[WISPA] ISPCON Conference Call

2006-11-13 Thread Peter R.

You have been reading the blog notes about this Fall's exciting ISPCON
(http://radinfo.blogspot.com/), but tomorrow (Tuesday, Nov. 14) at 3 PM
Eastern you can talk to me about it. I didn't hit every session - but I
tried to! So look at the ISPCON website (www.ispcon.com) to see if any 
of  the session topics interest you - and I will be happy to share what 
I heard about it.   RSVP for the conference bridge.


Thank you.

Regards,

Peter Radizeski
RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist
We Help ISPs Connect  Communicate
813.963.5884  efax 530-323-7025
http://4isps.com




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[WISPA] 1.3Ghz spectrum

2006-11-13 Thread Norman Schippert
Any word on who is going after this spectrum in the upcoming auctions on
February 7th?
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RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!

2006-11-13 Thread Paul Hendry
Did it not get sent to the list? Anyone forward it offlist?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jason Hensley
Sent: 13 November 2006 14:53
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!

I got it here.  It looks like a great program, but Patrick, why only the 5.8

gear included in this?  Doesn't help us out much where we have TONS of 
trees, right?  Why no 2.4 or 900 gear included in the program too?



- Original Message - 
From: Paul Hendry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 5:28 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!


 It's Monday morning ;)

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Patrick Leary
 Sent: 10 November 2006 22:29
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!

 On Monday morning a mail will hit the WISPA list (sent via WISPA's ad
 mechanism, not as a post) that will have a letter from me. Within that
 will be a link to a jump page where you can get access to the detailed
 pdf. This version of pdf will have more price details than the one
 distributed at the WISPA meeting, so those 30 or so of you that received
 a hard copy the other night may want to pull down the other one.

 Everything will be ready and waiting.

 Patrick Leary
 AVP WISP Markets
 Alvarion, Inc.
 o: 650.314.2628
 c: 760.580.0080
 Vonage: 650.641.1243
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
 Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 1:36 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!

 Sorry, I have not responded sooner guy, but I kept missing opportunities
 to
 connect to the Internet.
 The reason I did not post details on the List, is that the pricing and
 program is a deal designed and offered ONLY to WISPs, and I was not sure

 what part of it was suppsoed to be confidential or Open to disclose.

 The program is for the existing VL product line, the one you always
 wanted
 to buy, but thought you could never afford.
 There are volume commits involved, but they are VERY minimal. The Plan
 is
 not just about pricing, it also includes additonal support for WISPs via

 online content and such.  When you learn about it, you will see why I
 was so
 excited.  This program is something that never could have happened
 without
 someone like Patrick Leary behind it, who fully understands the needs of

 WISPs, and went to bat for us.

 What I liked about the program is that it came from the principle of how
 can
 they help us, help ourselves as a group, and ultimately reach higher
 volume
 of product deployment (For mutual benefit). Understand that this is Best
 of
 Breed product, at the top of the pyramid, so sod course set realistic
 expectations that their is no justification for the program to compete
 against $99 CB3 boxes. But it now allows a WISP to make decisions based
 on
 whether the features and design of the product is the best product for
 the
 job, rather than having to make selection based on price. It allows a
 WISP
 to step up their operations a couple notches, and puts FCC certified /
 carrier class gear within their reach.

 Disclaimer: The fact that I am impressed by the Alvarion program, and
 without a doubt will be participating in this program personally, does
 not
 take away the value that other manufacturer's products may also deliver.

 But I now can make my decissions based on the merit of the individual
 product lines, for the appropriate locations.  Alvarion is not the
 appropriate product for all my needs, but I know where I do need it, and

 I've been waiting for this day for that opportunity.

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message - 
 From: Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 8:14 AM
 Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!


 Ok, then put is on the paid member list, or tell me offlist.  :)  The
 suspense is killing me.  :)

 Brian

 Rick Smith wrote:

yeah, tom, don't post a book, but give us details.

I'm sure Patrick will be chiming in on this one.

I love Alvarion gear.  Just can't afford it.  Mikrotik's just as good,
 if
not
better at some things, but sometimes I'd just love a DS11 backhaul
everywhere...or bigger. :)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On
Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 4:27 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!

No details on the website...

Gino A. Villarini
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 3:41 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: 

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!

2006-11-13 Thread Rick Harnish
Paul,

Patrick said they will make an announcement.  We don't feel that it is
WISPA's place to make this public announcement until it is sent to us for
dispersal.  I'm sure there are legal ramifications that could come from
pre-announcement releases.  I strongly advise those who have been privy to
the initial release at ISPCON to refrain from sending it to the list.
Please be patient as Patrick works on California time and it is still
morning out there.  

Respectfully,

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband  Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482
Founding Member of WISPA

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Paul Hendry
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 1:44 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!

Did it not get sent to the list? Anyone forward it offlist?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jason Hensley
Sent: 13 November 2006 14:53
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!

I got it here.  It looks like a great program, but Patrick, why only the 5.8

gear included in this?  Doesn't help us out much where we have TONS of 
trees, right?  Why no 2.4 or 900 gear included in the program too?



- Original Message - 
From: Paul Hendry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 5:28 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!


 It's Monday morning ;)

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Patrick Leary
 Sent: 10 November 2006 22:29
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!

 On Monday morning a mail will hit the WISPA list (sent via WISPA's ad
 mechanism, not as a post) that will have a letter from me. Within that
 will be a link to a jump page where you can get access to the detailed
 pdf. This version of pdf will have more price details than the one
 distributed at the WISPA meeting, so those 30 or so of you that received
 a hard copy the other night may want to pull down the other one.

 Everything will be ready and waiting.

 Patrick Leary
 AVP WISP Markets
 Alvarion, Inc.
 o: 650.314.2628
 c: 760.580.0080
 Vonage: 650.641.1243
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
 Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 1:36 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!

 Sorry, I have not responded sooner guy, but I kept missing opportunities
 to
 connect to the Internet.
 The reason I did not post details on the List, is that the pricing and
 program is a deal designed and offered ONLY to WISPs, and I was not sure

 what part of it was suppsoed to be confidential or Open to disclose.

 The program is for the existing VL product line, the one you always
 wanted
 to buy, but thought you could never afford.
 There are volume commits involved, but they are VERY minimal. The Plan
 is
 not just about pricing, it also includes additonal support for WISPs via

 online content and such.  When you learn about it, you will see why I
 was so
 excited.  This program is something that never could have happened
 without
 someone like Patrick Leary behind it, who fully understands the needs of

 WISPs, and went to bat for us.

 What I liked about the program is that it came from the principle of how
 can
 they help us, help ourselves as a group, and ultimately reach higher
 volume
 of product deployment (For mutual benefit). Understand that this is Best
 of
 Breed product, at the top of the pyramid, so sod course set realistic
 expectations that their is no justification for the program to compete
 against $99 CB3 boxes. But it now allows a WISP to make decisions based
 on
 whether the features and design of the product is the best product for
 the
 job, rather than having to make selection based on price. It allows a
 WISP
 to step up their operations a couple notches, and puts FCC certified /
 carrier class gear within their reach.

 Disclaimer: The fact that I am impressed by the Alvarion program, and
 without a doubt will be participating in this program personally, does
 not
 take away the value that other manufacturer's products may also deliver.

 But I now can make my decissions based on the merit of the individual
 product lines, for the appropriate locations.  Alvarion is not the
 appropriate product for all my needs, but I know where I do need it, and

 I've been waiting for this day for that opportunity.

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message - 
 From: Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 8:14 AM
 Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!


 Ok, then put is on the paid member list, or tell me offlist.  :)  The
 suspense is killing me.  :)

 Brian

 Rick Smith wrote:

yeah, tom, don't post a 

Re: *** Spam *** RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!

2006-11-13 Thread Brian Rohrbacher

It has not been seen on any list yet.  (not the 6-8 I'm on)

Paul Hendry wrote:


Did it not get sent to the list? Anyone forward it offlist?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jason Hensley
Sent: 13 November 2006 14:53
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!

I got it here.  It looks like a great program, but Patrick, why only the 5.8

gear included in this?  Doesn't help us out much where we have TONS of 
trees, right?  Why no 2.4 or 900 gear included in the program too?




- Original Message - 
From: Paul Hendry [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 5:28 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!


 


It's Monday morning ;)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: 10 November 2006 22:29
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!

On Monday morning a mail will hit the WISPA list (sent via WISPA's ad
mechanism, not as a post) that will have a letter from me. Within that
will be a link to a jump page where you can get access to the detailed
pdf. This version of pdf will have more price details than the one
distributed at the WISPA meeting, so those 30 or so of you that received
a hard copy the other night may want to pull down the other one.

Everything will be ready and waiting.

Patrick Leary
AVP WISP Markets
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 1:36 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!

Sorry, I have not responded sooner guy, but I kept missing opportunities
to
connect to the Internet.
The reason I did not post details on the List, is that the pricing and
program is a deal designed and offered ONLY to WISPs, and I was not sure

what part of it was suppsoed to be confidential or Open to disclose.

The program is for the existing VL product line, the one you always
wanted
to buy, but thought you could never afford.
There are volume commits involved, but they are VERY minimal. The Plan
is
not just about pricing, it also includes additonal support for WISPs via

online content and such.  When you learn about it, you will see why I
was so
excited.  This program is something that never could have happened
without
someone like Patrick Leary behind it, who fully understands the needs of

WISPs, and went to bat for us.

What I liked about the program is that it came from the principle of how
can
they help us, help ourselves as a group, and ultimately reach higher
volume
of product deployment (For mutual benefit). Understand that this is Best
of
Breed product, at the top of the pyramid, so sod course set realistic
expectations that their is no justification for the program to compete
against $99 CB3 boxes. But it now allows a WISP to make decisions based
on
whether the features and design of the product is the best product for
the
job, rather than having to make selection based on price. It allows a
WISP
to step up their operations a couple notches, and puts FCC certified /
carrier class gear within their reach.

Disclaimer: The fact that I am impressed by the Alvarion program, and
without a doubt will be participating in this program personally, does
not
take away the value that other manufacturer's products may also deliver.

But I now can make my decissions based on the merit of the individual
product lines, for the appropriate locations.  Alvarion is not the
appropriate product for all my needs, but I know where I do need it, and

I've been waiting for this day for that opportunity.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 8:14 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!


   


Ok, then put is on the paid member list, or tell me offlist.  :)  The
suspense is killing me.  :)

Brian

Rick Smith wrote:

 


yeah, tom, don't post a book, but give us details.

I'm sure Patrick will be chiming in on this one.

I love Alvarion gear.  Just can't afford it.  Mikrotik's just as good,
   


if
   


not
better at some things, but sometimes I'd just love a DS11 backhaul
everywhere...or bigger. :)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   


On
   


Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 4:27 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!

No details on the website...

Gino A. Villarini
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   


On
   


Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: 

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!

2006-11-13 Thread Paul Hendry
Thanks guys.

Patrick, is there a reason this is only available to the US?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Paul Hendry
Sent: 13 November 2006 18:44
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!

Did it not get sent to the list? Anyone forward it offlist?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jason Hensley
Sent: 13 November 2006 14:53
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!

I got it here.  It looks like a great program, but Patrick, why only the 5.8

gear included in this?  Doesn't help us out much where we have TONS of 
trees, right?  Why no 2.4 or 900 gear included in the program too?



- Original Message - 
From: Paul Hendry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 5:28 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!


 It's Monday morning ;)

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Patrick Leary
 Sent: 10 November 2006 22:29
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!

 On Monday morning a mail will hit the WISPA list (sent via WISPA's ad
 mechanism, not as a post) that will have a letter from me. Within that
 will be a link to a jump page where you can get access to the detailed
 pdf. This version of pdf will have more price details than the one
 distributed at the WISPA meeting, so those 30 or so of you that received
 a hard copy the other night may want to pull down the other one.

 Everything will be ready and waiting.

 Patrick Leary
 AVP WISP Markets
 Alvarion, Inc.
 o: 650.314.2628
 c: 760.580.0080
 Vonage: 650.641.1243
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
 Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 1:36 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!

 Sorry, I have not responded sooner guy, but I kept missing opportunities
 to
 connect to the Internet.
 The reason I did not post details on the List, is that the pricing and
 program is a deal designed and offered ONLY to WISPs, and I was not sure

 what part of it was suppsoed to be confidential or Open to disclose.

 The program is for the existing VL product line, the one you always
 wanted
 to buy, but thought you could never afford.
 There are volume commits involved, but they are VERY minimal. The Plan
 is
 not just about pricing, it also includes additonal support for WISPs via

 online content and such.  When you learn about it, you will see why I
 was so
 excited.  This program is something that never could have happened
 without
 someone like Patrick Leary behind it, who fully understands the needs of

 WISPs, and went to bat for us.

 What I liked about the program is that it came from the principle of how
 can
 they help us, help ourselves as a group, and ultimately reach higher
 volume
 of product deployment (For mutual benefit). Understand that this is Best
 of
 Breed product, at the top of the pyramid, so sod course set realistic
 expectations that their is no justification for the program to compete
 against $99 CB3 boxes. But it now allows a WISP to make decisions based
 on
 whether the features and design of the product is the best product for
 the
 job, rather than having to make selection based on price. It allows a
 WISP
 to step up their operations a couple notches, and puts FCC certified /
 carrier class gear within their reach.

 Disclaimer: The fact that I am impressed by the Alvarion program, and
 without a doubt will be participating in this program personally, does
 not
 take away the value that other manufacturer's products may also deliver.

 But I now can make my decissions based on the merit of the individual
 product lines, for the appropriate locations.  Alvarion is not the
 appropriate product for all my needs, but I know where I do need it, and

 I've been waiting for this day for that opportunity.

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message - 
 From: Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 8:14 AM
 Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!


 Ok, then put is on the paid member list, or tell me offlist.  :)  The
 suspense is killing me.  :)

 Brian

 Rick Smith wrote:

yeah, tom, don't post a book, but give us details.

I'm sure Patrick will be chiming in on this one.

I love Alvarion gear.  Just can't afford it.  Mikrotik's just as good,
 if
not
better at some things, but sometimes I'd just love a DS11 backhaul
everywhere...or bigger. :)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On
Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 4:27 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!

No details on the website...

Gino A. 

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!

2006-11-13 Thread John Scrivner

I m still waiting on the copy from Alvarion. Once I get it you will get it.
Thanks!
Scriv


Paul Hendry wrote:


Did it not get sent to the list? Anyone forward it offlist?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jason Hensley
Sent: 13 November 2006 14:53
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!

I got it here.  It looks like a great program, but Patrick, why only the 5.8

gear included in this?  Doesn't help us out much where we have TONS of 
trees, right?  Why no 2.4 or 900 gear included in the program too?




- Original Message - 
From: Paul Hendry [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 5:28 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!


 


It's Monday morning ;)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: 10 November 2006 22:29
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!

On Monday morning a mail will hit the WISPA list (sent via WISPA's ad
mechanism, not as a post) that will have a letter from me. Within that
will be a link to a jump page where you can get access to the detailed
pdf. This version of pdf will have more price details than the one
distributed at the WISPA meeting, so those 30 or so of you that received
a hard copy the other night may want to pull down the other one.

Everything will be ready and waiting.

Patrick Leary
AVP WISP Markets
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 1:36 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!

Sorry, I have not responded sooner guy, but I kept missing opportunities
to
connect to the Internet.
The reason I did not post details on the List, is that the pricing and
program is a deal designed and offered ONLY to WISPs, and I was not sure

what part of it was suppsoed to be confidential or Open to disclose.

The program is for the existing VL product line, the one you always
wanted
to buy, but thought you could never afford.
There are volume commits involved, but they are VERY minimal. The Plan
is
not just about pricing, it also includes additonal support for WISPs via

online content and such.  When you learn about it, you will see why I
was so
excited.  This program is something that never could have happened
without
someone like Patrick Leary behind it, who fully understands the needs of

WISPs, and went to bat for us.

What I liked about the program is that it came from the principle of how
can
they help us, help ourselves as a group, and ultimately reach higher
volume
of product deployment (For mutual benefit). Understand that this is Best
of
Breed product, at the top of the pyramid, so sod course set realistic
expectations that their is no justification for the program to compete
against $99 CB3 boxes. But it now allows a WISP to make decisions based
on
whether the features and design of the product is the best product for
the
job, rather than having to make selection based on price. It allows a
WISP
to step up their operations a couple notches, and puts FCC certified /
carrier class gear within their reach.

Disclaimer: The fact that I am impressed by the Alvarion program, and
without a doubt will be participating in this program personally, does
not
take away the value that other manufacturer's products may also deliver.

But I now can make my decissions based on the merit of the individual
product lines, for the appropriate locations.  Alvarion is not the
appropriate product for all my needs, but I know where I do need it, and

I've been waiting for this day for that opportunity.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 8:14 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!


   


Ok, then put is on the paid member list, or tell me offlist.  :)  The
suspense is killing me.  :)

Brian

Rick Smith wrote:

 


yeah, tom, don't post a book, but give us details.

I'm sure Patrick will be chiming in on this one.

I love Alvarion gear.  Just can't afford it.  Mikrotik's just as good,
   


if
   


not
better at some things, but sometimes I'd just love a DS11 backhaul
everywhere...or bigger. :)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   


On
   


Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 4:27 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!

No details on the website...

Gino A. Villarini
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   


On
   



Re: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!

2006-11-13 Thread Peter R.

If you guys wanted to know S bad, you shoul dhave come to ISPCON   :)

The next one is in Orlando on May 23-25, 2007.

- Peter
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Re: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!

2006-11-13 Thread Jason Hensley
There was a public release that came out this morning.  I got it via what I 
assume is Alvarion's direct email list.  I'm not a current Alvarion user, 
but I am on their mailing list, so I'm not sure how else I would have gotten 
it.  It seems to be a public release / announcement.






- Original Message - 
From: Rick Harnish [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 1:27 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!



Paul,

Patrick said they will make an announcement.  We don't feel that it is
WISPA's place to make this public announcement until it is sent to us for
dispersal.  I'm sure there are legal ramifications that could come from
pre-announcement releases.  I strongly advise those who have been privy to
the initial release at ISPCON to refrain from sending it to the list.
Please be patient as Patrick works on California time and it is still
morning out there.

Respectfully,

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband  Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482
Founding Member of WISPA

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Paul Hendry
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 1:44 PM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!

Did it not get sent to the list? Anyone forward it offlist?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jason Hensley
Sent: 13 November 2006 14:53
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!

I got it here.  It looks like a great program, but Patrick, why only the 
5.8


gear included in this?  Doesn't help us out much where we have TONS of
trees, right?  Why no 2.4 or 900 gear included in the program too?



- Original Message - 
From: Paul Hendry [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 5:28 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!



It's Monday morning ;)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: 10 November 2006 22:29
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!

On Monday morning a mail will hit the WISPA list (sent via WISPA's ad
mechanism, not as a post) that will have a letter from me. Within that
will be a link to a jump page where you can get access to the detailed
pdf. This version of pdf will have more price details than the one
distributed at the WISPA meeting, so those 30 or so of you that received
a hard copy the other night may want to pull down the other one.

Everything will be ready and waiting.

Patrick Leary
AVP WISP Markets
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 1:36 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!

Sorry, I have not responded sooner guy, but I kept missing opportunities
to
connect to the Internet.
The reason I did not post details on the List, is that the pricing and
program is a deal designed and offered ONLY to WISPs, and I was not sure

what part of it was suppsoed to be confidential or Open to disclose.

The program is for the existing VL product line, the one you always
wanted
to buy, but thought you could never afford.
There are volume commits involved, but they are VERY minimal. The Plan
is
not just about pricing, it also includes additonal support for WISPs via

online content and such.  When you learn about it, you will see why I
was so
excited.  This program is something that never could have happened
without
someone like Patrick Leary behind it, who fully understands the needs of

WISPs, and went to bat for us.

What I liked about the program is that it came from the principle of how
can
they help us, help ourselves as a group, and ultimately reach higher
volume
of product deployment (For mutual benefit). Understand that this is Best
of
Breed product, at the top of the pyramid, so sod course set realistic
expectations that their is no justification for the program to compete
against $99 CB3 boxes. But it now allows a WISP to make decisions based
on
whether the features and design of the product is the best product for
the
job, rather than having to make selection based on price. It allows a
WISP
to step up their operations a couple notches, and puts FCC certified /
carrier class gear within their reach.

Disclaimer: The fact that I am impressed by the Alvarion program, and
without a doubt will be participating in this program personally, does
not
take away the value that other manufacturer's products may also deliver.

But I now can make my decissions based on the merit of the individual
product lines, for the appropriate locations.  Alvarion is not the
appropriate product for all my needs, but I know where I do need it, and

I've been waiting for this day for that opportunity.

Tom DeReggi

[WISPA] Service in Colorado?

2006-11-13 Thread John J. Thomas
Anybody want to provide wireless in Colorado?


http://www.unstrung.com/document.asp?doc_id=110287


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RE: [WISPA] Service in Colorado?

2006-11-13 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Too bad it  isn't Vail ...

Gino A. Villarini
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Behalf Of John J. Thomas
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 4:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Service in Colorado?

Anybody want to provide wireless in Colorado?


http://www.unstrung.com/document.asp?doc_id=110287


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Re: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!

2006-11-13 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
In a nut shell, Patrick (yes Patrick) has come up with a program 
specifically aimed at the WISPs.  We'll get volume discounts of over 70% 
(can't remember the exact number) with purchases of a whopping 25 units per 
QUARTER.  There are additional discounts that add to this depending upon how 
many WISPs overall purchase the gear.  Very cool stuff.


I saw the program and said Hell, *I* can do that!  I got a big grin out of 
Patrick with that one.  hehehehe


It'll take a while for us to install enough APs to drive that kind of volume 
for me.  I do more volume than that as it is, but I'll not be putting VL at 
all 20 tower sites over night.  Certainly something to think about for our 
bigger sites though.


I really like this program.  Finally I don't feel like my business is being 
used to subsidize the bigger (read telco) players.


My hope is that this program will set a precedent in the market place.  We 
may be small but we're growing, fast.  There were more 1000 and up WISPs at 
ISPCon than you could shake a stick at.  Very cool.


Now we have to wait and see if Alvarion can stick with this program for the 
next 3 years so that the market has time to install the base stations needed 
to really make this new model shine.


Thanks again Patrick.  Your loyalty to our industry segment is much 
appreciated!


It was great to see ya.  The beard really does have to go though!  Makes ya 
look lll...  cackle

Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
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- Original Message - 
From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 11:41 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!


Those who were not there, (WISPA meeting), some extremely exciting news 
was released by Alvarion.
The details of the Comnet program. Clearly the most exciting news from the 
show.

I can't even begin to communicate the impression that it made.
There could not have been a stronger message that they want WISPs as their 
customer.

A WISP will NEVER again use the excuse that they can not afford Alvarion.
Since this is a public list, I'll leave the details, for WISPs to discover 
when checking out the program.

But I will hint by saying, it enables Alvarion for residential.
Its a pretty hard sell, NOT to switch.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 5:14 PM
Subject: [WISPA] OT: The AlvarionCOMNET is coming 11/13...


And WISPA members at the meeting at ISPCON will get a detailed sneak
preview. I look forward to seeing many of you there.

Patrick Leary
AVP WISP Markets
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243
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Re: [WISPA] ISPCON Spring 2007

2006-11-13 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Yeah, it was pretty disappointing.  We ran out of food but had beer left 
over.  How sick is that?


hehehehehe

The meeting was great.  Heck, the show was great.  There are more new things 
happening right now than I ever remember seeing.  MissingKids.org has got 
some exciting things going on.  Trend Micro and Check Point are either doing 
or looking at offering a nice wholesale program for the average operator.  I 
found a couple of VOIP companies that are offering Vonage type services that 
the ISP can private label!


Turn key * systems were there.  And I saw a really cool off site backup 
program that not only sent your data off site, it also split it up over 
several servers.  Pretty cool stuff.


If only I could have hit the other half of the show floor!

Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
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- Original Message - 
From: Peter R. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 9:14 AM
Subject: [WISPA] ISPCON Spring 2007


You might want to float the idea of having WISPA's next meeting at ISPCON 
in Orlando in May.

Planning ahead could be helpful.
We had 30+ people in the room this time.
Be good to have 50 next time.

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We Help ISPs Connect  Communicate
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RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!

2006-11-13 Thread Brad Larson
I just got Patrick out of the Alvarion AIR Summit meeting that is going
on at Corporate. Many of our VAR partners are in Mountain View for a few
days getting briefed on Roadmaps, this new wisp program, and other
things. His email will go out in the next couple hours. Brad

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 5:29 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!

On Monday morning a mail will hit the WISPA list (sent via WISPA's ad
mechanism, not as a post) that will have a letter from me. Within that
will be a link to a jump page where you can get access to the detailed
pdf. This version of pdf will have more price details than the one
distributed at the WISPA meeting, so those 30 or so of you that received
a hard copy the other night may want to pull down the other one.

Everything will be ready and waiting. 

Patrick Leary
AVP WISP Markets
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 1:36 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!

Sorry, I have not responded sooner guy, but I kept missing opportunities
to 
connect to the Internet.
The reason I did not post details on the List, is that the pricing and 
program is a deal designed and offered ONLY to WISPs, and I was not sure

what part of it was suppsoed to be confidential or Open to disclose.

The program is for the existing VL product line, the one you always
wanted 
to buy, but thought you could never afford.
There are volume commits involved, but they are VERY minimal. The Plan
is 
not just about pricing, it also includes additonal support for WISPs via

online content and such.  When you learn about it, you will see why I
was so 
excited.  This program is something that never could have happened
without 
someone like Patrick Leary behind it, who fully understands the needs of

WISPs, and went to bat for us.

What I liked about the program is that it came from the principle of how
can 
they help us, help ourselves as a group, and ultimately reach higher
volume 
of product deployment (For mutual benefit). Understand that this is Best
of 
Breed product, at the top of the pyramid, so sod course set realistic 
expectations that their is no justification for the program to compete 
against $99 CB3 boxes. But it now allows a WISP to make decisions based
on 
whether the features and design of the product is the best product for
the 
job, rather than having to make selection based on price. It allows a
WISP 
to step up their operations a couple notches, and puts FCC certified / 
carrier class gear within their reach.

Disclaimer: The fact that I am impressed by the Alvarion program, and 
without a doubt will be participating in this program personally, does
not 
take away the value that other manufacturer's products may also deliver.

But I now can make my decissions based on the merit of the individual 
product lines, for the appropriate locations.  Alvarion is not the 
appropriate product for all my needs, but I know where I do need it, and

I've been waiting for this day for that opportunity.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 8:14 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!


 Ok, then put is on the paid member list, or tell me offlist.  :)  The 
 suspense is killing me.  :)

 Brian

 Rick Smith wrote:

yeah, tom, don't post a book, but give us details.

I'm sure Patrick will be chiming in on this one.

I love Alvarion gear.  Just can't afford it.  Mikrotik's just as good,
if
not
better at some things, but sometimes I'd just love a DS11 backhaul
everywhere...or bigger. :)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 4:27 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!

No details on the website...

Gino A. Villarini
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 3:41 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!

Those who were not there, (WISPA meeting), some extremely exciting
news 
was
released by Alvarion.
The details of the Comnet program. Clearly the most exciting news from
the
show.
I can't even begin to communicate the impression that it made.
There could not have been a stronger message that they want WISPs as
their
customer.
A WISP will NEVER again use the excuse that they can not afford
Alvarion.
Since this is a public list, I'll leave 

Re: [WISPA] on call staff

2006-11-13 Thread Tom DeReggi

Travis brings up a good point. the legality of it.

It difficult to implement a policiy, that is not 100% legal. If not 
documented, how can one be held accountable for following it. If its 
documented then you just gave your employee the abilty to win a law suit 
agaisnt you, as you've admitted the policy and practice of it. So to 
effectively launch an on-call policy, one must first consider the legal 
ramifications and account for them.   Take note that it is not necessarilly 
a requirement to pay full minimum wage for on-call duty.  Just like the 
airlines that pay a reduced wage when they are on-call.  However, 
conflicting law infers that if an employee is on-call, they must be paid for 
being on-call even if they are not performing work and jsut on standby.  The 
exact interpretation of these law really depends on what duties they have 
when they are on-call.  Do they just work when an insodent comes in? Are 
they required to comprmise their life in any way while in on-call status? 
And how will this apply? Again questions best answered by legal council 
knowledgable with the laws of your state, as state employment law usually 
has further restrictions.


We found that the person that took/qualified the off-hour service request 
should not necessarilly be the same person that actually went onsite to do 
the repair work.  Expecially if they don't get paid to do it, or more so if 
they do get paid overtime. If you pay overtime, they go onsite when they may 
not normally have to, to rake up some extra top dollar pay. If you don't 
pay, then they are likely to respond slower to outages, such as wait until 
morning to investigate instead of when it actually happens at night.  And 
what do you do when, an on-call tech responds 10 hours late, because they 
went away with their family anyway? How would you know, since you left it up 
to someone else to monitor when outages occured. By the time you find out 
that the tech responded to slow (the next day), its to late and nothing you 
can do able it to correct it sooner.  And can you complain when they were 
expected to do it for free?


What I do is I take the off-hours monitoring duty personally, so I can 
qualify when a site visit is required or not on the weekend. Then I call the 
tech on-call and make them go out, if needed.  I often do the off-hour 
repair personally, jsut because I want to save on over-time pay, and want 
the techs to get some rest and fun, because I work them hard during the 
week, and they need the rest.  I recently offloaded the night monitoring to 
one of our techs that I trust, in trade that he would not have to do the 
truck rolls on the week end. But I always have a different tech responsible 
for checking for outages in the mornings than the tech on night on-call duty 
so I have appropriate checks and balances.


I have not found a perfect system yet, jsut because we do not have enough 
staff to share the duty adequately and still ahve checks and balances, where 
there is a second person on-call in case the first person missed it.   What 
I plan to do is to start scheduling overlapping schedules so more of the day 
is handled by paid staff, and less time to be covered by on-call duty.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] on call staff



Hi,

That's not legal (at least not in Idaho). Someone on salary still can only 
work 40 hours per week unless they are a manager, meaning they have 3 
people under them, or they are a professional position (lawyer, 
doctor, etc.).


One of my friends owns a drafting company. Had everyone on Salary for 2 
years and was working them 50+ hours per week. They fired a guy and so he 
turned them into the Dept Labor. After the audit, they had to pay back 
overtime to everyone (costing them almost $40,000 for the 2 year period).


We have guys on call. If they have to go after hours, we give them time 
off during the payperiod so they aren't over 40 hours.


Travis
Microserv

David E. Smith wrote:

chris cooper wrote:
How do the rest of you compensate tech staff for on call duties?  We 
have an on call tech that monitors network remotely throughout weekend 
and is responsible for rolling to tower/major customer in case of 
outage.


Put 'em on salary, that way you can work them as much as you want without 
guilt. ;)


I'm not a tower climber, but I'm the one on-call pretty much all the 
time. In the event of a big problem, I'll usually triage it (drive to the 
tower, see if it's just a power outage or something else I can't easily 
fix), and if it's something for which we need the tower guy, I call him 
(and he gets normal overtime pay).


David Smith
MVN.net

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[WISPA] Portable tower/generator

2006-11-13 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181

Anyone near Fort Bragg?  They have two of these.
http://cgi.govliquidation.com/auction/view?auctionId=1042375convertTo=USD

laters,
Marlon
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RE: [WISPA] on call staff

2006-11-13 Thread Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless
How does this relate to a person that is salaried and expected to be
available all the time?  

Dennis Burgess, MCP, CCNA, A+, N+, Mikrotik Certified
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.2kwireless.com
 
2K Wireless provides high-speed internet access, along with network
consulting for WISPs, and business's with a focus on TCP/IP networking,
security, and Mikrotik routers.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 12:15 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] on call staff

Travis brings up a good point. the legality of it.

It difficult to implement a policiy, that is not 100% legal. If not 
documented, how can one be held accountable for following it. If its 
documented then you just gave your employee the abilty to win a law suit 
agaisnt you, as you've admitted the policy and practice of it. So to 
effectively launch an on-call policy, one must first consider the legal 
ramifications and account for them.   Take note that it is not necessarilly 
a requirement to pay full minimum wage for on-call duty.  Just like the 
airlines that pay a reduced wage when they are on-call.  However, 
conflicting law infers that if an employee is on-call, they must be paid for

being on-call even if they are not performing work and jsut on standby.  The

exact interpretation of these law really depends on what duties they have 
when they are on-call.  Do they just work when an insodent comes in? Are 
they required to comprmise their life in any way while in on-call status? 
And how will this apply? Again questions best answered by legal council 
knowledgable with the laws of your state, as state employment law usually 
has further restrictions.

We found that the person that took/qualified the off-hour service request 
should not necessarilly be the same person that actually went onsite to do 
the repair work.  Expecially if they don't get paid to do it, or more so if 
they do get paid overtime. If you pay overtime, they go onsite when they may

not normally have to, to rake up some extra top dollar pay. If you don't 
pay, then they are likely to respond slower to outages, such as wait until 
morning to investigate instead of when it actually happens at night.  And 
what do you do when, an on-call tech responds 10 hours late, because they 
went away with their family anyway? How would you know, since you left it up

to someone else to monitor when outages occured. By the time you find out 
that the tech responded to slow (the next day), its to late and nothing you 
can do able it to correct it sooner.  And can you complain when they were 
expected to do it for free?

What I do is I take the off-hours monitoring duty personally, so I can 
qualify when a site visit is required or not on the weekend. Then I call the

tech on-call and make them go out, if needed.  I often do the off-hour 
repair personally, jsut because I want to save on over-time pay, and want 
the techs to get some rest and fun, because I work them hard during the 
week, and they need the rest.  I recently offloaded the night monitoring to 
one of our techs that I trust, in trade that he would not have to do the 
truck rolls on the week end. But I always have a different tech responsible 
for checking for outages in the mornings than the tech on night on-call duty

so I have appropriate checks and balances.

I have not found a perfect system yet, jsut because we do not have enough 
staff to share the duty adequately and still ahve checks and balances, where

there is a second person on-call in case the first person missed it.   What 
I plan to do is to start scheduling overlapping schedules so more of the day

is handled by paid staff, and less time to be covered by on-call duty.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] on call staff


 Hi,

 That's not legal (at least not in Idaho). Someone on salary still can only

 work 40 hours per week unless they are a manager, meaning they have 3 
 people under them, or they are a professional position (lawyer, 
 doctor, etc.).

 One of my friends owns a drafting company. Had everyone on Salary for 2 
 years and was working them 50+ hours per week. They fired a guy and so he 
 turned them into the Dept Labor. After the audit, they had to pay back 
 overtime to everyone (costing them almost $40,000 for the 2 year period).

 We have guys on call. If they have to go after hours, we give them time 
 off during the payperiod so they aren't over 40 hours.

 Travis
 Microserv

 David E. Smith wrote:
 chris cooper wrote:
 How do the rest of you compensate tech staff for on call duties?  We 
 have an on call tech that monitors network remotely throughout weekend 
 and is responsible for rolling to tower/major customer in case of 
 

[WISPA] Solar power

2006-11-13 Thread Jason Hensley
Anyone who's put in solar at a POP care to hit me offlist?  I need to light one 
up and possibly may have to use solar.  

Thanks!

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RE: [WISPA] Solar power

2006-11-13 Thread Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless
Yep. We just did.  Just a single 532 with dual SR2 cards.

Dennis Burgess, MCP, CCNA, A+, N+, Mikrotik Certified
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-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Jason Hensley
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 4:58 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] Solar power

Anyone who's put in solar at a POP care to hit me offlist?  I need to light
one up and possibly may have to use solar.  

Thanks!

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Re: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!

2006-11-13 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
I really hope this program does well so Alvarian thinks about extending 
it to other products like 900mhz.  Maybe then we can put a dent in the 
broadband all of rural America wants...


Brian

Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:

In a nut shell, Patrick (yes Patrick) has come up with a program 
specifically aimed at the WISPs.  We'll get volume discounts of over 
70% (can't remember the exact number) with purchases of a whopping 25 
units per QUARTER.  There are additional discounts that add to this 
depending upon how many WISPs overall purchase the gear.  Very cool 
stuff.


I saw the program and said Hell, *I* can do that!  I got a big grin 
out of Patrick with that one.  hehehehe


It'll take a while for us to install enough APs to drive that kind of 
volume for me.  I do more volume than that as it is, but I'll not be 
putting VL at all 20 tower sites over night.  Certainly something to 
think about for our bigger sites though.


I really like this program.  Finally I don't feel like my business is 
being used to subsidize the bigger (read telco) players.


My hope is that this program will set a precedent in the market 
place.  We may be small but we're growing, fast.  There were more 1000 
and up WISPs at ISPCon than you could shake a stick at.  Very cool.


Now we have to wait and see if Alvarion can stick with this program 
for the next 3 years so that the market has time to install the base 
stations needed to really make this new model shine.


Thanks again Patrick.  Your loyalty to our industry segment is much 
appreciated!


It was great to see ya.  The beard really does have to go though!  
Makes ya look lll...  cackle

Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
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www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



- Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi 
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Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 11:41 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!


Those who were not there, (WISPA meeting), some extremely exciting 
news was released by Alvarion.
The details of the Comnet program. Clearly the most exciting news 
from the show.

I can't even begin to communicate the impression that it made.
There could not have been a stronger message that they want WISPs as 
their customer.
A WISP will NEVER again use the excuse that they can not afford 
Alvarion.
Since this is a public list, I'll leave the details, for WISPs to 
discover when checking out the program.

But I will hint by saying, it enables Alvarion for residential.
Its a pretty hard sell, NOT to switch.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - From: Patrick Leary 
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To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 5:14 PM
Subject: [WISPA] OT: The AlvarionCOMNET is coming 11/13...


And WISPA members at the meeting at ISPCON will get a detailed sneak
preview. I look forward to seeing many of you there.

Patrick Leary
AVP WISP Markets
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243
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Re: [WISPA] on call staff

2006-11-13 Thread Tom DeReggi
It doesn't. The only one I'm aware of that meets that requirement, (24x7 
uncompensated availabilty) is the owner of a company.  :-)

So have to be mor erealistic for everyone else, and improvise.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 5:27 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] on call staff



How does this relate to a person that is salaried and expected to be
available all the time?

Dennis Burgess, MCP, CCNA, A+, N+, Mikrotik Certified
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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2K Wireless provides high-speed internet access, along with network
consulting for WISPs, and business's with a focus on TCP/IP networking,
security, and Mikrotik routers.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 12:15 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] on call staff

Travis brings up a good point. the legality of it.

It difficult to implement a policiy, that is not 100% legal. If not
documented, how can one be held accountable for following it. If its
documented then you just gave your employee the abilty to win a law suit
agaisnt you, as you've admitted the policy and practice of it. So to
effectively launch an on-call policy, one must first consider the legal
ramifications and account for them.   Take note that it is not 
necessarilly

a requirement to pay full minimum wage for on-call duty.  Just like the
airlines that pay a reduced wage when they are on-call.  However,
conflicting law infers that if an employee is on-call, they must be paid 
for


being on-call even if they are not performing work and jsut on standby. 
The


exact interpretation of these law really depends on what duties they have
when they are on-call.  Do they just work when an insodent comes in? Are
they required to comprmise their life in any way while in on-call status?
And how will this apply? Again questions best answered by legal council
knowledgable with the laws of your state, as state employment law usually
has further restrictions.

We found that the person that took/qualified the off-hour service request
should not necessarilly be the same person that actually went onsite to do
the repair work.  Expecially if they don't get paid to do it, or more so 
if
they do get paid overtime. If you pay overtime, they go onsite when they 
may


not normally have to, to rake up some extra top dollar pay. If you don't
pay, then they are likely to respond slower to outages, such as wait until
morning to investigate instead of when it actually happens at night.  And
what do you do when, an on-call tech responds 10 hours late, because they
went away with their family anyway? How would you know, since you left it 
up


to someone else to monitor when outages occured. By the time you find out
that the tech responded to slow (the next day), its to late and nothing 
you

can do able it to correct it sooner.  And can you complain when they were
expected to do it for free?

What I do is I take the off-hours monitoring duty personally, so I can
qualify when a site visit is required or not on the weekend. Then I call 
the


tech on-call and make them go out, if needed.  I often do the off-hour
repair personally, jsut because I want to save on over-time pay, and want
the techs to get some rest and fun, because I work them hard during the
week, and they need the rest.  I recently offloaded the night monitoring 
to

one of our techs that I trust, in trade that he would not have to do the
truck rolls on the week end. But I always have a different tech 
responsible
for checking for outages in the mornings than the tech on night on-call 
duty


so I have appropriate checks and balances.

I have not found a perfect system yet, jsut because we do not have enough
staff to share the duty adequately and still ahve checks and balances, 
where


there is a second person on-call in case the first person missed it. 
What
I plan to do is to start scheduling overlapping schedules so more of the 
day


is handled by paid staff, and less time to be covered by on-call duty.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] on call staff



Hi,

That's not legal (at least not in Idaho). Someone on salary still can 
only



work 40 hours per week unless they are a manager, meaning they have 3
people under them, or they are a professional position (lawyer,
doctor, etc.).

One of my friends owns a drafting company. Had everyone on Salary for 2
years and was working them 50+ hours per week. They fired a guy and so he
turned them into the Dept Labor. After the audit, they had to pay back
overtime to everyone (costing 

Re: [WISPA] Service in Colorado?

2006-11-13 Thread Vince Jordan
Thanks for the lead John. We are a WiSP in Colorado and none of these  
towns are far from us. I think I'll track it down and see where it goes.


Vince

President/CEO
RidgeviewTel LLC.
A Rural Broadband Communications Company

http://www.ridgeviewtel.com
http://www.dboss-online.com

On Nov 13, 2006, at 12:59 PM, John J. Thomas wrote:


Anybody want to provide wireless in Colorado?


http://www.unstrung.com/document.asp?doc_id=110287


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[WISPA] Anyone using Exalt radios????

2006-11-13 Thread Bob Moldashel

Just looking for experiences

Personally I think they rock but just looking to see if anyone else has 
any pros/cons


www.exaltcom.com

100 Mb FD 2.4 Ghz. radio.   H.   I bet Marlon would love to have 
one of these for a neighbor!  :-)


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[WISPA] New WISPA Member

2006-11-13 Thread John Scrivner
WISPA has a new paid Principle WISP Member, welcome Marshall Craw of 
Rabbit Meadows Technology. WISPA requires funding in order to operate 
and to lobby for our industry. We appreciate those of you who recognize 
this and help us with your time and money. Here is an introduction for 
our newest WISPA member:


Marshall Craw started Rabbit Meadows Technology in 2002 for IT
consulting.The wireless infrastructure connected to Fiber was
deployed in early 2003.  Serving the Lake Chelan Valley in North
Central Washington, we compete in a market that has fiber, DSL, and
cable Internet.

Thank you again! If any of the rest of you want to help support the 
efforts of your industry then please go to http://signup.wispa.org and 
fill out the application. It takes about 2 minutes and won't hurt a bit!

All the best,
Scriv

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