[WISPA] LMR Cables
We are having periodic trouble with our LMR connections. We're using 3M 2228 Rubber Mastic tape. Pulled one and it had moisture in it even with a solid wrap. Any suggestions? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] LMR Cables
Coax seal. Problem solved. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 8, 2012 3:39 PM, Carl Shivers cshiv...@aristotle.net wrote: We are having periodic trouble with our LMR connections. We’re using 3M 2228 Rubber Mastic tape. Pulled one and it had moisture in it even with a solid wrap. Any suggestions? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] LMR Cables
http://shop.sealwrap.com/SealWrap-Repair-Tape-SealWrap-TAPE.htm dielectric grease on the threads, then 3m 33 electrical tape Seal wrap 3m 33 On 2/8/2012 3:41 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: 3M 2228 Rubber Mastic tape -- Thanks Greg Osborn Tech Support and Field Service Manager OnlyInternet.Net 1.800.363.0989 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] LMR Cables
http://www.amazon.com/F4-Tape-Self-fusing-Silicone-Black/dp/B002LA2258 I use this stuff and never had a proble. On 2/8/2012 12:39 PM, Carl Shivers wrote: We are having periodic trouble with our LMR connections. We're using 3M 2228 Rubber Mastic tape. Pulled one and it had moisture in it even with a solid wrap. Any suggestions? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] LMR Cables
May depend on where you think the moisture is getting in. I had one installer that was wrapping from the connector down the wire instead of up to the connector. Wrapping up makes it like shingles, even if some gets in it should run down the outside of the next layer. I have also seen gaps at the top where the installer could not see all the way around. I like two layers of Super 33 tape on the sealant, whichever it is. One wrapped clockwise, one counter clockwise. On 2/8/2012 3:39 PM, Carl Shivers wrote: We are having periodic trouble with our LMR connections. We're using 3M 2228 Rubber Mastic tape. Pulled one and it had moisture in it even with a solid wrap. Any suggestions? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2112/4795 - Release Date: 02/07/12 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] LMR Cables
Disclaimer: This was originally stole from Bob Hrbek and modified a bit. If you do this, you will never have a problem with the connector leaking. This is the process we, and the cell companies (and probably anybody that doesn't have water penetration issues uses). Get yourself some 3M electrical tape from Home Depot/Lowes/True Value/Etc. There are two different common models of electrical tape. Super88 and Super33 Don't SKIMP on quality electrical tapeit isn't worth it!!! Use Super33 when it is REALLY cold (below 40* F...that is cold for Vinyl) out and use Super88 all other times. 1) Make sure your connectors and cable surfaces are clean and free from grease and dirt. 2) Wrap double layer of courtesy tape over the connector area and about 2 widths of tape, in both directions beyond your connector and shrink wrap (if any). I usually start at the top with one wrap then flip the tape over sticky side up to go over the connector then flip it back over at the bottom with sticky side down to go back up. This way there is no adhesive on the connector and it can be easily removed. We call it courtesy tape because if you ever have to open the connector againyou'll be thanking the guy that wrapped it up this way :) 3) Get yourself a roll of sealing tape from www.wlan.com X 10 FOOT LENGTH, 3-3/4 wide works well or Mastic from the hardware store. Cut yourself a piece that will wrap around 1 1/2 times. Pull the wax paper off the sticky side and smash it onto your connector and cable. Wrap one end of the mastic around the connector and start pulling the Other side tight and complete the wrap. You should keep some tension on the mastic as you wrap it around the cable. Not enough to stretch it out bad but enough to ensure you have a GOOD solid seal against the under tape/coax. Use your hands to keep working the mastic around the connector until you have a nice looking ball of mastic. Push it against the enclosure to keep water from getting behind the connector. 4) Use the electrical tape to again, double wrap all areas of the mastic and go beyond the edges but make smooth transitions off the mastic to keep any water from making into any airways under the mastic. Be sure to start at the bottom and work up on the last wrap to shingle the water out. Don't stretch the last 3 inches of the electrical tape and break it. This causes it to come loose. Cut it and secure it without pulling. I usually put a wire tie around the end to be sure it doesn't come loose. We have never had an issue with water in a cable or connector when this procedure is used. Jim Patient Link Technologies, Inc. 314-735-0270 x102 http://mywificoverage.com http://mywificoverage.com/ http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Carl Shivers Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 2:40 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] LMR Cables We are having periodic trouble with our LMR connections. We're using 3M 2228 Rubber Mastic tape. Pulled one and it had moisture in it even with a solid wrap. Any suggestions? No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2112/4796 - Release Date: 02/08/12 image001.png WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] LMR Cables
AMEN… to Antennas sucking in the water Ephesians 4:32Cheers!!! A password is like a... toothbrush ;^) Choose a good one, change it regularly and don't share it. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of lakel...@gbcx.net Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 1:58 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] LMR Cables Also don't rule out a bad antenna. I have seen my fair share of cheap antennas sucking water in and draining it out through the connector Bob - Reply message - From: Jim Patient jpati...@linktechs.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] LMR Cables Date: Wed, Feb 8, 2012 4:40 pm Disclaimer: This was originally stole from Bob Hrbek and modified a bit. If you do this, you will never have a problem with the connector leaking. This is the process we, and the cell companies (and probably anybody that doesn't have water penetration issues uses). Get yourself some 3M electrical tape from Home Depot/Lowes/True Value/Etc. There are two different common models of electrical tape. Super88 and Super33 Don't SKIMP on quality electrical tapeit isn't worth it!!! Use Super33 when it is REALLY cold (below 40* F...that is cold for Vinyl) out and use Super88 all other times. 1) Make sure your connectors and cable surfaces are clean and free from grease and dirt. 2) Wrap double layer of courtesy tape over the connector area and about 2 widths of tape, in both directions beyond your connector and shrink wrap (if any). I usually start at the top with one wrap then flip the tape over sticky side up to go over the connector then flip it back over at the bottom with sticky side down to go back up. This way there is no adhesive on the connector and it can be easily removed. We call it courtesy tape because if you ever have to open the connector againyou'll be thanking the guy that wrapped it up this way :) 3) Get yourself a roll of sealing tape from www.wlan.com X 10 FOOT LENGTH, 3-3/4” wide works well or Mastic from the hardware store. Cut yourself a piece that will wrap around 1 1/2 times. Pull the wax paper off the sticky side and smash it onto your connector and cable. Wrap one end of the mastic around the connector and start pulling the Other side tight and complete the wrap. You should keep some tension on the mastic as you wrap it around the cable. Not enough to stretch it out bad but enough to ensure you have a GOOD solid seal against the under tape/coax. Use your hands to keep working the mastic around the connector until you have a nice looking ball of mastic. Push it against the enclosure to keep water from getting behind the connector. 4) Use the electrical tape to again, double wrap all areas of the mastic and go beyond the edges but make smooth transitions off the mastic to keep any water from making into any airways under the mastic. Be sure to start at the bottom and work up on the last wrap to “shingle” the water out. Don’t stretch the last 3 inches of the electrical tape and break it. This causes it to come loose. Cut it and secure it without pulling. I usually put a wire tie around the end to be sure it doesn’t come loose. We have never had an issue with water in a cable or connector when this procedure is used. Jim Patient Link Technologies, Inc. 314-735-0270 x102 http://mywificoverage.com http://mywificoverage.com/ http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Carl Shivers Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 2:40 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] LMR Cables We are having periodic trouble with our LMR connections. We’re using 3M 2228 Rubber Mastic tape.. Pulled one and it had moisture in it even with a solid wrap. Any suggestions? _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0..1913 / Virus Database: 2112/4796 - Release Date: 02/08/12 image001.png WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] LMR Cables
Hi Carl, There were some antennas years back that sweat inside and moisture came out the bottom connector. Some guys drilled weep holes in the bottom of the housing and helped the problem. Rod === - Original Message - From: Carl Shivers cshiv...@aristotle.net To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 3:39 PM Subject: [WISPA] LMR Cables We are having periodic trouble with our LMR connections. We're using 3M 2228 Rubber Mastic tape. Pulled one and it had moisture in it even with a solid wrap. Any suggestions? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] LMR Cables
Big weep holes invite insects. Small holes clog from goo that grows inside in the condensate. The only solution is hermetically sealed enclosures if outside. . . . j o n a t h a n -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rod Shepardson Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 8:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] LMR Cables Hi Carl, There were some antennas years back that sweat inside and moisture came out the bottom connector. Some guys drilled weep holes in the bottom of the housing and helped the problem. Rod === - Original Message - From: Carl Shivers cshiv...@aristotle.net To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 3:39 PM Subject: [WISPA] LMR Cables We are having periodic trouble with our LMR connections. We're using 3M 2228 Rubber Mastic tape. Pulled one and it had moisture in it even with a solid wrap. Any suggestions? -- -- -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Yuma, TX
Anyone know of a service in Yuma TX. Client is a snowbird. Will be there another two months and is generally on site for 3 to 5 months per year. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] LMR Cables
While logical...it is in consistent with best practices...and other successful products in the market place... Faisal On Feb 8, 2012, at 9:29 PM, Jonathan Schmidt jeschm...@jeschmidt.com wrote: Big weep holes invite insects. Small holes clog from goo that grows inside in the condensate. The only solution is hermetically sealed enclosures if outside. . . . j o n a t h a n -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rod Shepardson Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 8:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] LMR Cables Hi Carl, There were some antennas years back that sweat inside and moisture came out the bottom connector. Some guys drilled weep holes in the bottom of the housing and helped the problem. Rod === - Original Message - From: Carl Shivers cshiv...@aristotle.net To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 3:39 PM Subject: [WISPA] LMR Cables We are having periodic trouble with our LMR connections. We're using 3M 2228 Rubber Mastic tape. Pulled one and it had moisture in it even with a solid wrap. Any suggestions? -- -- -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] LMR Cables
True...I didn't say that it could be obtainable. However, every other best practices I have seen, after some years, succumbs to the rot. . . . j o n a t h a n -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 8:38 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] LMR Cables While logical...it is in consistent with best practices...and other successful products in the market place... Faisal On Feb 8, 2012, at 9:29 PM, Jonathan Schmidt jeschm...@jeschmidt.com wrote: Big weep holes invite insects. Small holes clog from goo that grows inside in the condensate. The only solution is hermetically sealed enclosures if outside. . . . j o n a t h a n -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rod Shepardson Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 8:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] LMR Cables Hi Carl, There were some antennas years back that sweat inside and moisture came out the bottom connector. Some guys drilled weep holes in the bottom of the housing and helped the problem. Rod === - Original Message - From: Carl Shivers cshiv...@aristotle.net To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 3:39 PM Subject: [WISPA] LMR Cables We are having periodic trouble with our LMR connections. We're using 3M 2228 Rubber Mastic tape. Pulled one and it had moisture in it even with a solid wrap. Any suggestions? -- -- -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] LMR Cables
That is more likely due to exposure to sunlight and the exposure to the elements...manufacturing practices have changed over the years...now products have a shorter expected by design life expectancy..this is also reflected in the price / cost... Not everything is getting build like Sherman tanks ! Weep holes are necessary..and there is a reasonable size and location for them.. Faisal On Feb 8, 2012, at 9:42 PM, Jonathan Schmidt jeschm...@jeschmidt.com wrote: True...I didn't say that it could be obtainable. However, every other best practices I have seen, after some years, succumbs to the rot. . . . j o n a t h a n -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 8:38 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] LMR Cables While logical...it is in consistent with best practices...and other successful products in the market place... Faisal On Feb 8, 2012, at 9:29 PM, Jonathan Schmidt jeschm...@jeschmidt.com wrote: Big weep holes invite insects. Small holes clog from goo that grows inside in the condensate. The only solution is hermetically sealed enclosures if outside. . . . j o n a t h a n -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rod Shepardson Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 8:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] LMR Cables Hi Carl, There were some antennas years back that sweat inside and moisture came out the bottom connector. Some guys drilled weep holes in the bottom of the housing and helped the problem. Rod === - Original Message - From: Carl Shivers cshiv...@aristotle.net To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 3:39 PM Subject: [WISPA] LMR Cables We are having periodic trouble with our LMR connections. We're using 3M 2228 Rubber Mastic tape. Pulled one and it had moisture in it even with a solid wrap. Any suggestions? -- -- -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] LMR Cables
Faisal, it makes sense. We're closer to the equator than the Sahara and the sun is very, very strong and the nights cool and damp. Perhaps that may have influenced my experience. Thanks, and you're right about the years...my sons are members of the Quarter Century Wireless Association. . . . j o n a t h a n -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 8:55 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] LMR Cables That is more likely due to exposure to sunlight and the exposure to the elements...manufacturing practices have changed over the years...now products have a shorter expected by design life expectancy..this is also reflected in the price / cost... Not everything is getting build like Sherman tanks ! Weep holes are necessary..and there is a reasonable size and location for them.. Faisal On Feb 8, 2012, at 9:42 PM, Jonathan Schmidt jeschm...@jeschmidt.com wrote: True...I didn't say that it could be obtainable. However, every other best practices I have seen, after some years, succumbs to the rot. . . . j o n a t h a n -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 8:38 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] LMR Cables While logical...it is in consistent with best practices...and other successful products in the market place... Faisal On Feb 8, 2012, at 9:29 PM, Jonathan Schmidt jeschm...@jeschmidt.com wrote: Big weep holes invite insects. Small holes clog from goo that grows inside in the condensate. The only solution is hermetically sealed enclosures if outside. . . . j o n a t h a n -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rod Shepardson Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 8:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] LMR Cables Hi Carl, There were some antennas years back that sweat inside and moisture came out the bottom connector. Some guys drilled weep holes in the bottom of the housing and helped the problem. Rod === - Original Message - From: Carl Shivers cshiv...@aristotle.net To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 3:39 PM Subject: [WISPA] LMR Cables We are having periodic trouble with our LMR connections. We're using 3M 2228 Rubber Mastic tape. Pulled one and it had moisture in it even with a solid wrap. Any suggestions? -- -- -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA
Re: [WISPA] LMR Cables
We use thread these into the base of our products. They do a great job and overcome the problems Jonathan outlined: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005OOA7AU/ref=noref?ie=UTF8s=hipsc=1 Tom S. On 2/8/2012 7:08 PM, Jonathan Schmidt wrote: Faisal, it makes sense. We're closer to the equator than the Sahara and the sun is very, very strong and the nights cool and damp. Perhaps that may have influenced my experience. Thanks, and you're right about the years...my sons are members of the Quarter Century Wireless Association. . . . j o n a t h a n -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 8:55 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] LMR Cables That is more likely due to exposure to sunlight and the exposure to the elements...manufacturing practices have changed over the years...now products have a shorter expected by design life expectancy..this is also reflected in the price / cost... Not everything is getting build like Sherman tanks ! Weep holes are necessary..and there is a reasonable size and location for them.. Faisal On Feb 8, 2012, at 9:42 PM, Jonathan Schmidtjeschm...@jeschmidt.com wrote: True...I didn't say that it could be obtainable. However, every other best practices I have seen, after some years, succumbs to the rot. . . . j o n a t h a n -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 8:38 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] LMR Cables While logical...it is in consistent with best practices...and other successful products in the market place... Faisal On Feb 8, 2012, at 9:29 PM, Jonathan Schmidtjeschm...@jeschmidt.com wrote: Big weep holes invite insects. Small holes clog from goo that grows inside in the condensate. The only solution is hermetically sealed enclosures if outside. . . . j o n a t h a n -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rod Shepardson Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 8:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] LMR Cables Hi Carl, There were some antennas years back that sweat inside and moisture came out the bottom connector. Some guys drilled weep holes in the bottom of the housing and helped the problem. Rod === - Original Message - From: Carl Shiverscshiv...@aristotle.net To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 3:39 PM Subject: [WISPA] LMR Cables We are having periodic trouble with our LMR connections. We're using 3M 2228 Rubber Mastic tape. Pulled one and it had moisture in it even with a solid wrap. Any suggestions? -- -- -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Yuma, TX
I can't find Yuma, TX on a map. Do you mean Yuma, AZ? Yuma is in my coverage area. We have a large influx of snowbird customer's whom we service on a month-to-month basis. www.beamspeed.com -- Blake Covarrubias On Feb 8, 2012, at 19:33, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: Anyone know of a service in Yuma TX. Client is a snowbird. Will be there another two months and is generally on site for 3 to 5 months per year. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
