Re: [WISPA] new site install pictures

2008-08-11 Thread Cameron Kilton
What kind of outdoor boxes were you using for the RB units? -Cam -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 11:07 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] new site install pictures Hey guys I just

[WISPA] VOX Partner program?

2008-08-11 Thread Gino Villarini
IIRC, VOX is a Wispa member? Anyone could provide me the contact to signup as a reseller? Thanks Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 WISPA

Re: [WISPA] VoIP deployments?

2008-08-11 Thread Matt Liotta
Fax is a requirement and most certainly can work with VoIP. As we found out T.38 and G711 are mutually exclusive. T.38 is meant to work over G729 as G711 is supposed actually carry faxes successfully. -Matt On Aug 10, 2008, at 9:22 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Fax machines don't run over VoIP

Re: [WISPA] VOX Partner program?

2008-08-11 Thread Joe Fiero
Here you go http://www.voxcorp.net/products_wholesale.shtml -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 8:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] VOX Partner program? IIRC, VOX is a Wispa

Re: [WISPA] VoIP deployments?

2008-08-11 Thread Tom DeReggi
Although I always recommend exploring options WISPA vendor members have, first I'd also suggest looking into a comapny called Targeted Technologies. They use proprietary gear/protocols, but it is a really awesome system. It worked wonderfully in our Beta testing. (although we did not do

Re: [WISPA] VoIP deployments?

2008-08-11 Thread Tom DeReggi
Which do you do successfully? G711 faxing or G729 w/ T.38? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 8:25 AM Subject: Re:

Re: [WISPA] VoIP deployments?

2008-08-11 Thread Matt Liotta
G711 T.38 is a crapshoot. -Matt On Aug 11, 2008, at 11:09 AM, Tom DeReggi wrote: Which do you do successfully? G711 faxing or G729 w/ T.38? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [WISPA] new site install pictures

2008-08-11 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
The enclosures are Hammond Eclipse Junior series. Part # is EJ1084 Wisp-Router carries them I think but they are cheaper at www.alliedelec.com Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[WISPA] HP Buys Colubris

2008-08-11 Thread Jack Unger
Cisco has bought numerous wireless companies over the years. Now HP is buying one, too. jack http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/30929 http://www.crn.com/networking/210001940 -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993 Cisco Press

Re: [WISPA] VOX Partner program?

2008-08-11 Thread John McDowell
My rep is [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 7:42 AM, Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IIRC, VOX is a Wispa member? Anyone could provide me the contact to signup as a reseller? Thanks Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143

Re: [WISPA] HP Buys Colubris

2008-08-11 Thread Mac Dearman
Is this not our old friend Demetrius (Big D) Sirdopolis's (sp?) company?? Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack Unger Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 10:49 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] HP Buys Colubris Cisco

Re: [WISPA] Crossroads Wireless

2008-08-11 Thread D. Ryan Spott
I emailed and was given this website: http://broadbandsearch.sc.egov.usda.gov/SearchTabs.aspx ryan Chuck McCown - 3 wrote: The following link has contact info for all the GFRs. Contact the GFR in your area to see if Crossroads Wireless is trying to get loans or grants to serve areas you

Re: [WISPA] Crossroads Wireless

2008-08-11 Thread D. Ryan Spott
And for those of you that don't want to fill out the form... http://broadbandsearch.sc.egov.usda.gov/SearchResults_ByStateCounty.aspx?stateid=countyid=| Should give you a lovely map. ryan D. Ryan Spott wrote: I emailed and was given this website:

Re: [WISPA] VoIP deployments?

2008-08-11 Thread Mike Hammett
Well, it doesn't run well enough to be a service I'm willing to associate with my company at this point. I've done G.711 and T.38 with many softswitches and many ATAs. It's too finicky. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message

Re: [WISPA] VoIP deployments?

2008-08-11 Thread Matt Liotta
I challenge that. We have made fax over G711 work with piece of crap ATAs and Asterisk. Its the network that matters most. -Matt On Aug 11, 2008, at 2:57 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Well, it doesn't run well enough to be a service I'm willing to associate with my company at this point. I've

Re: [WISPA] ISPbrain.com

2008-08-11 Thread Rogelio
John McDowell wrote: Anyone heard of them? used them? I haven't, but I would like to look into them. Doesn't look like anything you couldn't roll yourself, just a more integrated package: * Subscriber Registration Billing via Online Credit Card Processing * Subscriber Authentication

[WISPA] He knows what we don't... ???

2008-08-11 Thread Jack Unger
Here's a guy who is building a Muni WiMAX network all by himself. http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2008/08/09/3592867.htm Either: a) This gentleman believes he knows a whole lot more than WISPA members know (because very few WISPA members are single-handedly building Muni Wi-MAX networks), or

Re: [WISPA] VoIP deployments?

2008-08-11 Thread Chuck McCown
Let me put it this way: I have a RadioShack store. It's only service is from my WISP. All of its orders are placed and received via fax. Its only phone service is Voip. Finicky? Nope. - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor

2008-08-11 Thread Adam Kennedy
Another 2 cents of mine I took a look at OpenNMS and The Dude. I have been using Nagios since the days of it being called Netsaint. You literally can make Nagios check anything and respond in almost any way to an outage. It's free and open source and I believe really has the capability to

Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor

2008-08-11 Thread Tom DeReggi
Adam, You lsited some Neat/powerful feature ideas, Nagios is capable of. Are you aware if any of the Monitoring solutions support displaying unique info for multiple resellers of the ISP. Meaning... It nice to collect a historical log of uptime or downtime. I'd like my custoemrs to view their

Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor

2008-08-11 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Cacti can do this out of the box. If you use AD or LDAP you can auth against it or use the built in database. Nagios can be perms based as well but it is a lot dirtier. ryan -Original Message- From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 3:56 PM To: WISPA General

Re: [WISPA] He knows what we don't... ???

2008-08-11 Thread Jeff Booher
He should have tried this 2 years ago before it wasn't common knowledge that citywide mesh =! Work Jeff Booher Channel Manager, North America www.apertonet.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24/7: 206-455-4950 This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or

Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor

2008-08-11 Thread canopy
Tom, Take a look at Cacti (www.cacti.net) to do this. It allows you to give create users and only give them access to their data. It can also display 95% usage and total transfer so customers can know what their billing will be. Adam, You lsited some Neat/powerful feature ideas, Nagios is

Re: [WISPA] VoIP deployments?

2008-08-11 Thread Charles Wu
We've been doing VoIP (and FAX) for over 7 years right now and T.38 works great for us (we have guys faxing 80+ pages with no problem) A few things 1. Since we no longer own a WISP (and are bound by a wireless non-compete when we sold several years ago), all of our connections are run over

Re: [WISPA] VoIP deployments?

2008-08-11 Thread Charles Wu
Tom, Bandwidth is generally not the issue with VoIP...it's pps and jitter buffers G.729 is in that 8k / stream range too -Charles Charles Wu President [EMAIL PROTECTED] cell: 773-457-0718 * office: 773-667-4585 x2500 16W235 83rd Street, Suite A, Burr Ridge, IL 60527 * tel: 773.667.4585 fax:

Re: [WISPA] VoIP deployments?

2008-08-11 Thread Charles Wu
Mike, Not trying to sound like a jerk here, but it's not the VoIP...it's your network Properly deployed...VoIP works fine (however, network construction standards are MUCH STRICTER than what most data-only WISP networks currently support) -Charles Charles Wu President [EMAIL PROTECTED] cell:

Re: [WISPA] VoIP Deployments....I'm serious

2008-08-11 Thread Charles Wu
Not sure if we are offering intl. I think we decided to sell them phone cards if they want intl Talk about an interesting world -- I've recently started broadening my horizons, and I'll tell you, it's hard to differentiate a prepaid guys from a pimp (many, actually do both =) Anyone game for

[WISPA] Connect Ohio Program? anyone heard of this

2008-08-11 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Just got done reading an article in my local newspaper here. Apparently there was a meeting here in the county about how we need more broadband options. Funny thing is no one ever called any of the 4 wireless providers in the county here and asked them to attend. And there is a group touring

Re: [WISPA] Connect Ohio Program? anyone heard of this

2008-08-11 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
It's all about grant money Kurt. Somehow, once we actually start fixing these problems they start to forget that we're out there. Wanna have some fun? Call the governor's office and relate these things/stories and see what they have to say. grin marlon - Original Message - From:

Re: [WISPA] Connect Ohio Program? anyone heard of this

2008-08-11 Thread Brian Webster
This sounds more like an awareness and image problem for the local WISP industry. Some of it could be lack of effective marketing. It might be a good idea for every WISP to contact their local/county Planning and economic development offices and introduce themselves, show them the coverage area

[WISPA] FW: Connect Ohio County Meetings

2008-08-11 Thread Rick Harnish
Kurt, Here is an email that was sent to me last month. The ConnectOhio program is modeled after the ConnectKentucky Program which evolved into http://connectednation.org/index.php. My network covers a small portion of NW Ohio and I did notify Gary when I first heard that the program was

Re: [WISPA] FW: Connect Ohio County Meetings

2008-08-11 Thread Rick Harnish
Further Information on Provider Partnerships can be found at http://www.connectohio.org/providers/. Thanks, Rick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 10:22 PM To: 'Kurt Fankhauser'; 'WISPA General

Re: [WISPA] Connect Ohio Program? anyone heard of this

2008-08-11 Thread George Rogato
One of the things I had envisioned when I created the WISPA Promo committee, was just this. Promoting our wisps to the localities and helping reinforce their market position. Problem is, we have not had enough help to get their yet. Our membership isn't all that big, so the volunteer pool is

Re: [WISPA] Connect Ohio Program? anyone heard of this

2008-08-11 Thread Rick Harnish
Or we can contact ConnectedNation.org and work out a partnership between WISPA and CN to help identify where WISPs exist in the USA. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 10:30 PM To: [EMAIL

Re: [WISPA] Connect Ohio Program? anyone heard of this

2008-08-11 Thread Rick Harnish
Kurt, I have reached out to Connected Nation and Connect Ohio to see if they would like to pursue a partnership opportunity with WISPA to better promote our members. I will update you all when I hear something further. Respectfully, Rick Harnish -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

Re: [WISPA] VoIP deployments?

2008-08-11 Thread Jeff Booher
Agreed with everything that charles is saying here. Your network generally needs to support edge device ( cpe ) priortization and QOS that controls the jitter, packetloss, and latency of a given packet. Not many solutions in BWA support this very well. PPS is definitely part of it, but the

Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor

2008-08-11 Thread Tom DeReggi
Thanks guys. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 7:18 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor Tom, Take a look at Cacti

Re: [WISPA] VoIP deployments?

2008-08-11 Thread Tom DeReggi
Yes, but smaller streams tend to be less effected by network congestion and latency, therefore usually less jitter. Provided that their is not a large processing overhead/delays for doing the compression to get the smaller streams at the ATAs and providers PBX Servers. That was the

Re: [WISPA] Connect Ohio Program? anyone heard of this

2008-08-11 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
With this as well as many other issues that WISPA is trying to do, you might look at USTA and OPASTCO as a templates. They do for the small telcos what WISPA is trying to do for us. - Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] He knows what we don't... ???

2008-08-11 Thread ralph
Please elaborate, Jeff. Ralph -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Booher Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 5:27 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] He knows what we don't... ??? He should have tried this 2 years ago before it