RE: [WISPA] Rodopi Vs. Platypus
What are the hardware requierements? We are trying to choose between the soft pkg or the hosted application Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aeronetpr.com 787.273.4143 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 11:04 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rodopi Vs. Platypus Hi, We have been running Rodopi for almost 8 years now. It works great and we have never had a problem. Travis Microserv G.Villarini wrote: Any info on the pro and cons of both billing platforms ? Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aeronetpr.com 787.273.4143 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Rodopi Vs. Platypus
Title: Message another WISP / ISP OSS vendor to check out is Airpath Wireless - www.airpath.com They come from the WiFi side, and are trying to do a few interesting things for fixed wireless ISPs (in respect to roamingideas, etc) -Charles ---WiNOG Austin, TXMarch 13-15, 2006http://www.winog.com -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of G.VillariniSent: Friday, March 10, 2006 5:17 AMTo: 'WISPA General List'Subject: RE: [WISPA] Rodopi Vs. Platypus What are the hardware requierements? We are trying to choose between the soft pkg or the hosted application Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aeronetpr.com 787.273.4143 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis JohnsonSent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 11:04 PMTo: WISPA General ListSubject: Re: [WISPA] Rodopi Vs. Platypus Hi,We have been running Rodopi for almost 8 years now. It works great and we have never had a problem.TravisMicroservG.Villarini wrote: Any info on the pro and cons of both billing platforms ? Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aeronetpr.com 787.273.4143 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rodopi Vs. Platypus
Hi, We run it on a single P4 machine with 1GB of RAM and we have thousands of customers. Travis Microserv G.Villarini wrote: What are the hardware requierements? We are trying to choose between the soft pkg or the hosted application Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aeronetpr.com 787.273.4143 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 11:04 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rodopi Vs. Platypus Hi, We have been running Rodopi for almost 8 years now. It works great and we have never had a problem. Travis Microserv G.Villarini wrote: Any info on the pro and cons of both billing platforms ? Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aeronetpr.com 787.273.4143 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Rodopi Vs. Platypus
They both stink, but for an ISP centric solutionthe alternatives are worse. After switching from Platy to Rodopi I would say that although Rodopi has one of the worst interfaces ever created we think it is a better product. It's pretty easy to link all your systems to it via some custom scripts and if you use their merchant account system you can have the whole thingsetup in 24hrs. Their east coast support # appears to be someones house as you can hear their kids/family in the background... but they have never failed to solve our problems. matt From: G.Villarini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 8:53 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [WISPA] Rodopi Vs. Platypus Any info on the pro and cons of both billing platforms ? Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aeronetpr.com 787.273.4143 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rodopi Vs. Platypus
We are in the process of switching to Freeside. I have demoed almost every billing system out there and Freeside seems to be the most flexible and cost effective. Jory Privett WCCS - Original Message - From: Matt Larsen - Lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 6:09 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rodopi Vs. Platypus Unless you have in-house developers who are comfortable with doing Windows development (Visual Basic, if I remember correctly) Rodopi is a nightmare. My original ISP used it for about five years, and managed 4000+ customers with it. It has some cool features, but we were never able to get it to do exactly what we wanted to do and there were all kinds of license requirements and extra charges. I think we spent nearly $10K over that five years in licensing alone - not to mention a lot of custom development to get the information out of it that we wanted. We were actually exporting the entire sql database out of MsSQL to a linux box with MySQL every morning so we could get the information we needed out of it. Man, I don't miss those days. The people on my staff who had experience with Rodopi and Freeside would take Freeside any day. Matt Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] G.Villarini wrote: What are the hardware requierements? We are trying to choose between the soft pkg or the hosted application Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aeronetpr.com http://www.aeronetpr.com/ 787.273.4143 *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Travis Johnson *Sent:* Thursday, March 09, 2006 11:04 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Rodopi Vs. Platypus Hi, We have been running Rodopi for almost 8 years now. It works great and we have never had a problem. Travis Microserv G.Villarini wrote: Any info on the pro and cons of both billing platforms ? Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aeronetpr.com http://www.aeronetpr.com/ 787.273.4143 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Adzilla ads
Every page has the option of taking ads from numerous sources like mediaplex, doubleclick, etc. Some pages the ad server is static (no choice). In others, the ad server is dynamic (each time you view the page the ad is different). Frank Muto wrote: Who determines the relevancy of the add? So what I am seeing here, is if I have an ad campaign with one of the web publishers mention below with the same product or service, the Adzilla ad would take it's place over our ad? Frank Muto President/CEO FSM Marketing Group, Inc -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rodopi Vs. Platypus
www.sisd.com/freeside It is open source based on Perl, Apache and Postgres SQL . It runs best on a Debian box but can be ported to others. If you need help installing Ivan can do the whole install for less than the cost of the license for most software. He can also customize it anyway that you want. Jory Privett WCCS - Original Message - From: G.Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 9:38 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Rodopi Vs. Platypus Link? Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aeronetpr.com 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jory Privett Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 11:41 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rodopi Vs. Platypus We are in the process of switching to Freeside. I have demoed almost every billing system out there and Freeside seems to be the most flexible and cost effective. Jory Privett WCCS - Original Message - From: Matt Larsen - Lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 6:09 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rodopi Vs. Platypus Unless you have in-house developers who are comfortable with doing Windows development (Visual Basic, if I remember correctly) Rodopi is a nightmare. My original ISP used it for about five years, and managed 4000+ customers with it. It has some cool features, but we were never able to get it to do exactly what we wanted to do and there were all kinds of license requirements and extra charges. I think we spent nearly $10K over that five years in licensing alone - not to mention a lot of custom development to get the information out of it that we wanted. We were actually exporting the entire sql database out of MsSQL to a linux box with MySQL every morning so we could get the information we needed out of it. Man, I don't miss those days. The people on my staff who had experience with Rodopi and Freeside would take Freeside any day. Matt Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] G.Villarini wrote: What are the hardware requierements? We are trying to choose between the soft pkg or the hosted application Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aeronetpr.com http://www.aeronetpr.com/ 787.273.4143 *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Travis Johnson *Sent:* Thursday, March 09, 2006 11:04 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Rodopi Vs. Platypus Hi, We have been running Rodopi for almost 8 years now. It works great and we have never had a problem. Travis Microserv G.Villarini wrote: Any info on the pro and cons of both billing platforms ? Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aeronetpr.com http://www.aeronetpr.com/ 787.273.4143 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Con Call
Seems like we have a lot of questions, and it would be best if an Adzilla Engineer answered them. On March 15 at 10:30 Pacific time, RAD-INFO will be a hosting a conference call for those interested in a QA with Adzilla. Just email me your email adress that we can send a Live Meeting invite to and I will send you the bridge info. This call is a complimentary service. Thank you. Regards, Peter RAD-INFO, Inc. NSP Strategist Telecom Agent ISP Consultant 813-963-5884 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rodopi Vs. Platypus
Jeremy Davis and I work together to do Freeside installs as well - he installs the software, I work on the data transfer and integration with existing systems. We have six or seven running right now and have been using it for about four years. Matt Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jory Privett wrote: www.sisd.com/freeside It is open source based on Perl, Apache and Postgres SQL . It runs best on a Debian box but can be ported to others. If you need help installing Ivan can do the whole install for less than the cost of the license for most software. He can also customize it anyway that you want. Jory Privett WCCS - Original Message - From: G.Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 9:38 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Rodopi Vs. Platypus Link? Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aeronetpr.com 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jory Privett Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 11:41 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rodopi Vs. Platypus We are in the process of switching to Freeside. I have demoed almost every billing system out there and Freeside seems to be the most flexible and cost effective. Jory Privett WCCS - Original Message - From: Matt Larsen - Lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 6:09 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rodopi Vs. Platypus Unless you have in-house developers who are comfortable with doing Windows development (Visual Basic, if I remember correctly) Rodopi is a nightmare. My original ISP used it for about five years, and managed 4000+ customers with it. It has some cool features, but we were never able to get it to do exactly what we wanted to do and there were all kinds of license requirements and extra charges. I think we spent nearly $10K over that five years in licensing alone - not to mention a lot of custom development to get the information out of it that we wanted. We were actually exporting the entire sql database out of MsSQL to a linux box with MySQL every morning so we could get the information we needed out of it. Man, I don't miss those days. The people on my staff who had experience with Rodopi and Freeside would take Freeside any day. Matt Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] G.Villarini wrote: What are the hardware requierements? We are trying to choose between the soft pkg or the hosted application Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aeronetpr.com http://www.aeronetpr.com/ 787.273.4143 *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Travis Johnson *Sent:* Thursday, March 09, 2006 11:04 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Rodopi Vs. Platypus Hi, We have been running Rodopi for almost 8 years now. It works great and we have never had a problem. Travis Microserv G.Villarini wrote: Any info on the pro and cons of both billing platforms ? Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aeronetpr.com http://www.aeronetpr.com/ 787.273.4143 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] GPS Recievers
I'm looking for very good GPS receivers. I've used Trimble in the past and found them to be very good, but expensive. That was back in 1998 - 2001. I'd like to get sub-meter accuracy if the price is right. When dealing with mountain tops and ridge lines, 100' off can put you at the bottom of a cliff. Any recommendations? -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] GPS Recievers
Dan, I like the Garmin product line. To get the best accuracy for a reasonable price look for devices that have WAAS. This is a secondary differential correction signal sent from Geostationary birds on each coast. It does not always work but for the price it gets you real close. You should be able to get accuracy to 20 feet or better in most situations. Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com http://www.wirelessmapping.com -Original Message- From: Dan Petermann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 2:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] GPS Recievers I'm looking for very good GPS receivers. I've used Trimble in the past and found them to be very good, but expensive. That was back in 1998 - 2001. I'd like to get sub-meter accuracy if the price is right. When dealing with mountain tops and ridge lines, 100' off can put you at the bottom of a cliff. Any recommendations? -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Re: wisp-router
My opinion. FYI For those of you who remember this.. I am still fighting them. They disputed my dispute. LOL Who do they think they are to take my money and not send the product? Anyway, I will not give up on this. They will learn it's not ok to steal. Brian Rohrbacher wrote: Anyone ever have trouble with them. FYI They just informed me it is my fault they didn't ship me out what I paid for. I've never done anything with Mikrotik. I ordered what a friend told me to, I don't know what anything looks like, I assumed when I looked in the box it was all there. Well, I have Butch lined up an am ready to use it and...imagine that, I'm missing parts. Maybe I didn't call within the first 7 days. Who gives a fart! Be warned. I just got screwed. Credit card dispute to the rescue again. Ahh, this just pisses me off. I should get what I paid for. I don't lie. I know I didn't get the part. Speaking of not getting it. Don't these people know the customer (ME) is always right? I can't get away with this crap with my subs, that's for sure. Just so ya'll know, when I first called, the guy I talked to said it looked like it might not have been shipped. They would look into is and call me back. I was happy and thinking how I would post to the list and say how fast they helped me and solved my problem. Nope. Not today. I was promptly called back and blamed for their poor quality control. Also, where can I order a RB564 Daughterboard to replace the one the ups guy must have stole? Not wisp-router. Need it overnight. -- Brian Rohrbacher Reliable Internet, LLC www.reliableinter.net Cell 269-838-8338 Caught up in the Air 1 Thess. 4:17 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Re: wisp-router (THREAD CLOSED)
Brian, I will have to agree with Bob. This is not a court of law. WISPA has no interest in the trying of vendors on this list. This is a group of your peers and WISP-Router is not going to defend themselves in this forum. Therefore, please take this to an attorney and pursue your claims in a legal and appropriate manner. Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell 260-918-4340 VoIP www.oibw.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 7:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Re: wisp-router (THREAD CLOSED) My Opinion FYIThis is not appropriate list traffic. This post does absolutely nothing for the promotion of WISPA. -B- Brian Rohrbacher wrote: My opinion. FYI For those of you who remember this.. I am still fighting them. They disputed my dispute. LOL Who do they think they are to take my money and not send the product? Anyway, I will not give up on this. They will learn it's not ok to steal. Brian Rohrbacher wrote: Anyone ever have trouble with them. FYI They just informed me it is my fault they didn't ship me out what I paid for. I've never done anything with Mikrotik. I ordered what a friend told me to, I don't know what anything looks like, I assumed when I looked in the box it was all there. Well, I have Butch lined up an am ready to use it and...imagine that, I'm missing parts. Maybe I didn't call within the first 7 days. Who gives a fart! Be warned. I just got screwed. Credit card dispute to the rescue again. Ahh, this just pisses me off. I should get what I paid for. I don't lie. I know I didn't get the part. Speaking of not getting it. Don't these people know the customer (ME) is always right? I can't get away with this crap with my subs, that's for sure. Just so ya'll know, when I first called, the guy I talked to said it looked like it might not have been shipped. They would look into is and call me back. I was happy and thinking how I would post to the list and say how fast they helped me and solved my problem. Nope. Not today. I was promptly called back and blamed for their poor quality control. Also, where can I order a RB564 Daughterboard to replace the one the ups guy must have stole? Not wisp-router. Need it overnight. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] GPS Recievers
/lurk You should be able to get accuracy to 20 feet or better in most situations. I routinely get 15' accuracy with my GPSMAP 60C. 9' is not uncommon. The best I've seen it was last weekend, when I had 6' accuracy while out in the desert east of San Diego. I'm a big Garmin fan. Both GPS units I've owned were/are Garmins. I know a few people with Magellans and they're constantly complaining of accuracy issues and quality control (stress cracks in the housing, etc). To the original poster: Unless you can manage to get your hands on a military grade device, you're not likely to get sub-meter precision. lurk -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Re: wisp-router (THREAD CLOSED)
I'm actually thinking about it. But you know how hard it is just to be a WISP. Let alone getting screwed by vendors. I'll drop the topic. But the public DID need to know. Now they do. I'm done. Bye. Rick Harnish wrote: Brian, I will have to agree with Bob. This is not a court of law. WISPA has no interest in the trying of vendors on this list. This is a group of your peers and WISP-Router is not going to defend themselves in this forum. Therefore, please take this to an attorney and pursue your claims in a legal and appropriate manner. Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell 260-918-4340 VoIP www.oibw.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 7:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Re: wisp-router (THREAD CLOSED) My Opinion FYIThis is not appropriate list traffic. This post does absolutely nothing for the promotion of WISPA. -B- Brian Rohrbacher wrote: My opinion. FYI For those of you who remember this.. I am still fighting them. They disputed my dispute. LOL Who do they think they are to take my money and not send the product? Anyway, I will not give up on this. They will learn it's not ok to steal. Brian Rohrbacher wrote: Anyone ever have trouble with them. FYI They just informed me it is my fault they didn't ship me out what I paid for. I've never done anything with Mikrotik. I ordered what a friend told me to, I don't know what anything looks like, I assumed when I looked in the box it was all there. Well, I have Butch lined up an am ready to use it and...imagine that, I'm missing parts. Maybe I didn't call within the first 7 days. Who gives a fart! Be warned. I just got screwed. Credit card dispute to the rescue again. Ahh, this just pisses me off. I should get what I paid for. I don't lie. I know I didn't get the part. Speaking of not getting it. Don't these people know the customer (ME) is always right? I can't get away with this crap with my subs, that's for sure. Just so ya'll know, when I first called, the guy I talked to said it looked like it might not have been shipped. They would look into is and call me back. I was happy and thinking how I would post to the list and say how fast they helped me and solved my problem. Nope. Not today. I was promptly called back and blamed for their poor quality control. Also, where can I order a RB564 Daughterboard to replace the one the ups guy must have stole? Not wisp-router. Need it overnight. -- Brian Rohrbacher Reliable Internet, LLC www.reliableinter.net Cell 269-838-8338 Caught up in the Air 1 Thess. 4:17 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Re: wisp-router (THREAD CLOSED)
Brian I understand your pain. Can't tell you how many times over the years I've wanted to take a vendor etc to task on the list publicly. Even did it a couple times myself. Bet most others have had the same thoughts. One thing that I can tell you is, it does not do you any good after a while, there are lots of people who will have the opposite opinion and then it gets into a flame war and the attitudes pop up. Just think back to other people and their gripes with vendors or manufacturers and see what a nightmare it was for all. I personally feel that you should be able to discuss situations like yours, but we have to be careful not to beat it to death and piss a whole lot of people off who don't want to get involved or hear any more. So there is limit to how far you can post without crossing the line. I'd say one post to get it off your chest, maybe a 2nd to clear something up. But the 3rd post has to be the last post. Here on the WISPA list, something that I appreciate is that the vast majority of the post to the list are very positive and hardly ever is it a flame war. We really don't want negativity on the WISPA lists it turns people off and doesn't help. Hope this helps George Brian Rohrbacher wrote: I'm actually thinking about it. But you know how hard it is just to be a WISP. Let alone getting screwed by vendors. I'll drop the topic. But the public DID need to know. Now they do. I'm done. Bye. Rick Harnish wrote: Brian, I will have to agree with Bob. This is not a court of law. WISPA has no interest in the trying of vendors on this list. This is a group of your peers and WISP-Router is not going to defend themselves in this forum. Therefore, please take this to an attorney and pursue your claims in a legal and appropriate manner. Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell 260-918-4340 VoIP www.oibw.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 7:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Re: wisp-router (THREAD CLOSED) My Opinion FYIThis is not appropriate list traffic. This post does absolutely nothing for the promotion of WISPA. -B- Brian Rohrbacher wrote: My opinion. FYI For those of you who remember this.. I am still fighting them. They disputed my dispute. LOL Who do they think they are to take my money and not send the product? Anyway, I will not give up on this. They will learn it's not ok to steal. Brian Rohrbacher wrote: Anyone ever have trouble with them. FYI They just informed me it is my fault they didn't ship me out what I paid for. I've never done anything with Mikrotik. I ordered what a friend told me to, I don't know what anything looks like, I assumed when I looked in the box it was all there. Well, I have Butch lined up an am ready to use it and...imagine that, I'm missing parts. Maybe I didn't call within the first 7 days. Who gives a fart! Be warned. I just got screwed. Credit card dispute to the rescue again. Ahh, this just pisses me off. I should get what I paid for. I don't lie. I know I didn't get the part. Speaking of not getting it. Don't these people know the customer (ME) is always right? I can't get away with this crap with my subs, that's for sure. Just so ya'll know, when I first called, the guy I talked to said it looked like it might not have been shipped. They would look into is and call me back. I was happy and thinking how I would post to the list and say how fast they helped me and solved my problem. Nope. Not today. I was promptly called back and blamed for their poor quality control. Also, where can I order a RB564 Daughterboard to replace the one the ups guy must have stole? Not wisp-router. Need it overnight. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Re: wisp-router (THREAD CLOSED)
The thing is they don't stop. They even took my past posts from this list as proof and twisted the context. Sad. Ok, for real. I am done posting. George wrote: Brian I understand your pain. Can't tell you how many times over the years I've wanted to take a vendor etc to task on the list publicly. Even did it a couple times myself. Bet most others have had the same thoughts. One thing that I can tell you is, it does not do you any good after a while, there are lots of people who will have the opposite opinion and then it gets into a flame war and the attitudes pop up. Just think back to other people and their gripes with vendors or manufacturers and see what a nightmare it was for all. I personally feel that you should be able to discuss situations like yours, but we have to be careful not to beat it to death and piss a whole lot of people off who don't want to get involved or hear any more. So there is limit to how far you can post without crossing the line. I'd say one post to get it off your chest, maybe a 2nd to clear something up. But the 3rd post has to be the last post. Here on the WISPA list, something that I appreciate is that the vast majority of the post to the list are very positive and hardly ever is it a flame war. We really don't want negativity on the WISPA lists it turns people off and doesn't help. Hope this helps George Brian Rohrbacher wrote: I'm actually thinking about it. But you know how hard it is just to be a WISP. Let alone getting screwed by vendors. I'll drop the topic. But the public DID need to know. Now they do. I'm done. Bye. Rick Harnish wrote: Brian, I will have to agree with Bob. This is not a court of law. WISPA has no interest in the trying of vendors on this list. This is a group of your peers and WISP-Router is not going to defend themselves in this forum. Therefore, please take this to an attorney and pursue your claims in a legal and appropriate manner. Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell 260-918-4340 VoIP www.oibw.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 7:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Re: wisp-router (THREAD CLOSED) My Opinion FYIThis is not appropriate list traffic. This post does absolutely nothing for the promotion of WISPA. -B- Brian Rohrbacher wrote: My opinion. FYI For those of you who remember this.. I am still fighting them. They disputed my dispute. LOL Who do they think they are to take my money and not send the product? Anyway, I will not give up on this. They will learn it's not ok to steal. Brian Rohrbacher wrote: Anyone ever have trouble with them. FYI They just informed me it is my fault they didn't ship me out what I paid for. I've never done anything with Mikrotik. I ordered what a friend told me to, I don't know what anything looks like, I assumed when I looked in the box it was all there. Well, I have Butch lined up an am ready to use it and...imagine that, I'm missing parts. Maybe I didn't call within the first 7 days. Who gives a fart! Be warned. I just got screwed. Credit card dispute to the rescue again. Ahh, this just pisses me off. I should get what I paid for. I don't lie. I know I didn't get the part. Speaking of not getting it. Don't these people know the customer (ME) is always right? I can't get away with this crap with my subs, that's for sure. Just so ya'll know, when I first called, the guy I talked to said it looked like it might not have been shipped. They would look into is and call me back. I was happy and thinking how I would post to the list and say how fast they helped me and solved my problem. Nope. Not today. I was promptly called back and blamed for their poor quality control. Also, where can I order a RB564 Daughterboard to replace the one the ups guy must have stole? Not wisp-router. Need it overnight. -- Brian Rohrbacher Reliable Internet, LLC www.reliableinter.net Cell 269-838-8338 Caught up in the Air 1 Thess. 4:17 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
