[WISPA] Blocking Torrents

2013-06-03 Thread ~NGL~
Can I block all Torrents using the Ubiquiti ERLite-3 ? Thanx NGL ERLite-3 If you can read this Thank A Teacher. And if it's in English Thank A Soldier! inline: flag.gif___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Blocking Torrents

2013-06-03 Thread Steve Barnes
I am to the point that I believe the only way to block all torrents is to turn the internet off. So many are even using port 80 now. You can do packet inspection and help out if on a MT but not sure on a UBNT. Steve Barnes General Manager PCS-WINhttp://www.rcwifi.com/ Howard LLC From:

Re: [WISPA] Blocking Torrents - Steve

2013-06-03 Thread Josh Reynolds
I agree with Steve. There are tons of ways to obfuscate torrent traffic, and VPN/proxy services are gaining in popularity, which makes the traffic encrypted. -- *Josh Reynolds* WISP Engineering Liaison Performant Networks phone (305) 968-6351 email j...@performantnetworks.com --

Re: [WISPA] Blocking Torrents

2013-06-03 Thread ~NGL~
I am trying to stop or hinder the copyright infringement problem. Anyone have a good answer? NGL From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 11:46 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Blocking Torrents - Steve I agree with Steve. There are tons of ways to obfuscate

Re: [WISPA] Blocking Torrents

2013-06-03 Thread Jim Patient
You can charge them to investigate these complaints. We reply to the letters pointing them to our website with pricing for us to investigate. So far none of them have elected to pay us to find the offender. Not like it’s hard for us because all of our users have public IPs.

Re: [WISPA] Blocking Torrents - Steve

2013-06-03 Thread Jeff Broadwick
From my routing days, I really believe your best bet is to just manage your traffic and deal with out-of-line customers as they come up. There are many legitimate uses for torrents now…plus the whole “reasonable” network management standard that the FCC sorta came up with under net neutrality.

Re: [WISPA] Blocking Torrents

2013-06-03 Thread Chuck Hogg
Curious, has anyone paid yet? Regards, Chuck On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Jim Patient jpati...@linktechs.net wrote: You can charge them to investigate these complaints. We reply to the letters pointing them to our website with pricing for us to investigate. So far none of them have

Re: [WISPA] Blocking Torrents

2013-06-03 Thread Bryce Duchcherer
You don't necessarily need to block torrents. They can be used for legitimate uses, such as Linux distros. One way you can cut down on torrent traffic is to limit the number of connections to clients. That will drastically cut down on the number of torrent connections someone can open, slowing

Re: [WISPA] Blocking Torrents

2013-06-03 Thread Jim Patient
Nope From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 2:49 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Blocking Torrents Curious, has anyone paid yet? Regards, Chuck On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Jim

Re: [WISPA] Blocking Torrents

2013-06-03 Thread Hass, Douglas A.
Jim, Your policy says that it applies to subpoenas, but what about service of DMCA notices without a subpoena attached (such as where a subpoena comes later, or not at all)? Doug Douglas A. Hass Associate 312.786.6502 d...@franczek.com Franczek Radelet P.C. 300 South Wacker Drive Suite

Re: [WISPA] Blocking Torrents

2013-06-03 Thread ~NGL~
Where do I set the limit? In the router or radio? How many? NGL From: Bryce Duchcherer Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 12:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Blocking Torrents You don't necessarily need to block torrents. They can be used for legitimate uses, such as Linux

Re: [WISPA] Blocking Torrents

2013-06-03 Thread timothy steele
Pop a pfsense box in bridge mode to your network get the traffic graph app fire abusive customers or charge them more — Sent from Mailbox for iPhone On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 1:53 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: Can I block all Torrents using the Ubiquiti ERLite-3 ? Thanx NGL ERLite-3 If

Re: [WISPA] Blocking Torrents

2013-06-03 Thread Bryce Duchcherer
You can do it in MikroTik fairly easily. There Is a way to limit connections per subnet, if you limit /32 it will set a limit of x connections for every IP address going through the router. It's hard to say an exact number of connections, it depends what people are doing. For most residential,

Re: [WISPA] Blocking Torrents

2013-06-03 Thread Jim Patient
I just respond to them and tell them we would be happy to investigate the alleged infringement however, there will be a cost incurred for investigation. Pricing for investigating this can be found on http://wifimw.com/civil.asp I have never had any of them respond to it in over 3 years. I

Re: [WISPA] Blocking Torrents

2013-06-03 Thread Justin Wilson
The problem with us isn't the party who initiated the complaint. The upstream providers are getting more and pushy that we need to give them (the backbone provider) a resolution. If not they say it violates the Terms of Service. Cogent is the worst about this. We have actually had them turn us

Re: [WISPA] Blocking Torrents

2013-06-03 Thread James Howard
Do you get notices from your upstream for addresses that aren't in one of their IP blocks? We used to get them from ATT before we got our own IP block but only get them from HBO, Starz, Warner Bros etc now. Haven't ever gotten one from Cogent but haven't had that circuit for even a year yet

Re: [WISPA] Blocking Torrents

2013-06-03 Thread Blair Davis
The key is getting your own IP space. Then the upstream will leave you alone. -- On 6/3/2013 6:24 PM, James Howard wrote: Do you get notices from your upstream for addresses that arent

Re: [WISPA] Blocking Torrents (RE: Justin Wilson)

2013-06-03 Thread Josh Reynolds
So what if your resolution has been to direct them to your DCMA complaints webpage (with clearly defined process), and the requestee has never provided the information required to retrieve the information? There is nothing in the law that says you can't charge 1 million USD per complain request

Re: [WISPA] Blocking Torrents (RE: Justin Wilson)

2013-06-03 Thread Hass, Douglas A.
Well, let's not get carried away. :-) $1 million would certainly exceed the reasonable costs that you incur (and can charge) for compliance with the civil subpoena. Your ability to recover your reasonable cost for a civil subpoena does not come from the DMCA, btw. That is part of the federal

Re: [WISPA] Blocking Torrents (RE: Justin Wilson)

2013-06-03 Thread Josh Reynolds
Yes, I was venting frustration more than anything. I have heard people on the ubnt.com forums discussing their fees for such a lookup. I have never heard of anybody who has charged a lookup fee for DMCA request who has actually be paid / had the requestee go further than the initial email/letter

Re: [WISPA] Blocking Torrents

2013-06-03 Thread Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe
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Re: [WISPA] Blocking Torrents

2013-06-03 Thread Mike Hammett
Does having your own space matter or is it just how its allocated at ARIN? My address space is re-allocated (as should any space greater than /29 and for ISPs) and my company's information is in ARIN, but I still get notices form my upstream. Doesn't make sense. - Mike Hammett