Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box
We use Shireen shielded for both towers and installs. On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Marlon Schafer (509.982.2181) o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: That says gel filled. the other is a dry gel. marlon *From:* Kevin Owen ko...@fsr.com *Sent:* Friday, January 24, 2014 10:28 AM *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box Here is the product I ordered after being pointed there by Scott. *Outdoor CAT5e FTP Shielded - Gel Filled - Outer Jacket - 1000ft Spool* DC-1041 Kevin *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds *Sent:* Friday, January 24, 2014 10:23 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box INTERESTING! I didn't know shireen made a shielded version. That's one reason we've only used the d-gel for very certain things. It's not listed on our primary vendor's site (streakwave). Thanks for the find/info! Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS :: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer :: On 01/24/2014 08:48 AM, Scott Reed wrote: You can get it either way, shielded or not. Compare them here: https://www.shireeninc.com/osc/cables/cat5e.html On 1/24/2014 12:43 PM, Kevin Owen wrote: Marlon, Is the Shireen Dry Gel cable also shielded? Do you have a part/product # for it? Thanks, Kevin *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgwireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Marlon Schafer (509.982.2181) *Sent:* Friday, January 24, 2014 4:42 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box Have you tried the Shireen dry gel? I'm addicted. Stays dry and easy to work with until it gets wet. IF there's a problem that allows liquid into the cable it self seals the hole. Pretty cool stuff. I do wish they had a better packaging system. I really miss the rabbit pull mechanism that my indoor cable uses. marlon *From:* Scott Reed sr...@nwwnet.net *Sent:* Thursday, January 23, 2014 4:31 AM *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box Shireen, unshield, no gel for installations. Shireen, shielded, no gel for towers. On 1/22/2014 9:20 PM, timothy steele wrote: I've used shireen cable I will +1 that's good cable.. I've also heard of guys making there own reusable spindle holder box so you can use same cable for towers and installs so there is that option -- Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox for iPhone On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 9:12 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: UBNT toughcable pro/carrier and/or Shireen is all we use Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS :: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer :: On 01/22/2014 04:30 PM, heith petersen wrote: Just looking for what others are using for boxed cable shielded that simple or easy for customer installs. We use a certain cable now, buts on rolls, which is ideal for towers, but a pain in the ass for installs. I heard UBNT stuff is better, but the partners are upset from the BS from earlier go arounds thanks heith ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3681/7024 - Release Date: 01/22/14 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 Toll-free (855) 231-6239 -- ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3681/7030 - Release Date: 01/24/14 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 Toll-free (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org
[WISPA] Cable Testers
can anybody make any recommendations for cat5/cable testers they have had good luck with? We had good luck with the testum(jdsu) testers but apparently they were discontinued. We are looking at the micromapper from fluke but something with a little more detail might help. Fluke makes bigger brothers to the micromapper but they are a little more than economical. Thanks, Mark Spring Systems Analyst New Knoxville Telephone Company 301 W. South St. New Knoxville, OH 45871 419.753.5000 This message and the file(s) attached are confidential and proprietary information of NKTelco for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any unauthorized review, distribution, disclosure, copying, use, or dissemination, either whole or in part, is strictly prohibited. Do not transmit these documents, in any form, to any third party without the expressed written permission of NKTelco. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Cable Testers
We use the Fluke Microscanner2 as it will allow PoE and will test without the other end being on. You can see cable length, PoE, and if there is a switch/Ethernet at the other end. Eric Rogers Precision Data Solutions, LLC (317) 831-3000 x200 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Spring Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 10:49 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Cable Testers can anybody make any recommendations for cat5/cable testers they have had good luck with? We had good luck with the testum(jdsu) testers but apparently they were discontinued. We are looking at the micromapper from fluke but something with a little more detail might help. Fluke makes bigger brothers to the micromapper but they are a little more than economical. Thanks, Mark Spring Systems Analyst New Knoxville Telephone Company 301 W. South St. New Knoxville, OH 45871 419.753.5000 This message and the file(s) attached are confidential and proprietary information of NKTelco for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any unauthorized review, distribution, disclosure, copying, use, or dissemination, either whole or in part, is strictly prohibited. Do not transmit these documents, in any form, to any third party without the expressed written permission of NKTelco. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Cable Testers
What details are you looking for? I should get a new tester myself. Mark Spring wrote: can anybody make any recommendations for cat5/cable testers they have had good luck with? We had good luck with the testum(jdsu) testers but apparently they were discontinued. We are looking at the micromapper from fluke but something with a little more detail might help. Fluke makes bigger brothers to the micromapper but they are a little more than economical. Thanks, Mark Spring Systems Analyst New Knoxville Telephone Company 301 W. South St. New Knoxville, OH 45871 419.753.5000 This message and the file(s) attached are confidential and proprietary information of NKTelco for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any unauthorized review, distribution, disclosure, copying, use, or dissemination, either whole or in part, is strictly prohibited. Do not transmit these documents, in any form, to any third party without the expressed written permission of NKTelco. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Cable Testers
I use a simple media tester. It checks to make sure all the pairs have continuity. That's it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Mark Spring m...@nktelco.net wrote: basic wire testing, anything more advanced would be a bonus so we are just weighing cost options to see if it would be worth the upgrade to get additional features. Maybe Ubiquiti should develop a meter that replaces the microscanner2(it looks looks nice) for 1/4 the price...i'd wait two years for that! Mark Spring Systems Analyst New Knoxville Telephone Company 301 W. South St. New Knoxville, OH 45871 419.753.5000 This message and the file(s) attached are confidential and proprietary information of NKTelco for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any unauthorized review, distribution, disclosure, copying, use, or dissemination, either whole or in part, is strictly prohibited. Do not transmit these documents, in any form, to any third party without the expressed written permission of NKTelco. On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Jay Weekley par...@cyberbroadband.netwrote: What details are you looking for? I should get a new tester myself. Mark Spring wrote: can anybody make any recommendations for cat5/cable testers they have had good luck with? We had good luck with the testum(jdsu) testers but apparently they were discontinued. We are looking at the micromapper from fluke but something with a little more detail might help. Fluke makes bigger brothers to the micromapper but they are a little more than economical. Thanks, Mark Spring Systems Analyst New Knoxville Telephone Company 301 W. South St. New Knoxville, OH 45871 419.753.5000 This message and the file(s) attached are confidential and proprietary information of NKTelco for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any unauthorized review, distribution, disclosure, copying, use, or dissemination, either whole or in part, is strictly prohibited. Do not transmit these documents, in any form, to any third party without the expressed written permission of NKTelco. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Cable Testers
basic wire testing, anything more advanced would be a bonus so we are just weighing cost options to see if it would be worth the upgrade to get additional features. Maybe Ubiquiti should develop a meter that replaces the microscanner2(it looks looks nice) for 1/4 the price...i'd wait two years for that! Mark Spring Systems Analyst New Knoxville Telephone Company 301 W. South St. New Knoxville, OH 45871 419.753.5000 This message and the file(s) attached are confidential and proprietary information of NKTelco for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any unauthorized review, distribution, disclosure, copying, use, or dissemination, either whole or in part, is strictly prohibited. Do not transmit these documents, in any form, to any third party without the expressed written permission of NKTelco. On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Jay Weekley par...@cyberbroadband.netwrote: What details are you looking for? I should get a new tester myself. Mark Spring wrote: can anybody make any recommendations for cat5/cable testers they have had good luck with? We had good luck with the testum(jdsu) testers but apparently they were discontinued. We are looking at the micromapper from fluke but something with a little more detail might help. Fluke makes bigger brothers to the micromapper but they are a little more than economical. Thanks, Mark Spring Systems Analyst New Knoxville Telephone Company 301 W. South St. New Knoxville, OH 45871 419.753.5000 This message and the file(s) attached are confidential and proprietary information of NKTelco for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any unauthorized review, distribution, disclosure, copying, use, or dissemination, either whole or in part, is strictly prohibited. Do not transmit these documents, in any form, to any third party without the expressed written permission of NKTelco. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box
How many of you are using the tough RJ-45 ends (UBNT) with your shielded cable?— Sent from Mailbox for iPhone On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 10:36 AM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: We use Shireen shielded for both towers and installs. On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Marlon Schafer (509.982.2181) o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: That says gel filled. the other is a dry gel. marlon *From:* Kevin Owen ko...@fsr.com *Sent:* Friday, January 24, 2014 10:28 AM *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box Here is the product I ordered after being pointed there by Scott. *Outdoor CAT5e FTP Shielded - Gel Filled - Outer Jacket - 1000ft Spool* DC-1041 Kevin *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds *Sent:* Friday, January 24, 2014 10:23 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box INTERESTING! I didn't know shireen made a shielded version. That's one reason we've only used the d-gel for very certain things. It's not listed on our primary vendor's site (streakwave). Thanks for the find/info! Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS :: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer :: On 01/24/2014 08:48 AM, Scott Reed wrote: You can get it either way, shielded or not. Compare them here: https://www.shireeninc.com/osc/cables/cat5e.html On 1/24/2014 12:43 PM, Kevin Owen wrote: Marlon, Is the Shireen Dry Gel cable also shielded? Do you have a part/product # for it? Thanks, Kevin *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgwireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Marlon Schafer (509.982.2181) *Sent:* Friday, January 24, 2014 4:42 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box Have you tried the Shireen dry gel? I'm addicted. Stays dry and easy to work with until it gets wet. IF there's a problem that allows liquid into the cable it self seals the hole. Pretty cool stuff. I do wish they had a better packaging system. I really miss the rabbit pull mechanism that my indoor cable uses. marlon *From:* Scott Reed sr...@nwwnet.net *Sent:* Thursday, January 23, 2014 4:31 AM *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box Shireen, unshield, no gel for installations. Shireen, shielded, no gel for towers. On 1/22/2014 9:20 PM, timothy steele wrote: I've used shireen cable I will +1 that's good cable.. I've also heard of guys making there own reusable spindle holder box so you can use same cable for towers and installs so there is that option -- Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox for iPhone On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 9:12 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: UBNT toughcable pro/carrier and/or Shireen is all we use Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS :: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer :: On 01/22/2014 04:30 PM, heith petersen wrote: Just looking for what others are using for boxed cable shielded that simple or easy for customer installs. We use a certain cable now, buts on rolls, which is ideal for towers, but a pain in the ass for installs. I heard UBNT stuff is better, but the partners are upset from the BS from earlier go arounds thanks heith ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3681/7024 - Release Date: 01/22/14 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 Toll-free (855) 231-6239 -- ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3681/7030 - Release Date: 01/24/14 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 Toll-free (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box
Me Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 11:35 AM, timothy steele timothy.pct...@gmail.comwrote: How many of you are using the tough RJ-45 ends (UBNT) with your shielded cable? -- Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox for iPhone On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 10:36 AM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: We use Shireen shielded for both towers and installs. On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Marlon Schafer (509.982.2181) o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: That says gel filled. the other is a dry gel. marlon *From:* Kevin Owen ko...@fsr.com *Sent:* Friday, January 24, 2014 10:28 AM *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box Here is the product I ordered after being pointed there by Scott. *Outdoor CAT5e FTP Shielded - Gel Filled - Outer Jacket - 1000ft Spool* DC-1041 Kevin *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds *Sent:* Friday, January 24, 2014 10:23 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box INTERESTING! I didn't know shireen made a shielded version. That's one reason we've only used the d-gel for very certain things. It's not listed on our primary vendor's site (streakwave). Thanks for the find/info! Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS :: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer :: On 01/24/2014 08:48 AM, Scott Reed wrote: You can get it either way, shielded or not. Compare them here: https://www.shireeninc.com/osc/cables/cat5e.html On 1/24/2014 12:43 PM, Kevin Owen wrote: Marlon, Is the Shireen Dry Gel cable also shielded? Do you have a part/product # for it? Thanks, Kevin *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgwireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Marlon Schafer (509.982.2181) *Sent:* Friday, January 24, 2014 4:42 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box Have you tried the Shireen dry gel? I'm addicted. Stays dry and easy to work with until it gets wet. IF there's a problem that allows liquid into the cable it self seals the hole. Pretty cool stuff. I do wish they had a better packaging system. I really miss the rabbit pull mechanism that my indoor cable uses. marlon *From:* Scott Reed sr...@nwwnet.net *Sent:* Thursday, January 23, 2014 4:31 AM *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box Shireen, unshield, no gel for installations. Shireen, shielded, no gel for towers. On 1/22/2014 9:20 PM, timothy steele wrote: I've used shireen cable I will +1 that's good cable.. I've also heard of guys making there own reusable spindle holder box so you can use same cable for towers and installs so there is that option -- Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox for iPhone On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 9:12 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: UBNT toughcable pro/carrier and/or Shireen is all we use Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS :: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer :: On 01/22/2014 04:30 PM, heith petersen wrote: Just looking for what others are using for boxed cable shielded that simple or easy for customer installs. We use a certain cable now, buts on rolls, which is ideal for towers, but a pain in the ass for installs. I heard UBNT stuff is better, but the partners are upset from the BS from earlier go arounds thanks heith ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3681/7024 - Release Date: 01/22/14 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 Toll-free (855) 231-6239 -- ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3681/7030 - Release Date: 01/24/14 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and
Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box
We do too On Jan 28, 2014, at 10:35 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Me Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 11:35 AM, timothy steele timothy.pct...@gmail.com wrote: How many of you are using the tough RJ-45 ends (UBNT) with your shielded cable? — Sent from Mailbox for iPhone On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 10:36 AM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: We use Shireen shielded for both towers and installs. On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Marlon Schafer (509.982.2181) o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: That says gel filled. the other is a dry “gel”. marlon From: Kevin Owen Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 10:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box Here is the product I ordered after being pointed there by Scott. Outdoor CAT5e FTP Shielded - Gel Filled - Outer Jacket - 1000ft Spool DC-1041 Kevin From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 10:23 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box INTERESTING! I didn't know shireen made a shielded version. That's one reason we've only used the d-gel for very certain things. It's not listed on our primary vendor's site (streakwave). Thanks for the find/info! Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS :: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer :: On 01/24/2014 08:48 AM, Scott Reed wrote: You can get it either way, shielded or not. Compare them here: https://www.shireeninc.com/osc/cables/cat5e.html On 1/24/2014 12:43 PM, Kevin Owen wrote: Marlon, Is the Shireen Dry Gel cable also shielded? Do you have a part/product # for it? Thanks, Kevin From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon Schafer (509.982.2181) Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 4:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box Have you tried the Shireen dry gel? I’m addicted. Stays dry and easy to work with until it gets wet. IF there’s a problem that allows liquid into the cable it self seals the hole. Pretty cool stuff. I do wish they had a better packaging system. I really miss the “rabbit pull” mechanism that my indoor cable uses. marlon From: Scott Reed Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 4:31 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box Shireen, unshield, no gel for installations. Shireen, shielded, no gel for towers. On 1/22/2014 9:20 PM, timothy steele wrote: I've used shireen cable I will +1 that's good cable.. I've also heard of guys making there own reusable spindle holder box so you can use same cable for towers and installs so there is that option — Sent from Mailbox for iPhone On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 9:12 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: UBNT toughcable pro/carrier and/or Shireen is all we use Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS :: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer :: On 01/22/2014 04:30 PM, heith petersen wrote: Just looking for what others are using for boxed cable shielded that simple or easy for customer installs. We use a certain cable now, buts on rolls, which is ideal for towers, but a pain in the ass for installs. I heard UBNT stuff is better, but the partners are upset from the BS from earlier go arounds thanks heith ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3681/7024 - Release Date: 01/22/14 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 Toll-free (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3681/7030 - Release Date: 01/24/14 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration
Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box
I hope bringing the price down on the tough RJ-45's will be a topic from UBNT at AF— Sent from Mailbox for iPhone On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 12:46 PM, Dan Petermann d...@wyoming.com wrote: We do too On Jan 28, 2014, at 10:35 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Me Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 11:35 AM, timothy steele timothy.pct...@gmail.com wrote: How many of you are using the tough RJ-45 ends (UBNT) with your shielded cable? — Sent from Mailbox for iPhone On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 10:36 AM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: We use Shireen shielded for both towers and installs. On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Marlon Schafer (509.982.2181) o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: That says gel filled. the other is a dry “gel”. marlon From: Kevin Owen Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 10:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box Here is the product I ordered after being pointed there by Scott. Outdoor CAT5e FTP Shielded - Gel Filled - Outer Jacket - 1000ft Spool DC-1041 Kevin From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 10:23 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box INTERESTING! I didn't know shireen made a shielded version. That's one reason we've only used the d-gel for very certain things. It's not listed on our primary vendor's site (streakwave). Thanks for the find/info! Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS :: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer :: On 01/24/2014 08:48 AM, Scott Reed wrote: You can get it either way, shielded or not. Compare them here: https://www.shireeninc.com/osc/cables/cat5e.html On 1/24/2014 12:43 PM, Kevin Owen wrote: Marlon, Is the Shireen Dry Gel cable also shielded? Do you have a part/product # for it? Thanks, Kevin From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon Schafer (509.982.2181) Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 4:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box Have you tried the Shireen dry gel? I’m addicted. Stays dry and easy to work with until it gets wet. IF there’s a problem that allows liquid into the cable it self seals the hole. Pretty cool stuff. I do wish they had a better packaging system. I really miss the “rabbit pull” mechanism that my indoor cable uses. marlon From: Scott Reed Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 4:31 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box Shireen, unshield, no gel for installations. Shireen, shielded, no gel for towers. On 1/22/2014 9:20 PM, timothy steele wrote: I've used shireen cable I will +1 that's good cable.. I've also heard of guys making there own reusable spindle holder box so you can use same cable for towers and installs so there is that option — Sent from Mailbox for iPhone On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 9:12 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: UBNT toughcable pro/carrier and/or Shireen is all we use Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS :: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer :: On 01/22/2014 04:30 PM, heith petersen wrote: Just looking for what others are using for boxed cable shielded that simple or easy for customer installs. We use a certain cable now, buts on rolls, which is ideal for towers, but a pain in the ass for installs. I heard UBNT stuff is better, but the partners are upset from the BS from earlier go arounds thanks heith ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3681/7024 - Release Date: 01/22/14 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 Toll-free (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version:
Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box
I don’t see them bringing the price down. With the ease of the tab they are worth it. Try to find another good quality shielded cat5e end for $.45 each. Steve Barnes General Manager PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of timothy steele Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 1:48 PM To: WISPA General List Cc: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box I hope bringing the price down on the tough RJ-45's will be a topic from UBNT at AF — Sent from Mailboxhttps://www.dropbox.com/mailbox for iPhone On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 12:46 PM, Dan Petermann d...@wyoming.commailto:d...@wyoming.com wrote: We do too On Jan 28, 2014, at 10:35 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Me Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 11:35 AM, timothy steele timothy.pct...@gmail.commailto:timothy.pct...@gmail.com wrote: How many of you are using the tough RJ-45 ends (UBNT) with your shielded cable? — Sent from Mailboxhttps://www.dropbox.com/mailbox for iPhone On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 10:36 AM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.commailto:jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: We use Shireen shielded for both towers and installs. On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Marlon Schafer (509.982.2181tel:%28509.982.2181) o...@odessaoffice.commailto:o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: That says gel filled. the other is a dry “gel”. marlon From: Kevin Owenmailto:ko...@fsr.com Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 10:28 AM To: WISPA General Listmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box Here is the product I ordered after being pointed there by Scott. [https://www.shireeninc.com/osc/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/50x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/d/c/dc-1041_2.gif] Outdoor CAT5e FTP Shielded - Gel Filled - Outer Jacket - 1000ft Spool DC-1041 Kevin From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 10:23 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box INTERESTING! I didn't know shireen made a shielded version. That's one reason we've only used the d-gel for very certain things. It's not listed on our primary vendor's site (streakwave). Thanks for the find/info! Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS :: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer :: On 01/24/2014 08:48 AM, Scott Reed wrote: You can get it either way, shielded or not. Compare them here: https://www.shireeninc.com/osc/cables/cat5e.html On 1/24/2014 12:43 PM, Kevin Owen wrote: Marlon, Is the Shireen Dry Gel cable also shielded? Do you have a part/product # for it? Thanks, Kevin From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon Schafer (509.982.2181tel:%28509.982.2181) Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 4:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box Have you tried the Shireen dry gel? I’m addicted. Stays dry and easy to work with until it gets wet. IF there’s a problem that allows liquid into the cable it self seals the hole. Pretty cool stuff. I do wish they had a better packaging system. I really miss the “rabbit pull” mechanism that my indoor cable uses. marlon From: Scott Reedmailto:sr...@nwwnet.net Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 4:31 AM To: WISPA General Listmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box Shireen, unshield, no gel for installations. Shireen, shielded, no gel for towers. On 1/22/2014 9:20 PM, timothy steele wrote: I've used shireen cable I will +1 that's good cable.. I've also heard of guys making there own reusable spindle holder box so you can use same cable for towers and installs so there is that option — Sent from Mailboxhttps://www.dropbox.com/mailbox for iPhone On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 9:12 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.commailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote: UBNT toughcable pro/carrier and/or Shireen is all we use Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS :: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer :: On 01/22/2014 04:30 PM, heith petersen wrote: Just looking for what others are using for boxed cable shielded that simple or easy for customer installs. We use a certain cable now, buts on rolls, which is ideal for towers, but a pain in the ass for installs. I heard UBNT stuff is better, but the partners are upset from the BS from earlier go arounds thanks heith ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.orgmailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___
Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box
I do, with Shireen or Tough Cable. Tommie Dodd Tnet Broadband Internet, LLC Lakeview, Oregon - 541-947- Alturas, California - 530-233-4000 Toll free - 855-477- May you always have love to share, health to spare, and friends that care. On 1/28/2014 8:35 AM, timothy steele wrote: How many of you are using the tough RJ-45 ends (UBNT) with your shielded cable? --- Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox for iPhone On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 10:36 AM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com mailto:jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: We use Shireen shielded for both towers and installs. On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Marlon Schafer (509.982.2181) o...@odessaoffice.com mailto:o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: That says gel filled. the other is a dry gel. marlon *From:* Kevin Owen mailto:ko...@fsr.com *Sent:* Friday, January 24, 2014 10:28 AM *To:* WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box Here is the product I ordered after being pointed there by Scott. *Outdoor CAT5e FTP Shielded - Gel Filled - Outer Jacket - 1000ft Spool* DC-1041 Kevin *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds *Sent:* Friday, January 24, 2014 10:23 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box INTERESTING! I didn't know shireen made a shielded version. That's one reason we've only used the d-gel for very certain things. It's not listed on our primary vendor's site (streakwave). Thanks for the find/info! Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS :: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer :: On 01/24/2014 08:48 AM, Scott Reed wrote: You can get it either way, shielded or not. Compare them here:https://www.shireeninc.com/osc/cables/cat5e.html On 1/24/2014 12:43 PM, Kevin Owen wrote: Marlon, Is the Shireen Dry Gel cable also shielded? Do you have a part/product # for it? Thanks, Kevin *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Marlon Schafer (509.982.2181 tel:%28509.982.2181) *Sent:* Friday, January 24, 2014 4:42 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box Have you tried the Shireen dry gel? I'm addicted. Stays dry and easy to work with until it gets wet. IF there's a problem that allows liquid into the cable it self seals the hole. Pretty cool stuff. I do wish they had a better packaging system. I really miss the rabbit pull mechanism that my indoor cable uses. marlon *From:*Scott Reed mailto:sr...@nwwnet.net *Sent:*Thursday, January 23, 2014 4:31 AM *To:*WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Subject:*Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box Shireen, unshield, no gel for installations. Shireen, shielded, no gel for towers. On 1/22/2014 9:20 PM, timothy steele wrote: I've used shireen cable I will +1 that's good cable.. I've also heard of guys making there own reusable spindle holder box so you can use same cable for towers and installs so there is that option --- Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox for iPhone On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 9:12 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote: UBNT toughcable pro/carrier and/or Shireen is all we use Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS :: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer :: On 01/22/2014 04:30 PM, heith petersen wrote: Just looking for what others are using for boxed cable shielded that simple or easy for customer installs. We use a certain cable now, buts on rolls, which is ideal
[WISPA] Outlet toner for cat5/6 and/or Coax
I'm looking for something similar to this (just other options): http://www.homedepot.com/p/Klein-Tools-VDV-Scout-Pro-Tester-Kit-VDV501-809/202520422?quantity=1 If it works with coax (RG-6) too, that's fine but not required. I used to use something similar back in my satellite tv days, and thought it would be really nice to have for some of our indoor wiring jobs. Warning: If it says Fluke on it, I probably won't buy it. I respect their quality, but we don't want to spend 250+ per device for these. -- Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS :: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer :: ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Outlet toner for cat5/6 and/or Coax
Are you just wanting a simple tester?http://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=N82E1687005 — Sent from Mailbox for iPhone On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 3:09 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: I'm looking for something similar to this (just other options): http://www.homedepot.com/p/Klein-Tools-VDV-Scout-Pro-Tester-Kit-VDV501-809/202520422?quantity=1 If it works with coax (RG-6) too, that's fine but not required. I used to use something similar back in my satellite tv days, and thought it would be really nice to have for some of our indoor wiring jobs. Warning: If it says Fluke on it, I probably won't buy it. I respect their quality, but we don't want to spend 250+ per device for these. -- Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS :: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer :: ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Outlet toner for cat5/6 and/or Coax
Did you actually look at the link? :) No, I'm not looking for a generalized tester. I'm looking for a device with multiple numbered/colored rj45 plugs. You take the plugs and plug them into outlets, then take the tester to the patch panel. When you plug in the tester to each port on the patch panel, it tells you what numbered/colored plug is on the other end. Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS :: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer :: On 01/28/2014 11:24 AM, timothy steele wrote: Are you just wanting a simple tester? http://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=N82E1687005 --- Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox for iPhone On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 3:09 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote: I'm looking for something similar to this (just other options): http://www.homedepot.com/p/Klein-Tools-VDV-Scout-Pro-Tester-Kit-VDV501-809/202520422?quantity=1 If it works with coax (RG-6) too, that's fine but not required. I used to use something similar back in my satellite tv days, and thought it would be really nice to have for some of our indoor wiring jobs. Warning: If it says Fluke on it, I probably won't buy it. I respect their quality, but we don't want to spend 250+ per device for these. -- Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS :: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer :: ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Outlet toner for cat5/6 and/or Coax
Doesn't do rg6 but Ethernet cable with distance to break is a lifesaver: http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=105cp_id=10524cs_id=1052401p_id=8128seq=1format=2 ryan On Jan 28, 2014, at 12:24 PM, timothy steele timothy.pct...@gmail.com wrote: Are you just wanting a simple tester? http://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=N82E1687005 — Sent from Mailbox for iPhone On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 3:09 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: I'm looking for something similar to this (just other options): http://www.homedepot.com/p/Klein-Tools-VDV-Scout-Pro-Tester-Kit-VDV501-809/202520422?quantity=1 If it works with coax (RG-6) too, that's fine but not required. I used to use something similar back in my satellite tv days, and thought it would be really nice to have for some of our indoor wiring jobs. Warning: If it says Fluke on it, I probably won't buy it. I respect their quality, but we don't want to spend 250+ per device for these. -- Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS :: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer :: ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Outlet toner for cat5/6 and/or Coax
That's not at all what I'm talking about. That's just a tester, not a multi-room toner. Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS :: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer :: On 01/28/2014 11:31 AM, Ryan Spott wrote: Doesn't do rg6 but Ethernet cable with distance to break is a lifesaver: http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=105cp_id=10524cs_id=1052401p_id=8128seq=1format=2 ryan On Jan 28, 2014, at 12:24 PM, timothy steele timothy.pct...@gmail.com mailto:timothy.pct...@gmail.com wrote: Are you just wanting a simple tester? http://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=N82E1687005 --- Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox for iPhone On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 3:09 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote: I'm looking for something similar to this (just other options): http://www.homedepot.com/p/Klein-Tools-VDV-Scout-Pro-Tester-Kit-VDV501-809/202520422?quantity=1 If it works with coax (RG-6) too, that's fine but not required. I used to use something similar back in my satellite tv days, and thought it would be really nice to have for some of our indoor wiring jobs. Warning: If it says Fluke on it, I probably won't buy it. I respect their quality, but we don't want to spend 250+ per device for these. -- Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS :: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer :: ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Outlet toner for cat5/6 and/or Coax
I bought this from Amazon earlier this year. Works well enough. Same as you are looking at just more plugs I believe. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006JUYPKQ/ref=wms_ohs_product?ie=UTF8psc=1 I also use this for anything else wireline wise. It's the best toner I have ever used. Well worth it. http://www.amazon.com/Fluke-Networks-MT-8200-50A-IntelliTone-100/dp/B0001FSCRW/ref=sr_1_32?s=industrialie=UTF8qid=1390941141sr=1-32keywords=fluke At some point I will be moving to this kit and hand down the above gear to our techs. More wishful thinking though J http://www.amazon.com/Fluke-Networks-MS2-KIT-MicroScanner2-Professional/dp/B000QJ6S06/ref=pd_sim_indust_99 Regards, Chris Ruschmann *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds *Sent:* Tuesday, January 28, 2014 11:27 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Outlet toner for cat5/6 and/or Coax Did you actually look at the link? :) No, I'm not looking for a generalized tester. I'm looking for a device with multiple numbered/colored rj45 plugs. You take the plugs and plug them into outlets, then take the tester to the patch panel. When you plug in the tester to each port on the patch panel, it tells you what numbered/colored plug is on the other end. Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS :: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer :: On 01/28/2014 11:24 AM, timothy steele wrote: Are you just wanting a simple tester? http://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=N82E1687005 -- Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox for iPhone On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 3:09 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: I'm looking for something similar to this (just other options): http://www.homedepot.com/p/Klein-Tools-VDV-Scout-Pro-Tester-Kit-VDV501-809/202520422?quantity=1 If it works with coax (RG-6) too, that's fine but not required. I used to use something similar back in my satellite tv days, and thought it would be really nice to have for some of our indoor wiring jobs. Warning: If it says Fluke on it, I probably won't buy it. I respect their quality, but we don't want to spend 250+ per device for these. -- Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS :: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer :: ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Outlet toner for cat5/6 and/or Coax
josh, the testum unit by jdsu had a model like this(TP600) but didn't do coax. I don't want to oversimplify this, but I can't imagine why there aren't more people making units like this...even the ones with more identifiers, I can't imagine that any of these components are that expensive especially when building them in bulk Mark Spring Systems Analyst New Knoxville Telephone Company 301 W. South St. New Knoxville, OH 45871 419.753.5000 This message and the file(s) attached are confidential and proprietary information of NKTelco for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any unauthorized review, distribution, disclosure, copying, use, or dissemination, either whole or in part, is strictly prohibited. Do not transmit these documents, in any form, to any third party without the expressed written permission of NKTelco. On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: That's not at all what I'm talking about. That's just a tester, not a multi-room toner. Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS :: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer :: On 01/28/2014 11:31 AM, Ryan Spott wrote: Doesn't do rg6 but Ethernet cable with distance to break is a lifesaver: http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=105cp_id=10524cs_id=1052401p_id=8128seq=1format=2 ryan On Jan 28, 2014, at 12:24 PM, timothy steele timothy.pct...@gmail.com wrote: Are you just wanting a simple tester? http://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=N82E1687005 -- Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox for iPhone On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 3:09 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.comwrote: I'm looking for something similar to this (just other options): http://www.homedepot.com/p/Klein-Tools-VDV-Scout-Pro-Tester-Kit-VDV501-809/202520422?quantity=1 If it works with coax (RG-6) too, that's fine but not required. I used to use something similar back in my satellite tv days, and thought it would be really nice to have for some of our indoor wiring jobs. Warning: If it says Fluke on it, I probably won't buy it. I respect their quality, but we don't want to spend 250+ per device for these. -- Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS :: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer :: ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing listWireless@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Outlet toner for cat5/6 and/or Coax
I agree. They should be relatively cheap to make. I found the one I used to use for satellite/coax installs here: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coax-Locator-Cable-Mapper-Identifier-Tester-CL500-T3-Inovation/151207593771?rt=nc_trksid=p2047675.m1851_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D19841%26meid%3D4443111505221948349%26pid%3D15%26prg%3D8934%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D5%26sd%3D221173371074%26 The Klein unit Chris posted was a larger version of the one I was looking at. I like Klein tools, I was just trying to see if anybody made a better unit with more integrated tests without the Fluke price. Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS :: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer :: On 01/28/2014 11:35 AM, Mark Spring wrote: josh, the testum unit by jdsu had a model like this(TP600) but didn't do coax. I don't want to oversimplify this, but I can't imagine why there aren't more people making units like this...even the ones with more identifiers, I can't imagine that any of these components are that expensive especially when building them in bulk Mark Spring Systems Analyst New Knoxville Telephone Company 301 W. South St. New Knoxville, OH 45871 419.753.5000 This message and the file(s) attached are confidential and proprietary information of NKTelco for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any unauthorized review, distribution, disclosure, copying, use, or dissemination, either whole or in part, is strictly prohibited. Do not transmit these documents, in any form, to any third party without the expressed written permission of NKTelco. On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote: That's not at all what I'm talking about. That's just a tester, not a multi-room toner. Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS :: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer :: On 01/28/2014 11:31 AM, Ryan Spott wrote: Doesn't do rg6 but Ethernet cable with distance to break is a lifesaver: http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=105cp_id=10524cs_id=1052401p_id=8128seq=1format=2 ryan On Jan 28, 2014, at 12:24 PM, timothy steele timothy.pct...@gmail.com mailto:timothy.pct...@gmail.com wrote: Are you just wanting a simple tester? http://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=N82E1687005 --- Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox for iPhone On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 3:09 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote: I'm looking for something similar to this (just other options): http://www.homedepot.com/p/Klein-Tools-VDV-Scout-Pro-Tester-Kit-VDV501-809/202520422?quantity=1 If it works with coax (RG-6) too, that's fine but not required. I used to use something similar back in my satellite tv days, and thought it would be really nice to have for some of our indoor wiring jobs. Warning: If it says Fluke on it, I probably won't buy it. I respect their quality, but we don't want to spend 250+ per device for these. -- Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS :: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer :: ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Outlet toner for cat5/6 and/or Coax
JDSU makes or made several units. The one I have has 8 number blocks to search for. Does cable length, correct pair wiring, tones and some other stuff. It is in the truck which is a the repair shop so I can not give you the model number. Search Test-Um On 1/28/2014 3:35 PM, Mark Spring wrote: josh, the testum unit by jdsu had a model like this(TP600) but didn't do coax. I don't want to oversimplify this, but I can't imagine why there aren't more people making units like this...even the ones with more identifiers, I can't imagine that any of these components are that expensive especially when building them in bulk Mark Spring Systems Analyst New Knoxville Telephone Company 301 W. South St. New Knoxville, OH 45871 419.753.5000 This message and the file(s) attached are confidential and proprietary information of NKTelco for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any unauthorized review, distribution, disclosure, copying, use, or dissemination, either whole or in part, is strictly prohibited. Do not transmit these documents, in any form, to any third party without the expressed written permission of NKTelco. On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote: That's not at all what I'm talking about. That's just a tester, not a multi-room toner. Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS :: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer :: On 01/28/2014 11:31 AM, Ryan Spott wrote: Doesn't do rg6 but Ethernet cable with distance to break is a lifesaver: http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=105cp_id=10524cs_id=1052401p_id=8128seq=1format=2 ryan On Jan 28, 2014, at 12:24 PM, timothy steele timothy.pct...@gmail.com mailto:timothy.pct...@gmail.com wrote: Are you just wanting a simple tester? http://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=N82E1687005 --- Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox for iPhone On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 3:09 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote: I'm looking for something similar to this (just other options): http://www.homedepot.com/p/Klein-Tools-VDV-Scout-Pro-Tester-Kit-VDV501-809/202520422?quantity=1 If it works with coax (RG-6) too, that's fine but not required. I used to use something similar back in my satellite tv days, and thought it would be really nice to have for some of our indoor wiring jobs. Warning: If it says Fluke on it, I probably won't buy it. I respect their quality, but we don't want to spend 250+ per device for these. -- Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS :: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer :: ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3681/7039 - Release Date: 01/28/14 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 Toll-free (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Cable Testers
If you are not looking to certify cable or for anything fancy, to check continuity, wire map, and cable length . Search of SC8108 on ebay These are in-expensive and get the job done. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net - Original Message - From: Mark Spring m...@nktelco.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 11:11:41 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cable Testers basic wire testing, anything more advanced would be a bonus so we are just weighing cost options to see if it would be worth the upgrade to get additional features. Maybe Ubiquiti should develop a meter that replaces the microscanner2(it looks looks nice) for 1/4 the price...i'd wait two years for that! Mark Spring Systems Analyst New Knoxville Telephone Company 301 W. South St. New Knoxville, OH 45871 419.753.5000 This message and the file(s) attached are confidential and proprietary information of NKTelco for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any unauthorized review, distribution, disclosure, copying, use, or dissemination, either whole or in part, is strictly prohibited. Do not transmit these documents, in any form, to any third party without the expressed written permission of NKTelco. On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Jay Weekley par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: What details are you looking for? I should get a new tester myself. Mark Spring wrote: can anybody make any recommendations for cat5/cable testers they have had good luck with? We had good luck with the testum(jdsu) testers but apparently they were discontinued. We are looking at the micromapper from fluke but something with a little more detail might help. Fluke makes bigger brothers to the micromapper but they are a little more than economical. Thanks, Mark Spring Systems Analyst New Knoxville Telephone Company 301 W. South St. New Knoxville, OH 45871 419.753.5000 This message and the file(s) attached are confidential and proprietary information of NKTelco for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any unauthorized review, distribution, disclosure, copying, use, or dissemination, either whole or in part, is strictly prohibited. Do not transmit these documents, in any form, to any third party without the expressed written permission of NKTelco. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Outlet toner for cat5/6 and/or Coax
What is the problem with the Klein tester ? If it does what you need, for $80 that is great. Why are you looking for options ? is there something the Klein tester not do ? Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net - Original Message - From: Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 3:09:22 PM Subject: [WISPA] Outlet toner for cat5/6 and/or Coax I'm looking for something similar to this (just other options): http://www.homedepot.com/p/Klein-Tools-VDV-Scout-Pro-Tester-Kit-VDV501-809/202520422?quantity=1 If it works with coax (RG-6) too, that's fine but not required. I used to use something similar back in my satellite tv days, and thought it would be really nice to have for some of our indoor wiring jobs. Warning: If it says Fluke on it, I probably won't buy it. I respect their quality, but we don't want to spend 250+ per device for these. -- Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS :: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer :: ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Dynamic Spectrum Brokarage?
this proves the FCC needs to do a better job. this would be like a commodity market for BLM grazing rights for sheep and cattle. We all own the spectrum, if the FCC has issued you a license for an area then you should have to use it or loose it. I certainly don't think you should be able to sell it on a commodity market. plus the markets usually throw a monkey wrench into the system and the value of the commodity is no longer based on the commodity but on what investors *think* is the value. i.e. the price of a barrel of oil has virtually *nothing* to do with the supply or demand of oil, it's all what commodity traders think it's value is. that's why we have weird spikes in gas prices, demand didn't just increase (gasoline is not really price elastic, meaning people will buy almost the same amount no matter the price because thats how much gas it takes for them to drive to work, the grocery store, the bank, the bar etc.). 2 cents On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 6:22 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Interesting concept: http://www.cnbc.com/id/101362152? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Outlet toner for cat5/6 and/or Coax
I was just trying to get options and see if anybody in the WISP field had used something similar that they had good results with. Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS :: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer :: On 01/28/2014 02:31 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: What is the problem with the Klein tester ? If it does what you need, for $80 that is great. Why are you looking for options ? is there something the Klein tester not do ? Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net - Original Message - From: Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 3:09:22 PM Subject: [WISPA] Outlet toner for cat5/6 and/or Coax I'm looking for something similar to this (just other options): http://www.homedepot.com/p/Klein-Tools-VDV-Scout-Pro-Tester-Kit-VDV501-809/202520422?quantity=1 If it works with coax (RG-6) too, that's fine but not required. I used to use something similar back in my satellite tv days, and thought it would be really nice to have for some of our indoor wiring jobs. Warning: If it says Fluke on it, I probably won't buy it. I respect their quality, but we don't want to spend 250+ per device for these. -- Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS :: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer :: ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Dynamic Spectrum Brokarage?
Rivada Networks, a U.S. communications technology company, announced on Thursday it had obtained a patent for its bandwidth trading platform. I don't think they know the difference between the USPTO and the FCC. On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 7:22 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Interesting concept: http://www.cnbc.com/id/101362152? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box
With all the talk about these cables, I havent had any sales guys call me. Where are you guys finding the stuff? From: Tommie Dodd Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 1:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box I do, with Shireen or Tough Cable. Tommie Dodd Tnet Broadband Internet, LLC Lakeview, Oregon - 541-947- Alturas, California - 530-233-4000 Toll free - 855-477- May you always have love to share, health to spare, and friends that care.On 1/28/2014 8:35 AM, timothy steele wrote: How many of you are using the tough RJ-45 ends (UBNT) with your shielded cable? — Sent from Mailbox for iPhone On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 10:36 AM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: We use Shireen shielded for both towers and installs. On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Marlon Schafer (509.982.2181) o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: That says gel filled. the other is a dry “gel”. marlon From: Kevin Owen Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 10:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box Here is the product I ordered after being pointed there by Scott. Outdoor CAT5e FTP Shielded - Gel Filled - Outer Jacket - 1000ft Spool DC-1041 Kevin From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 10:23 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box INTERESTING! I didn't know shireen made a shielded version. That's one reason we've only used the d-gel for very certain things. It's not listed on our primary vendor's site (streakwave). Thanks for the find/info! Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS :: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer :: On 01/24/2014 08:48 AM, Scott Reed wrote: You can get it either way, shielded or not. Compare them here: https://www.shireeninc.com/osc/cables/cat5e.html On 1/24/2014 12:43 PM, Kevin Owen wrote: Marlon, Is the Shireen Dry Gel cable also shielded? Do you have a part/product # for it? Thanks, Kevin From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon Schafer (509.982.2181) Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 4:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box Have you tried the Shireen dry gel? I’m addicted. Stays dry and easy to work with until it gets wet. IF there’s a problem that allows liquid into the cable it self seals the hole. Pretty cool stuff. I do wish they had a better packaging system. I really miss the “rabbit pull” mechanism that my indoor cable uses. marlon From: Scott Reed Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 4:31 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box Shireen, unshield, no gel for installations. Shireen, shielded, no gel for towers. On 1/22/2014 9:20 PM, timothy steele wrote: I've used shireen cable I will +1 that's good cable.. I've also heard of guys making there own reusable spindle holder box so you can use same cable for towers and installs so there is that option — Sent from Mailbox for iPhone On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 9:12 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: UBNT toughcable pro/carrier and/or Shireen is all we use Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS :: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer :: On 01/22/2014 04:30 PM, heith petersen wrote: Just looking for what others are using for boxed cable shielded that simple or easy for customer installs. We use a certain cable now, buts on rolls, which is ideal for towers, but a pain in the ass for installs. I heard UBNT stuff is better, but the partners are upset from the BS from earlier go arounds thanks heith ___Wireless mailing listWireless@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___Wireless mailing listWireless@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3681/7024 - Release Date: 01/22/14 -- Scott ReedOwnerNewWays Networking, LLCWireless NetworkingNetwork Design, Installation and AdministrationMikrotik Advanced Certifiedwww.nwwnet.net(765)
[WISPA] Current state of Missouri sales tax regs?
Hello, Sorry for emailing suddenly while otherwise being very quite. Would anyone know the current state of Missouri sales tax regulations for WISPs? E.g. minimum sales, minimum monthly amount to be considered taxable, whether install labor is taxed? I quite randomly happened across this blog post about bill signed by the MO governor last year, which looked like it might be slightly related WISPs. Wasn't sure if that did indeed affect WISPs. http://eyesonecomlaw.blogspot.com/2013/07/despite-prior-veto-missouri-governor.html Thank you. -- Ben West ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
