[WISPA] IPAQ Problem
We have an IPAQ 6515 with an Spectec SDIO 821 (802.11B/G). It cannot get an DHCP address and if we set an address we cannot access the internet thru it even though it is reported connected. Any thoughts please. -- You have a good day now,en mag jou more's ook so wees. Carl A Jeptha http://www.jeptha.com 905-349-2027 skype cajeptha -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] testing - please ignore
testing please ignore Carl A Jeptha -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Canopy 900 Mhz connectorized stuff
Got 2 AP's and 3 SM's, all 900 connectorized, all advantage hardware. Need to get rid of them, and recoup $$$, to be honest. They were installed, but only for a few weeks. We pulled the POP due to lack of funding for the area. Looking for $1200 per AP, and $250 per SM. Contact me offlist. R -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] TEST (please ignore)
I just twiddled a few knobs on the WISPA mail server. Specifically, I turned it up to eleven. :) (Okay, so it was just routine OS updates, but the above version was funnier. I'm just making sure nothing's broken.) David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] salary
Ditto, and we make enough profit to roll the profit back into our business in network upgrades, etc. If I stopped my upgrades and just collected money, I could lay someone off and make a very handsome roi. George John Scrivner wrote: Yes. We earn salary and profits. It is not as much as I would like but our company is profitable and has been for 9 years. Scriv Brian Rohrbacher wrote: Is this all such a big deal? You guys actually have profits!? Brian John Scrivner wrote: I do not think any WISPs here really know the answer to this. What is needed is an answer from an accountant. If anyone on here is a CPA and can share what the rules are I would be glad to see them. I do not believe that simply drawing profits from a S corp WISP as opposed to taking a salary is tax evasion. In a S corp you pay taxes for profits same as you do for payroll. Where you might have a problem is with unemployment insurance, social security, workmans comp, etc. Those are based on payroll. Profits are not in the calculation. Essentially you are dodging those when you do not take a salary. Scriv Charles Wu wrote: snip Zero. When the CEO is also the primary investor, and the company is an S-corp or LLC, why pay payroll tax, when you can just take a repayment of loan? The salary of the CEO can be meaningless unless also disclosed wether they have an equity position or not, and of what caliber. /snip B/c when you get audited by the IRS (which for any small business, is just a matter of time), you will FINED for tax evasion... -Charles --- WiNOG Wireless Roadshows Coming to a City Near You http://www.winog.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 1:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] salary Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 8:55 PM Subject: [WISPA] salary Hi, Just taking a quick survey... answer if you can, but be honest... ;) What is the salary of the CEO of your ISP? Even if you can share the percentage of that salary compared to annual gross revenue... Travis Microserv -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] salary
The question I always ask myself is when to stop upgrading and expanding.. Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 12:08 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] salary Ditto, and we make enough profit to roll the profit back into our business in network upgrades, etc. If I stopped my upgrades and just collected money, I could lay someone off and make a very handsome roi. George John Scrivner wrote: Yes. We earn salary and profits. It is not as much as I would like but our company is profitable and has been for 9 years. Scriv Brian Rohrbacher wrote: Is this all such a big deal? You guys actually have profits!? Brian John Scrivner wrote: I do not think any WISPs here really know the answer to this. What is needed is an answer from an accountant. If anyone on here is a CPA and can share what the rules are I would be glad to see them. I do not believe that simply drawing profits from a S corp WISP as opposed to taking a salary is tax evasion. In a S corp you pay taxes for profits same as you do for payroll. Where you might have a problem is with unemployment insurance, social security, workmans comp, etc. Those are based on payroll. Profits are not in the calculation. Essentially you are dodging those when you do not take a salary. Scriv Charles Wu wrote: snip Zero. When the CEO is also the primary investor, and the company is an S-corp or LLC, why pay payroll tax, when you can just take a repayment of loan? The salary of the CEO can be meaningless unless also disclosed wether they have an equity position or not, and of what caliber. /snip B/c when you get audited by the IRS (which for any small business, is just a matter of time), you will FINED for tax evasion... -Charles --- WiNOG Wireless Roadshows Coming to a City Near You http://www.winog.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 1:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] salary Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 8:55 PM Subject: [WISPA] salary Hi, Just taking a quick survey... answer if you can, but be honest... ;) What is the salary of the CEO of your ISP? Even if you can share the percentage of that salary compared to annual gross revenue... Travis Microserv -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DAY FROM HELL!!!
We had 60mph sustained winds here. In town. We had one cpe radio blow down. Took the TV antenna and half the chimney with it. They now have a nice tripod bolted to the roof :-). Got another one that I have to go check out right now, not sure what's wrong with it. We also had a fiber customer go down. So out of 325 wireless subs we lost 1 maybe 2. Out of 50 fiber subs, we lost one. Looks like wireless is more reliable that fiber! lol Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Mark Koskenmaki [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 8:19 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] DAY FROM HELL!!! The storm here on Thursday night tore one of my sites down. ONE 2 foot dish and one sector, were not able to be supported by the galvanized pipe just 7 feet. The wind bent it over at 20 degrees... and then the guy wire snapped in the upwind direction, causing the whole thing to snap off... The guys were below the sector, which was directly below the dish, and it bent 2 pipe (I think it was 2, maybe 1.5). Either way, it bent over that pipe like nothing. The site had been through many 70+ mph storms without even being tweaked. For comparison purposes, I set up a 1 pipe and jumped on the middle, supported at the ends and could not bend it like that... (and I'm 275 lbs ) The guy wire was tension wire sold for holding up orchard trees! The pulling tension capability was way beyond 1000lbs. The site's still down, as yesterday, the wind was still screaming along at 40 mph, and we would not even attempt to raise the masting. It's under 20 feet above the barn roof, but we were afraid to get on the barn ourselves, much less attempt to raise 18 feet of pipe, antennas, and guy wires into place up on top of it. Hopefully by Sunday, the wind has died and it has not snowed again :(. When we left at 4:30 last night, the wind was still at 30-40 mph and it was well below freezing. brr... +++ neofast.net - fast internet for North East Oregon and South East Washington email me at mark at neofast dot net 541-969-8200 Direct commercial inquiries to purchasing at neofast dot net - Original Message - From: Mark Nash - Lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 3:02 PM Subject: [WISPA] DAY FROM HELL!!! Wind storms came through last night. Power out at 6 sites this morning, various power companies. Started at 6 this morning...Put in 2 generators, purchased 8 marine batteries and patched them into my APC UPS units. 2 sites now still running on batteries, 2 on generators. Will be a late night I think... George, I would imagine you guys had it worse out there on the coast... Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] salary
Gino A. Villarini wrote: The question I always ask myself is when to stop upgrading and expanding.. Last year at this time, I took from November till March 1st off. No work at the isp, just worked on my home, my kid's house, had fun with stocks and just enjoyed rest and relaxation :) Was great to be able to take 4 months off and have the rest of the people at the shop take care of business. So we didn't really spend any money on upgrades or retooling. We felt the effects of that on our cash flow. There also was negative stuff because of it. Like overloaded ap's that disgruntled some subs. George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] One Ring's Combination of Wired and Wireless Connections Means 100 Percent Up Time for Coal Marketing
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RE: [WISPA] salary
That's an easy one; never. Continue upgrading and if necessary push older gear further out on the network. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 12:51 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] salary The question I always ask myself is when to stop upgrading and expanding.. Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 12:08 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] salary Ditto, and we make enough profit to roll the profit back into our business in network upgrades, etc. If I stopped my upgrades and just collected money, I could lay someone off and make a very handsome roi. George John Scrivner wrote: Yes. We earn salary and profits. It is not as much as I would like but our company is profitable and has been for 9 years. Scriv Brian Rohrbacher wrote: Is this all such a big deal? You guys actually have profits!? Brian John Scrivner wrote: I do not think any WISPs here really know the answer to this. What is needed is an answer from an accountant. If anyone on here is a CPA and can share what the rules are I would be glad to see them. I do not believe that simply drawing profits from a S corp WISP as opposed to taking a salary is tax evasion. In a S corp you pay taxes for profits same as you do for payroll. Where you might have a problem is with unemployment insurance, social security, workmans comp, etc. Those are based on payroll. Profits are not in the calculation. Essentially you are dodging those when you do not take a salary. Scriv Charles Wu wrote: snip Zero. When the CEO is also the primary investor, and the company is an S-corp or LLC, why pay payroll tax, when you can just take a repayment of loan? The salary of the CEO can be meaningless unless also disclosed wether they have an equity position or not, and of what caliber. /snip B/c when you get audited by the IRS (which for any small business, is just a matter of time), you will FINED for tax evasion... -Charles --- WiNOG Wireless Roadshows Coming to a City Near You http://www.winog.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 1:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] salary Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 8:55 PM Subject: [WISPA] salary Hi, Just taking a quick survey... answer if you can, but be honest... ;) What is the salary of the CEO of your ISP? Even if you can share the percentage of that salary compared to annual gross revenue... Travis Microserv -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] salary
Gino, That's a question that Larsen and I have been hunting an answer to for a couple years. We both said we were going to sit back and collect some of our initial investments back over a year ago. I know Larsen is still hanging gear in every town along the 3 States he borders (get 'em son) and also created one of the longest production wireless backhaul links (60+ miles) of anybody anywhere that I am aware of. I too have built 7 new towers in the last few months and built out about a dozen new towns and gone to all fiber. My point is this - - - it's a vicious circle! When is enough - enough? We get a new tower up and swear this is the last, but from that tower there is another community that is yet without internet connectivity and just one more little hop will get them caught! It's a never ending story - - - looks like we need a wireless anonymous group to help us break the cycle!! If you find the cure - - send Larsen and myself a double dose. Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 12:51 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] salary The question I always ask myself is when to stop upgrading and expanding.. Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 12:08 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] salary Ditto, and we make enough profit to roll the profit back into our business in network upgrades, etc. If I stopped my upgrades and just collected money, I could lay someone off and make a very handsome roi. George John Scrivner wrote: Yes. We earn salary and profits. It is not as much as I would like but our company is profitable and has been for 9 years. Scriv Brian Rohrbacher wrote: Is this all such a big deal? You guys actually have profits!? Brian John Scrivner wrote: I do not think any WISPs here really know the answer to this. What is needed is an answer from an accountant. If anyone on here is a CPA and can share what the rules are I would be glad to see them. I do not believe that simply drawing profits from a S corp WISP as opposed to taking a salary is tax evasion. In a S corp you pay taxes for profits same as you do for payroll. Where you might have a problem is with unemployment insurance, social security, workmans comp, etc. Those are based on payroll. Profits are not in the calculation. Essentially you are dodging those when you do not take a salary. Scriv Charles Wu wrote: snip Zero. When the CEO is also the primary investor, and the company is an S-corp or LLC, why pay payroll tax, when you can just take a repayment of loan? The salary of the CEO can be meaningless unless also disclosed wether they have an equity position or not, and of what caliber. /snip B/c when you get audited by the IRS (which for any small business, is just a matter of time), you will FINED for tax evasion... -Charles --- WiNOG Wireless Roadshows Coming to a City Near You http://www.winog.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 1:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] salary Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 8:55 PM Subject: [WISPA] salary Hi, Just taking a quick survey... answer if you can, but be honest... ;) What is the salary of the CEO of your ISP? Even if you can share the percentage of that salary compared to annual gross revenue... Travis Microserv -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] salary
The never ending story ... Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 4:29 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] salary Gino, That's a question that Larsen and I have been hunting an answer to for a couple years. We both said we were going to sit back and collect some of our initial investments back over a year ago. I know Larsen is still hanging gear in every town along the 3 States he borders (get 'em son) and also created one of the longest production wireless backhaul links (60+ miles) of anybody anywhere that I am aware of. I too have built 7 new towers in the last few months and built out about a dozen new towns and gone to all fiber. My point is this - - - it's a vicious circle! When is enough - enough? We get a new tower up and swear this is the last, but from that tower there is another community that is yet without internet connectivity and just one more little hop will get them caught! It's a never ending story - - - looks like we need a wireless anonymous group to help us break the cycle!! If you find the cure - - send Larsen and myself a double dose. Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 12:51 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] salary The question I always ask myself is when to stop upgrading and expanding.. Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 12:08 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] salary Ditto, and we make enough profit to roll the profit back into our business in network upgrades, etc. If I stopped my upgrades and just collected money, I could lay someone off and make a very handsome roi. George John Scrivner wrote: Yes. We earn salary and profits. It is not as much as I would like but our company is profitable and has been for 9 years. Scriv Brian Rohrbacher wrote: Is this all such a big deal? You guys actually have profits!? Brian John Scrivner wrote: I do not think any WISPs here really know the answer to this. What is needed is an answer from an accountant. If anyone on here is a CPA and can share what the rules are I would be glad to see them. I do not believe that simply drawing profits from a S corp WISP as opposed to taking a salary is tax evasion. In a S corp you pay taxes for profits same as you do for payroll. Where you might have a problem is with unemployment insurance, social security, workmans comp, etc. Those are based on payroll. Profits are not in the calculation. Essentially you are dodging those when you do not take a salary. Scriv Charles Wu wrote: snip Zero. When the CEO is also the primary investor, and the company is an S-corp or LLC, why pay payroll tax, when you can just take a repayment of loan? The salary of the CEO can be meaningless unless also disclosed wether they have an equity position or not, and of what caliber. /snip B/c when you get audited by the IRS (which for any small business, is just a matter of time), you will FINED for tax evasion... -Charles --- WiNOG Wireless Roadshows Coming to a City Near You http://www.winog.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 1:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] salary Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 8:55 PM Subject: [WISPA] salary Hi, Just taking a quick survey... answer if you can, but be honest... ;) What is the salary of the CEO of your ISP? Even if you can share the percentage of that salary compared to annual gross revenue... Travis Microserv -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
[WISPA] One Ring's Combination of Wired and Wireless Connections Means 100 Percent Up Time for Coal Marketing
One Ring's Combination of Wired and Wireless Connections Means 100 Percent Up Time for Coal Marketing Alternative Access Carrier Frees Businesses From Multi-Carrier Dependence ATLANTA, GA -- (MARKET WIRE) -- December 18, 2006 -- One Ring Networks, provider of next generation end-to-end telecommunications services, announced today that Coal Marketing Services, Ltd. is deploying its combination of wireless and fiber network solutions for complete redundancy and diversity that guarantees 100 percent up time. Traditionally companies achieve redundancy by connecting to multiple providers. The problem with this is that most of these connections are entering the building through the same conduit. If that conduit is compromised, everything fails, explained Matt Liotta, Founder of One Ring Networks. One Ring has solved this problem by providing a fiber and wireless connection then managing fail-over to efficiently re-route traffic. We went with One Ring Networks for our data communications because we need a reliable single point of contact for a multi-line, redundant solution, said Carter Fly, IT Manager for Coal Marketing. The fiber and wireless solution One Ring manages simplifies my job and reduces network engineering consulting hours, reducing our costs significantly. One Ring Networks operates an extensive, high-speed fixed wireless network that offers both carrier and physical redundancy for fiber and multiple T connections. For companies that require 100 percent availability of online services, One Ring offers fixed wireless redundancy options that provide real-time fail-over from wire line circuits. About One Ring Networks One Ring Networks operates one of the largest hybrid fiber-fixed wireless networks in the United States and is one of the few carriers offering end-to-end telecommunications and networking services without relying on other companies' networks. Over its next generation network, One Ring offers high-speed data services, feature-rich IP phone services, IP telephony infrastructure, integration and management, and network monitoring and management. For more information, go to www.oneringnetworks.com. About Coal Marketing Ltd. Coal Marketing Company Ltd. (CMC) was established in January 2003 by shareholders Anglo American, BHP Billiton and Glencore. In May 2006 Xstrata acquired Glencore's 33 percent share and replaced then in the consortium. CMC is the exclusive marketer for coal produced in the vast Cerrejón complex, located on Colombia's Northern Coast. With offices based in Dublin and Atlanta, CMC is a market leader in coal export. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] German DIY Community Releases New Mesh Routing Daemon
German DIY Community Releases New Mesh Routing Daemon [Add to Bookmarks] Dec 18, 2006 By Indrajit Basu Story Art Elektra- B.A.T.M.A.N's inventor. The self-proclaimed largest do-it-yourself wireless community network, Freifunk in Germany, has developed a new algorithm that the developers claim would revolutionize adhoc networking or mobile mesh routing to make all current mesh routing protocols and algorithms obsolete. Called B.A.T.M.A.N-III 0.1-rc1, this new software is a much improved version of B.A.T.M.A.N, an ad-hoc mesh-networking algorithm that first appeared as a trial version in March this year in Berlin. We have improved the algorithm and implemented B.A.T.M.A.N-III in the Freifunk community, said Juergen Neumann, the founder of Freifunk, whose developers developed this software, and we are confident that the new algorithm works better than any other protocols we have seen so far. It is a revolutionary software added Neumann, which makes it possible to run ad-hoc routing protocol on almost any device no matter how little the CPU power is. This therefore, not only improves the efficiency of a self-organizing network, but it also dramatically reduces the cost of setting up a network by reducing the CPU and bandwidth costs. First developed by a German software professional, Elektra, B.A.T.M.A.N. is an abbreviation for Better Approach To Mobile Adhoc Networking, a routing protocol enhancing connections in mesh networks. An ad-hoc network is a local area network or other small network, especially one with wireless or temporary plug-in connections, in which some of the network devices are part of the network only for the duration of a communications session or, in the case of mobile or portable devices, while in some close proximity to the rest of the network. Mesh networking - a networking technique that allows peer network nodes to supply back haul services to other nodes in the same network - is a way to route data, voice and instructions between nodes. It allows for continuous connections and reconfiguration around broken or blocked paths by hopping from node to node until the destination is reached. Mesh networks are self-healing, which means that the network can still operate even when a node breaks down or a connection goes bad. This concept is applicable to wireless networks, wired networks, and software interaction. Mesh networks differ from other networks in that the component parts can all connected to each other via multiple hops, and they generally are not mobile. Thus, it effectively extends a network by sharing access to higher cost network infrastructure. B.A.T.M.A.N-III has the power to replace the Optimized Link State Routing (OLSR) protocol that is currently being used in many wireless mesh networks around the world, says Neumann. According to Neumann, OLSR developed by Andreas Tonnesen at UniK - University Graduate Center - and currently the most popularly used mesh networking protocol for wireless community projects around the world, suffers from a major flaw. It operates as a table driven, proactive protocol, i.e., exchanges topology information with other nodes of the network. Each node selects a set of its neighbor nodes as multipoint relays (MPR), and only those nodes selected as MPRs, are responsible for forwarding traffic intended into the entire network. OLSR therefore has to continuously calculate different gateways from time to time, and each time the gateway changes, the connection breaks down, says Neumann. This is why it only makes sense in a small, all-wireless LAN or as a temporary fallback mechanism when a normally available infrastructure mode gear (access points or routers) stop functioning. Whereas B.A.T.M.A.N-III uses the tunneling technology to connect to the gateways that ensures that the traffic does not slip while searching for nodes, say the developers. But this technology has other advantages as well. Since it connects to gateways via IP-tunnels, it enables gateway clients to select their gateways according to their speed and availability. Moreover, unlike OLSR (which considers different gateways from time to time), BATMAN-III remains with the selected gateway as long as it is available thereby ensuring far stable connections. Consequently services like VOIP (internet telephony) and chat sessions become far more pleasurable, says Neumann. According to him this new software, which builds routes much faster compared to OLSRD and responds to changes quicker as well all of which has a direct impact on reducing the cost of building a network, is ideal for community wireless networks, which are typically, operate on tight budgets. Freifunk claims that it has already implemented this software on part of its network very successfully and will eventually move over completely. Besides, Freifunk will also implement B.A.T.M.A.N-III in its firmware soon. The community provides it's
[WISPA] FTP over NAT with Tranzeo
Running Tranzeo boxes. 1-1 NAT for the CPE. Can't get FTP to work other than passive. This is a CPQ so it's NAT's (masquerade) at the CPQ for the local network as well. Not sure what I would need to do to get active FTP working. Router doing the NAT is a Mikrotik RB532. Any thoughts? I've got a client that has some software that cannot take advantage of passive FTP so I need to get this working. Am I going to have to assign a public IP to the CPQ to get this going? -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] TEST (please ignore)
Then you'll appreciate this: http://www.uwol.net/bday/videos/BigBottom-768.wmv That's me singing... twas a 40th birthday party for me and I invited all my musician friends to have a big jam session. Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 9:59 AM Subject: [WISPA] TEST (please ignore) I just twiddled a few knobs on the WISPA mail server. Specifically, I turned it up to eleven. :) (Okay, so it was just routine OS updates, but the above version was funnier. I'm just making sure nothing's broken.) David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] FCC places 700 MHz broadband item on agenda
All, In case you have not come across this yet. http://www.dailywireless.org/2006/12/18/fcc-moving-on-700mhz-public-safety-interop/ Regards, Dawn DiPietro -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] salary
I cured myself - sort of. :^) I stopped building out new tower sites in June 2006, other than a few little repeaters that were pretty basic network extensions with no tower work involved. A couple of months before that, I also stopped doing new leases for CPE equipment. In August, I had one employee leave and we decided not to replace him. Oh yeah, also bumped up my installation charges from $150 to $250 for new installs. End result - all new equipment is now bought out of cash flow. Number of customer installs went down, but net customers continues to increase each month.Cash flow position has never been better, and gets better every month. My original debt and lease payments start to come off the books in March of next year. At this point, I can drive for two hours in every direction from my house before I get to the ends of my network, and I'm tired of driving so I'm done expanding geographically. I will continue to deploy picocells and fill in areas within the footprint where we don't have capacity. I'm also planning to put in more 5ghz equipment and continue moving higher consumption customers over to that system. There is some work there, but it is a far cry from the long hours and crazy buildouts of the last three years for me. Unfortunately, instead of taking time off to savor things, I have a consulting client with 400 towers in rural areas around the US that they want to light up with wireless Internet. So I will be spending the next year putting my freed up time into that project. That should cure my desire to keep building out on my own system. Kevin Suitor told me something at WISPCON III that I will never forget. He said that this (meaning wireless broadband) was about a seven to ten year industry. By the tenth year, it will all be commoditized and all of the original innovators will have sold out or moved into the corporate world. In the meantime, it will be a really fun ride and lots of people will have amazing opportunities to make money and do neat things. My late father had a saying (common in these rural areas) Make hay while the sun is shining. The sun is shining on this industry right now, and I'm going to do everything I can to make the most of the opportunity. I feel that if I can play my cards right, I'll be retired by the time I'm 40. I'll probably be ready to start on something else by the time I'm 41, but my goal is that work will be a choice and not a necessity by then and I can spend a lot of quality time with Monique and Diego. Oh yeah, I'd also like to get together with Mac and Scriv and a bunch of my wireless buddies for beers and talking about the old days a couple times a year. Hopefully on a beach somewhere. A person can dream, right? Matt Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mac Dearman wrote: Gino, That's a question that Larsen and I have been hunting an answer to for a couple years. We both said we were going to sit back and collect some of our initial investments back over a year ago. I know Larsen is still hanging gear in every town along the 3 States he borders (get 'em son) and also created one of the longest production wireless backhaul links (60+ miles) of anybody anywhere that I am aware of. I too have built 7 new towers in the last few months and built out about a dozen new towns and gone to all fiber. My point is this - - - it's a vicious circle! When is enough - enough? We get a new tower up and swear this is the last, but from that tower there is another community that is yet without internet connectivity and just one more little hop will get them caught! It's a never ending story - - - looks like we need a wireless anonymous group to help us break the cycle!! If you find the cure - - send Larsen and myself a double dose. Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 12:51 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] salary The question I always ask myself is when to stop upgrading and expanding.. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] One Ring's Combination of Wired and Wireless Connections Means 100 Percent Up Time for Coal Marketing
Clearly, a realization of what wireless providers bring to the table. True diversity. And Matt's take on it, to manage the complicated parts to make it work, is insightful. And this is one of the reasons that Wireless providers will not likely get killed by fiber companies, as we compliment each other. redundancy and diversity that guarantees 100 percent up time. Except 100% uptime is FUD. As we all know, there are many things that can fail other than just the connection and paths, such as the routers and configurations that control which path needs to be taken. Secondly, Full redundancy includes Provider Redundancy. A provider is more than the circuit type. What happens if the provider's support can't respond and they are managing both circuits? Many large companies learned this problem in year 2000, when 25 of the 29 largest LECs went bankrupt. Anything One Ring is offering, can be offered by any WISP, that has the know how to manage fail-over to their partner fiber carrier, and enable FULL redundancy. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Dawn DiPietro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 4:06 PM Subject: [WISPA] One Ring's Combination of Wired and Wireless Connections Means 100 Percent Up Time for Coal Marketing One Ring's Combination of Wired and Wireless Connections Means 100 Percent Up Time for Coal Marketing Alternative Access Carrier Frees Businesses From Multi-Carrier Dependence ATLANTA, GA -- (MARKET WIRE) -- December 18, 2006 -- One Ring Networks, provider of next generation end-to-end telecommunications services, announced today that Coal Marketing Services, Ltd. is deploying its combination of wireless and fiber network solutions for complete redundancy and diversity that guarantees 100 percent up time. Traditionally companies achieve redundancy by connecting to multiple providers. The problem with this is that most of these connections are entering the building through the same conduit. If that conduit is compromised, everything fails, explained Matt Liotta, Founder of One Ring Networks. One Ring has solved this problem by providing a fiber and wireless connection then managing fail-over to efficiently re-route traffic. We went with One Ring Networks for our data communications because we need a reliable single point of contact for a multi-line, redundant solution, said Carter Fly, IT Manager for Coal Marketing. The fiber and wireless solution One Ring manages simplifies my job and reduces network engineering consulting hours, reducing our costs significantly. One Ring Networks operates an extensive, high-speed fixed wireless network that offers both carrier and physical redundancy for fiber and multiple T connections. For companies that require 100 percent availability of online services, One Ring offers fixed wireless redundancy options that provide real-time fail-over from wire line circuits. About One Ring Networks One Ring Networks operates one of the largest hybrid fiber-fixed wireless networks in the United States and is one of the few carriers offering end-to-end telecommunications and networking services without relying on other companies' networks. Over its next generation network, One Ring offers high-speed data services, feature-rich IP phone services, IP telephony infrastructure, integration and management, and network monitoring and management. For more information, go to www.oneringnetworks.com. About Coal Marketing Ltd. Coal Marketing Company Ltd. (CMC) was established in January 2003 by shareholders Anglo American, BHP Billiton and Glencore. In May 2006 Xstrata acquired Glencore's 33 percent share and replaced then in the consortium. CMC is the exclusive marketer for coal produced in the vast Cerrejón complex, located on Colombia's Northern Coast. With offices based in Dublin and Atlanta, CMC is a market leader in coal export. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] salary
Charles, B/c when you get audited by the IRS (which for any small business, is just a matter of time), you will FINED for tax evasion... There is no basis for your reply. Our company has outsourced our Tax Accounting to a well respected professional accounting firms since day one (1994), and there is nothing illegal or inappropriate in our TAX planning practices. 1. There is no obligation for any business owner to take a salary, if there is not income/profits to justify giving a salary. (If there was, many startups would never be able to start up, and the term sweat equity would not exist). 2. There is no restriction on how much money someone can loan or invest in a business. And anyone who gives a loan to someone, is legally allowed to define the terms in which they will get paid back for that loan. (if people could not get paid back for loans, they would not give them. As a matter of fact the biggest thing a lender looks at before giving a loan is what guarantees that they will get paid back.) The only thing I can think of is that you misinterpreted my comments for cases that do not match our company's profile and circumstance, and/or not insightful enough to realize that I am aware of the additional steps and planning that are needed to meet the IRS's requirements of accountabilty. The IRS does not like to see money randomly and inconsistently change hands between, corporations, stock holders, lendors, employees, owners, etc. There is a proceedure for giving and documenting a loan, and there is a proceedure for giving and documenting salaries, and a proceedure for transferring and documenting any money that changes hands. It can get even more complicated if there are multiple executives and stock holders that need answering to, who's annual tax records will document the TAX history and financial profile of the company. What some don't realize is that registering to be a corporate entity of some type, and or taking a title of some sort, is not enough on its own to legal make it so, from the IRS's perspective. The IRS wants to see that the company or entity conducts business appropriate for its entity type or title type. If a corporate acts like a sole proprietor, the IRS can reclassify the corporation as a Sole proprietor for tax purposes. (For example if you don't follow the mandatory requirements of being a corporation such as doing minutes and bpard meetings and such, and/or officers don't take salaries when salaries are appropriate to be taken). The same applies when lending money. If one day you call something a loan and the next day you call it equity, and the next day call it salary, it would infer that the business owner is just making it up as he goes along, and maybe the IRS will decide to have a different opinion of how the situation should be accounted for. But that is not what I advised or inferred in my original post. But my opinion stands... If a business owner is personally loaning money to his own company, in most cases, it would be wise for that business owner to document/negotiate upfront terms of the loan (to himself), setting a payback plan of that loan before taking a salary. It would just be plain stupid to pay income tax on your own money that you were already once taxed on before lending it to the company. One of the ways to make it legal is to define the terms of payback in the original loan Note that represents the transaction of the loan. What many business owners do not realize is that, not all corporate activity needs to be defined in the corporate documents. it is also legal to include specific terms in the NOTE of a loan. For example, an S-CORP only has one class of stock, but many small S-CORPs will immulate the equivelent of priority stock, by including special terms in the NOTE, to intice investors and/or reduce investor's risk, without actually giving up STOCK controlling ownership of the their company. The benefit of paying back loans first, when one is an S-CORP, is that losses can still go on your personal return. That means that once your company is making a profit, and/or the loan is paid in full, and it is appropriate that you take a salary (such as when you have a need to convert to C-Corp and need to avoid double taxation), you can still deduct the previous losses that transfered to your personal returns (as an S-CORP), and still take the deductions from your salary at that time. In my comments above, I am making the assumption that significant after tax personal money had been invested, and that no profit was being made yet. Many startup or companies that are very top heavy for build outs show losses in the early stages. As this is a public list, It is not appropriate to discuss my personal tax situation in more detail. But the important part of this post is that business owners should be having conversations with their accountants on what the best way is for them to
Re: [WISPA] salary
Thats were it gets tricky... Recouping value for the time you put into the company, at a later time. If you were valuing your company preparing for aquisition, or setting share value of your stock to plan for taking on investors or partners, you may want to get credit for your time that you didn't take salary yet for. If you are the ownly owner, its a mute point, you make your money back on the profit of the sale (the difference between invested amount and sale price). But what if selling for Stock or not selling and just taking on new partners. Do you just give yourself a higher percentage of the stock to account for it, or do you write up a loan to compensate for a reasonable repayment of unpaid back salaries? Or is there a way to take a corporate loss at a value equivellent to the unpaid salary? You got to be careful, because you don't want to have to pay back income tax on salary that you never received, because it was a salary that was documented as owed. These are all tax questions that need addressing, at the appropriate time in ones business evolution. My experience shows that once there are multiple investors (outside of family), they need to be addressed. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Rick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 1:34 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] salary of course, if you own an Scorp, you HAVE to have annual meetings with minutes and post annual reports to the state. At least in NJ. And, Tom's right. Repayment of loans is a nice way to not pay tax. NOW, you can only do that if you've actually loaned the company things. But if you're a working partner, you're loaning time to the company which needs to be repaid at a certain rate. (so long as you don't claim expenses like mileage and other reimbursements - then you HAVE to take a salary. can't have the best of both worlds) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter R. Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 9:34 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] salary Check with your CPA on that. The IRS likes to see salary and other activities that represent that your company really is a company and not a tax shelter so that you avoid the sole proprietor tax schedule. (It's called piercing the veil -- if you don't have minutes and annual shareholder meetings and run it like a business, you lose the corporate shield for tax purposes AND for liability as in civil litigation). - Peter Tom DeReggi wrote: Zero. When the CEO is also the primary investor, and the company is an S-corp or LLC, why pay payroll tax, when you can just take a repayment of loan? The salary of the CEO can be meaningless unless also disclosed wether they have an equity position or not, and of what caliber. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] salary
the IRS will treat the capital-gains as real income and will tax the CEO at the higher personal rate. Maybe. But you have to have capitol gains to tax. Not all companies have gains, even when assessing a fair value to the stock. The reason is many investment activities fund activity that does not necessarilly have value that can be realized until the company is sold. For example research and development. For example, locking down a 20 year contract on a prime tower needs to be looked at as an asset for a sale activity, but as a liabilty for tax purposes. The value can't be proven until someone pays for the company to establish the value. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Larry Yunker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 11:56 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] salary - Original Message - From: Peter R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 8:34 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] salary Check with your CPA on that. The IRS likes to see salary and other activities that represent that your company really is a company and not a tax shelter so that you avoid the sole proprietor tax schedule. (It's called piercing the veil -- if you don't have minutes and annual shareholder meetings and run it like a business, you lose the corporate shield for tax purposes AND for liability as in civil litigation). I think you are on the mark here... according to what I picked up through my Business Planning coursework, the IRS has fairly consistently applied a reasonableness test to the salary of a CEO who is also a majority shareholder. But reasonable is a fairly broad term. Zero would not be reasonable in any case, but $10,000 or more might meet the reasonableness standard for companies with limited revenues. On the other hand, if your company is turning $1MM in sales, you better be paying your full time CEO substantially more than $10,000 because the IRS will see right through that ploy. In addition, if you try to pay the CEO through an incentive program (dividends or stock options) in lieu of salary, the IRS will treat the capital-gains as real income and will tax the CEO at the higher personal rate. You have to provide a balance of salary and other non-salary incentives in order to get the maximum tax advantage. - Larry -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] salary
I guess thats proof that I'm not the only moron in business that works for free, to maximize their net worth. Now all I need to do is make my stock price worth 4 billion dollars like Googles :-) Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Frank Muto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 2:11 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] salary http://money.cnn.com/2006/03/31/technology/google/index.htm Google leaders stick with $1 salary According to the search engine's latest proxy filing, Eric Schmidt, Larry Page and Sergey Brin each turned down a raise. By Paul R. La Monica, CNNMoney.com senior writer March 31, 2006: 4:38 PM EST NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) - Google's co-founders and chief executive officer were offered a raise this year by the company's compensation committee, but the three turned it down and are sticking with their current annual salary of $1. The search engine company made the disclosure in its proxy statement, which was filed Friday with the Securities and Exchange Commission. CEO Eric Schmidt and co-founders Larry Page and Sergey Brin first requested that their salary be cut to $1 in the second quarter of 2004, just before the company's initial public offering. Prior to that, Schmidt was making $250,000 a year while Page and Brin each earned a salary of $150,000. In Friday's filing, Google (Research) said that due to our continued strong performance, the leadership by Eric, Sergey and Larry throughout the year, and below-market cash compensation levels, the Committee determined that an increase in cash compensation opportunities was merited, and we offered Eric, Sergey and Larry an increase in salary and bonus for 2006. The company added that Schmidt, Page and Brin turned the offer down because their primary compensation continues to come from returns on their ownership stakes in Google. As significant stockholders, their personal wealth is tied directly to sustained stock price appreciation and performance, which provides direct alignment with stockholder interests. According to the filing, Schmidt owns about 12.45 million shares of Google, which are worth about $4.86 billion based on the company's most recent stock price. Brin owns about 31.6 million Google shares and Page owns a little more than 32 million shares. So their stakes are each worth more than $12 billion based on current stock prices. Frank Muto President/CEO FSM Marketing Group, Inc - Original Message - From: Peter R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check with your CPA on that. The IRS likes to see salary and other activities that represent that your company really is a company and not a tax shelter so that you avoid the sole proprietor tax schedule. (It's called piercing the veil -- if you don't have minutes and annual shareholder meetings and run it like a business, you lose the corporate shield for tax purposes AND for liability as in civil litigation). - Original Message - From: Larry Yunker [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think you are on the mark here... according to what I picked up through my Business Planning coursework, the IRS has fairly consistently applied a reasonableness test to the salary of a CEO who is also a majority shareholder. But reasonable is a fairly broad term. Zero would not be reasonable in any case, but $10,000 or more might meet the reasonableness standard for companies with limited revenues. On the other hand, if your company is turning $1MM in sales, you better be paying your full time CEO substantially more than $10,000 because the IRS will see right through that ploy. In addition, if you try to pay the CEO through an incentive program (dividends or stock options) in lieu of salary, the IRS will treat the capital-gains as real income and will tax the CEO at the higher personal rate. You have to provide a balance of salary and other non-salary incentives in order to get the maximum tax advantage. - Larry -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] RE: [isp-wireless] ot, private chat
http://www.blabitonline.com is the site for my private-network secure i/m server and client. Not compatible with anything else, on purpose. Only closed-network. R -Original Message- From: Rick Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 9:09 PM To: isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com Subject: RE: [isp-wireless] ot, private chat Hey I wrote blab-it, still have it. Oops, just noticed the website's not working. lol. I've got several customers using it, it's just plain jane instant messaging, VERY secure - better than any government standards :) R -Original Message- From: Josh Cheney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 7:12 PM To: isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com Subject: Re: [isp-wireless] ot, private chat Would a Jabber server fill their needs? Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Hi All, A few years back, there was a program called Blab-it. It was a private chat system. I have a couple of corporate customers that are interested in a Yahoo or MSN Messenger type application but they want it isolated to their own network (including remote offices) and they want better security. Anyone know of such a beast? I could probably handle something that rides on my server, but a system that would ride on the customer's server is what they are mostly after. thanks! Marlon -- Josh Cheney [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.joshcheney.com ___ The ISP-WIRELESS Discussion List ___ To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: http://isp-lists.isp-planet.com/isp-wireless/archives/ To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. Copyright 2005 Jupitermedia Corporation All Rights Reserved. ___ The ISP-WIRELESS Discussion List ___ To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: http://isp-lists.isp-planet.com/isp-wireless/archives/ To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. Copyright 2005 Jupitermedia Corporation All Rights Reserved. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] salary
Peter, That is good advice, and is relevent for this thread. However, it does not apply to my case. No veil peircing going on here. I think whats important is, the realization that its easy to have little details and formalities fall through the cracks in the world of limited time. The sooner one gets things in order and documented, the less risk they take inadvertently piercing the corporate veil. Trying to fix it after the fact, can be a pain. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Peter R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 9:34 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] salary Check with your CPA on that. The IRS likes to see salary and other activities that represent that your company really is a company and not a tax shelter so that you avoid the sole proprietor tax schedule. (It's called piercing the veil -- if you don't have minutes and annual shareholder meetings and run it like a business, you lose the corporate shield for tax purposes AND for liability as in civil litigation). - Peter Tom DeReggi wrote: Zero. When the CEO is also the primary investor, and the company is an S-corp or LLC, why pay payroll tax, when you can just take a repayment of loan? The salary of the CEO can be meaningless unless also disclosed wether they have an equity position or not, and of what caliber. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Excise Tax Refund
http://denver.bizjournals.com/denver/stories/2006/12/18/story8.html?t=printable Thank you. Regards, Peter Radizeski RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist We Help ISPs Connect Communicate 813.963.5884 efax 530-323-7025 http://4isps.com + Consultant says refund 'shortcut' shortchanges businesses owed money The Denver Business Journal - December 15, 2006 Local businesses could leave lots of money unclaimed if they use the Internal Revenue Service's shortcut option for an excise tax refund on long-distance services, a Denver-based telecommunications consultant says. Bruce Minor, senior consultant for Denver-based DSI LLC, said companies may lose 33 percent to 67 percent of what they are entitled to get if they use a formula that lets businesses and tax-exempt organizations estimate refunds themselves. But those who take the time to investigate their long-distance bills of the last three years potentially could recover big bucks -- especially if long-distance costs factor highly into a company's operating expenses, Minor said. Minor, who specializes in finding telecom savings for businesses, claimed he already has recovered refunds of up to $60,000 for several dozen clients. DSI's customers include Vail Resorts, RTD and Peerless Tires. But getting a full refund requires recipients to gather up to 41 months of old phone records, according to IRS Commissioner Mark Everson. In mid-November, the IRS announced a formula that allows individuals and organizations to estimate their refunds, using their April 2006 and September 2006 phone bills. The agency said it developed the formula after receiving public input and discussing the issue with business organizations, including the Small Business Administration and representatives from tax-exempt organizations. The difference between the bills then is applied to the quarterly or annual telephone expenses to determine the refund, which is capped at 2 percent of the total telephone expenses for businesses and tax-exempt organizations with 250 or fewer employees. We believe we have developed a reasonable method for estimating telephone excise tax refund amounts while reducing burden, Everson said. But Minor contended the formula cuts a lot of people out of a lot of money. He said small businesses that are willing to invest some effort into retrieving their records can recover more. He recommends a complete inventory of phone records for any business that spends more than $5,000 a month on telephone services. Andrew Lee, a tax partner with the Denver office of Ernst Young, said the formula might save some clients time and money, depending on how much their long-distance usage has changed in the last three years. A large number of businesses are not going to be able to obtain such detailed information without going through a lot of brain damage, he said. Minor said businesses and individuals should apply for the refund in their 2006 tax returns. If you wait until 2007, you could lose a third of your potential recover, he said. Lee said the refund is discussed in accounting circles, but may not be as well-known to the public. However, that may change at the beginning of next year as business periodicals publish their annual tax tips. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Loggin BGP Flap
I am using a Mikrotik v2.9.37 router and doing BGP with an ATT peer. The continually lose the BGP connection with the peer and then resets itself. This causes the router to lose all of its routes and then reload them. I have the keepalive-timer = 60 and the hold-timer = 240. How do I turn on logging for the BGP sessions so that I can figure out why this connection is flapping? Jory Privett WCCS -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Making progress one step at a time
whoo hoo! Welcome to the club! Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 7:10 AM Subject: [WISPA] Making progress one step at a time Just a quick note to let EVERYONE know that I stood up my first paying customer this week! The Tranzeo gear goes in real easy and so far (knock on my wooden head) works great! Thanks to all who answered all my stupid questions and helped me so far. Regards, Jim in Kansas City -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] ot, private chat
Hi All, A few years back, there was a program called Blab-it. It was a private chat system. I have a couple of corporate customers that are interested in a Yahoo or MSN Messenger type application but they want it isolated to their own network (including remote offices) and they want better security. Anyone know of such a beast? I could probably handle something that rides on my server, but a system that would ride on the customer's server is what they are mostly after. thanks! Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ot, private chat
How about a Jabber server? On 12/18/06, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, A few years back, there was a program called Blab-it. It was a private chat system. I have a couple of corporate customers that are interested in a Yahoo or MSN Messenger type application but they want it isolated to their own network (including remote offices) and they want better security. Anyone know of such a beast? I could probably handle something that rides on my server, but a system that would ride on the customer's server is what they are mostly after. thanks! Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5
Yes, I can confirm Scrivs point. I have a 300' cat5 25 Pr and it is punched down on a 12 port RJ45 Block, standard Cat5e terminal. It has worked well, thou I am not using today. No good reason, just wanted to have fewer connectors. Ron Wallace Hahnron, Inc. 220 S. Jackson Dt. Addison, MI 49220 Phone: (517)547-8410 Mobile: (517)605-4542 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: John Scrivner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 02:08 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5 If you need 100 megabit Cat 5 performance then it is best to terminate on 110 blocks instead of 66 blocks. That is what I was always told in the past. I have no proof other than what others told me. Can anyone else confirm or deny? Scriv Brad Belton wrote: Yep, standard 25pr 66 blocks mounted inside NEMA4 enclosures. Works well. I've attached a snapshot. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 3:29 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: RE: RE: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5 Punch blocks, enclosures? What did you do for that? Brian Yep, works nicely. We've run several hubs with 25pr CAT5 outdoor cable. Gobs and gobs of goo inside...have a few hand rags ready! I believe the cable brand is Mohawk. Good stuff. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 1:48 PM To: Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization Subject: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5 Does anyone use, have thoughts about, or know where to get 25 pr outdoor cat5? I am curious if using it on a tower could save in future deployments. You'd have it punched in a block at the top and bottom and would only have run jumpers for new radios. Brian -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.19/587 - Release Date: 12/14/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] building out (was: salary)
Tom, My limited exposure has a different perspective: It is easier to keep building out instead of selling deep. A prospect comes to the WISP with a $400 per month pipe and the WISP builds to him. There is the hope (and the hype) that this prospect will be the first of many - and the footprint is extended. I don't see fiber providers selling deep. I don't see many WISP selling deep either. The cash flow comes from filling the pipe. That's my 2 cents. Peter @ RAD_INFO, Inc. Tom DeReggi wrote: Mac, Great insight. But the truth is we are not just wireless alcholics with an addiction to build. There is a reason we (WISPs) keep building. The reason is after considering the impact the new tower build would have, we can truthfully look at the big picture and say that our company is better off with the tower than without, from an evaluation/financial point of view. If a move brings a company in a positive direction, why not do it? The new tower never costs as much as the early ones. Everytime a new tower is built, new opportunity gets created, but old costs get shared, such as the upfront fixed costs of backbone transit bandwdith and primary overhead office staff. In this business, its hard to stay small. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] salary
Sweat equity. The Google boys' $1 salary. Different levels of stock. Investors. }}} All of that is tax planning and corporate law. An S Corp has limitations - both tax and structure. There is a limit on who can be a stockholder and how many. (Like no foreign investment). There can only be one kind of stock. Everyone in an S Corp has to get the same benefits - so if you take health care, so does every employee. Minutes and meetings are required annually. Business plan is a necessity. Also, losses for 4 years straight for an LLC and S Corp is a flag at the IRS. Losses indicate a hobby. BTW, some states don't like the LLC (like California). The 2 reasons to incorporate is to reduce tax liability and protect against personal liability (asset protection). Asset protection and tax strategy are complicated. Many CPA's aren't equipped to do complex tax work. (They can only pump a 1040). Three good tax/asset strategists are Sandy Botkin, Lee Phillips, and Lisa Tom. Make sure that your CPA is willing to go with you to the IRS to defend your accounting practices. (And I would get that it writing). Regards, Peter Radizeski RAD-INFO, Inc. (813) 963-5884 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] salary
Mac, and Matt. This is an easy question to answer. You stop doing it when it stops being fun and becomes a job. I built five 100' towers this Summer. It was fun especially the day I had three erections. Lonnie On 12/18/06, Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gino, That's a question that Larsen and I have been hunting an answer to for a couple years. We both said we were going to sit back and collect some of our initial investments back over a year ago. I know Larsen is still hanging gear in every town along the 3 States he borders (get 'em son) and also created one of the longest production wireless backhaul links (60+ miles) of anybody anywhere that I am aware of. I too have built 7 new towers in the last few months and built out about a dozen new towns and gone to all fiber. My point is this - - - it's a vicious circle! When is enough - enough? We get a new tower up and swear this is the last, but from that tower there is another community that is yet without internet connectivity and just one more little hop will get them caught! It's a never ending story - - - looks like we need a wireless anonymous group to help us break the cycle!! If you find the cure - - send Larsen and myself a double dose. Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 12:51 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] salary The question I always ask myself is when to stop upgrading and expanding.. Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 12:08 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] salary Ditto, and we make enough profit to roll the profit back into our business in network upgrades, etc. If I stopped my upgrades and just collected money, I could lay someone off and make a very handsome roi. George John Scrivner wrote: Yes. We earn salary and profits. It is not as much as I would like but our company is profitable and has been for 9 years. Scriv Brian Rohrbacher wrote: Is this all such a big deal? You guys actually have profits!? Brian John Scrivner wrote: I do not think any WISPs here really know the answer to this. What is needed is an answer from an accountant. If anyone on here is a CPA and can share what the rules are I would be glad to see them. I do not believe that simply drawing profits from a S corp WISP as opposed to taking a salary is tax evasion. In a S corp you pay taxes for profits same as you do for payroll. Where you might have a problem is with unemployment insurance, social security, workmans comp, etc. Those are based on payroll. Profits are not in the calculation. Essentially you are dodging those when you do not take a salary. Scriv Charles Wu wrote: snip Zero. When the CEO is also the primary investor, and the company is an S-corp or LLC, why pay payroll tax, when you can just take a repayment of loan? The salary of the CEO can be meaningless unless also disclosed wether they have an equity position or not, and of what caliber. /snip B/c when you get audited by the IRS (which for any small business, is just a matter of time), you will FINED for tax evasion... -Charles --- WiNOG Wireless Roadshows Coming to a City Near You http://www.winog.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 1:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] salary Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 8:55 PM Subject: [WISPA] salary Hi, Just taking a quick survey... answer if you can, but be honest... ;) What is the salary of the CEO of your ISP? Even if you can share the percentage of that salary compared to annual gross revenue... Travis Microserv -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
