RE: [WISPA] Covad Expands Broadband Wireless NetworkWithDataFloAcquisition

2006-10-15 Thread Gino A. Villarini
If I had a offer for 1.4x revenue in Cash, I would think about it... If I
had a offer for 1.7x cash, I would cash in 

Gino A. Villarini
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Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
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Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 11:42 AM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] Covad Expands Broadband Wireless
NetworkWithDataFloAcquisition

Out of curiosity -- how is 1.4x annual revenue considered "cheap"
Keep in mind...this is $$$ CASH $$$, not stock

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Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 9:54 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Covad Expands Broadband Wireless Network
WithDataFloAcquisition


Which sounds like to me, DataFlow was in a distressed state, doing a 
firesale..

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


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From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Covad Expands Broadband Wireless Network With 
DataFloAcquisition


> Does anyone know anything about DataFlo? According to the press
> release it
> appears they were bought for 1.4x revenue, which seems awfully cheap.
>
> -Matt
>
> Peter R. wrote:
>> Covad Communications Group Inc. announced it will acquire the assets
>> of
>> DataFlo Communications LLC, a Chicago-based broadband wireless provider, 
>> adding a sixth market to its coverage area.
>>
>> Covad will acquire substantially all the assets of DataFlo for 
>> approximately $1.4 million in cash. For the full 2006 year, DataFlo 
>> expects to generate approximately $1 million in revenue. In keeping 
>> with Covad's profitability goals, the transaction is EBITDA 
>> accretive. The transaction is expected to close later this month 
>> subject to customary closing conditions and regulatory approvals.
>>
>> Covad already offers broadband wireless to Los Angeles, San Diego,
>> San
>> Francisco, Orange County and Las Vegas through its wireless subsidiary 
>> NextWeb, which it acquired earlier this year.
>>
>> Speaking at the Internet Telephony Conference & Expo today, Claude 
>> Tolbert, Covad's senior vice president of product solutions planning 
>> and priorities, said the acquisition of NextWeb was primarily in 
>> response to regulatory uncertainty over the company's access to 
>> incumbent broadband networks. With that concern ameliorated, he said, 
>> the DataFlo deal is more of a continuation of an overlay network 
>> strategy.
>>
>> Broadband wireless allows the company to provide higher-capacity 
>> services. It can offer 100mbps on unlicensed band and 10mbps on 
>> licensed bands - speeds unavailable with DSL. Broadband wireless also 
>> enables Covad to turn up services more quickly, reducing intervals 
>> from 25 days for wireline to 10 days for wireless. It also enables 
>> the company to serve clientele with temporary needs.
>>
>> Tolbert said the DataFlo network is pre-WiMAX and serves businesses
>> via a
>> direct sales force. This distribution strategy, he added, will help Covad

>> to balance its predominantly wholesale focus.
>>
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[WISPA] OSPF routing question (nubie to OSPF)

2006-10-15 Thread rabbtux rabbtux

All,

I have a fully and manually routed network of 5-10 subnets.  I am
about to upgrade one of my backhaul links to 5G, and thought now might
be a time to get my feet wet with OSPF.  I clearly see how the manual
routing tables are not very scale-able.  Here is my one question
before I spend too much time including OSPF as part of the upgrade.

Can I run OSPF on a system that has my manual static routes, but OSPF
is attached to a new interface.  At the other end of the new
interface, is an OSPF interface on another manually routed system.
Would this work?  This way I could preserve network stability by
changing only one small part of the network and OSPF.  Later, I could
remove some of my manual routes and add OSPF to other routers.

Is this possible?  Is this a practical way to migrate away from static
routing?  Any better suggestions?

Thanks in advance,

Marshall
Rabbit Meadows Technology
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Re: [WISPA] StarOS/WRAP/CM9 Issue

2006-10-15 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
I had something vaguely similar happen...   The radio would stop passing
data.   It turned out to be a client at around 10 miles that had set his cpe
for G mode and was rapidly bouncing back and forth between G and B and up
and down speedwise.

Set him to B and no more misbehaving.



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From: "KyWiFi LLC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 12:46 PM
Subject: [WISPA] StarOS/WRAP/CM9 Issue


> We are experiencing a recurring problem with one of the WRAP
> boards running StarOS with CM-9 cards in our network. The problem
> initially started out with the board locking up every 3 - 4 days like
> clockwork. The problem was resolved by an onsite reboot because
> I was unable to login to the board and it was unresponsive after it
> locked up. After several onsite visits over the past month and after
> replacing the power supply, poe injector and Cat5 surge protectors
> on both ends of the Cat5, I decided that it was a bad WRAP board
> so I replaced it with a new one. To be on the safe side, I re-configured
> the board manually without uploading the server.dat backup file. The
> board worked fine for a week and then the clients on wpci1 lost their
> connection. I was able to login to the board and reboot it this time but
> the reboot did not resolve the issue. None of the clients on this CM-9
> were able to re-associate to it following the reboot. The issue was
resolved
> by replacing that particular CM-9 card with a new one. Well, a week later,
> it is doing the same exact thing again. The other CM-9 is working properly
> as it is serving a BH link to one of our other sites. The signal on it is
normal
> and clients are passing traffic through it (wpci2) normally. Has anyone
> experienced this type of problem in their own network? At this point, I am
> thinking we received a bad batch of CM-9 cards or there is a problem with
> the Cat5. Being that it is happening with the same card slot (wpci1) I
honestly
> do not feel it is a Cat5 related issue so I'm leaning more towards it
being
> a bad batch of CM-9 cards or defective WRAP board. Any tips on further
> troubleshooting this issue? What are the odds of it being a problem with
> the Cat5 cable?
>
>
> Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
> KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
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[WISPA] StarOS/WRAP/CM9 Issue

2006-10-15 Thread KyWiFi LLC
We are experiencing a recurring problem with one of the WRAP
boards running StarOS with CM-9 cards in our network. The problem
initially started out with the board locking up every 3 - 4 days like
clockwork. The problem was resolved by an onsite reboot because
I was unable to login to the board and it was unresponsive after it
locked up. After several onsite visits over the past month and after
replacing the power supply, poe injector and Cat5 surge protectors
on both ends of the Cat5, I decided that it was a bad WRAP board
so I replaced it with a new one. To be on the safe side, I re-configured
the board manually without uploading the server.dat backup file. The
board worked fine for a week and then the clients on wpci1 lost their
connection. I was able to login to the board and reboot it this time but
the reboot did not resolve the issue. None of the clients on this CM-9
were able to re-associate to it following the reboot. The issue was resolved
by replacing that particular CM-9 card with a new one. Well, a week later,
it is doing the same exact thing again. The other CM-9 is working properly
as it is serving a BH link to one of our other sites. The signal on it is normal
and clients are passing traffic through it (wpci2) normally. Has anyone
experienced this type of problem in their own network? At this point, I am
thinking we received a bad batch of CM-9 cards or there is a problem with
the Cat5. Being that it is happening with the same card slot (wpci1) I honestly
do not feel it is a Cat5 related issue so I'm leaning more towards it being
a bad batch of CM-9 cards or defective WRAP board. Any tips on further
troubleshooting this issue? What are the odds of it being a problem with
the Cat5 cable?


Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
"Your Hometown Broadband Provider"
http://www.KyWiFi.com
Call Us Today: 859.274.4033
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RE: [WISPA] Covad ExpandsBroadbandWirelessNetworkWithDataFloAcquisition

2006-10-15 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Sorry, please ignore, reply to wrong message.
 

Faisal Imtiaz
Computer Office Solutions Inc. /SnappyDSL.net
Ph: (305) 663-5518 
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Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 1:18 PM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] Covad
ExpandsBroadbandWirelessNetworkWithDataFloAcquisition

Can u tell me where u can be reached ?

Thanks. 


Faisal Imtiaz
Computer Office Solutions Inc. /SnappyDSL.net
Ph: (305) 663-5518
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Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 12:53 PM
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BroadbandWirelessNetworkWithDataFloAcquisition

I guess... If you want to give your company away.
Your WISP is for sale, I believe- would you take that if offered?
I'm sure Matt wants to expand his network up thataway .
 

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Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 12:41 PM
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WirelessNetworkWithDataFloAcquisition

To us on the "inside" (ISP owners/operators), 1.4x annual revenue sounds
cheap but when you are on the "outside" it is not so cheap.
I know we would sell our ISP for this amount but there are very few
qualified buyers in the ISP marketplace at this time these few are looking
for <1x annual revenue type deals. So, 1.4x annual revenue is actually
really good considering the market at this time.


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Re: [WISPA] Covad Expands BroadbandWirelessNetworkWithDataFloAcquisition

2006-10-15 Thread KyWiFi LLC
Yes, our WISP is for sale and yes, we would consider selling
out for 1.4x annual revenue. This amount would basically just
cover our investment into the company so yes, it would be a
"giveaway" for the most part. If anyone is interested, contact me
off list for a NDA.

The only reason we are wanting to sell is because my partner
and I each own other businesses and all of them are doing very
well. My partner is not able to devote more than a few hours a
month to our WISP so I am the one left wearing all of the hats
and spending the time running it. It's just not an equal partnership
based on the money we each invested to start it so this is why
we would like to sell it. This is the first and last partnership I will
ever be involved with. If I can't do it myself or pay someone
to do it for me then it is not a good fit IMO.


Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
"Your Hometown Broadband Provider"
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Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 12:52 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Covad Expands 
BroadbandWirelessNetworkWithDataFloAcquisition


I guess... If you want to give your company away.
Your WISP is for sale, I believe- would you take that if offered?
I'm sure Matt wants to expand his network up thataway .
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of KyWiFi LLC
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 12:41 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Covad Expands Broadband
WirelessNetworkWithDataFloAcquisition

To us on the "inside" (ISP owners/operators), 1.4x annual revenue sounds
cheap but when you are on the "outside" it is not so cheap.
I know we would sell our ISP for this amount but there are very few
qualified buyers in the ISP marketplace at this time these few are looking
for <1x annual revenue type deals. So, 1.4x annual revenue is actually
really good considering the market at this time.


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RE: [WISPA] Covad Expands BroadbandWirelessNetworkWithDataFloAcquisition

2006-10-15 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Can u tell me where u can be reached ?

Thanks. 


Faisal Imtiaz
Computer Office Solutions Inc. /SnappyDSL.net
Ph: (305) 663-5518 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of rwf
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 12:53 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Covad Expands
BroadbandWirelessNetworkWithDataFloAcquisition

I guess... If you want to give your company away.
Your WISP is for sale, I believe- would you take that if offered?
I'm sure Matt wants to expand his network up thataway .
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of KyWiFi LLC
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 12:41 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Covad Expands Broadband
WirelessNetworkWithDataFloAcquisition

To us on the "inside" (ISP owners/operators), 1.4x annual revenue sounds
cheap but when you are on the "outside" it is not so cheap.
I know we would sell our ISP for this amount but there are very few
qualified buyers in the ISP marketplace at this time these few are looking
for <1x annual revenue type deals. So, 1.4x annual revenue is actually
really good considering the market at this time.


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RE: [WISPA] Covad Expands Broadband WirelessNetworkWithDataFloAcquisition

2006-10-15 Thread rwf
I guess... If you want to give your company away.
Your WISP is for sale, I believe- would you take that if offered?
I'm sure Matt wants to expand his network up thataway .
 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of KyWiFi LLC
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 12:41 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Covad Expands Broadband
WirelessNetworkWithDataFloAcquisition

To us on the "inside" (ISP owners/operators), 1.4x annual revenue sounds
cheap but when you are on the "outside" it is not so cheap.
I know we would sell our ISP for this amount but there are very few
qualified buyers in the ISP marketplace at this time these few are looking
for <1x annual revenue type deals. So, 1.4x annual revenue is actually
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Re: [WISPA] Covad Expands Broadband Wireless NetworkWithDataFloAcquisition

2006-10-15 Thread KyWiFi LLC
To us on the "inside" (ISP owners/operators), 1.4x annual revenue
sounds cheap but when you are on the "outside" it is not so cheap.
I know we would sell our ISP for this amount but there are very few
qualified buyers in the ISP marketplace at this time these few are
looking for <1x annual revenue type deals. So, 1.4x annual revenue
is actually really good considering the market at this time.


Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
"Your Hometown Broadband Provider"
http://www.KyWiFi.com
Call Us Today: 859.274.4033
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$14.99 Home Phone Service
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From: "Charles Wu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 11:42 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Covad Expands Broadband Wireless 
NetworkWithDataFloAcquisition


Out of curiosity -- how is 1.4x annual revenue considered "cheap"
Keep in mind...this is $$$ CASH $$$, not stock

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 9:54 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Covad Expands Broadband Wireless Network
WithDataFloAcquisition


Which sounds like to me, DataFlow was in a distressed state, doing a 
firesale..

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Covad Expands Broadband Wireless Network With 
DataFloAcquisition


> Does anyone know anything about DataFlo? According to the press
> release it
> appears they were bought for 1.4x revenue, which seems awfully cheap.
>
> -Matt
>
> Peter R. wrote:
>> Covad Communications Group Inc. announced it will acquire the assets
>> of
>> DataFlo Communications LLC, a Chicago-based broadband wireless provider, 
>> adding a sixth market to its coverage area.
>>
>> Covad will acquire substantially all the assets of DataFlo for 
>> approximately $1.4 million in cash. For the full 2006 year, DataFlo 
>> expects to generate approximately $1 million in revenue. In keeping 
>> with Covad's profitability goals, the transaction is EBITDA 
>> accretive. The transaction is expected to close later this month 
>> subject to customary closing conditions and regulatory approvals.
>>
>> Covad already offers broadband wireless to Los Angeles, San Diego,
>> San
>> Francisco, Orange County and Las Vegas through its wireless subsidiary 
>> NextWeb, which it acquired earlier this year.
>>
>> Speaking at the Internet Telephony Conference & Expo today, Claude 
>> Tolbert, Covad's senior vice president of product solutions planning 
>> and priorities, said the acquisition of NextWeb was primarily in 
>> response to regulatory uncertainty over the company's access to 
>> incumbent broadband networks. With that concern ameliorated, he said, 
>> the DataFlo deal is more of a continuation of an overlay network 
>> strategy.
>>
>> Broadband wireless allows the company to provide higher-capacity 
>> services. It can offer 100mbps on unlicensed band and 10mbps on 
>> licensed bands - speeds unavailable with DSL. Broadband wireless also 
>> enables Covad to turn up services more quickly, reducing intervals 
>> from 25 days for wireline to 10 days for wireless. It also enables 
>> the company to serve clientele with temporary needs.
>>
>> Tolbert said the DataFlo network is pre-WiMAX and serves businesses
>> via a
>> direct sales force. This distribution strategy, he added, will help Covad

>> to balance its predominantly wholesale focus.
>>
>
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RE: [WISPA] Covad Expands Broadband Wireless NetworkWithDataFloAcquisition

2006-10-15 Thread Charles Wu
I believe that Doug (owner of Dataflo) is a member of this list (or maybe
it's isp-wireless), but I think it's better to let him speak for himself

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-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 9:44 PM
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NetworkWithDataFloAcquisition


DataFlo, What city are they based out of, Chicago?
Were they bought because they were failing and got a good deal, or because 
they were flourishing?

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: "Charles Wu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 5:40 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Covad Expands Broadband Wireless Network 
WithDataFloAcquisition


>I love this...
>
> [quote]
> "Broadband wireless allows the company to provide higher-capacity
> services.
> It can offer 100mbps on unlicensed band and 10mbps on licensed bands -
> speeds unavailable with DSL. Broadband wireless also enables "
> [/quote]
>
> -Charles
>
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>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> On Behalf Of Peter R.
> Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 9:47 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] Covad Expands Broadband Wireless Network With 
> DataFloAcquisition
>
>
> Covad Communications Group Inc. announced it will acquire the assets 
> of DataFlo Communications LLC, a Chicago-based broadband wireless 
> provider, adding a sixth market to its coverage area.
>
> Covad will acquire substantially all the assets of DataFlo for 
> approximately $1.4 million in cash. For the full 2006 year, DataFlo 
> expects to generate approximately $1 million in revenue. In keeping 
> with Covad's profitability goals, the transaction is EBITDA accretive. 
> The transaction is expected to close later this month subject to 
> customary closing conditions and regulatory approvals.
>
> Covad already offers broadband wireless to Los Angeles, San Diego, San 
> Francisco, Orange County and Las Vegas through its wireless subsidiary 
> NextWeb, which it acquired earlier this year.
>
> Speaking at the Internet Telephony Conference & Expo today, Claude 
> Tolbert, Covad's senior vice president of product solutions planning 
> and priorities, said the acquisition of NextWeb was primarily in 
> response to regulatory uncertainty over the company's access to 
> incumbent broadband networks. With that concern ameliorated, he said, 
> the DataFlo deal is more of a continuation of an overlay network 
> strategy.
>
> Broadband wireless allows the company to provide higher-capacity 
> services. It can offer 100mbps on unlicensed band and 10mbps on 
> licensed bands - speeds unavailable with DSL. Broadband wireless also 
> enables Covad to turn up services more quickly, reducing intervals 
> from 25 days for wireline to 10 days for wireless. It also enables the 
> company to serve clientele with temporary needs.
>
> Tolbert said the DataFlo network is pre-WiMAX and serves businesses 
> via a direct sales force. This distribution strategy, he added, will 
> help Covad to balance its predominantly wholesale focus.
>
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RE: [WISPA] Covad Expands Broadband Wireless Network WithDataFloAcquisition

2006-10-15 Thread Charles Wu
Out of curiosity -- how is 1.4x annual revenue considered "cheap"
Keep in mind...this is $$$ CASH $$$, not stock

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WithDataFloAcquisition


Which sounds like to me, DataFlow was in a distressed state, doing a 
firesale..

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


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From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Covad Expands Broadband Wireless Network With 
DataFloAcquisition


> Does anyone know anything about DataFlo? According to the press
> release it
> appears they were bought for 1.4x revenue, which seems awfully cheap.
>
> -Matt
>
> Peter R. wrote:
>> Covad Communications Group Inc. announced it will acquire the assets
>> of
>> DataFlo Communications LLC, a Chicago-based broadband wireless provider, 
>> adding a sixth market to its coverage area.
>>
>> Covad will acquire substantially all the assets of DataFlo for 
>> approximately $1.4 million in cash. For the full 2006 year, DataFlo 
>> expects to generate approximately $1 million in revenue. In keeping 
>> with Covad's profitability goals, the transaction is EBITDA 
>> accretive. The transaction is expected to close later this month 
>> subject to customary closing conditions and regulatory approvals.
>>
>> Covad already offers broadband wireless to Los Angeles, San Diego,
>> San
>> Francisco, Orange County and Las Vegas through its wireless subsidiary 
>> NextWeb, which it acquired earlier this year.
>>
>> Speaking at the Internet Telephony Conference & Expo today, Claude 
>> Tolbert, Covad's senior vice president of product solutions planning 
>> and priorities, said the acquisition of NextWeb was primarily in 
>> response to regulatory uncertainty over the company's access to 
>> incumbent broadband networks. With that concern ameliorated, he said, 
>> the DataFlo deal is more of a continuation of an overlay network 
>> strategy.
>>
>> Broadband wireless allows the company to provide higher-capacity 
>> services. It can offer 100mbps on unlicensed band and 10mbps on 
>> licensed bands - speeds unavailable with DSL. Broadband wireless also 
>> enables Covad to turn up services more quickly, reducing intervals 
>> from 25 days for wireline to 10 days for wireless. It also enables 
>> the company to serve clientele with temporary needs.
>>
>> Tolbert said the DataFlo network is pre-WiMAX and serves businesses
>> via a
>> direct sales force. This distribution strategy, he added, will help Covad

>> to balance its predominantly wholesale focus.
>>
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RE: [WISPA] Covad Expands Broadband Wireless Network WithDataFloAcquisition

2006-10-15 Thread Brad Belton
Possibly, but if DataFlo was in distress then why would Covad want to buy
them?  Could have been DataFlow's HUB locations and existing foothold in a
market etc.  

Covad certainly has the ability to buy profitable operations.  As crappy as
1.4x revenue sounds to people that are making a substantial profit in this
industry it may have been the deal of the century for DataFlo.  They might
have just been breaking even etc.  Revenue doesn't say much of anything
about a company IMO.  Bottom line profits are all that really matter.

Best,

Brad


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Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 9:54 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Covad Expands Broadband Wireless Network
WithDataFloAcquisition

Which sounds like to me, DataFlow was in a distressed state, doing a 
firesale..

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Covad Expands Broadband Wireless Network With 
DataFloAcquisition


> Does anyone know anything about DataFlo? According to the press release it

> appears they were bought for 1.4x revenue, which seems awfully cheap.
>
> -Matt
>
> Peter R. wrote:
>> Covad Communications Group Inc. announced it will acquire the assets of 
>> DataFlo Communications LLC, a Chicago-based broadband wireless provider, 
>> adding a sixth market to its coverage area.
>>
>> Covad will acquire substantially all the assets of DataFlo for 
>> approximately $1.4 million in cash. For the full 2006 year, DataFlo 
>> expects to generate approximately $1 million in revenue. In keeping with 
>> Covad's profitability goals, the transaction is EBITDA accretive. The 
>> transaction is expected to close later this month subject to customary 
>> closing conditions and regulatory approvals.
>>
>> Covad already offers broadband wireless to Los Angeles, San Diego, San 
>> Francisco, Orange County and Las Vegas through its wireless subsidiary 
>> NextWeb, which it acquired earlier this year.
>>
>> Speaking at the Internet Telephony Conference & Expo today, Claude 
>> Tolbert, Covad's senior vice president of product solutions planning and 
>> priorities, said the acquisition of NextWeb was primarily in response to 
>> regulatory uncertainty over the company's access to incumbent broadband 
>> networks. With that concern ameliorated, he said, the DataFlo deal is 
>> more of a continuation of an overlay network strategy.
>>
>> Broadband wireless allows the company to provide higher-capacity 
>> services. It can offer 100mbps on unlicensed band and 10mbps on licensed 
>> bands - speeds unavailable with DSL. Broadband wireless also enables 
>> Covad to turn up services more quickly, reducing intervals from 25 days 
>> for wireline to 10 days for wireless. It also enables the company to 
>> serve clientele with temporary needs.
>>
>> Tolbert said the DataFlo network is pre-WiMAX and serves businesses via a

>> direct sales force. This distribution strategy, he added, will help Covad

>> to balance its predominantly wholesale focus.
>>
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