Re: [WISPA] Frequency Question

2006-08-24 Thread George Rogato
Thanks John So the 5700 to 5500 is part of the 5400 that we are all waiting for? George John Scrivner wrote: The Military only for now. We will be able to under certain conditions if the NTIA would ever release the reference standard for developing testing of DFS and TPC for 5.4 to 5.7 GHz eq

Re: [WISPA] Frequency Question

2006-08-24 Thread John Scrivner
The Military only for now. We will be able to under certain conditions if the NTIA would ever release the reference standard for developing testing of DFS and TPC for 5.4 to 5.7 GHz equipment certification. Many hardware manufacturers have equipment ready once a testing standard is released. S

[WISPA] Frequency Question

2006-08-24 Thread George Rogato
Who is allowed to use 5700 to 5500 in the US? Thanks George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion - Cool ATPC feature

2006-08-24 Thread Jon Langeler
Those are very good features and have been around a while now but we still ended up ebaying all of our 900 gear. I think the fact that they still use csma/cd and don't include GPS support w/ every product line is what has stopped them from having that killer product... Jon Langeler Michwave Te

Re: [WISPA] WHY? ----- ooops!!!!

2006-08-24 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
When it comes to my customer's information and what they do, I use DKDC protocol. If a spook comes by asking for logs, they get the NOYB protocol. If they have a court order, they get FIOY protocol. Matt Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] DKDC=Dont Know, Dont Care NOYB=None Of Your Business FIOY=Figur

RE: [WISPA] WHY? ----- ooops!!!!

2006-08-24 Thread Jonathan Schmidt
...imagine if some entry were mistakenly interpreted and an innocent subscriber were to take the brunt of the terror-squad's wrath... especially if that subscriber was a fierce lawyer. . . . j o n a t h a n -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Sam

Re: [WISPA] WHY? ----- ooops!!!!

2006-08-24 Thread Sam Tetherow
Mark Koskenmaki wrote: I do not want the legal liability of being responsible for having such logs, keeping such logs, and having to prove such logs are absolutely accurate. That's just that part. Amen to that brother! Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless

Re: [WISPA] WHY?

2006-08-24 Thread Scott Reed
I don't know that I can even do that much, but I agree, it is not for me to fund data collection for the government. If they want data collected, I can make a switch port available and charge them co-location fees to house a system they provide.  As long as there is a law or court order, I have

Re: [WISPA] WHY?

2006-08-24 Thread Cliff Leboeuf
Title: Re: [WISPA] WHY? Right, start trying to charge BB for that! Next, they will require you to ‘buy’ an ISP license to operate to ‘pay you’ your co-lo fees. :-) On 8/24/06 3:23 PM, "Scott Reed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I don't know that I can even do that much, but I agree, it is not for

Re: [WISPA] WHY?

2006-08-24 Thread Travis Johnson
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[WISPA] Alvarion - Cool ATPC feature

2006-08-24 Thread Tom DeReggi
I'm going to save my 4.0 Firmware evaluation results for later, after I'm finished testing. But while working with ED Wyatt this past week, (ps. thanks Ed for the time), It reminded of some of the cool features that had existed in the Firmware (supported on V3 also) One that sticks out is the

Re: [WISPA] WHY?

2006-08-24 Thread Blair Davis
IMHO, this is real simple.. If you give me an IP, in near real-time or for a few months after, I can give you a user name and address, unless it was a free, public access use at one of our hotspots, in which case you are SOL. If it is 6 months ago or longer, if the user is still a custome

Re: [WISPA] WHY? ----- ooops!!!!

2006-08-24 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
- Original Message - From: "John Scrivner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 10:31 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] WHY? - ooops > I still think we need to keep this discussion going for a bit. I have a > question for you guys. Which do you thi

Re: [WISPA] WHY? ----- ooops!!!!

2006-08-24 Thread George Rogato
I've always told my customers that whatever they do on the net is not annonamous. And that they should assume someone is watching and is listening. I've kinda described privacy on the net is like being blindfolded at the local football stadium and thinking nobody is there, but then to find ou

Re: [WISPA] WHY?

2006-08-24 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
You want me to hang a $500 PC in a box on a non-penetrating roof mount? Current location has no power, only POE - at 100feet. Next location up is precisely the same... buildingtop with only POE power from inside. - Original Message - From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WIS

Re: [WISPA] WHY? ----- ooops!!!!

2006-08-24 Thread John Scrivner
I still think we need to keep this discussion going for a bit. I have a question for you guys. Which do you think is better for all concerned. Do you think we should portray a false sense of security and anonymity? Do you think we should tell our customers, "Hey do whatever you want online, nob

Re: [WISPA] Managing CPE in routed network

2006-08-24 Thread Lonnie Nunweiler
Are you actually carrying your traffic, with your own approved public IP assignment to several carriers and they accept and route that traffic to and from the Internet? Any time I requested that it was a very expensive proposition to have and they also only did large blocks of publics. I guess t

[WISPA] Qwest sorry their desire for anti-consumer regulation made public

2006-08-24 Thread George Rogato
Flip Flop Flip Flop Guess they are not sure if they are sorry the lawyer got it wrong or maybe they are sorry that they were uncovered... You decide. http://news.com.com/5208-1028-0.html?forumID=1&threadID=20499&messageID=177273&start=-1 Tim Kerns wrote: *Qwest on data retention laws: Oops

Re: [WISPA] WHY? ----- ooops!!!!

2006-08-24 Thread Tim Kerns
Qwest on data retention laws: Oops   http://news.com.com/Qwest+on+data+retention+laws+Oops/2100-1028-6108926.html?part=dht&tag=nl.e703   Looks like someone may be updating their resume.     - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson To: WISPA General List Sent: Thursd

Re: [WISPA] WHY?

2006-08-24 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, You have to connect to the internet backbone somewhere (even if in multiple locations, etc.). You would simply need a $500 PC at each connection. Pretty simple. Travis Microserv Mark Koskenmaki wrote: Travis, my network has no such "central" point. There is no point where my traffic

Re: [WISPA] Managing CPE in routed network

2006-08-24 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
In my case, all "servers" are in boxes in the air, on the roof, or otherwise. BGP needs to be in the regular AP version. - Original Message - From: "Lonnie Nunweiler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 11:51 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Managing C