RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.

2007-09-06 Thread Ty Carter Lightwave Communications
Scottie: We did a U.S. Cellular repeating solution for a company here in North Carolina. We are authorized partners of Spotwave and were one of the first companies to deploy in North Carolina. The product has been pretty much hands off since day one (almost three years now). The client went

[WISPA] Trango

2007-09-06 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, I am buying any used, working Trango radios (5.3ghz, 5.8ghz, 900mhz, 2.4ghz) that you may want to sell. Please contact me off list. Travis Microserv ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October

Re: [WISPA] Merchant Services

2007-09-06 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Our local bank is set up that way too. All card numbers are stored off site. Not sure if we can send an invoice to them though, they get the notice in their cc statement. marlon - Original Message - From: D. Ryan Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.

2007-09-06 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
I've looked into it. Not done so yet but I keep thinking it would be cool to try something like that with a yagi going back to the main tower and an omni, or even another yagi, for local service. I keep thinking about putting a booster setup like that in my car too. grin I've seen dual band

RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.

2007-09-06 Thread chris cooper
http://www.wi-ex.com/ A kid that works for me used one of these and a 13db yagi. Works great. c ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October

Re: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.

2007-09-06 Thread Junk Mail
Have a look at this link. I think you'll find this to be what you seek. It's very straight forward and non-technical. http://www.mycellularsolutions.com/Inbuilding.html -Mark Williams On Thu, 2007-09-06 at 01:15 -0500, Scottie Arnett wrote: Have any of you guys installed cell phone repeaters

Re: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.

2007-09-06 Thread Blake Bowers
Be prepared... In order to do it legally, there are some hoops to jump through. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is an excellent source for the particulars on the technical AND legal side of this. - Original Message - From: Scottie Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List

[WISPA] Need wireless service

2007-09-06 Thread Blair Davis
I need to find a wireless provider for the following area: Lake Panasoffkee, FL 33538 http://maps.google.com/maps?f=qhl=engeocode=q=6545+West+State+Road+44,+Lake+Panasoffkee,+FL+33538sll=37.0625,-95.677068sspn=60.032659,105.820313ie=UTF8ll=28.847982,-82.21344spn=0.065857,0.10334z=13om=1 We are

RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.

2007-09-06 Thread D. Ryan Spott
I am wondering. If you put in a repeater... can you charge a roaming fee to the provider/subscriber? ryan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ty Carter Lightwave Communications Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 4:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED];

RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.

2007-09-06 Thread D. Ryan Spott
My father-in-law lives in Northern Idaho completely off-grid. He uses this little device for his home phone: http://www.coolproductz.com/ You plug your Cell-phone into it and it becomes a little CO for your home. You plug the device into any of your home phone wires (as long as you are not

RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.

2007-09-06 Thread Ty Carter Lightwave Communications
Thanks Blake.. That is what I was dancing round in my post... there are homegrown yagi from ~$400 but that will not fly on the legal front... Please be aware there are legal implications for unauthorized repeating or broadcasting of a cell providers frequency. And to address Ryans question; NO,

RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.

2007-09-06 Thread Ralph
Amen! But remember the rules don't bother a lot of people on this list. They were written for all the OTHER people. Ralph -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ty Carter Lightwave Communications Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 12:02 PM To:

RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.

2007-09-06 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Oh for the love of Pete! This list _was_ getting useful.. Please subtract 9 billion mod points for the Troll please and send him back to Slashdot or NANOG, his natural environment. Ty, thanks for the quick answer. Things like that make this list _usefull_ and _relevant_ to my work. ryan

RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.

2007-09-06 Thread Ty Carter Lightwave Communications
Glad I could help... I'm not saying you can't do it with some other solution (unlicensed) but you best be prepared for the consequences if the cell provider gets wind of...They have spent millions of dollars in their infrastructure and don't think for one minute they would not haul your company

RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.

2007-09-06 Thread Ralph
Yes, the truth does hurt... Maybe Mikrotik can start making a cell phone repeater to add to the product line. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 12:08 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE:

RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.

2007-09-06 Thread Ty Carter Lightwave Communications
Ralph: While I appreciate your position; and I am all about protecting the spectrum and legalities; you don't have to keep beating this horse to death... Let it go already.. Thanks, Ty Carter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ralph Sent:

Re: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.

2007-09-06 Thread Blair Davis
In my area, there are a lot of people who have phones with external antenna connectors. A lot of them have a 8-13db yagi outside, mounted high, with a cable run and pigtail to connect to their phone. Verzion and Centennial, while not exactly happy about it, do provide the needed info to get

Re: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.

2007-09-06 Thread Mike Hammett
Okay, this guy needs to go... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Ralph [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 11:25 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone

Re: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.

2007-09-06 Thread Mike Hammett
Their tower locations are public knowledge with the FCC. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Ty Carter Lightwave Communications [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, September 06,

RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. (RICK)

2007-09-06 Thread Mac Dearman
Ralph, I think I will forward Harnish your email since it is obvious you are trolling for trouble. My recommendation is going to be to expel you from the list. Mac Dearman -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ralph Sent: Thursday,

RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.

2007-09-06 Thread Mac Dearman
Sorry for the incontinence displayed by Ralph guys. We will maintain a civil list here and will not tolerate trolling for trouble to this degree. Sorry again, Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday,

Re: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.

2007-09-06 Thread Blake Bowers
External antennas are a whole nother ball of wax. The repeaters have bunches of rules to go by. - Original Message - From: Blair Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone

Re: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.

2007-09-06 Thread JohnnyO
Ralph - you need to just learn how to keep your mouth shut sometimes. I don't care if I get banned or not, but your posts and tone towards others on this list has become absolutely annoying. You are responsible for many on this list not posting at all anymore. I don't know who the hell you

Re: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.

2007-09-06 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
Thanks for the useful information about Cell Phone Repeaters. No thanks for the non-related information. This thread is now CLOSED. Any more onlist responses to it will be forwarded to the list moderator and the contributors will be suspended from the list. NEW SUBJECT! Matt Larsen

Re: [WISPA] [Fwd: [wireless]Emerald Incident #57098 for [EMAIL PROTECTED] (1 Wireless Conn)]

2007-09-06 Thread Felix A. Lopez
My recommendation is we should take John Scriv's note with serious and sincerety. I recommend that someone near Barbara give her a customer service inquiry phone call and ask her is their anything that we can do better in the future and how can we get her back. Here is why: The recent big GSA

Re: [WISPA] [Fwd: [wireless]Emerald Incident #57098 for [EMAIL PROTECTED] (1 Wireless Conn)]

2007-09-06 Thread David E. Smith
Felix A. Lopez wrote: My recommendation is we should take John Scriv's note with serious and sincerety. Turns out this is basically a non-issue anyway. The postmaster there very much wanted to keep our service, but was told by the folks above her that the USPS is standardizing on a specific

[WISPA] Feds OK fee for priority Web traffic

2007-09-06 Thread George Rogato
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070906/ap_on_hi_te/internet_fees_justice_department Comments? ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18

Re: [WISPA] Feds OK fee for priority Web traffic

2007-09-06 Thread Jory Privett
: [WISPA] Feds OK fee for priority Web traffic All for it and I think the postal service analogy a good one. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless George Rogato wrote: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070906/ap_on_hi_te/internet_fees_justice_department Comments

Re: [WISPA] Feds OK fee for priority Web traffic

2007-09-06 Thread David E. Smith
Sam Tetherow wrote: All for it and I think the postal service analogy a good one. Not really. With the USPS, there's only one outfit handling your mail: the USPS. An Internet packet can pass through a half-dozen different companies' networks between endpoints. This is the equivalent of your

Re: [WISPA] Feds OK fee for priority Web traffic

2007-09-06 Thread Sam Tetherow
: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070906/ap_on_hi_te/internet_fees_justice_department Comments? ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16

Re: [WISPA] Merchant Services

2007-09-06 Thread Forrest W. Christian
Mike Hammett wrote: I'm speaking to my bank as well as looking at QuickBooks and PayPal for merchant services (CC processing). Opinions? If you are a Costco member, their processing is dirt cheap... If you pay the extra for the premium membership, then it's even better (no statement fees,

Re: [WISPA] Feds OK fee for priority Web traffic

2007-09-06 Thread George Rogato
When I listened to the FTC's Net Neutrality debate, both sides made sense. One side was the content providers and the other side was the connectivity providers. Content didn't want to pay, and connectivity was looking for payment for the use of their network. I just want to know, where do

Re: [WISPA] Merchant Services

2007-09-06 Thread Graham McIntire
I signed up for an authorize.net account via e-online data using powernoc as the referral. I can't stand their product, but they have fantastic rates on the merchant accounts :) https://www.e-onlinedata.com/powernoc Graham On 9/5/07, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm speaking to my

Re: [WISPA] Feds OK fee for priority Web traffic

2007-09-06 Thread Forrest W. Christian
Jory Privett wrote: Be careful what you wish for. What happens when your upstream say that your traffic goes to the bottom of queue unless you pay an extra $x,xxx.xx per moth? Will that make your customers happy? Can you afford an extra charge to make sure that your address space is in

Re: [WISPA] Feds OK fee for priority Web traffic

2007-09-06 Thread Jory Privett
Ok so I pay you the extra to guarantee a certain minimum latency. I if I am connecting to a server on another network how will you provide that? You can not set the QoS for someone else's network much less 3 or 4 of them that my traffic has to cross to get to is final destination. Jory

[WISPA] redline

2007-09-06 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, Does anyone know off the top of their head the maximum power output of the Redline 5.4ghz product? And the receive sensitivity levels? Travis Microserv ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October

Re: [WISPA] redline

2007-09-06 Thread Eric Muehleisen
The maximum transmit power allowed on my units is 18dBm. The receive sensitivity all depends on what UBR your currently at. When I was aiming them I was able to achieve 54mb at -85 ish. This is with 1ft panels going about 1.5 miles. -Eric Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, Does anyone know off the

Re: [WISPA] Feds OK fee for priority Web traffic

2007-09-06 Thread Sam Tetherow
Where is it that people don't think content providers pay? Did I miss something where google is getting a free net connection? Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless George Rogato wrote: When I listened to the FTC's Net Neutrality debate, both sides made sense. One side was the content

RE: [WISPA] Feds OK fee for priority Web traffic

2007-09-06 Thread Scottie Arnett
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 2:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Feds OK fee for priority Web traffic http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070906/ap_on_hi_te/internet_fees_justice_depart ment Comments

RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.

2007-09-06 Thread Scottie Arnett
Wow guys. Didn't mean to cause a rukus. Anyways, thanks to everyone that constructively replied on and off list. The boat dock sits down in a hollow and the reception is terrible. 1 bar in most places if you hold your head just right. Wilson told us how to put our phone in service mode to show

Re: [WISPA] Feds OK fee for priority Web traffic

2007-09-06 Thread Mike Hammett
@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 2:06 PM Subject: [WISPA] Feds OK fee for priority Web traffic http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070906/ap_on_hi_te/internet_fees_justice_department Comments? ** Join us at the WISPA

Re: [WISPA] Feds OK fee for priority Web traffic

2007-09-06 Thread Mike Hammett
So connectivity providers are hurting themselves through competition and are trying to find new ways to make money. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List

RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.

2007-09-06 Thread Rick Harnish
Ralph, I have placed you on moderation. I will approve or disapprove all of your posts to this public list. I expect your cooperation in this matter. By the way, we did make a change to Article 2 of the Code of Ethics this morning in our board meeting in response to your pleas. I'm sure it

Re: [WISPA] redline

2007-09-06 Thread Travis Johnson
I guess that's my question... I have a competitor that is shooting 30 miles with a Redline 2ft panel pair running 5.4ghz. Even using only 10mhz of spectrum, that's only a -83 signal. Just wondering if he's turned up the power somehow to make that shot. Travis Microserv Mike Hammett wrote:

RE: [WISPA] redline

2007-09-06 Thread Gino Villarini
posibly Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 8:39 PM To: WISPA General List Subject:

Re: [WISPA] Feds OK fee for priority Web traffic

2007-09-06 Thread Forrest W. Christian
Jory Privett wrote: Ok so I pay you the extra to guarantee a certain minimum latency. I if I am connecting to a server on another network how will you provide that? You can not set the QoS for someone else's network much less 3 or 4 of them that my traffic has to cross to get to is final

Re: [WISPA] redline

2007-09-06 Thread Mike Hammett
I'd imagine the EIRP is still 30. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 3:52 PM Subject: [WISPA] redline Hi,

[WISPA] Committee Roll Call

2007-09-06 Thread Rick Harnish
I need to document the various committee members for the website. Please respond to HYPERLINK mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] if you are a member of any of the following committees or wish to join one. I would like all responses by Sunday evening. * HYPERLINK