Re: [WISPA] Will this bother WISPs?
It looks like I'm about 75ms rtt away from you and at ~1mbps... not bad for a jaunt through WCG's network which adds about 70ms to the trip. My local outgoing connection was 100mbps to AS4323. - Tony On 10/27/2005 5:08 PM, George created: > my test site: > > http://www.oregonfast.net/speedtest/ > > George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Will this bother WISPs?
I'm off the chart ;P OregonFast SpeedTest Your current bandwidth reading is: 136533.3 Kbps which means you can download at 17066.66 KB/sec. from our servers.*** On 10/27/05, Mac Dearman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dang - I couldnt get but 691kbps :-)turn me up GeorgeMac DearmanMaximum Access, LLC. www.inetsouth.comwww.radioresponse.org (Katrina relief efforts)318-728-8600 - Rayville318-728-9600318-376-2562 - cell George wrote:> my test site:>> http://www.oregonfast.net/speedtest/>> George>> danlist wrote:> >> What test site?>>> -Original Message->>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]]>>> On Behalf>>> Of George>>> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 5:25 PM>>> To: WISPA General List>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Will this bother WISPs? >> George wrote:>>> Service is #1 after a person gets on to broadband. Service is our edge. George > I just left a new installs house.>>> While there his speed test results were saying 3,400 to 4,300k.>>> I told the guy, "look it's smokin, nobody goes this fast" >>> He said, yeah man, thats why I got yours, "everyone knows your the>>> fastest".>> So speed is a great advertizer as well.>> Speed # 2. > George>>> -->>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/> -->>> No virus found in this incoming message.>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition.>>> Version: 7.1.361 / Virus Database: 267.12.5/150 - Release Date:>>> 10/27/2005--WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG kbps=136533.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] [Fwd: Press Release: Members of CBC Join Congresswoman Watson in Outlin ing Goals to Narrow Digital Divide in Upcoming DTV Legislation]
It looks like the story is getting out there. Please read the statement below from Congresswoman Watson. She was one who was in attendance and spoke briefly at the Digital Divide Broadcast to Broadband event in D.C. that was setup by New America. I am very happy to have been included in this chance to help lobby for unlicensed use of television channels. My thanks to all in this effort regardless of the outcome going forward. We have done our job at getting the word out to Congress. Thanks to all of you. What else can we do now to keep the momentum going our way? John Scrivner Original Message Subject: Press Release: Members of CBC Join Congresswoman Watson in Outlin ing Goals to Narrow Digital Divide in Upcoming DTV Legislation Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 17:32:41 -0400 From: Chang, Shawn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Chang, Shawn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Immediate Release October 27, 2005 *Members of Congressional Black Caucus Join Representative Watson in* *Outlining Goals to Narrow Digital Divide in Upcoming DTV Legislation * * * Washington, D.C. Fifteen members of the Congressional Black Caucus joined Congresswoman Diane E. Watson (CA-33rd) in signing a letter addressed to the Chair and Ranking Member of the House Energy and Commerce Committee. The letter calls on the Committee to address the issue of universal access to digital television (DTV) and the equitable allocation of spectrum when it considers the upcoming DTV bill. "I and my colleagues from the Congressional Black Caucus recognize the fact that Congress must take advantage of the transition from analog to DTV to narrow our nation's growing digital divide between the "haves" and "have-nots,"" said Congresswoman Watson. AThe recent devastation along the Gulf Coast dramatically reminds us of the need for a robust telecommunications infrastructure that benefits everyone, regardless of race, income, or geographic location. The upcoming transition to DTV has the potential to greatly advance universal access to competitive, innovative, and affordable broadband services. Congress must seize this opportunity by establishing safeguards to ensure that the transition benefits all consumers," stated Watson. The letter outlines three initiatives that Congress should include in the new DTV bill: 1) a government compensation program for set-top boxes that owners of analog television sets will have to purchase in order to process a digital signal; 2) a set-aside of reclaimed analog spectrum for unlicensed uses to facilitate the deployment of community internet; and 3) a portion of spectrum reserved for bidding by small market players and new entrants, specifically minorities and women, and additional support for programs that would provide necessary access to capital to allow minorities and women to make use of the set-aside spectrum. The Text of the Letter is Attached Below: The Honorable Joe Barton Chairman House Energy and Commerce Committee 2125 Rayburn House Office Building Washington, DC 20515 The Honorable John Dingell Ranking Member House Energy and Commerce Committee 2125 Rayburn House Office Building Washington, DC 20515 Dear Chairman Barton and Ranking Member Dingell: It is with a vision of a transition to digital television (DTV) that benefits all Americans, that we, the members of the Congressional Black Caucus, write this letter. Specifically, in light of the recent devastations along the Gulf Coast due to Hurricane Katrina and Rita that starkly illustrated the divide between our nation's "haves" and "have-nots," we urge you to harness the potential of the DTV transition to open the door to a richer, broader and more inclusive variety of telecommunications services, accessible to all Americans. Though we've taken widespread access to communications services for granted in the past, the abruptness with which Katrina and Rita left thousands without the means to communicate with loved ones or access public safety information has shown us that a robust and accessible information infrastructure is not only vital to the educational and economic life of our nation, it is an essential element of emergency preparedness. Universal access to broadband could be a critical first step in ensuring that the benefits of competitive, innovative and affordable telecommunications services (such as Voice over Internet Protocol and broadband video services) are available to everyone, without regard to race, income or geographic location. Such services will allow more consumers to interact with members of their communities at home and overseas, to speak and debate about issues important to sustaining o
Re: [WISPA] Will this bother WISPs?
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: >Why? It won't be that much better for them than they have it now. >700 mhz already went to auciton, they already have it. And almost >no one (yet again) is doing jack with it. And there's no product >that's even remotely cost effective. It's not a matter of cost effectiveness. The ILEC I am partnered with owns a LARGE area in southern Missouri. The equipment that is available is not, yet working well. I am testing the WaveIP product right now. I do not like the way they implemented the system, and the available throughput is just too low. The WaveIp and Airspan products (both) are based on the WiMax chips, so when that becomes available, they will be able to run the WiMax protocols. Perhaps others would like the implementation, but they have shown me NOTHING that is impressive so far. I WILL say that I have been able to make a link, standing on the ground holding the antenna at 20.75 miles and pulled the same throughput I did standing under the tower. The NLOS properties of this band (lower 700MHz) is very impressive, but the product just plain sucks. >They still don't get it (lets hope none of them ever hires people >like you and me. THAT's my biggest fear). They'll want gear Wellthey hired me. Does that count? -- Butch Evans BPS Networks http://www.bpsnetworks.com/ Bernie, MO Mikrotik Certified Consultant (http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html) -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Will this bother WISPs?
I only pay for yellow page ads right now. I have all the business I can fund right now. I wish I could fund more growth. Scriv George wrote: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: And yet our wireless base has DOUBLED in less than 24 months with NO advertising (we can't handle the growth already). Funny thing. I don't advertise any more either. I get all my customers from referrals. Some that we pay comish on and others not. I have saved tens of thousands by getting rid of the expensive ads. George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Re: [Fwd: FW: [TVWHITESPACE] My views on 2-4 proposal]
This is fantastic news, Frannie. I have to be honest. I was skeptical things would progress this far. I owe you a nice dinner the next time I am in D.C. regardless of the outcome going forward. You did us proud Frannie. I am copying the WISPA list here so they know their efforts are being recognized directly at the House level in D.C. Hopefully this will lead to actual legislative action to task the FCC to do the right thing. Thank you so much, Scriv PS. Anyone, please feel free to pass this message along to other WISP lists. Frannie Wellings wrote: Hey John, Good news!! An amendment calling on the FCC to finish the White Spaces proceeding passed in the House Energy and Commerce Committee as part of their Digital Transition bill. Now we have to see what happens on the floor and see what we can get in the Senate, but right now this is a terrific first step! BTW, all of the members of that House Committee received that letter signed by all the WISPs yesterday! Here's to progress... Best, Frannie John Scrivner wrote: begin:vcard fn:John Scrivner n:Scrivner;John org:Mt. Vernon. Net, Inc. adr;dom:PO Box 1582;;1 Dr Park Road Suite H1;Mt. Vernon;Il;62864 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:President tel;work:618-244-6868 url:http://www.mvn.net/ version:2.1 end:vcard -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Will this bother WISPs?
Yeppers its time for a new upstream provider. George Mac Dearman wrote: Dang - I couldnt get but 691kbps :-) turn me up George Mac Dearman Maximum Access, LLC. www.inetsouth.com www.radioresponse.org (Katrina relief efforts) 318-728-8600 - Rayville 318-728-9600 318-376-2562 - cell George wrote: my test site: http://www.oregonfast.net/speedtest/ George danlist wrote: What test site? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 5:25 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Will this bother WISPs? George wrote: Service is #1 after a person gets on to broadband. Service is our edge. George I just left a new installs house. While there his speed test results were saying 3,400 to 4,300k. I told the guy, "look it's smokin, nobody goes this fast" He said, yeah man, thats why I got yours, "everyone knows your the fastest". So speed is a great advertizer as well. Speed # 2. George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.361 / Virus Database: 267.12.5/150 - Release Date: 10/27/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Will this bother WISPs?
i tested from here and my modem only does 45Kbits/sec :-) Mac Dearman wrote: Dang - I couldnt get but 691kbps :-) turn me up George Mac Dearman Maximum Access, LLC. www.inetsouth.com www.radioresponse.org (Katrina relief efforts) 318-728-8600 - Rayville 318-728-9600 318-376-2562 - cell George wrote: my test site: http://www.oregonfast.net/speedtest/ George danlist wrote: What test site? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 5:25 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Will this bother WISPs? George wrote: Service is #1 after a person gets on to broadband. Service is our edge. George I just left a new installs house. While there his speed test results were saying 3,400 to 4,300k. I told the guy, "look it's smokin, nobody goes this fast" He said, yeah man, thats why I got yours, "everyone knows your the fastest". So speed is a great advertizer as well. Speed # 2. George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.361 / Virus Database: 267.12.5/150 - Release Date: 10/27/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Will this bother WISPs?
Dang - I couldnt get but 691kbps :-) turn me up George Mac Dearman Maximum Access, LLC. www.inetsouth.com www.radioresponse.org (Katrina relief efforts) 318-728-8600 - Rayville 318-728-9600 318-376-2562 - cell George wrote: my test site: http://www.oregonfast.net/speedtest/ George danlist wrote: What test site? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 5:25 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Will this bother WISPs? George wrote: Service is #1 after a person gets on to broadband. Service is our edge. George I just left a new installs house. While there his speed test results were saying 3,400 to 4,300k. I told the guy, "look it's smokin, nobody goes this fast" He said, yeah man, thats why I got yours, "everyone knows your the fastest". So speed is a great advertizer as well. Speed # 2. George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.361 / Virus Database: 267.12.5/150 - Release Date: 10/27/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Will this bother WISPs?
my test site: http://www.oregonfast.net/speedtest/ George danlist wrote: What test site? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 5:25 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Will this bother WISPs? George wrote: Service is #1 after a person gets on to broadband. Service is our edge. George I just left a new installs house. While there his speed test results were saying 3,400 to 4,300k. I told the guy, "look it's smokin, nobody goes this fast" He said, yeah man, thats why I got yours, "everyone knows your the fastest". So speed is a great advertizer as well. Speed # 2. George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.361 / Virus Database: 267.12.5/150 - Release Date: 10/27/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Will this bother WISPs?
What test site? > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of George > Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 5:25 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Will this bother WISPs? > > George wrote: > > > > Service is #1 after a person gets on to broadband. > > > > Service is our edge. > > > > George > > I just left a new installs house. > While there his speed test results were saying 3,400 to 4,300k. > I told the guy, "look it's smokin, nobody goes this fast" > He said, yeah man, thats why I got yours, "everyone knows your the fastest". > > So speed is a great advertizer as well. > > Speed # 2. > > > George > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.361 / Virus Database: 267.12.5/150 - Release Date: 10/27/2005 > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.361 / Virus Database: 267.12.5/150 - Release Date: 10/27/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Will this bother WISPs?
George wrote: Service is #1 after a person gets on to broadband. Service is our edge. George I just left a new installs house. While there his speed test results were saying 3,400 to 4,300k. I told the guy, "look it's smokin, nobody goes this fast" He said, yeah man, thats why I got yours, "everyone knows your the fastest". So speed is a great advertizer as well. Speed # 2. George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Will this bother WISPs?
Touché pussy cat! Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "George" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Will this bother WISPs? Me too, but aside from giving up market pace we can still do a pretty good job gaining customers. I am competing in a Qwest DSL market and Charter Broadband, and we are continously turning on new subs, ever day. Some come from those guys, and they are the sweetest of all. Service is #1 after a person gets on to broadband. Service is our edge. George Brian Rohrbacher wrote: The thought of the "big boys" with 700MHz Wi Max saddens me. :( Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Didn't you know? EVERYTHING that happens is bad for ISPs. I've been told that every time I turn around since '97 when I opened the doors. And yet our wireless base has DOUBLED in less than 24 months with NO advertising (we can't handle the growth already). Oh well, I guess if it really does screw things up I can just go find a real job and drop down to an 8 hour day like the rest of you losers! roflol grin laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Brian Rohrbacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization" Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 10:48 AM Subject: [WISPA] Will this bother WISPs? http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/68920 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Will this bother WISPs?
Send me a customer, they sign up and pay at least one month's service and I'll give you a free month. Up to 12 per year. I tell them that if they can send more people than that we'll put them on the payroll. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "George" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 12:36 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Will this bother WISPs? Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: And yet our wireless base has DOUBLED in less than 24 months with NO advertising (we can't handle the growth already). Funny thing. I don't advertise any more either. I get all my customers from referrals. Some that we pay comish on and others not. I have saved tens of thousands by getting rid of the expensive ads. George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Will this bother WISPs?
Why? It won't be that much better for them than they have it now. 700 mhz already went to auciton, they already have it. And almost no one (yet again) is doing jack with it. And there's no product that's even remotely cost effective. They still don't get it (lets hope none of them ever hires people like you and me. THAT's my biggest fear). They'll want gear that costs $100,000 to do less than what we can do with $10,000. If they ever run out of investment money, you and I are going to be sitting pretty! laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Brian Rohrbacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Will this bother WISPs? The thought of the "big boys" with 700MHz Wi Max saddens me. :( Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Didn't you know? EVERYTHING that happens is bad for ISPs. I've been told that every time I turn around since '97 when I opened the doors. And yet our wireless base has DOUBLED in less than 24 months with NO advertising (we can't handle the growth already). Oh well, I guess if it really does screw things up I can just go find a real job and drop down to an 8 hour day like the rest of you losers! roflol grin laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Brian Rohrbacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization" Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 10:48 AM Subject: [WISPA] Will this bother WISPs? http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/68920 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Will this bother WISPs?
Me too, but aside from giving up market pace we can still do a pretty good job gaining customers. I am competing in a Qwest DSL market and Charter Broadband, and we are continously turning on new subs, ever day. Some come from those guys, and they are the sweetest of all. Service is #1 after a person gets on to broadband. Service is our edge. George Brian Rohrbacher wrote: The thought of the "big boys" with 700MHz Wi Max saddens me. :( Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Didn't you know? EVERYTHING that happens is bad for ISPs. I've been told that every time I turn around since '97 when I opened the doors. And yet our wireless base has DOUBLED in less than 24 months with NO advertising (we can't handle the growth already). Oh well, I guess if it really does screw things up I can just go find a real job and drop down to an 8 hour day like the rest of you losers! roflol grin laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Brian Rohrbacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization" Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 10:48 AM Subject: [WISPA] Will this bother WISPs? http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/68920 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Will this bother WISPs?
Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: And yet our wireless base has DOUBLED in less than 24 months with NO advertising (we can't handle the growth already). Funny thing. I don't advertise any more either. I get all my customers from referrals. Some that we pay comish on and others not. I have saved tens of thousands by getting rid of the expensive ads. George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Will this bother WISPs?
The thought of the "big boys" with 700MHz Wi Max saddens me. :( Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Didn't you know? EVERYTHING that happens is bad for ISPs. I've been told that every time I turn around since '97 when I opened the doors. And yet our wireless base has DOUBLED in less than 24 months with NO advertising (we can't handle the growth already). Oh well, I guess if it really does screw things up I can just go find a real job and drop down to an 8 hour day like the rest of you losers! roflol grin laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Brian Rohrbacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization" Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 10:48 AM Subject: [WISPA] Will this bother WISPs? http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/68920 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Will this bother WISPs?
Didn't you know? EVERYTHING that happens is bad for ISPs. I've been told that every time I turn around since '97 when I opened the doors. And yet our wireless base has DOUBLED in less than 24 months with NO advertising (we can't handle the growth already). Oh well, I guess if it really does screw things up I can just go find a real job and drop down to an 8 hour day like the rest of you losers! roflol grin laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Brian Rohrbacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization" Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 10:48 AM Subject: [WISPA] Will this bother WISPs? http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/68920 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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Brian Rohrbacher wrote: http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/68920 DoD Buying Sprint's iDEN Network Rumored deal could be huge for cable industry Posted 2005-10-27 13:10:42 User Comcast_Loke sends in this PCS Intel Blog story that indicates the Department of Defense will be buying Sprint's iDEN network as "the first phase of a national overhaul of its security framework in regards to communication." The gist is that the government will move much of its wireless communications onto one encrypted wireless network, and Sprint/Nextel customers will be issued dual-network CDMA/iDEN handsets, so that as iDEN becomes restricted, CDMA will take its place. The report also claims that in exchange, Sprint will get plenty of spectrum in the 700 & 800Mhz bands for mobile Wimax broadband service. Keep in mind that if true, most of this wouldn't happen until around 2010, which roughly gels with Wimax analyst timeline predictions. The report claims the deal won't even be announced until 2007 or 2008. This move makes this week's news of a Sprint co-branding wireless deal with Comcast, Time Warner Cable, and Cox slightly more interesting. The deal would give Sprint priority access to Wimax spectrum, letting those three cable giants offer re-branded Wimax to better compete with baby Bell Wimax offerings. This whole scenario assumes a lot; at the forefront that mobile Wimax is a solid business model. If Wimax tanks however, the report seems to indicate that Sprint's deal with Uncle Sam allows them to instead grab ample 2.5 GHz spectrum, and deploy the most popular technology at the time (like WiBro). Either way, the cable industry would be well positioned for wireless broadband competition. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Will this bother WISPs?
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Re: [WISPA] Senao Question
And no ethernet surge suppression. A. Huppenthal wrote: have you compared with the Tranzeo product? Brian Rohrbacher wrote: This is why I was asking more about pricing. I use these http://www.demarctech.com/store/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21_24_38&products_id=147&osCsid=24262290b45598f284b297f1cd496d87 and I buy them at $194 each. They come with mounting hardware, POE, ethernet lightning protection and integrated ready to "hang". I am always looking for something else, but I always end up determining Demarc is the best. So, for a 250mw radio with 15 DBi antenna, I don't see anything better out there. I really like the BW limiting at the CPE. This is where upload is suppose to be limited. Brian Richard Strittmatter wrote: Hrm. $145.18 I am paying around $160 for the Tranzeo CPE200-15 in qty 20 pricing. Couple things that are missing from your quote is the assembly time, and the POE injector. One of the reasons we use the tranzeo's over the CB3 is assembly time on the roof, and external cable connection, external led's, and since they are just a CB3 with custom firmware, they work just as well. Their poe also has a ground drain wire ( notice I'm not saying surge supressor here.. ) R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete Davis. NoDial.net Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 9:41 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senao Question All prices from wisp-router.com. You may find better prices elsewhere, but Eje's usually seem to be in line. 2611 CB3 Deluxe = $94.83 (qty 24) PacWireless Rootenna = RT24-14 = $36.90 (qty 25) UML (Satellite Arm) = $13.45 A 3 inch piece of Velcro tape holds in in just fine. They seem to handle 100 degree + days in South Texas without any problem. I don't think I have had any fail due to heat or cold. It got down to the teens last winter. Pete Davis NoDial.net Brian Rohrbacher wrote: Pete, Will you list out all the parts and prices of this 200mw CPE? Is this outdoor, POE? It is kind a "build your own"? What temperatures is this operation in? Brian George wrote: Pete Davis. NoDial.net wrote: I like the features of the Tranzeos, the Smartbridges, etc etc, but at $100 more per CPE, my 200 2611 clients would have cost me $20k more. If anyone can tell me another way to get a 36db POE client for less than $150 PLEASE contact me off list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I learned that the hard way. Pete Davis NoDial.net Well I would say that Teletronics EZ Bridges were good. I have 500 +/- of them. And they have a 200MW version. But lately, I've been getting some bad ones in my orders. The 100mw pcb kit is 100.00 or so and the 200mw is 125.00 or so. But I would caution buyer beware, since buying the pcb only version and not the full fledges outdoor unit, I've noticed a lot of doa''s and unstable units. Will be nice when StarVX Lonnie gets his single radio cpe. I understand it may be in the price range you mentioned. George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Senao Question
Yes, no BW management. A. Huppenthal wrote: have you compared with the Tranzeo product? Brian Rohrbacher wrote: This is why I was asking more about pricing. I use these http://www.demarctech.com/store/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21_24_38&products_id=147&osCsid=24262290b45598f284b297f1cd496d87 and I buy them at $194 each. They come with mounting hardware, POE, ethernet lightning protection and integrated ready to "hang". I am always looking for something else, but I always end up determining Demarc is the best. So, for a 250mw radio with 15 DBi antenna, I don't see anything better out there. I really like the BW limiting at the CPE. This is where upload is suppose to be limited. Brian Richard Strittmatter wrote: Hrm. $145.18 I am paying around $160 for the Tranzeo CPE200-15 in qty 20 pricing. Couple things that are missing from your quote is the assembly time, and the POE injector. One of the reasons we use the tranzeo's over the CB3 is assembly time on the roof, and external cable connection, external led's, and since they are just a CB3 with custom firmware, they work just as well. Their poe also has a ground drain wire ( notice I'm not saying surge supressor here.. ) R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete Davis. NoDial.net Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 9:41 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senao Question All prices from wisp-router.com. You may find better prices elsewhere, but Eje's usually seem to be in line. 2611 CB3 Deluxe = $94.83 (qty 24) PacWireless Rootenna = RT24-14 = $36.90 (qty 25) UML (Satellite Arm) = $13.45 A 3 inch piece of Velcro tape holds in in just fine. They seem to handle 100 degree + days in South Texas without any problem. I don't think I have had any fail due to heat or cold. It got down to the teens last winter. Pete Davis NoDial.net Brian Rohrbacher wrote: Pete, Will you list out all the parts and prices of this 200mw CPE? Is this outdoor, POE? It is kind a "build your own"? What temperatures is this operation in? Brian George wrote: Pete Davis. NoDial.net wrote: I like the features of the Tranzeos, the Smartbridges, etc etc, but at $100 more per CPE, my 200 2611 clients would have cost me $20k more. If anyone can tell me another way to get a 36db POE client for less than $150 PLEASE contact me off list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I learned that the hard way. Pete Davis NoDial.net Well I would say that Teletronics EZ Bridges were good. I have 500 +/- of them. And they have a 200MW version. But lately, I've been getting some bad ones in my orders. The 100mw pcb kit is 100.00 or so and the 200mw is 125.00 or so. But I would caution buyer beware, since buying the pcb only version and not the full fledges outdoor unit, I've noticed a lot of doa''s and unstable units. Will be nice when StarVX Lonnie gets his single radio cpe. I understand it may be in the price range you mentioned. George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Senao Question
have you compared with the Tranzeo product? Brian Rohrbacher wrote: This is why I was asking more about pricing. I use these http://www.demarctech.com/store/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21_24_38&products_id=147&osCsid=24262290b45598f284b297f1cd496d87 and I buy them at $194 each. They come with mounting hardware, POE, ethernet lightning protection and integrated ready to "hang". I am always looking for something else, but I always end up determining Demarc is the best. So, for a 250mw radio with 15 DBi antenna, I don't see anything better out there. I really like the BW limiting at the CPE. This is where upload is suppose to be limited. Brian Richard Strittmatter wrote: Hrm. $145.18 I am paying around $160 for the Tranzeo CPE200-15 in qty 20 pricing. Couple things that are missing from your quote is the assembly time, and the POE injector. One of the reasons we use the tranzeo's over the CB3 is assembly time on the roof, and external cable connection, external led's, and since they are just a CB3 with custom firmware, they work just as well. Their poe also has a ground drain wire ( notice I'm not saying surge supressor here.. ) R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete Davis. NoDial.net Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 9:41 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senao Question All prices from wisp-router.com. You may find better prices elsewhere, but Eje's usually seem to be in line. 2611 CB3 Deluxe = $94.83 (qty 24) PacWireless Rootenna = RT24-14 = $36.90 (qty 25) UML (Satellite Arm) = $13.45 A 3 inch piece of Velcro tape holds in in just fine. They seem to handle 100 degree + days in South Texas without any problem. I don't think I have had any fail due to heat or cold. It got down to the teens last winter. Pete Davis NoDial.net Brian Rohrbacher wrote: Pete, Will you list out all the parts and prices of this 200mw CPE? Is this outdoor, POE? It is kind a "build your own"? What temperatures is this operation in? Brian George wrote: Pete Davis. NoDial.net wrote: I like the features of the Tranzeos, the Smartbridges, etc etc, but at $100 more per CPE, my 200 2611 clients would have cost me $20k more. If anyone can tell me another way to get a 36db POE client for less than $150 PLEASE contact me off list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I learned that the hard way. Pete Davis NoDial.net Well I would say that Teletronics EZ Bridges were good. I have 500 +/- of them. And they have a 200MW version. But lately, I've been getting some bad ones in my orders. The 100mw pcb kit is 100.00 or so and the 200mw is 125.00 or so. But I would caution buyer beware, since buying the pcb only version and not the full fledges outdoor unit, I've noticed a lot of doa''s and unstable units. Will be nice when StarVX Lonnie gets his single radio cpe. I understand it may be in the price range you mentioned. George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Senao Question
This is why I was asking more about pricing. I use these http://www.demarctech.com/store/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21_24_38&products_id=147&osCsid=24262290b45598f284b297f1cd496d87 and I buy them at $194 each. They come with mounting hardware, POE, ethernet lightning protection and integrated ready to "hang". I am always looking for something else, but I always end up determining Demarc is the best. So, for a 250mw radio with 15 DBi antenna, I don't see anything better out there. I really like the BW limiting at the CPE. This is where upload is suppose to be limited. Brian Richard Strittmatter wrote: Hrm. $145.18 I am paying around $160 for the Tranzeo CPE200-15 in qty 20 pricing. Couple things that are missing from your quote is the assembly time, and the POE injector. One of the reasons we use the tranzeo's over the CB3 is assembly time on the roof, and external cable connection, external led's, and since they are just a CB3 with custom firmware, they work just as well. Their poe also has a ground drain wire ( notice I'm not saying surge supressor here.. ) R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Pete Davis. NoDial.net Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 9:41 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senao Question All prices from wisp-router.com. You may find better prices elsewhere, but Eje's usually seem to be in line. 2611 CB3 Deluxe = $94.83 (qty 24) PacWireless Rootenna = RT24-14 = $36.90 (qty 25) UML (Satellite Arm) = $13.45 A 3 inch piece of Velcro tape holds in in just fine. They seem to handle 100 degree + days in South Texas without any problem. I don't think I have had any fail due to heat or cold. It got down to the teens last winter. Pete Davis NoDial.net Brian Rohrbacher wrote: Pete, Will you list out all the parts and prices of this 200mw CPE? Is this outdoor, POE? It is kind a "build your own"? What temperatures is this operation in? Brian George wrote: Pete Davis. NoDial.net wrote: I like the features of the Tranzeos, the Smartbridges, etc etc, but at $100 more per CPE, my 200 2611 clients would have cost me $20k more. If anyone can tell me another way to get a 36db POE client for less than $150 PLEASE contact me off list to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. I learned that the hard way. Pete Davis NoDial.net Well I would say that Teletronics EZ Bridges were good. I have 500 +/- of them. And they have a 200MW version. But lately, I've been getting some bad ones in my orders. The 100mw pcb kit is 100.00 or so and the 200mw is 125.00 or so. But I would caution buyer beware, since buying the pcb only version and not the full fledges outdoor unit, I've noticed a lot of doa''s and unstable units. Will be nice when StarVX Lonnie gets his single radio cpe. I understand it may be in the price range you mentioned. George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Senao Question
Hrm. $145.18 I am paying around $160 for the Tranzeo CPE200-15 in qty 20 pricing. Couple things that are missing from your quote is the assembly time, and the POE injector. One of the reasons we use the tranzeo's over the CB3 is assembly time on the roof, and external cable connection, external led's, and since they are just a CB3 with custom firmware, they work just as well. Their poe also has a ground drain wire ( notice I'm not saying surge supressor here.. ) R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete Davis. NoDial.net Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 9:41 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senao Question All prices from wisp-router.com. You may find better prices elsewhere, but Eje's usually seem to be in line. 2611 CB3 Deluxe = $94.83 (qty 24) PacWireless Rootenna = RT24-14 = $36.90 (qty 25) UML (Satellite Arm) = $13.45 A 3 inch piece of Velcro tape holds in in just fine. They seem to handle 100 degree + days in South Texas without any problem. I don't think I have had any fail due to heat or cold. It got down to the teens last winter. Pete Davis NoDial.net Brian Rohrbacher wrote: > Pete, > Will you list out all the parts and prices of this 200mw CPE? Is this > outdoor, POE? It is kind a "build your own"? > What temperatures is this operation in? > > Brian > > George wrote: > >> Pete Davis. NoDial.net wrote: >> >>> >>> I like the features of the Tranzeos, the Smartbridges, etc etc, but >>> at $100 more per CPE, my 200 2611 clients would have cost me $20k >>> more. If anyone can tell me another way to get a 36db POE client for >>> less than $150 PLEASE contact me off list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> I learned that the hard way. >>> >>> Pete Davis >>> NoDial.net >> >> >> >> Well I would say that Teletronics EZ Bridges were good. I have 500 >> +/- of them. >> And they have a 200MW version. >> But lately, I've been getting some bad ones in my orders. >> >> The 100mw pcb kit is 100.00 or so and the 200mw is 125.00 or so. >> >> But I would caution buyer beware, since buying the pcb only version >> and not the full fledges outdoor unit, I've noticed a lot of doa''s >> and unstable units. >> >> Will be nice when StarVX Lonnie gets his single radio cpe. >> I understand it may be in the price range you mentioned. >> >> George > > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
