Re: [WISPA] Glossary, updated from 6 years ago post
1998 with original Waverider Equipment You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Mike Hammett wrote: Wow, 6.5 years ago... I don't think I was even looking at becoming a WISP then. ;-) --Mike - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 3:21 PM Subject: [WISPA] Glossary, updated from 6 years ago post So I was looking through some old material when I came across this glossary of wireless business related acronyms that WISPs should be familiar with in this space. For the new person, it can be daunting to keep track. I sent to this list 6 1/2 years ago. I though it merited a re-send, with some additions. Deeper concepts are further below. Hope it is helpful and if I missed any key ones, please add. Patrick Leary AVP, Market Development Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Patrick Leary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 8:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Glossary Common abbreviations and/or acronyms... 477: (Form 477) FCC's mandatory broadband reporting form for commercial operators AAA server: authentication authorization accounting server APD: automatic protocol detection AES OCB: usually just called AES, advanced encryption standard offset code book AIFS: arbitration inter-frame spacing AP: access point ARK: automatic retransmission queing ARS: automatic rate switching ASN-GW: access service network gateway ATPC: automatic transmit power control AU: access unit (same as above) BE: best effort BER: bit error rate BRS: Broadband Radio Service (commercial side of the 2.5 GHz allocation in the US) BSS: basic service set BST: base station (referred more often this way in licensed networks) BWA: broadband wireless access BWIA: broadband wireless Internet access (Steve Stroh's preferred acronym) CBR: constant bit rate CC: convolutional coding CDL: cell distance learning (refers to an automatic process within RF devices) CDMA: code division multiple access CG (or UGS): constant grant or unsolicited grant service CIR: committed information rate CoS: class of service CPE: customer premises equipment C/I: carrier to interference ratio CSMA/CA: carrier sense multiple access/collision avoidance EBS: Educational Broadband Spectrum (2.5 GHz allocated to non-profits, may be sublet), formerly ITFS (Instructional Fixed Television Service) DFS: dynamic frequency selection DFS2 or DFS+: second generation DFS (mandated for all new 5.3 and all 5.4 GHz) DIFS: distributed coordination function inter-frame spacing) DS (or DSSS): direct sequence spread spectrum EIRP: effective isotropic radiated power (expressed in dB) EMI: electromagnetic interference ESSID: extended service set ID FCC: Federal Communications Commission FDD: frequency division duplex FEQ: forward error correction FFT: fast fourier transform mathematical algorithm FH (or FHSS): frequency hopping spread spectrum FIPS: federal information processing standards GFSK: Gausian frequency shift keying HIPPA: Healthcare Insurance Portability and Accountability Act IC: Industry Canada (Canadian peer to FCC) IDU: indoor unit IF: intermediate frequency ISM: Industrial, Scientific, and Medical LOS: Line of sight LQI: link quality indicator MAC: media access control MAN: metropolitan area network MIB: management information bit(s) MIR: maximum information rate NLOS: Near/non LOS NMS: network management system NPU: network processing unit OAM: operation, administration maintenance ODU: outdoor unit OET: Office of Engineering and Technology (FCC division responsible for equipment authorization and rules enforcement) OFDM: orthogonal frequency division multiplexing OFDMA: orthogonal frequency division multiple access OBE or OOBE: out-of-band emissions PAN: personal area network Part 15: refers to FCC regulations in Part 15.247 of the Federal Code governing certain UL bands PIU: power interface unit PoE: power over Ethernet PtMP or PmP: point-to-multipoint PtP: Point-to-point QAM: quadrature amplitude modulation QinQ: VLAN type that allows customer to have own VLAN inside the operator's VLAN QoS: quality of service RAN: radio access network RFI: radio frequency interference RSSI: receive(r) signal strength index/indication rtPS: real time polling services RTS/CTS: request to send, clear to send Rx: receive RTCP: real time control protocol RTP: real time protocol SCADA: supervisory control and data acquisition SDR: software defined radio SIF: short inter-frame spacing SIP: session initiation protocol SNR: signal to noise ratio SOFDMA: scalable orthogonal frequency division multiple access STC: space time coding TDD: time division duplex TDMA: time division multiple access TVoIP: TV over IP Tx: transmit UL: offen used to abbreviate unlicensed, but also could mean
RE: [WISPA] Glossary, updated from 6 years ago post
Wow, 6 years ago I was toying with Symbol Spectrum24 FHSS cards and APs, Proxim Rangelan2 and RAylink gear Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 9:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Glossary, updated from 6 years ago post Wow, 6.5 years ago... I don't think I was even looking at becoming a WISP then. ;-) --Mike - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 3:21 PM Subject: [WISPA] Glossary, updated from 6 years ago post So I was looking through some old material when I came across this glossary of wireless business related acronyms that WISPs should be familiar with in this space. For the new person, it can be daunting to keep track. I sent to this list 6 1/2 years ago. I though it merited a re-send, with some additions. Deeper concepts are further below. Hope it is helpful and if I missed any key ones, please add. Patrick Leary AVP, Market Development Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Patrick Leary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 8:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Glossary Common abbreviations and/or acronyms... 477: (Form 477) FCC's mandatory broadband reporting form for commercial operators AAA server: authentication authorization accounting server APD: automatic protocol detection AES OCB: usually just called AES, advanced encryption standard offset code book AIFS: arbitration inter-frame spacing AP: access point ARK: automatic retransmission queing ARS: automatic rate switching ASN-GW: access service network gateway ATPC: automatic transmit power control AU: access unit (same as above) BE: best effort BER: bit error rate BRS: Broadband Radio Service (commercial side of the 2.5 GHz allocation in the US) BSS: basic service set BST: base station (referred more often this way in licensed networks) BWA: broadband wireless access BWIA: broadband wireless Internet access (Steve Stroh's preferred acronym) CBR: constant bit rate CC: convolutional coding CDL: cell distance learning (refers to an automatic process within RF devices) CDMA: code division multiple access CG (or UGS): constant grant or unsolicited grant service CIR: committed information rate CoS: class of service CPE: customer premises equipment C/I: carrier to interference ratio CSMA/CA: carrier sense multiple access/collision avoidance EBS: Educational Broadband Spectrum (2.5 GHz allocated to non-profits, may be sublet), formerly ITFS (Instructional Fixed Television Service) DFS: dynamic frequency selection DFS2 or DFS+: second generation DFS (mandated for all new 5.3 and all 5.4 GHz) DIFS: distributed coordination function inter-frame spacing) DS (or DSSS): direct sequence spread spectrum EIRP: effective isotropic radiated power (expressed in dB) EMI: electromagnetic interference ESSID: extended service set ID FCC: Federal Communications Commission FDD: frequency division duplex FEQ: forward error correction FFT: fast fourier transform mathematical algorithm FH (or FHSS): frequency hopping spread spectrum FIPS: federal information processing standards GFSK: Gausian frequency shift keying HIPPA: Healthcare Insurance Portability and Accountability Act IC: Industry Canada (Canadian peer to FCC) IDU: indoor unit IF: intermediate frequency ISM: Industrial, Scientific, and Medical LOS: Line of sight LQI: link quality indicator MAC: media access control MAN: metropolitan area network MIB: management information bit(s) MIR: maximum information rate NLOS: Near/non LOS NMS: network management system NPU: network processing unit OAM: operation, administration maintenance ODU: outdoor unit OET: Office of Engineering and Technology (FCC division responsible for equipment authorization and rules enforcement) OFDM: orthogonal frequency division multiplexing OFDMA: orthogonal frequency division multiple access OBE or OOBE: out-of-band emissions PAN: personal area network Part 15: refers to FCC regulations in Part 15.247 of the Federal Code governing certain UL bands PIU: power interface unit PoE: power over Ethernet PtMP or PmP: point-to-multipoint PtP: Point-to-point QAM: quadrature amplitude modulation QinQ: VLAN type that allows customer to have own VLAN inside the operator's VLAN QoS: quality of service RAN: radio access network RFI: radio frequency interference RSSI: receive(r) signal strength index/indication rtPS: real time polling services RTS/CTS: request to send, clear to send Rx: receive RTCP: real time control protocol RTP: real time protocol SCADA: supervisory control and data acquisition SDR: software defined radio SIF: short inter-frame spacing SIP: session initiation protocol SNR: signal to noise ratio
Re: [WISPA] Glossary, updated from 6 years ago post
I still have a closet full of RayLink gear I would like to get rid of. Jory Privett WCCS - Original Message - From: Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 9:50 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Glossary, updated from 6 years ago post Wow, 6 years ago I was toying with Symbol Spectrum24 FHSS cards and APs, Proxim Rangelan2 and RAylink gear Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 9:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Glossary, updated from 6 years ago post Wow, 6.5 years ago... I don't think I was even looking at becoming a WISP then. ;-) --Mike - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 3:21 PM Subject: [WISPA] Glossary, updated from 6 years ago post So I was looking through some old material when I came across this glossary of wireless business related acronyms that WISPs should be familiar with in this space. For the new person, it can be daunting to keep track. I sent to this list 6 1/2 years ago. I though it merited a re-send, with some additions. Deeper concepts are further below. Hope it is helpful and if I missed any key ones, please add. Patrick Leary AVP, Market Development Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Patrick Leary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 8:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Glossary Common abbreviations and/or acronyms... 477: (Form 477) FCC's mandatory broadband reporting form for commercial operators AAA server: authentication authorization accounting server APD: automatic protocol detection AES OCB: usually just called AES, advanced encryption standard offset code book AIFS: arbitration inter-frame spacing AP: access point ARK: automatic retransmission queing ARS: automatic rate switching ASN-GW: access service network gateway ATPC: automatic transmit power control AU: access unit (same as above) BE: best effort BER: bit error rate BRS: Broadband Radio Service (commercial side of the 2.5 GHz allocation in the US) BSS: basic service set BST: base station (referred more often this way in licensed networks) BWA: broadband wireless access BWIA: broadband wireless Internet access (Steve Stroh's preferred acronym) CBR: constant bit rate CC: convolutional coding CDL: cell distance learning (refers to an automatic process within RF devices) CDMA: code division multiple access CG (or UGS): constant grant or unsolicited grant service CIR: committed information rate CoS: class of service CPE: customer premises equipment C/I: carrier to interference ratio CSMA/CA: carrier sense multiple access/collision avoidance EBS: Educational Broadband Spectrum (2.5 GHz allocated to non-profits, may be sublet), formerly ITFS (Instructional Fixed Television Service) DFS: dynamic frequency selection DFS2 or DFS+: second generation DFS (mandated for all new 5.3 and all 5.4 GHz) DIFS: distributed coordination function inter-frame spacing) DS (or DSSS): direct sequence spread spectrum EIRP: effective isotropic radiated power (expressed in dB) EMI: electromagnetic interference ESSID: extended service set ID FCC: Federal Communications Commission FDD: frequency division duplex FEQ: forward error correction FFT: fast fourier transform mathematical algorithm FH (or FHSS): frequency hopping spread spectrum FIPS: federal information processing standards GFSK: Gausian frequency shift keying HIPPA: Healthcare Insurance Portability and Accountability Act IC: Industry Canada (Canadian peer to FCC) IDU: indoor unit IF: intermediate frequency ISM: Industrial, Scientific, and Medical LOS: Line of sight LQI: link quality indicator MAC: media access control MAN: metropolitan area network MIB: management information bit(s) MIR: maximum information rate NLOS: Near/non LOS NMS: network management system NPU: network processing unit OAM: operation, administration maintenance ODU: outdoor unit OET: Office of Engineering and Technology (FCC division responsible for equipment authorization and rules enforcement) OFDM: orthogonal frequency division multiplexing OFDMA: orthogonal frequency division multiple access OBE or OOBE: out-of-band emissions PAN: personal area network Part 15: refers to FCC regulations in Part 15.247 of the Federal Code governing certain UL bands PIU: power interface unit PoE: power over Ethernet PtMP or PmP: point-to-multipoint PtP: Point-to-point QAM: quadrature amplitude modulation QinQ: VLAN type that allows customer to have own VLAN inside the operator's VLAN QoS: quality of service RAN: radio access network RFI: radio frequency interference RSSI: receive(r) signal strength index/indication rtPS: real
RE: [WISPA] Glossary, updated from 6 years ago post
Don't tell me you have a Closet full of Manta Ray APs and the Orange USB adapters please don't ... jeje Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jory Privett Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 11:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Glossary, updated from 6 years ago post I still have a closet full of RayLink gear I would like to get rid of. Jory Privett WCCS - Original Message - From: Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 9:50 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Glossary, updated from 6 years ago post Wow, 6 years ago I was toying with Symbol Spectrum24 FHSS cards and APs, Proxim Rangelan2 and RAylink gear Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 9:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Glossary, updated from 6 years ago post Wow, 6.5 years ago... I don't think I was even looking at becoming a WISP then. ;-) --Mike - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 3:21 PM Subject: [WISPA] Glossary, updated from 6 years ago post So I was looking through some old material when I came across this glossary of wireless business related acronyms that WISPs should be familiar with in this space. For the new person, it can be daunting to keep track. I sent to this list 6 1/2 years ago. I though it merited a re-send, with some additions. Deeper concepts are further below. Hope it is helpful and if I missed any key ones, please add. Patrick Leary AVP, Market Development Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Patrick Leary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 8:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Glossary Common abbreviations and/or acronyms... 477: (Form 477) FCC's mandatory broadband reporting form for commercial operators AAA server: authentication authorization accounting server APD: automatic protocol detection AES OCB: usually just called AES, advanced encryption standard offset code book AIFS: arbitration inter-frame spacing AP: access point ARK: automatic retransmission queing ARS: automatic rate switching ASN-GW: access service network gateway ATPC: automatic transmit power control AU: access unit (same as above) BE: best effort BER: bit error rate BRS: Broadband Radio Service (commercial side of the 2.5 GHz allocation in the US) BSS: basic service set BST: base station (referred more often this way in licensed networks) BWA: broadband wireless access BWIA: broadband wireless Internet access (Steve Stroh's preferred acronym) CBR: constant bit rate CC: convolutional coding CDL: cell distance learning (refers to an automatic process within RF devices) CDMA: code division multiple access CG (or UGS): constant grant or unsolicited grant service CIR: committed information rate CoS: class of service CPE: customer premises equipment C/I: carrier to interference ratio CSMA/CA: carrier sense multiple access/collision avoidance EBS: Educational Broadband Spectrum (2.5 GHz allocated to non-profits, may be sublet), formerly ITFS (Instructional Fixed Television Service) DFS: dynamic frequency selection DFS2 or DFS+: second generation DFS (mandated for all new 5.3 and all 5.4 GHz) DIFS: distributed coordination function inter-frame spacing) DS (or DSSS): direct sequence spread spectrum EIRP: effective isotropic radiated power (expressed in dB) EMI: electromagnetic interference ESSID: extended service set ID FCC: Federal Communications Commission FDD: frequency division duplex FEQ: forward error correction FFT: fast fourier transform mathematical algorithm FH (or FHSS): frequency hopping spread spectrum FIPS: federal information processing standards GFSK: Gausian frequency shift keying HIPPA: Healthcare Insurance Portability and Accountability Act IC: Industry Canada (Canadian peer to FCC) IDU: indoor unit IF: intermediate frequency ISM: Industrial, Scientific, and Medical LOS: Line of sight LQI: link quality indicator MAC: media access control MAN: metropolitan area network MIB: management information bit(s) MIR: maximum information rate NLOS: Near/non LOS NMS: network management system NPU: network processing unit OAM: operation, administration maintenance ODU: outdoor unit OET: Office of Engineering and Technology (FCC division responsible for equipment authorization and rules enforcement) OFDM: orthogonal frequency division multiplexing OFDMA: orthogonal frequency division multiple access OBE or OOBE: out-of-band emissions PAN: personal area network Part 15: refers to FCC
Re: [WISPA] Glossary, updated from 6 years ago post
Last week I replaced a 2meg map that has been in service since back in 2000. It, I believe is the last of my 2 meg radios. Gino Villarini wrote: Don't tell me you have a Closet full of Manta Ray APs and the Orange USB adapters please don't ... jeje Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jory Privett Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 11:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Glossary, updated from 6 years ago post I still have a closet full of RayLink gear I would like to get rid of. Jory Privett WCCS - Original Message - From: Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 9:50 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Glossary, updated from 6 years ago post Wow, 6 years ago I was toying with Symbol Spectrum24 FHSS cards and APs, Proxim Rangelan2 and RAylink gear Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 9:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Glossary, updated from 6 years ago post Wow, 6.5 years ago... I don't think I was even looking at becoming a WISP then. ;-) --Mike - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 3:21 PM Subject: [WISPA] Glossary, updated from 6 years ago post So I was looking through some old material when I came across this glossary of wireless business related acronyms that WISPs should be familiar with in this space. For the new person, it can be daunting to keep track. I sent to this list 6 1/2 years ago. I though it merited a re-send, with some additions. Deeper concepts are further below. Hope it is helpful and if I missed any key ones, please add. Patrick Leary AVP, Market Development Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Patrick Leary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 8:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Glossary Common abbreviations and/or acronyms... 477: (Form 477) FCC's mandatory broadband reporting form for commercial operators AAA server: authentication authorization accounting server APD: automatic protocol detection AES OCB: usually just called AES, advanced encryption standard offset code book AIFS: arbitration inter-frame spacing AP: access point ARK: automatic retransmission queing ARS: automatic rate switching ASN-GW: access service network gateway ATPC: automatic transmit power control AU: access unit (same as above) BE: best effort BER: bit error rate BRS: Broadband Radio Service (commercial side of the 2.5 GHz allocation in the US) BSS: basic service set BST: base station (referred more often this way in licensed networks) BWA: broadband wireless access BWIA: broadband wireless Internet access (Steve Stroh's preferred acronym) CBR: constant bit rate CC: convolutional coding CDL: cell distance learning (refers to an automatic process within RF devices) CDMA: code division multiple access CG (or UGS): constant grant or unsolicited grant service CIR: committed information rate CoS: class of service CPE: customer premises equipment C/I: carrier to interference ratio CSMA/CA: carrier sense multiple access/collision avoidance EBS: Educational Broadband Spectrum (2.5 GHz allocated to non-profits, may be sublet), formerly ITFS (Instructional Fixed Television Service) DFS: dynamic frequency selection DFS2 or DFS+: second generation DFS (mandated for all new 5.3 and all 5.4 GHz) DIFS: distributed coordination function inter-frame spacing) DS (or DSSS): direct sequence spread spectrum EIRP: effective isotropic radiated power (expressed in dB) EMI: electromagnetic interference ESSID: extended service set ID FCC: Federal Communications Commission FDD: frequency division duplex FEQ: forward error correction FFT: fast fourier transform mathematical algorithm FH (or FHSS): frequency hopping spread spectrum FIPS: federal information processing standards GFSK: Gausian frequency shift keying HIPPA: Healthcare Insurance Portability and Accountability Act IC: Industry Canada (Canadian peer to FCC) IDU: indoor unit IF: intermediate frequency ISM: Industrial, Scientific, and Medical LOS: Line of sight LQI: link quality indicator MAC: media access control MAN: metropolitan area network MIB: management information bit(s) MIR: maximum information rate NLOS: Near/non LOS NMS: network management system NPU: network processing unit OAM: operation, administration maintenance ODU: outdoor unit OET: Office of Engineering and Technology (FCC division responsible for equipment authorization and rules enforcement) OFDM: orthogonal frequency
RE: [WISPA] Glossary, updated from 6 years ago post
Yes, some of us have been around here a while. There used to be one list back when I made my first post in December of 1999. That was when Jason Simons of Midcoast in Maine was the sage of WISPs. And I remember being there at Mike's first WISPCON when Scriv showed up all wide eyed and chomping at the bit. Now he is out there bidding for licensed spectrum and wearing the leadership mantle along with a number of you. Marlon was of course around -- always has been and probably always will! Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 6:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Glossary, updated from 6 years ago post Wow, 6.5 years ago... I don't think I was even looking at becoming a WISP then. ;-) --Mike - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 3:21 PM Subject: [WISPA] Glossary, updated from 6 years ago post So I was looking through some old material when I came across this glossary of wireless business related acronyms that WISPs should be familiar with in this space. For the new person, it can be daunting to keep track. I sent to this list 6 1/2 years ago. I though it merited a re-send, with some additions. Deeper concepts are further below. Hope it is helpful and if I missed any key ones, please add. Patrick Leary AVP, Market Development Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Patrick Leary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 8:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Glossary Common abbreviations and/or acronyms... 477: (Form 477) FCC's mandatory broadband reporting form for commercial operators AAA server: authentication authorization accounting server APD: automatic protocol detection AES OCB: usually just called AES, advanced encryption standard offset code book AIFS: arbitration inter-frame spacing AP: access point ARK: automatic retransmission queing ARS: automatic rate switching ASN-GW: access service network gateway ATPC: automatic transmit power control AU: access unit (same as above) BE: best effort BER: bit error rate BRS: Broadband Radio Service (commercial side of the 2.5 GHz allocation in the US) BSS: basic service set BST: base station (referred more often this way in licensed networks) BWA: broadband wireless access BWIA: broadband wireless Internet access (Steve Stroh's preferred acronym) CBR: constant bit rate CC: convolutional coding CDL: cell distance learning (refers to an automatic process within RF devices) CDMA: code division multiple access CG (or UGS): constant grant or unsolicited grant service CIR: committed information rate CoS: class of service CPE: customer premises equipment C/I: carrier to interference ratio CSMA/CA: carrier sense multiple access/collision avoidance EBS: Educational Broadband Spectrum (2.5 GHz allocated to non-profits, may be sublet), formerly ITFS (Instructional Fixed Television Service) DFS: dynamic frequency selection DFS2 or DFS+: second generation DFS (mandated for all new 5.3 and all 5.4 GHz) DIFS: distributed coordination function inter-frame spacing) DS (or DSSS): direct sequence spread spectrum EIRP: effective isotropic radiated power (expressed in dB) EMI: electromagnetic interference ESSID: extended service set ID FCC: Federal Communications Commission FDD: frequency division duplex FEQ: forward error correction FFT: fast fourier transform mathematical algorithm FH (or FHSS): frequency hopping spread spectrum FIPS: federal information processing standards GFSK: Gausian frequency shift keying HIPPA: Healthcare Insurance Portability and Accountability Act IC: Industry Canada (Canadian peer to FCC) IDU: indoor unit IF: intermediate frequency ISM: Industrial, Scientific, and Medical LOS: Line of sight LQI: link quality indicator MAC: media access control MAN: metropolitan area network MIB: management information bit(s) MIR: maximum information rate NLOS: Near/non LOS NMS: network management system NPU: network processing unit OAM: operation, administration maintenance ODU: outdoor unit OET: Office of Engineering and Technology (FCC division responsible for equipment authorization and rules enforcement) OFDM: orthogonal frequency division multiplexing OFDMA: orthogonal frequency division multiple access OBE or OOBE: out-of-band emissions PAN: personal area network Part 15: refers to FCC regulations in Part 15.247 of the Federal Code governing certain UL bands PIU: power interface unit PoE: power over Ethernet PtMP or PmP: point-to-multipoint PtP: Point-to-point QAM: quadrature amplitude modulation QinQ: VLAN type that allows customer to have own VLAN inside the operator's VLAN QoS: quality of service RAN: radio access network RFI: radio frequency interference RSSI: receive(r) signal strength index/indication rtPS: real time polling
Re: [WISPA] Glossary, updated from 6 years ago post
Yeah, whether that's a good thing (Marlon being around) or not has yet to be determined. :-p --Mike - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 11:39 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Glossary, updated from 6 years ago post Yes, some of us have been around here a while. There used to be one list back when I made my first post in December of 1999. That was when Jason Simons of Midcoast in Maine was the sage of WISPs. And I remember being there at Mike's first WISPCON when Scriv showed up all wide eyed and chomping at the bit. Now he is out there bidding for licensed spectrum and wearing the leadership mantle along with a number of you. Marlon was of course around -- always has been and probably always will! Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 6:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Glossary, updated from 6 years ago post Wow, 6.5 years ago... I don't think I was even looking at becoming a WISP then. ;-) --Mike - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 3:21 PM Subject: [WISPA] Glossary, updated from 6 years ago post So I was looking through some old material when I came across this glossary of wireless business related acronyms that WISPs should be familiar with in this space. For the new person, it can be daunting to keep track. I sent to this list 6 1/2 years ago. I though it merited a re-send, with some additions. Deeper concepts are further below. Hope it is helpful and if I missed any key ones, please add. Patrick Leary AVP, Market Development Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Patrick Leary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 8:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Glossary Common abbreviations and/or acronyms... 477: (Form 477) FCC's mandatory broadband reporting form for commercial operators AAA server: authentication authorization accounting server APD: automatic protocol detection AES OCB: usually just called AES, advanced encryption standard offset code book AIFS: arbitration inter-frame spacing AP: access point ARK: automatic retransmission queing ARS: automatic rate switching ASN-GW: access service network gateway ATPC: automatic transmit power control AU: access unit (same as above) BE: best effort BER: bit error rate BRS: Broadband Radio Service (commercial side of the 2.5 GHz allocation in the US) BSS: basic service set BST: base station (referred more often this way in licensed networks) BWA: broadband wireless access BWIA: broadband wireless Internet access (Steve Stroh's preferred acronym) CBR: constant bit rate CC: convolutional coding CDL: cell distance learning (refers to an automatic process within RF devices) CDMA: code division multiple access CG (or UGS): constant grant or unsolicited grant service CIR: committed information rate CoS: class of service CPE: customer premises equipment C/I: carrier to interference ratio CSMA/CA: carrier sense multiple access/collision avoidance EBS: Educational Broadband Spectrum (2.5 GHz allocated to non-profits, may be sublet), formerly ITFS (Instructional Fixed Television Service) DFS: dynamic frequency selection DFS2 or DFS+: second generation DFS (mandated for all new 5.3 and all 5.4 GHz) DIFS: distributed coordination function inter-frame spacing) DS (or DSSS): direct sequence spread spectrum EIRP: effective isotropic radiated power (expressed in dB) EMI: electromagnetic interference ESSID: extended service set ID FCC: Federal Communications Commission FDD: frequency division duplex FEQ: forward error correction FFT: fast fourier transform mathematical algorithm FH (or FHSS): frequency hopping spread spectrum FIPS: federal information processing standards GFSK: Gausian frequency shift keying HIPPA: Healthcare Insurance Portability and Accountability Act IC: Industry Canada (Canadian peer to FCC) IDU: indoor unit IF: intermediate frequency ISM: Industrial, Scientific, and Medical LOS: Line of sight LQI: link quality indicator MAC: media access control MAN: metropolitan area network MIB: management information bit(s) MIR: maximum information rate NLOS: Near/non LOS NMS: network management system NPU: network processing unit OAM: operation, administration maintenance ODU: outdoor unit OET: Office of Engineering and Technology (FCC division responsible for equipment authorization and rules enforcement) OFDM: orthogonal frequency division multiplexing OFDMA: orthogonal frequency division multiple access OBE or OOBE: out-of-band emissions PAN: personal area network Part 15: refers to FCC regulations in Part 15.247 of the Federal Code governing certain UL bands PIU: power interface unit PoE: power over Ethernet PtMP or PmP:
[WISPA] AW, BR, ED, and WS
I searched in the ULS for those radio service codes within 30 miles of me. The only returns I had were in ED (schools). Surely there are licenses in my area in the other bands. Xanadoo, Clearwire, Nextel, and Fixed Wireless Holdings own the ED licenses in my area. --Mike ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Glossary, updated from 6 years ago post
See what happens Marlon, when you don't slapdown these anklebiters You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Mike Hammett wrote: Yeah, whether that's a good thing (Marlon being around) or not has yet to be determined. :-p --Mike - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 11:39 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Glossary, updated from 6 years ago post Yes, some of us have been around here a while. There used to be one list back when I made my first post in December of 1999. That was when Jason Simons of Midcoast in Maine was the sage of WISPs. And I remember being there at Mike's first WISPCON when Scriv showed up all wide eyed and chomping at the bit. Now he is out there bidding for licensed spectrum and wearing the leadership mantle along with a number of you. Marlon was of course around -- always has been and probably always will! Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 6:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Glossary, updated from 6 years ago post Wow, 6.5 years ago... I don't think I was even looking at becoming a WISP then. ;-) --Mike - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 3:21 PM Subject: [WISPA] Glossary, updated from 6 years ago post So I was looking through some old material when I came across this glossary of wireless business related acronyms that WISPs should be familiar with in this space. For the new person, it can be daunting to keep track. I sent to this list 6 1/2 years ago. I though it merited a re-send, with some additions. Deeper concepts are further below. Hope it is helpful and if I missed any key ones, please add. Patrick Leary AVP, Market Development Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Patrick Leary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 8:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Glossary Common abbreviations and/or acronyms... 477: (Form 477) FCC's mandatory broadband reporting form for commercial operators AAA server: authentication authorization accounting server APD: automatic protocol detection AES OCB: usually just called AES, advanced encryption standard offset code book AIFS: arbitration inter-frame spacing AP: access point ARK: automatic retransmission queing ARS: automatic rate switching ASN-GW: access service network gateway ATPC: automatic transmit power control AU: access unit (same as above) BE: best effort BER: bit error rate BRS: Broadband Radio Service (commercial side of the 2.5 GHz allocation in the US) BSS: basic service set BST: base station (referred more often this way in licensed networks) BWA: broadband wireless access BWIA: broadband wireless Internet access (Steve Stroh's preferred acronym) CBR: constant bit rate CC: convolutional coding CDL: cell distance learning (refers to an automatic process within RF devices) CDMA: code division multiple access CG (or UGS): constant grant or unsolicited grant service CIR: committed information rate CoS: class of service CPE: customer premises equipment C/I: carrier to interference ratio CSMA/CA: carrier sense multiple access/collision avoidance EBS: Educational Broadband Spectrum (2.5 GHz allocated to non-profits, may be sublet), formerly ITFS (Instructional Fixed Television Service) DFS: dynamic frequency selection DFS2 or DFS+: second generation DFS (mandated for all new 5.3 and all 5.4 GHz) DIFS: distributed coordination function inter-frame spacing) DS (or DSSS): direct sequence spread spectrum EIRP: effective isotropic radiated power (expressed in dB) EMI: electromagnetic interference ESSID: extended service set ID FCC: Federal Communications Commission FDD: frequency division duplex FEQ: forward error correction FFT: fast fourier transform mathematical algorithm FH (or FHSS): frequency hopping spread spectrum FIPS: federal information processing standards GFSK: Gausian frequency shift keying HIPPA: Healthcare Insurance Portability and Accountability Act IC: Industry Canada (Canadian peer to FCC) IDU: indoor unit IF: intermediate frequency ISM: Industrial, Scientific, and Medical LOS: Line of sight LQI: link quality indicator MAC: media access control MAN: metropolitan area network MIB: management information bit(s) MIR: maximum information rate NLOS: Near/non LOS NMS: network management system NPU: network processing unit OAM: operation, administration maintenance ODU: outdoor unit OET: Office of Engineering and Technology (FCC division responsible for equipment authorization and rules enforcement) OFDM: orthogonal frequency division multiplexing OFDMA: orthogonal frequency division
Re: [WISPA] AW, BR, ED, and WS
Never mind. That was just people that leased from someone else. The original holders list is much larger. --Mike - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 12:59 PM Subject: [WISPA] AW, BR, ED, and WS I searched in the ULS for those radio service codes within 30 miles of me. The only returns I had were in ED (schools). Surely there are licenses in my area in the other bands. Xanadoo, Clearwire, Nextel, and Fixed Wireless Holdings own the ED licenses in my area. --Mike ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] OSPF on ROS V3.0
I have tried setting up OSPF in 3 RB333s with ROS 3.0RC1. It doesn't seem to work. I have done the same thing with some 2.9.xx routers without a problem. Does v3.0 not support OSPF, yet? -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration www.nwwnet.net -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration www.nwwnet.net ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] File your FCC form 477
We've got until midnight Friday, right? I don't see any reason to start on this before Friday afternoon. Rick Harnish wrote: Thanks Cliff, I know my secretary has been busting all day to get ours done. I was going to make a post to but you beat me to it. Rick Harnish -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 4:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] File your FCC form 477 Just finished sending in my FCC Form 477... I thought I'd let the list know as a reminder... - Cliff To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [X-FISPA] File your FCC form 477 September 1st of each year: reporting data as of June 30 of the same year. http://www.fcc.gov/broadband/data.html Thank you. Regards, Peter Radizeski RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist We Help ISPs Connect Communicate 813.963.5884 efax 530-323-7025 http://4isps.com --- Round Table with your Peers in Atlanta on Sept. 18 and in NOLA on Oct. 4 Register today at http://www.rad-info.net/roundtable.htm To remove your email address from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put REMOVE in the subject line. ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/977 - Release Date: 8/28/2007 4:29 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/977 - Release Date: 8/28/2007 4:29 PM ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] File your FCC form 477
CW, is that when the boss is returning to get things done for you? :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of cw Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 3:55 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] File your FCC form 477 We've got until midnight Friday, right? I don't see any reason to start on this before Friday afternoon. Rick Harnish wrote: Thanks Cliff, I know my secretary has been busting all day to get ours done. I was going to make a post to but you beat me to it. Rick Harnish -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 4:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] File your FCC form 477 Just finished sending in my FCC Form 477... I thought I'd let the list know as a reminder... - Cliff To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [X-FISPA] File your FCC form 477 September 1st of each year: reporting data as of June 30 of the same year. http://www.fcc.gov/broadband/data.html Thank you. Regards, Peter Radizeski RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist We Help ISPs Connect Communicate 813.963.5884 efax 530-323-7025 http://4isps.com --- Round Table with your Peers in Atlanta on Sept. 18 and in NOLA on Oct. 4 Register today at http://www.rad-info.net/roundtable.htm To remove your email address from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put REMOVE in the subject line. ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/977 - Release Date: 8/28/2007 4:29 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/977 - Release Date: 8/28/2007 4:29 PM ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
[WISPA] DIY Server Questions
Hi Gang!
I'm finally, at long last building my Network Operations Center
and would love to hear recommendations from the brave
souls out there that build their own hardware.
I'm looking for recommendations for motherboards,
rack-mount case vendors, Rack vendors, etc.
I must admit I have a bias against Intel-based systems,
but would defer to experience supporting an Intel platform.
I will in every instance be running on flavor or another of Linux
for all my OS needs, should that have a bearing on the response.
My previous experience favors ASUS motherboards, and
good name-brand memory devices. I have lost faith in most
of the Disc Drive makers, however Shugart's 5 year warranty
is tempting me in their direction.
Any thoughts, comments, etc are welcomed.
If appropriate, you may contact me of list.
Dave Brenton
General Manager
Rural Tennessee Wireless Broadband, LLC
3430 Highway 49
Dover TN 37058
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Re: [WISPA] DIY Server Questions
On Wed, August 29, 2007 4:35 pm, Dave Brenton wrote: I'm finally, at long last building my Network Operations Center and would love to hear recommendations from the brave souls out there that build their own hardware. I've done this, and I've also done the buy a pre-built system thing. The older I get, the more I prefer letting folks that do hardware all the time build the hardware for me. (If you choose to go that route, I recommend eracks.com for your rack-mount needs; reasonably priced, and they'll preinstall your favorite flavor of Linux.) Rackmount gear is especially annoying, especially 1U stuff - way too expensive for what you get. If you only need a few servers, get tower cases and save some money; if you need a lot of servers, get a Fibre Channel NAS and some blades. :) I must admit I have a bias against Intel-based systems, but would defer to experience supporting an Intel platform. I will in every instance be running on flavor or another of Linux for all my OS needs, should that have a bearing on the response. These days, that's not much of a big deal. Aside from some wireless cards (grr mutter whine) most of the stuff you're likely to use in a server will be supported. If you expect to do anything seriously CPU-intensive, these days, Intel's Core 2 line will give you more cycles per dollar than AMD. This could change tomorrow, though. For most common stuff (assuming you're building things like email or Web or RADIUS servers), there's not much practical difference. None of those will be CPU-bound anyway in most cases; RAM and swapping and hard disk speed will be more important. Even then, unless you've already got a base of hundreds of Web sites and thousands of email addresses, modern hardware won't give you any problems. My previous experience favors ASUS motherboards, and good name-brand memory devices. I have lost faith in most of the Disc Drive makers, however Shugart's 5 year warranty is tempting me in their direction. Seagate, you mean? :) No matter what brand of stuff you pick, someone will have anecdotal evidence that it's the worst stuff in the world. Go with whatever's on sale this week. :D David Smith MVN.net ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DIY Server Questions
You can get racks from lots of places. I would check with someplace local
since shipping them can get expensive. For rackmount cases any good PC parts
retailer should have them from 1U up to match any configuration you might
want. I would suggest getting something with a common power supply. Some
of the smaller units have custom ones that are not readily available if it
dies.
I run all of my server on the AMD platform and have for over 7 years now. I
still have a couple of my original servers in production and they still
perform well for their job. Compared against the Intel they perform just
as well and are much cheaper. For Disk drives I would suggest Seagate or
Western Digital, I am not a fan of anything else out there. Asus makes a
good product but so does Gigabyte, MSI, and any other main stream
manufacturer.
For the OS I would run Debian. It is very flexible and secure and has lots
of packages available. It is simple to install BIND for DNS, FreeRadius
for AAA, Freeside for billing, and Cacti for monitoring/graphing and all of
the background apps that are required. FreeBSD and Fedora are also very
popular.
Jory Privett
WCCS
- Original Message -
From: Dave Brenton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 4:35 PM
Subject: [WISPA] DIY Server Questions
Hi Gang!
I'm finally, at long last building my Network Operations Center
and would love to hear recommendations from the brave
souls out there that build their own hardware.
I'm looking for recommendations for motherboards,
rack-mount case vendors, Rack vendors, etc.
I must admit I have a bias against Intel-based systems,
but would defer to experience supporting an Intel platform.
I will in every instance be running on flavor or another of Linux
for all my OS needs, should that have a bearing on the response.
My previous experience favors ASUS motherboards, and
good name-brand memory devices. I have lost faith in most
of the Disc Drive makers, however Shugart's 5 year warranty
is tempting me in their direction.
Any thoughts, comments, etc are welcomed.
If appropriate, you may contact me of list.
Dave Brenton
General Manager
Rural Tennessee Wireless Broadband, LLC
3430 Highway 49
Dover TN 37058
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
931.232.0914 (office)
931.827.4181 (home)
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Re: [WISPA] DIY Server Questions
While I would free comfortable building my own servers (the OS setup is custom). I buy hardware from Dell. Its solid server equipment and very easy to work with. I would recommend checking into buying servers prebuilt. While building your own seems to be cheaper. there are numerous added benefits features that are found by buying prebuilt. I would suggest looking at getting a vendor account with dell, you can gain some discounts. The design of Dells rackmount hardware is terrific. Almost Hot Swap everything, tool-less (quick to replace something if you need to do it as down time), smart systems to handle cooling, remote management cards, and clear upgrade paths. Do not buy 1U imo, its expensive and you only gain 1U and an unupgradeable server. Plan your systems to last 3-5 years. Look at using some virtualization software, in the long run it will be helpful, there are numerous free versions. If you buy rack mount hardware make sure to look at the mounting rails, Dell's rails are the best I have seen. I would suggest buying a square hole rack. they are the most flexible for mounting methods. Remember to look at how you are going to run cables, you will have more than you expect. Don't forget room for backup power / batteries. Find a generator that can be powered by dual fuel (propane / Diesel) If you plan on building a data center to support sell space to business, look at cages. and a method for 24 hour access. Depending on how many servers you are planning on buying, and if you buy from a vendor. See what you can get for free from them. There is a good chapter in Oreilly's Network Warrior about power and cooling planning. As for the OS: 1) centralize the following - Logging (syslog) - Authentication (AAA) - Security (tripwire) 2) Look at putting config files in revision control (will make it easy to reverse changes) 3) Do not make Backup systems an afterthought 4) Design it with two networks (management and external) 5) Document everything, I would suggest having a Ticketing system in place for any change that gets made, nothing gets changed without a Ticket, even if you are the only person that makes changes. 6) Trending, anything that can be monitored, do it. Troubleshooting is much easier if you know what has changed. Debian is by far my favorite choice of distros. FreeBSD/OpenBSD is great for firewalls with pf and carp for redundancy. Ubuntu LTS server for anything I that I need more up to date software. Fedora has Red Hat's Directory Server (with an excellent management interface) Again, Documentation is going to be your best friend Hope that helps, Ryan On Aug 29, 2007, at 6:02 PM, Jory Privett wrote: You can get racks from lots of places. I would check with someplace local since shipping them can get expensive. For rackmount cases any good PC parts retailer should have them from 1U up to match any configuration you might want. I would suggest getting something with a common power supply. Some of the smaller units have custom ones that are not readily available if it dies. I run all of my server on the AMD platform and have for over 7 years now. I still have a couple of my original servers in production and they still perform well for their job. Compared against the Intel they perform just as well and are much cheaper. For Disk drives I would suggest Seagate or Western Digital, I am not a fan of anything else out there. Asus makes a good product but so does Gigabyte, MSI, and any other main stream manufacturer. For the OS I would run Debian. It is very flexible and secure and has lots of packages available. It is simple to install BIND for DNS, FreeRadius for AAA, Freeside for billing, and Cacti for monitoring/graphing and all of the background apps that are required. FreeBSD and Fedora are also very popular. Jory Privett WCCS - Original Message - From: Dave Brenton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 4:35 PM Subject: [WISPA] DIY Server Questions Hi Gang! I'm finally, at long last building my Network Operations Center and would love to hear recommendations from the brave souls out there that build their own hardware. I'm looking for recommendations for motherboards, rack-mount case vendors, Rack vendors, etc. I must admit I have a bias against Intel-based systems, but would defer to experience supporting an Intel platform. I will in every instance be running on flavor or another of Linux for all my OS needs, should that have a bearing on the response. My previous experience favors ASUS motherboards, and good name-brand memory devices. I have lost faith in most of the Disc Drive makers, however Shugart's 5 year warranty is tempting me in their direction. Any thoughts, comments, etc are welcomed. If appropriate, you may contact me of list. Dave Brenton General Manager Rural
Re: [WISPA] DIY Server Questions
A Tyan or SuperMicro would make a better motherboard.
--Mike
- Original Message -
From: Dave Brenton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 4:35 PM
Subject: [WISPA] DIY Server Questions
Hi Gang!
I'm finally, at long last building my Network Operations Center
and would love to hear recommendations from the brave
souls out there that build their own hardware.
I'm looking for recommendations for motherboards,
rack-mount case vendors, Rack vendors, etc.
I must admit I have a bias against Intel-based systems,
but would defer to experience supporting an Intel platform.
I will in every instance be running on flavor or another of Linux
for all my OS needs, should that have a bearing on the response.
My previous experience favors ASUS motherboards, and
good name-brand memory devices. I have lost faith in most
of the Disc Drive makers, however Shugart's 5 year warranty
is tempting me in their direction.
Any thoughts, comments, etc are welcomed.
If appropriate, you may contact me of list.
Dave Brenton
General Manager
Rural Tennessee Wireless Broadband, LLC
3430 Highway 49
Dover TN 37058
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
931.232.0914 (office)
931.827.4181 (home)
931.627.1142 (cell - when not in cell-hell)
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Re: [WISPA] DIY Server Questions
I agree get a server motherboard, both tyan and supermicro make good
server level boards (I prefer supermicro) they come with options for
ipmi management and other excellent features.
Ryan
On Aug 29, 2007, at 9:07 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
A Tyan or SuperMicro would make a better motherboard.
--Mike
- Original Message - From: Dave Brenton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 4:35 PM
Subject: [WISPA] DIY Server Questions
Hi Gang!
I'm finally, at long last building my Network Operations Center
and would love to hear recommendations from the brave
souls out there that build their own hardware.
I'm looking for recommendations for motherboards,
rack-mount case vendors, Rack vendors, etc.
I must admit I have a bias against Intel-based systems,
but would defer to experience supporting an Intel platform.
I will in every instance be running on flavor or another of Linux
for all my OS needs, should that have a bearing on the response.
My previous experience favors ASUS motherboards, and
good name-brand memory devices. I have lost faith in most
of the Disc Drive makers, however Shugart's 5 year warranty
is tempting me in their direction.
Any thoughts, comments, etc are welcomed.
If appropriate, you may contact me of list.
Dave Brenton
General Manager
Rural Tennessee Wireless Broadband, LLC
3430 Highway 49
Dover TN 37058
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
931.232.0914 (office)
931.827.4181 (home)
931.627.1142 (cell - when not in cell-hell)
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RE: [WISPA] DIY Server Questions
We buy SuperMicro systems. They just seem to work. www.8anet.com
www.serversdirect.com www.aberdeeninc.com
We are looking at moving to a Sun or IBM Blade solution also. The biggest
advantage we see is the support, both companies have a full line of parts in
stock about 2hrs away. When uptime is your business, it can make sense to
pay for things like 24x7x365 4hr or less response time. If we were closer to
the parts depot I would even go to 2hr response. This is just something you
do not get when you buy parts from newegg.com. I cannot say enough for a
redundant system either, hot standbys with automatic failover is critical.
Like I said, uptime is your business, right?
Mike Bushard, Jr
Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC
320-256-WISP (9477)
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Behalf Of Ryan Langseth
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 9:51 PM
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I agree get a server motherboard, both tyan and supermicro make good
server level boards (I prefer supermicro) they come with options for
ipmi management and other excellent features.
Ryan
On Aug 29, 2007, at 9:07 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
A Tyan or SuperMicro would make a better motherboard.
--Mike
- Original Message - From: Dave Brenton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 4:35 PM
Subject: [WISPA] DIY Server Questions
Hi Gang!
I'm finally, at long last building my Network Operations Center
and would love to hear recommendations from the brave
souls out there that build their own hardware.
I'm looking for recommendations for motherboards,
rack-mount case vendors, Rack vendors, etc.
I must admit I have a bias against Intel-based systems,
but would defer to experience supporting an Intel platform.
I will in every instance be running on flavor or another of Linux
for all my OS needs, should that have a bearing on the response.
My previous experience favors ASUS motherboards, and
good name-brand memory devices. I have lost faith in most
of the Disc Drive makers, however Shugart's 5 year warranty
is tempting me in their direction.
Any thoughts, comments, etc are welcomed.
If appropriate, you may contact me of list.
Dave Brenton
General Manager
Rural Tennessee Wireless Broadband, LLC
3430 Highway 49
Dover TN 37058
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
931.232.0914 (office)
931.827.4181 (home)
931.627.1142 (cell - when not in cell-hell)
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