Re: [WISPA] Motel WiFi Authentication

2014-03-26 Thread Stuart Pierce
I've got Tik hotspots set up at a few towers and have setup usermanager for a retirement community. You definitely have more control with a Tik box but using Unifi with vouchers would be far easier. You can still host the Unifi server at your place if they do not keep a computer running and

Re: [WISPA] Motel WiFi Authentication

2014-03-26 Thread wispa
Yeah, I run a UniFi server at my office to drive the 3 HotSpot pay per use camp grounds we have and operate, but they are all driven from Mikrotik routers on site. I suppose we could run something here, but allocating its own server or virtual server locally could be beyond me. I bought a few

Re: [WISPA] Motel WiFi Authentication

2014-03-26 Thread Mark Spring
Heith, Do you run those back to your server over a vpn on the tik or is it all just local? I am planning on doing some unifi work in the near future and I'm just curious what others have run into when the unifi is not on your network. My knowledge of unifi is almost none, just trying to come up

Re: [WISPA] Motel WiFi Authentication

2014-03-26 Thread Sam Tetherow
We run the unifi server in the office. The only requirement is the unifi units need to be able to connect to the unifi controller on port 8080, you will also need 8880 and 8843 if using the portal redirect. So even if the controller is behind a NAT you can set up a port forwards. While I

Re: [WISPA] Motel WiFi Authentication

2014-03-26 Thread wispa
Yes, what Sam just said. No VPN as well, slam dunk using the Wiki From: Mark Spring Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 8:50 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Motel WiFi Authentication Heith, Do you run those back to your server over a vpn on the tik or is it all just local? I am

Re: [WISPA] Motel WiFi Authentication

2014-03-26 Thread Eric Rogers
We use Mikrotik to create a VPN tunnel for our management of our equipment, and we keep our UNIFI server on a hosted instance in our DC. It allows us to update APs and we get the alerts when something drops off and prevents us from having to use NAT or provide a public IP for each AP for

[WISPA] VoIP reselling.

2014-03-26 Thread Roger Howard
So I've been using Vitelity for a while in the office here, with freeswitch, and it works great. I was considering reselling the vitelity service to my customers, the only thing that has held me back is the legal requirements. I thought I had to collect USF fees, register with the FCC, pay it to

Re: [WISPA] VoIP reselling.

2014-03-26 Thread Randy Cosby
Doesn't sound right to me, unless they are going to do all the billing and tax filing in your behalf. If they charge you USF on your wholesale rate, who pays on the difference between your wholesale rate and the customer's marked up rate? On 3/26/2014 10:51 AM, Roger Howard wrote: So I've

Re: [WISPA] VoIP reselling.

2014-03-26 Thread Chris Fabien
This can vary by locality too. We offer voip and collect/pay USF, sales tax, state 911, and a different county 911 fee for each county we serve. On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com wrote: Doesn't sound right to me, unless they are going to do all the billing and

Re: [WISPA] VoIP reselling.

2014-03-26 Thread Fred Goldstein
On 3/26/2014 12:53 PM, Randy Cosby wrote: Doesn't sound right to me, unless they are going to do all the billing and tax filing in your behalf. If they charge you USF on your wholesale rate, who pays on the difference between your wholesale rate and the customer's marked up rate? USF rules

Re: [WISPA] VoIP reselling.

2014-03-26 Thread Paolo Di Francesco
Roger I have experience with VoIP but no experience with US VoIP rules. Anyway, the rule is always the same: who owns the customers? If you are a RESELLER (how powerful are words!) then you resell the service, i.e. it sounds like you are not selling the service but re-selling, i.e. you are

Re: [WISPA] VoIP reselling.

2014-03-26 Thread Jon Auer
This is a matter where you really need a telecom lawyer with knowledge of your state. What we found is you really need to avoid hitting that interconnected VoIP requirement. As for how you do that, check with your lawyers. Once we crossed that it's been a chain of paperwork that seems to never

Re: [WISPA] VoIP reselling.

2014-03-26 Thread Roger Howard
So if I'm de minimis, do I have to register anything with the FCC? or just ignore it and let Vitelity pay until I get big? On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.comwrote: On 3/26/2014 12:53 PM, Randy Cosby wrote: Doesn't sound right to me, unless they are going

Re: [WISPA] VoIP reselling.

2014-03-26 Thread Fred Goldstein
On 3/26/2014 1:44 PM, Roger Howard wrote: So if I'm de minimis, do I have to register anything with the FCC? or just ignore it and let Vitelity pay until I get big? If you're de minimis -- and just reselling might be an out, if the underlying carrier owns the customers, pays USF, and

Re: [WISPA] VoIP reselling.

2014-03-26 Thread lar
On Wed, 26 Mar 2014 12:44:57 -0500 Roger Howard g5inter...@gmail.com wrote: So if I'm de minimis, do I have to register anything with the FCC? or just ignore it and let Vitelity pay until I get big? Get a telcom lawyer. This is a minefield and can blow up in your face if you do it wrong.

Re: [WISPA] VoIP reselling.

2014-03-26 Thread Mike Hammett
Only the person sending the bill to the end user can do all of that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Roger Howard g5inter...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014