Another 2 cents of mine....

I took a look at OpenNMS and The Dude. I have been using Nagios since
the days of it being called "Netsaint". You literally can make Nagios
check anything and respond in almost any way to an outage. It's free and
open source and I believe really has the capability to show what OSS is
all about.

Some things that are extremely cool (and really not hard to implement)
for nagios that are WISP/ISP specific:

- Check various wireless gear signal strengths and compare them to
temperature and fog conditions of weather in that area. Adjust
notifications of lower signals based on that info. (i.e., it's foggy, I
would rather know there is fog than to get alerts of a sudden drop in 50
radios)

- Checking/Notification of BGP peers receiving significantly less routes
than they should

- Access point drops all of it's associated radios. Nagios can try to
"fix" the problem by running a script which would reboot the AP. Didn't
work? Well then it notifies you. It also notifies that it tried
rebooting ;)

Have an idea of something you want implemented? Write a bash script,
perl script or C/C++ app to do it and let nagios have fun. There are
other things like grouping services/checks/hosts etc. by using regular
expressions. All I do is add a device to our network and create a file
with a specific host name in the file and IP address. Nagios takes care
of looking at the name to identify what type of services should be
checked etc.

Really Nagios just gives you ultimate flexibility. I can't seem to find
in OpenNMS where you can identify thresholds for various services. It
only appears that they must match up with a MIB file for results. I also
don't necessarily like that I have to define downtimes in an XML file
with OpenNMS. Nagios I can just click on a host and schedule it right
there. Or for an entire group of hosts. But maybe I missed that in
OpenNMS on accident?

If you want something with Nagios flexibility with a really good web
interface, check out Centreon at www.centreon.com


Adam Kennedy
Senior Network Administrator
Cyberlink Technologies, Inc.
Phone: (888) 293-3693
Fax: (574) 855-5761


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Dennis Burgess
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 11:57 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor

Free is also a good thing.  Alerts and such work great, the kewl part is

the agents.  You can put a remote agent out there ( we use it for 
hotspot networks ), and the agent polls the devices behind the NAT at 
the hotspot location.  Slick as can be, simple, and works! 

Guess I am biased though, seeing I'm one of two MT Dude Consultants.  :)


We have been putting these in quite a bit, takes some time if you start 
building from scratch, but works like a champ!


Tom DeReggi wrote:
> Well,
>
> Very good question, and I only have one answer...
>
> Nagios/Cacti is open source, so it can be adapted to the WISP's
specific 
> need as required.
>
> However, for someone that doesn't want to be a developer, I agree,
Dude is 
> pretty sweet, and much easier to put up and run.
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jim Patient" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 5:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor
>
>
>   
>> I'm having a hard time understanding why yawl just wouldn't use the
>> Dude?  It's FREE, it emails me in the event of an anomaly, sends text
>> msgs, monitors/graphs number of hotspot users, bandwidth, outages,
>> traffic on my links, uptime, or just about anything else you want to
>> look at, log, notify you of, login to, upgrade, or have your wife go
>> fix;-) It even has a nice pretty web interface for your level 1
support
>> crew (daughter or son) to look at.
>>
>> I'm interested in finding out what I would gain by running Nagios or
>> Cacti?  From what I see on this thread, it would take both to do the
job
>> of just one Dude?
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> rabbtux rabbtux wrote:
>>     
>>> I used  the cacti/nagios combo for years, but in Feb I switched to 
>>> OpenNMS.
>>> It was tricky to get setup, and the folks on their IRC were
invaluable! 
>>> Now
>>> it auto scans multiple ip networks and ranges I specify every 4
hours and
>>> sends me a txt msg each time I add customers.  For all the normal
stuff 
>>> it
>>> runs every 5 minutes and produces graphs for not just ping but
'smoke 
>>> ping',
>>> http, dns, ssh, and other commonly discovered ports.  It also
collects a
>>> good bit of snmp data and graphs it.  The time invested and IRC
questions
>>> this last Feb are paying off in a sweet way now.  My system looks at
a
>>> couple hundred interfaces and a total of about a thousand
ports/graphs 
>>> for
>>> the network.  Just My 2 cents worth.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Adam Kennedy 
>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>>>> The Wireless Connections app is actually based on Cricket, not
Cacti.
>>>> Huge difference there...
>>>>
>>>> I have released Alvarion templates for the Cacti system. They are
>>>> available from the Cacti forums at:
>>>> http://forums.cacti.net/viewtopic.php?t=18328
>>>>
>>>> We also run the Nagios/Cacti combo. I have quite a few years of
Nagios
>>>> experience behind me if anyone needs some guidance getting things
going.
>>>> We currently have 631 hosts and 4,382 services being checked every
2
>>>> minutes or so on Nagios with average service check latency of 3.06
>>>> seconds
>>>>
>>>> Yea, it's pretty sweet :P
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Adam Kennedy
>>>> Senior Network Administrator
>>>> Cyberlink Technologies, Inc.
>>>> Phone: 888-293-3693
>>>> Fax: 574-855-5761
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>>>> Behalf Of John Rock
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 11:26 PM
>>>> To: WISPA General List
>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor
>>>>
>>>> Check our free application that initiates Cacti graphs and config
files
>>>> can
>>>> easilly be made and/or updated to adapt to about any SNMP device.
>>>> All we ask is that you buy all your gear from us...
>>>> Kidding of course. The system is a bit dated but we can help adapt
it to
>>>>
>>>> your needs. We also have a free support email list to get your
questions
>>>>
>>>> answered.
>>>>
>>>> Software:
>>>>
http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docman&task=doc_
>>>>
download&gid=23&&Itemid=58<http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?
option=com_docman&task=doc_download&gid=23&&Itemid=58>
>>>>
>>>> RTFM:
>>>>
http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docman&task=doc_
>>>>
download&gid=22&&Itemid=58<http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?
option=com_docman&task=doc_download&gid=22&&Itemid=58>
>>>>
>>>> Copy and paste the entire links if the don't work correctly....
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> John Rock
>>>> Wireless Connections
>>>> Director of Operations - Senior Engineer
>>>> ACCessing the Future Today!!
>>>> ofc. 419.660.6100
>>>> cell 419-706-7356
>>>> fax  419-668-4077
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>>>> To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org>
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>>>> Subject: [WISPA] Network Monitor
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> We are looking for Network monitoring software. We have been using
>>>>>
>>>>>           
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>>>>
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