 760.580.0080
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Visit Alvarion at WiMAX World
  Chicago, September 25-27
  Booth #409
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On
  Behalf Of Patrick Leary
  Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 1:30 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: RE: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum
 
  Yes and the FCC site has a specific search feature just for these
 things
  and refers to this activity as Secondary Markets.
 
  Patrick Alvarion
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On
  Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
  Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 1:13 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum
 
  Is there a documentation/reporting requirement of EBS spectrum
 holders
  that requires them to report who they leased their spectrum to, and
  when/if
  they leased it?
  In other words, does the FCC search just show the original spectrum
  holder (educational insititute) or also the subleasee?
 
  Tom 

[WISPA] 2.4ghz antennas

2007-08-24 Thread Travis Johnson




Hi,

Anyone have any experience with Tranzeo's TR-24H-120-16 or TR-24H-120-13 sector antennas?

thanks,

Travis
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Re: [WISPA] 2.4ghz antennas

2007-08-24 Thread D . Ryan Spott

I bought my 120Vs from Hyperlink.

My experience with the 120Hs from Tranzeo was a poor one with me  
returning them about 60 days later. Damian swears they are in  
production in our WISP in BC but I don't know.


The 90H17s from Tranzeo are rock solid. I think the 120s are  
basically the same manufacturer, just different tuning.


I know this did not answer your exact question but the info is out  
there.


ryan


On Aug 24, 2007, at 1:04 PM, Travis Johnson wrote:


Hi,

Anyone have any experience with Tranzeo's TR-24H-120-16 or  
TR-24H-120-13 sector antennas?


thanks,

Travis
Microserv
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Re: [WISPA] 2.4ghz antennas

2007-08-24 Thread J. Vogel
I have a couple of the TR-24H-120-16 Product.aspx?Id=61629view=4
antennas in service for a few
months, so far I am very happy with them. They look to be well built
and are performing to expectation. I haven't had them long enough to
give a full recommendation, but so far real good.


Travis Johnson wrote:
 Hi,

 Anyone have any experience with Tranzeo's TR-24H-120-16
 Product.aspx?Id=61629view=4 or TR-24H-120-13 sector antennas?
 Product.aspx?Id=61629view=4

 thanks,

 Travis
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Re: [WISPA] 2.4ghz antennas

2007-08-24 Thread Ryan Langseth
We have two towns deployed with 3 of the TR-24H-120-16 without  
problems.  Both towers are grain elevators. the one is only about 80  
feet, and we have one customer over 10 miles out.   The other  
location has alot of trees in full leaf and it is working great even  
with 15db CPEs.


Both locations are 100% tranzeo, APs and CPEs.  (Actually there is 1  
200mw prism bridge on one, but that is temporary)


Both of those towns are fed mainly with tranzeo PTP links also.  We  
are seeing very good speeds, although customer usage is also very low  
at this point.


We have had both towers deployed since June, without any issues.

Ryan

On Aug 24, 2007, at 3:41 PM, J. Vogel wrote:


I have a couple of the TR-24H-120-16 Product.aspx?Id=61629view=4
antennas in service for a few
months, so far I am very happy with them. They look to be well built
and are performing to expectation. I haven't had them long enough to
give a full recommendation, but so far real good.


Travis Johnson wrote:

Hi,

Anyone have any experience with Tranzeo's TR-24H-120-16
Product.aspx?Id=61629view=4 or TR-24H-120-13 sector antennas?
Product.aspx?Id=61629view=4

thanks,

Travis
Microserv*
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Re: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum

2007-08-24 Thread Tom DeReggi

Good point on hiding identity.
But for a Small Local WISP, it may work to the buyer's benefit to disclose 
they are a small local business looking to invest in the community.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: Forrest W. Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 4:05 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum



Tom DeReggi wrote:
Several times you have suggested using legal council for finding 
licenses.

On the surface that sounds odd to me, just because
Why pay Lawyer rates ($400/hour) to do something that you could pay 
someone ($15 per hour to research for you.).
I don't know what John had in mind, but I will say that it is fairly 
common practice for unsolicited purchase/lease requests like this to be 
handled by outside council, simply to hide the identity of the person 
interested in the purchase or lease until at least interest is expressed 
by the existing owner.


That said, in these cases I expect the background research was not done by 
the lawyer but instead by the $15/hour person, which then would provide 
details to the law firm as to who to potentially contact about the 
lease/purchase.


-forrest


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Re: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum

2007-08-24 Thread Tom DeReggi

Good advice John, thanks.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum


Here is a good example of why I have said to consider talking to legal 
counsel. I recently had a school tell me they had a license available. 
They told me it covered 35 miles around them. This covered nearly all of 
my current and future proposed territory. I was elated. I started 
researching this and almost made an offer. As I often do, I decided to 
consult counsel first. I had Kris Twomey and Steven Coran look into this 
license. What I learned was that even though the license has a 35 mile 
radius, the center point was not the school that was issued the license. 
The center point was a little town nearly 25 miles away from that school. 
This shifted the entire coverage area to not only outside of my coverage 
area, but also to the point that my own home town was not even within 
coverage. This would have been disastrous to me if I had not had counsel 
to research this. I am not saying people cannot do this themselves. The 
point is that I will never be smart enough about all the legal nuances to 
be able to avoid pitfalls. I hire this work done to save me from things 
like this which could literally ruin me. Another issue is that you will 
need to produce a very detailed and legally sound lease agreement to 
access this spectrum. Who will guide you through this process? I just go 
straight to the source and get my attorney to handle these things.

Scriv


Tom DeReggi wrote:

John,

Several times you have suggested using legal council for finding 
licenses.

On the surface that sounds odd to me, just because
Why pay Lawyer rates ($400/hour) to do something that you could pay 
someone ($15 per hour to research for you.).

Research takes time, and that could get expensive at Lawyer rates.
Expecially when there is a high outcome that the results may come back 
unsuccessful.
With that said, I understand there is a expertise involved in any 
specialty task.
What about this task, makes it advantageous or justifyable to use Legal 
Councul for this research?
I'm not challenging your advice, I just want to understand it better, 
since it is outside my expertise currently.
Ar these lawyers already aware of what spectrum might be available to 
accelerate the process (preventing timely research)?
Or is it just needing the Legal expertise to negotiate the aquisition of 
the spectrum?


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 11:12 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum


So Patrick, if an operator has an interest in launching WiMAX using 
BreezeMax will Alvarion help them find and acquire access to a license 
in the market they are looking to launch? I know that is not your area 
of expertise but I also know that other competitive vendors are doing 
just this type of work to help operators get in the game.


If not I know that Kris Twomey and Stephen Coran are both capable of 
helping in this process. I am working on this myself.


It would be nice if an AWS profile were being established for WiMAX 
(since I have a license in this band which NOBODY has done anything with 
yet). I guess it will happen once someone steps up and places a BIG 
order!  :-)

Scriv


Patrick Leary wrote:

 The way, the link to the Secondary Market specific search is:
http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/searchLease.jsp

 Spectrum Lease Search

A new ULS feature to search for spectrum leases, including searches on
fields unique to leasing. The spectrum lease search results page is
standard ULS format with a link to lease details. The spectrum lease
detail page, also standard ULS format, is similar to license detail in
that the lease information is displayed in tabs such as Main, Admin,
Technical Data, and Market.

Patrick Leary
AVP, Market Development
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 1:30 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum

Yes and the FCC site has a specific search feature just for these 
things

and refers to this activity as Secondary Markets.

Patrick Alvarion

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 1:13 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum

Is there a documentation/reporting requirement of 

RE: [WISPA] Remote power Reboot.

2007-08-24 Thread Smith, Rick
http://www.nighthawksystems.com/products.html

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of JohnnyO
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 2:10 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Remote power Reboot.

Aren't there some remote reboot devices that use the paging systems ?
Does 
anyone have links to these ?

JohnnyO
- Original Message - 
From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 12:25 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Remote power Reboot.


I was only aware of the DigitalLogger device at that low a cost point
($89 
+ $39 for autoping.)
 If you find the other one, let us know.
 I believe the The Digital-Logger device does have the ability to allow
you 
 to automate scripting into it. Did you check the FAQ on thier website,
I 
 thought I saw a help file on that.

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message - 
 From: Scottie Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 12:49 AM
 Subject: [WISPA] Remote power Reboot.


 Hi all,

 I am looking for a remote power reboot solution that works with
telnet 
 and/or auto ping for under $100. I know a couple of months ago I
found 
 one googling for about $89, but for the life of me can't find it 
 again(guess I should have bought it then!).

 I only need AC one outlet for this to reboot a cable modem/router. I
can 
 only seem to find Dataprobes stuff, and with a background in
electronics 
 and programming, I have yet to see where the gold is at in this for
$300.

 I found this one http://www.digital-loggers.com/lpc.html but it
doesn't 
 work with telnet according to the email I just received from them. I 
 guess I could just use the auto-ping feature and not have to use
telnet, 
 but the other one I had found did everything I was looking for.

 I have an access server that I can dial into and access my network,
but 
 to reach other gear inside, I have to telnet to them. TIA for any 
 suggestions.

 Scott

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Re: [WISPA] Re: [WISP] Ohio Flooding

2007-08-24 Thread Bo Hamilton
Hey everyone all is well here in ohio.  I got 4 1/2 feet of water in the
basement but other than that all is ok with me.  2 blocks away houses were
swept down the river with water reaching up to 12 feet.  All is ok and
thanks Marlon, Joel, Stewart for the concern.

Bo



On 8/23/07, Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Anything anyone one can do to help?  Is there equipment/manpower that you
 need?

 laters,
 marlon

 - Original Message -
 From: Kurt Fankhauser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 5:55 PM
 Subject: RE: [WISP] Ohio Flooding


 I havn't seen Bo around town any, his basement might be flooded,
  everyone else's is. We got 9 inches of rain in 4 hours and all kinds of
  problems. I got a tower sitting in water with no power. Running on
  generators and batteries. Another tower at a grain facility fried their
  electrical system with no plans to fix it, I went their yesterday
  morning to see why the internet wasn't working and the 3 phase power was
  underwater and smoking the whole place up. Towers are running right now
  but customers got flooded basements with POE's underwater and lightning
  damage, just started to get those calls this afternoon. Roads flooded
  can't get anywhere in any amount of time, traffic is horrible and
  gawking people stopping on the road or trying to run into you.
 
  Kurt Fankhauser
  WAVELINC
  114 S. Walnut St.
  Bucyrus, OH 44820
  419-562-6405
  www.wavelinc.com
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
  Of Stuart Pierce
  Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 1:00 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [WISP] Ohio Flooding
 
  Bo Hamilton, Got your scuba gear on !! How's the wireless doing in the
  flooding ?
 
 
 
 
  
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