[WISPA] Fiber\tower huts

2009-04-09 Thread Mike Hammett
Where does one get those sheds you see at cell phone towers and for fiber equipment? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] Atom board form Router

2009-04-09 Thread Gino Villarini
Cpu included ... Or so I think, nice thing is that the gige interfaces are pcie . Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On

Re: [WISPA] need info about wireless and RF power

2009-04-09 Thread Vickie Edwards
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Re: [WISPA] Fiber\tower huts

2009-04-09 Thread Patrick Shoemaker
Equipment shelters? Try: http://www.vfpinc.com/ http://www.shelter1.com/communication.html http://www.thermobond.com/ http://www.precisionquincy.com Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com Mike

[WISPA] Mikrotik RIP Question

2009-04-09 Thread Scott Reed
I have an RB532A running RouterOS 2.9.49 and RIP. All is fine, except I just noticed that one interface keeps getting dropped from the RIP route list. It shows up correctly as a connected route from a minute or so, then it drops off, comes back in a few seconds, repeats. The interface is

Re: [WISPA] Fiber\tower huts

2009-04-09 Thread Blake Bowers
http://www.telepp.com/ Dana. http://www.telecomsurplus.net/index.htm Dave. Tell them we told you to call. They offer some wonderful used units. Metal ones, with heat pump, used, from the old MCI system are probably available from Jay at mid america towers in northern IL.

Re: [WISPA] whats your longest uptime?

2009-04-09 Thread David E. Smith
Travis Johnson wrote: Tower mounted AP = 500+ days. Customer prem switch = 5+ years. Tower router = 321 days Sadly, nothing in my NOC has an uptime past this: mvncsw1 uptime is 2 years, 7 weeks, 8 hours, 43 minutes but that's how long it's been since we moved into our new office. Nice to

Re: [WISPA] Fiber\tower huts

2009-04-09 Thread Mike Hammett
oh certainly. I'm actually working on a project with Jay now. Good guy. Looking for a quote on like 40 of these. :-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com Sent:

Re: [WISPA] whats your longest uptime?

2009-04-09 Thread Travis Johnson
We had a Trango 5830AP that had an uptime of over 578 days just a few days ago... but then we rebooted it. :( Travis Microserv David E. Smith wrote: Travis Johnson wrote: Tower mounted AP = 500+ days. Customer prem switch = 5+ years. Tower router = 321 days Sadly,

Re: [WISPA] Fiber\tower huts

2009-04-09 Thread Blake Bowers
Where were you in 2004 when I had 200 of them for sale Grin.. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] Fiber\tower huts

2009-04-09 Thread Mike Hammett
Here, but I didn't need 1, much less 40 - 50. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 11:02 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] FCC Releases New Rules on 4.9 GHz

2009-04-09 Thread John Scrivner
How is this different than what we already had in 4.9 GHz? Thank you, John Scrivner PS. I would watch the presentation if you can forward me a link. On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Kevin Suitor ksui...@redlinecommunications.com wrote: All, Thought this might be of interest since there

Re: [WISPA] FCC Releases New Rules on 4.9 GHz

2009-04-09 Thread Kevin Suitor
John, a) Primary status assigned for fixed links for both access and backhaul b) Increase of power to Part-15 levels Further changes expected based upon the request for comments: a) coordination rules b) raster / frequency plan allowed Cheers, Kevin -Original Message- From:

Re: [WISPA] whats your longest uptime?

2009-04-09 Thread Tom DeReggi
Yeah, Same boat. Our first 5800 PtMP backhaul was in place for 7 years, and just had two reboot in that period, staying operational all other time. One firmware update, and one power outage. It was amazing how long and reliably they could run. Can't post time though, we just recently replaced

Re: [WISPA] whats your longest uptime?

2009-04-09 Thread Josh Luthman
Why did you reboot it??? On 4/9/09, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: We had a Trango 5830AP that had an uptime of over 578 days just a few days ago... but then we rebooted it. :( Travis Microserv David E. Smith wrote: Travis Johnson wrote: Tower mounted AP = 500+ days. Customer

[WISPA] 10 GigE

2009-04-09 Thread Mike Hammett
Any recommendations for routers that have multiple 10 GigE interfaces? I believe the PowerRouter can only do 3 and I'm looking for at least 4, even up to 8 or 10. I didn't see anything from ImageStream that went that high. I don't need to do 100 Gigs of throughput, but if you need 1 GigE of

Re: [WISPA] 10 GigE

2009-04-09 Thread George Rogato
Question that comes to mind, What size processor or machine is needed to do 10GigE's? Mike Hammett wrote: Any recommendations for routers that have multiple 10 GigE interfaces? I believe the PowerRouter can only do 3 and I'm looking for at least 4, even up to 8 or 10. I didn't see

Re: [WISPA] FCC Releases New Rules on 4.9 GHz

2009-04-09 Thread John McDowell
Kevin, does this mean we could see increased power in some of our 4.9-5.2 Redline backhauls in the future? On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Kevin Suitor ksui...@redlinecommunications.com wrote: John, a) Primary status assigned for fixed links for both access and backhaul b) Increase of

Re: [WISPA] 10 GigE

2009-04-09 Thread Travis Johnson
Ya... I'm not sure an X86 based system is going to handle 10 GigE x 4 you are probably looking at Cisco, etc. where the switching can happen in dedicated hardware rather than software. Travis Microserv George Rogato wrote: Question that comes to mind, What size processor or machine

Re: [WISPA] FCC Releases New Rules on 4.9 GHz

2009-04-09 Thread Kevin Suitor
Yes for 4.9 GHz for Public Safety, it means we are now free to change the keying to match the new regulations. It won't affect the 5.2 GHz UNNI power rules with DFSII. Hope this helps. Kevin -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On

Re: [WISPA] 10 GigE

2009-04-09 Thread Jeff Broadwick
Hi Mike, Depends on packet size. We have 10 Gig cards that we can put in our routers, but we can't run one full out yet. About the best we've seen in the lab is 7 Gigs full duplex, in optimal conditions. Jeff ImageStream -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] 10 GigE

2009-04-09 Thread Tom DeReggi
You aren't going to find any PC based system able to accomplish that. Its because of the Bus speed limits. Also don't plan on doing Bandwdith management on it with connections of dissimlar speed, if selecting X86 type systems because of the clock speed limit. Using NAPI, Quad processor, and

Re: [WISPA] 10 GigE

2009-04-09 Thread Tom DeReggi
And that is not likely an Imagestream specific limit, but a general PC archetecture limit. A lot of high end gear will max out by then or before. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Jeff Broadwick jeffl...@comcast.net To:

Re: [WISPA] 10 GigE

2009-04-09 Thread Jeff Broadwick
Hi Tom, We think we will eventually be able to saturate a 10 Gig link (PCIe), but you aren't going to go much higher than that. Jeff ImageStream -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Thursday, April 09,

Re: [WISPA] FW: 10 GigE

2009-04-09 Thread George Rogato
So what price range are we talking for such an animal? Jeff Broadwick wrote: I don't think this went out to the list: Hey Tom. We just pushed over 7 Gbps full duplex over 18 GigE ports in the lab, so we're fast approaching that 10 GigE mark. With small packets, the same system forwarded

Re: [WISPA] FW: 10 GigE

2009-04-09 Thread Tom DeReggi
JC, Interesting post. So when you look at a 10 GigE number like 7 Gbps, we actually forwarding 7 Gbps full duplex in and out, or a total of 28 Gbps of aggregate traffic. Thats pretty impressive. Considering CPU front side bus, is also a bottle neck point. I'm assuming the 10GB card design

Re: [WISPA] FW: 10 GigE

2009-04-09 Thread Jeff Broadwick
Hi George, It depends on the type of fiber and what all you trick the router out with, but $8-10K would be a good range. Jeff -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 5:57 PM To:

Re: [WISPA] 10 GigE

2009-04-09 Thread Rogelio
Travis Johnson wrote: Ya... I'm not sure an X86 based system is going to handle 10 GigE x 4 you are probably looking at Cisco, etc. where the switching can happen in dedicated hardware rather than software. I'd take a serious look at Juniper. e.g.