[WISPA] WISP in india

2007-08-23 Thread ram
iam working for an ISP India

we have very large corporate base around the city and state

all the City and and state connected over MPLS and NLD

now we are looking to provider broadband roaming Services
Both City and Rural ( like Hotspot and Wifi, and roaming users)

Looking to deploy the user base start from 10,000 users to with in 18months
200,000 users

Iam looking for combination solution wireless and wireline solution
Like DSL and DSLAM also.

Each user should be able to get 1MB up and 2MB Down.

contact me offline for the demo and proposals of revenue model some have in
place


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Re: [WISPA] Re: [WISP] Ohio Flooding

2007-08-23 Thread Joel White
I talked to Bo yesterday. All is seemingly well. His basement is flooded, and
he had to get off the phone because the insurance man was coming. It sounded
like he had no major damage to his infrastructure.

Joel White
NexGenAccess Inc.
www.nexgenaccess.com
740-513-4122

NexGenAccess Inc. http://www.nexgenaccess.com


-- Original Message ---
From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 21:14:39 -0700
Subject: [WISPA] Re: [WISP] Ohio Flooding

 Anything anyone one can do to help?  Is there equipment/manpower 
 that you need?
 
 laters,
 marlon
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Kurt Fankhauser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 5:55 PM
 Subject: RE: [WISP] Ohio Flooding
 
 I havn't seen Bo around town any, his basement might be flooded,
  everyone else's is. We got 9 inches of rain in 4 hours and all kinds of
  problems. I got a tower sitting in water with no power. Running on
  generators and batteries. Another tower at a grain facility fried their
  electrical system with no plans to fix it, I went their yesterday
  morning to see why the internet wasn't working and the 3 phase power was
  underwater and smoking the whole place up. Towers are running right now
  but customers got flooded basements with POE's underwater and lightning
  damage, just started to get those calls this afternoon. Roads flooded
  can't get anywhere in any amount of time, traffic is horrible and
  gawking people stopping on the road or trying to run into you.
 
  Kurt Fankhauser
  WAVELINC
  114 S. Walnut St.
  Bucyrus, OH 44820
  419-562-6405
  www.wavelinc.com
 
 
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  Subject: [WISP] Ohio Flooding
 
  Bo Hamilton, Got your scuba gear on !! How's the wireless doing in the
  flooding ?
 
 
 
 
  
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Re: [WISPA] speedtest

2007-08-23 Thread Matt Liotta
We host the Atlanta speedtest.net site. We also happen to be ranked 3rd 
in North America for download and 1st for upload.


-Matt

Ryan Langseth wrote:

Travis,

Yea, we actually host one of their public speedtest.net sites (Grand
Forks ND),  the only requirement from them is you have at least 40 mb
upload.  The most popular locations see a max of 10 mb/s usage, in
bursts.  You can also get some interesting reporting (IPs and speeds)
from them when you host a site for them. With hosting their public one,
its free.

Ryan



On Wed, 2007-08-22 at 14:19 -0600, Travis Johnson wrote:
  

Hi,

I recently found a very cool, fairly accurate web-based speed test 
program. You can get a trial version off their website at 
speedtest.net. It's Flash based (on the client side only) and runs very 
well under linux and apache. The catch is they want $400 PER YEAR for 
this program. Has anyone seen something similiar for less (or even a 
one-time cost)?


We have two other free ones (a Java based one) and another that does 
download only already installed... but this Flash one seems to be the 
most accurate, and also does upload tests.


thanks,

Travis
Microserv


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[WISPA] Daytona, FL access

2007-08-23 Thread Dylan Bouterse
I apologize but I lost my contact for access in Daytona, FL. If the
gentleman I was talking to that has access in Daytona would please
contact me again off list I would appreciate it. Thank you!

Dylan


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RE: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum

2007-08-23 Thread Patrick Leary
Agreed, but little gems are still being found all the time as leases
expire, etc. Never hurts to check, but you are right that eyes should be
wide open and one needs a proper expectation of the cost and work
involved. This is definitely not stuff done on an adhoc, unprepared
basis.

- Patrick

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jon Langeler
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 8:08 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum

The research takes time and will probably result in dissapointment of an

organization wanting too much money to sublet it or a cell company 
already got it. If you find a school that hasn't already leased out the 
spectrum or isn't already in talks, it is possible they don't even know 
about it and you have to educate them a little, but it's unlikely.
Negotiations are typically done between your lawyers and their lawyers. 
I'm sure the race to find/make the really good deals is mostly over but 
you never know...

Jon Langeler
Michwave Tech.


Scottie Arnett wrote:

It looks as though BellSouth and Nextel have the 2.3 and Nextel has the
2.5.
I thought they set aside some of those frequencies for schools? Can the
schools still have the license along with the big guys?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 4:18 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum


That's a very simple process Scottie, which is achieved using the FCC
Web
site. From the home page of www.fcc.gov, go to the Wireless
Telecommunications Bureau area (choice on the right, scrolled down a
tad),
then go to License Search (also a choice on the right). Specifically,
go
here: http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/searchLicense.jsp

On this page I prefer using the Specialized search category. Pick one
and
fill in as few fields as you want. Enter more fields to narrow, etc.
This
will pull up records and each of those records allows you to drill down
further to get maps, contact info, etc.

- Patrick
Alvarion

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Scottie Arnett
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 1:56 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum



How can I find out who owns it in my area...I think the school system
still
has it, but not sure.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 3:28 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum


Scottie,

If you think the base station is expensive, then you'd pass out knowing
how
much it'd cost you to get access to just 12 MHz of either set of
spectrum
even in a rural market. Put it this way, a big city would carry a price
tag
well into 8 digits.

- Patrick

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Scottie Arnett
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 1:19 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum



Maybe a very rough number for a fixed/nomadic type base station (360
degrees) might be around $40k.

WOW! I think I will stick with unlicensed for now. The idea of customer
provided CPE is alluring, but its not that tempting for me.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 2:46 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum


We do, and have been commercially selling 802.16e (mobile-ready WiMAX)
-
called BreezeMAX 2300 and BreezeMAX 2500 all through this year.

In the licensed pmp space, especially for .16e systems, the answer of
average cost of AP and CPE is not so simple. There are many types of
CPE
and there really is no AP. You have complex base station
infrastructures
in these bands, with multiple levels of diversity. Maybe a very rough
number
for a fixed/nomadic type base station (360 degrees) might be around
$40k.
For fixed outdoor CPE, use the numbers you are used to today for
quality
CPE. For indoor self-install CPE SIM-card based, bought at a retail
outlet
or mailed by the operator), a rough number might be $250ish today
driving
lower. PCMCIA cards are around the corner and will be obviously much
cheaper. Embedded devices, starting with laptops, are maybe less than a
year
away for early versions. Embedded consumer devices will come as early
as
late 2008 and will be produced in decent volumes by 2010.

Base stations to support the mobile personal broadband devices will
be
require the addition of tons of things, like ASN gateways, AAA servers,
etc.

Patrick
Alvarion



  




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Re: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum

2007-08-23 Thread Tom DeReggi
Is there a documentation/reporting requirement of EBS spectrum holders that 
requires them to report who they leased their spectrum to, and when/if they 
leased it?
In other words, does the FCC search just show the original spectrum holder 
(educational insititute) or also the subleasee?


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 8:43 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum


The band generally called 2.5 refers to an almost 200 MHz collection
of spectrum divided up about 60% as non-profit EBS (educational
broadband service) spectrum and 40% commercially auctioned BRS
(broadband radio service) spectrum. These were formerly called ITFS
(instructional fixed television service) and MMDS (multimedia
distribution service). The original allocation was for one-way cable,
but over the past years the band has been re-configured for broadband
service.

In any one area a variety of commercial and non-profits have various
channels. The FCC allows the non-profits (including the schools you
refer to) to sublet the spectrum to commercial operators.

The 2.3 range is called WCS (wireless communications services) and is
different than the 2.5, both in terms of typical available channel sizes
and technical rules.

BellSouth, as part of the ATT acquisition thereof, was required by the
feds to sell its stake in the commercial 2.5 GHz bands (principally
around Florida and New Orleans). Clearwire bought these assets for $300
million a few months back.

- Patrick

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Scottie Arnett
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 2:52 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum



It looks as though BellSouth and Nextel have the 2.3 and Nextel has the
2.5.
I thought they set aside some of those frequencies for schools? Can the
schools still have the license along with the big guys?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 4:18 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum


That's a very simple process Scottie, which is achieved using the FCC
Web
site. From the home page of www.fcc.gov, go to the Wireless
Telecommunications Bureau area (choice on the right, scrolled down a
tad),
then go to License Search (also a choice on the right). Specifically, go
here: http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/searchLicense.jsp

On this page I prefer using the Specialized search category. Pick one
and
fill in as few fields as you want. Enter more fields to narrow, etc.
This
will pull up records and each of those records allows you to drill down
further to get maps, contact info, etc.

- Patrick
Alvarion

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Scottie Arnett
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 1:56 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum



How can I find out who owns it in my area...I think the school system
still
has it, but not sure.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 3:28 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum


Scottie,

If you think the base station is expensive, then you'd pass out knowing
how
much it'd cost you to get access to just 12 MHz of either set of
spectrum
even in a rural market. Put it this way, a big city would carry a price
tag
well into 8 digits.

- Patrick

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Scottie Arnett
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 1:19 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum



Maybe a very rough number for a fixed/nomadic type base station (360
degrees) might be around $40k.

WOW! I think I will stick with unlicensed for now. The idea of customer
provided CPE is alluring, but its not that tempting for me.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 2:46 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum


We do, and have been commercially selling 802.16e (mobile-ready WiMAX) -
called BreezeMAX 2300 and BreezeMAX 2500 all through this year.

In the licensed pmp space, especially for .16e systems, the answer of
average cost of AP and CPE is not so simple. There are many types of
CPE
and there really is no AP. You have complex base station
infrastructures
in these bands, with multiple levels of diversity. Maybe a very rough
number
for a fixed/nomadic type base station (360 degrees) might 

RE: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum

2007-08-23 Thread Patrick Leary
Yes and the FCC site has a specific search feature just for these things
and refers to this activity as Secondary Markets.

Patrick 
Alvarion

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 1:13 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum

Is there a documentation/reporting requirement of EBS spectrum holders
that 
requires them to report who they leased their spectrum to, and when/if
they 
leased it?
In other words, does the FCC search just show the original spectrum
holder 
(educational insititute) or also the subleasee?

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 8:43 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum


The band generally called 2.5 refers to an almost 200 MHz collection
of spectrum divided up about 60% as non-profit EBS (educational
broadband service) spectrum and 40% commercially auctioned BRS
(broadband radio service) spectrum. These were formerly called ITFS
(instructional fixed television service) and MMDS (multimedia
distribution service). The original allocation was for one-way cable,
but over the past years the band has been re-configured for broadband
service.

In any one area a variety of commercial and non-profits have various
channels. The FCC allows the non-profits (including the schools you
refer to) to sublet the spectrum to commercial operators.

The 2.3 range is called WCS (wireless communications services) and is
different than the 2.5, both in terms of typical available channel sizes
and technical rules.

BellSouth, as part of the ATT acquisition thereof, was required by the
feds to sell its stake in the commercial 2.5 GHz bands (principally
around Florida and New Orleans). Clearwire bought these assets for $300
million a few months back.

- Patrick

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Scottie Arnett
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 2:52 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum



It looks as though BellSouth and Nextel have the 2.3 and Nextel has the
2.5.
I thought they set aside some of those frequencies for schools? Can the
schools still have the license along with the big guys?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 4:18 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum


That's a very simple process Scottie, which is achieved using the FCC
Web
site. From the home page of www.fcc.gov, go to the Wireless
Telecommunications Bureau area (choice on the right, scrolled down a
tad),
then go to License Search (also a choice on the right). Specifically, go
here: http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/searchLicense.jsp

On this page I prefer using the Specialized search category. Pick one
and
fill in as few fields as you want. Enter more fields to narrow, etc.
This
will pull up records and each of those records allows you to drill down
further to get maps, contact info, etc.

- Patrick
Alvarion

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Scottie Arnett
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 1:56 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum



How can I find out who owns it in my area...I think the school system
still
has it, but not sure.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 3:28 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum


Scottie,

If you think the base station is expensive, then you'd pass out knowing
how
much it'd cost you to get access to just 12 MHz of either set of
spectrum
even in a rural market. Put it this way, a big city would carry a price
tag
well into 8 digits.

- Patrick

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Scottie Arnett
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 1:19 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum



Maybe a very rough number for a fixed/nomadic type base station (360
degrees) might be around $40k.

WOW! I think I will stick with unlicensed for now. The idea of customer
provided CPE is alluring, but its not that tempting for me.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 2:46 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum


We do, and have been commercially selling 802.16e (mobile-ready WiMAX) -
called BreezeMAX 2300 and BreezeMAX 2500 all 

RE: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum

2007-08-23 Thread Patrick Leary
 The way, the link to the Secondary Market specific search is: 

http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/searchLease.jsp

 Spectrum Lease Search

A new ULS feature to search for spectrum leases, including searches on
fields unique to leasing. The spectrum lease search results page is
standard ULS format with a link to lease details. The spectrum lease
detail page, also standard ULS format, is similar to license detail in
that the lease information is displayed in tabs such as Main, Admin,
Technical Data, and Market.

Patrick Leary
AVP, Market Development
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Visit Alvarion at WiMAX World
Chicago, September 25-27
Booth #409

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 1:30 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum

Yes and the FCC site has a specific search feature just for these things
and refers to this activity as Secondary Markets.

Patrick 
Alvarion

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 1:13 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum

Is there a documentation/reporting requirement of EBS spectrum holders
that 
requires them to report who they leased their spectrum to, and when/if
they 
leased it?
In other words, does the FCC search just show the original spectrum
holder 
(educational insititute) or also the subleasee?

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 8:43 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum


The band generally called 2.5 refers to an almost 200 MHz collection
of spectrum divided up about 60% as non-profit EBS (educational
broadband service) spectrum and 40% commercially auctioned BRS
(broadband radio service) spectrum. These were formerly called ITFS
(instructional fixed television service) and MMDS (multimedia
distribution service). The original allocation was for one-way cable,
but over the past years the band has been re-configured for broadband
service.

In any one area a variety of commercial and non-profits have various
channels. The FCC allows the non-profits (including the schools you
refer to) to sublet the spectrum to commercial operators.

The 2.3 range is called WCS (wireless communications services) and is
different than the 2.5, both in terms of typical available channel sizes
and technical rules.

BellSouth, as part of the ATT acquisition thereof, was required by the
feds to sell its stake in the commercial 2.5 GHz bands (principally
around Florida and New Orleans). Clearwire bought these assets for $300
million a few months back.

- Patrick

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Scottie Arnett
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 2:52 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum



It looks as though BellSouth and Nextel have the 2.3 and Nextel has the
2.5.
I thought they set aside some of those frequencies for schools? Can the
schools still have the license along with the big guys?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 4:18 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum


That's a very simple process Scottie, which is achieved using the FCC
Web
site. From the home page of www.fcc.gov, go to the Wireless
Telecommunications Bureau area (choice on the right, scrolled down a
tad),
then go to License Search (also a choice on the right). Specifically, go
here: http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/searchLicense.jsp

On this page I prefer using the Specialized search category. Pick one
and
fill in as few fields as you want. Enter more fields to narrow, etc.
This
will pull up records and each of those records allows you to drill down
further to get maps, contact info, etc.

- Patrick
Alvarion

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Scottie Arnett
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 1:56 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum



How can I find out who owns it in my area...I think the school system
still
has it, but not sure.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 3:28 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum


Scottie,

If you think the base station is expensive, then you'd pass out knowing
how
much it'd cost you to get access to just 12 MHz of either set of
spectrum
even 

Re: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum

2007-08-23 Thread John Scrivner
Why would you sell away your chance to sell on a licensed platform? I am 
sure you had your reasons but I am looking for ways to deliver services 
on licensed space myself. By the way, are you not a WISPA member Jon?

Scriv


Jon Langeler wrote:
Why take it to the member list? I guess I won't be inclined to share 
about our experience with the license we aquired from a school and 
sold to clearwire ;-)


Jon Langeler
Michwave Tech.


Carl A jeptha wrote:


Mac take it to the member list, as I am also interested in license.

You have a Good Day now,


Carl A Jeptha
http://www.airnet.ca
Office Phone: 905 349-2084
Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm
skype cajeptha



Mac Dearman wrote:


Jack,

  Most of the 2.5 and 2.3GHz spectrum has been being snatched up by 
Sprint
in the last 3 years. They aren't doing anything with it right now 
that I am
aware of, but rumor has it that they are in cahoots with Clear Wire. 
I have
a contract here between Sprint and the local educational facility 
that shows

a onetime payment of $50,000.00 and $250.00 a month. They locked the
spectrum into contract for the remainder of the 30 years. It would 
have been

nice if I had been a few months earlier on my quest!

 A man can find open/unused spectrum if he knows how/where to look 
in his
area. Drop me a line off list or on the member list and I will be 
glad to

share with you what I have learned lately.

Mac




 


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Behalf Of Jack Unger
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 7:03 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum

I have a client with a 900 MHz network that has been deployed more 
than

5 years. Apparently without doing a wireless site survey, the City has
deployed two 900 MHz automatic meter reading systems. One uses Itron
hardware and one use Utillicom hardware. There is now a head-to-head
battle as the City networks are creating intense interference problems
for the WISP network. I know all about interference-reduction
techniques
as I've been utilizing and teaching these techniques for years but 
what

I don't know about are the possibilities of leasing licensed spectrum
(2.3 or 2.5) in order to estimate the cost of moving from the 900 MHz
band to a licensed range. I'd appreciate it if anyone could offer any
advice or insight into possibly leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz frequency 
space.

Is this possible or is it out of the question?

Thanks in advance,

jack

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Re: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum

2007-08-23 Thread John Scrivner
So Patrick, if an operator has an interest in launching WiMAX using 
BreezeMax will Alvarion help them find and acquire access to a license 
in the market they are looking to launch? I know that is not your area 
of expertise but I also know that other competitive vendors are doing 
just this type of work to help operators get in the game.


If not I know that Kris Twomey and Stephen Coran are both capable of 
helping in this process. I am working on this myself.


It would be nice if an AWS profile were being established for WiMAX 
(since I have a license in this band which NOBODY has done anything with 
yet). I guess it will happen once someone steps up and places a BIG 
order!  :-)

Scriv


Patrick Leary wrote:
 The way, the link to the Secondary Market specific search is: 


http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/searchLease.jsp

 Spectrum Lease Search

A new ULS feature to search for spectrum leases, including searches on
fields unique to leasing. The spectrum lease search results page is
standard ULS format with a link to lease details. The spectrum lease
detail page, also standard ULS format, is similar to license detail in
that the lease information is displayed in tabs such as Main, Admin,
Technical Data, and Market.

Patrick Leary
AVP, Market Development
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 1:30 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum

Yes and the FCC site has a specific search feature just for these things
and refers to this activity as Secondary Markets.

Patrick 
Alvarion


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Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 1:13 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum

Is there a documentation/reporting requirement of EBS spectrum holders
that 
requires them to report who they leased their spectrum to, and when/if
they 
leased it?

In other words, does the FCC search just show the original spectrum
holder 
(educational insititute) or also the subleasee?


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 8:43 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum


The band generally called 2.5 refers to an almost 200 MHz collection
of spectrum divided up about 60% as non-profit EBS (educational
broadband service) spectrum and 40% commercially auctioned BRS
(broadband radio service) spectrum. These were formerly called ITFS
(instructional fixed television service) and MMDS (multimedia
distribution service). The original allocation was for one-way cable,
but over the past years the band has been re-configured for broadband
service.

In any one area a variety of commercial and non-profits have various
channels. The FCC allows the non-profits (including the schools you
refer to) to sublet the spectrum to commercial operators.

The 2.3 range is called WCS (wireless communications services) and is
different than the 2.5, both in terms of typical available channel sizes
and technical rules.

BellSouth, as part of the ATT acquisition thereof, was required by the
feds to sell its stake in the commercial 2.5 GHz bands (principally
around Florida and New Orleans). Clearwire bought these assets for $300
million a few months back.

- Patrick

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Scottie Arnett
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 2:52 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum



It looks as though BellSouth and Nextel have the 2.3 and Nextel has the
2.5.
I thought they set aside some of those frequencies for schools? Can the
schools still have the license along with the big guys?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 4:18 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum


That's a very simple process Scottie, which is achieved using the FCC
Web
site. From the home page of www.fcc.gov, go to the Wireless
Telecommunications Bureau area (choice on the right, scrolled down a
tad),
then go to License Search (also a choice on the right). Specifically, go
here: http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/searchLicense.jsp

On this page I prefer using the Specialized search category. Pick one
and
fill in as few fields as you want. Enter more fields to narrow, etc.
This
will pull up records and each of those records allows you to drill down
further to get maps, contact info, etc.

- Patrick
Alvarion


[WISPA] Delete This

2007-08-23 Thread John Scrivner

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[WISPA] Potential Wireless Access Point converted to a Home

2007-08-23 Thread Ryan Langseth

Way too many steps:

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2007-08-23 Thread John Scrivner

This is a test to see the new footer layout.
Scriv


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RE: [WISPA] Potential Wireless Access Point converted to a Home

2007-08-23 Thread D. Ryan Spott
I lived in a redwood water tower for about 6 months in Northern California.
My room was right below the tank. The tank sat on a tar covered floor with
drains on all 4 corners. I really couldn't figure out why they needed drains
_below_ the tank.. maybe for overflow.. who knew.. About a week later I hear
water running and I freak out thinking I am going to have a 1000 gallon bath
in bed so I run up to find the tank leaking between every vertical board.

I called the landlord at the next house over to tell him he needed to
tighten the steel bands that wrapped the tank because it was leaking so bad!
He laughed and called me a city boy. Turns out the redwood shrinks when the
tank drains and then expands as it fills, pressing against the steel bands.
The drains in the floor were designed to catch and drain the overflow while
the boards in the tank soaked up water and expanded.

Useless trivia, I thought it was kinda cool. 


ryan

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Way too many steps:

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;)


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[WISPA] Remote power Reboot.

2007-08-23 Thread Scottie Arnett
Hi all,

I am looking for a remote power reboot solution that works with telnet and/or 
auto ping for under $100. I know a couple of months ago I found one googling 
for about $89, but for the life of me can't find it again(guess I should have 
bought it then!). 

I only need AC one outlet for this to reboot a cable modem/router. I can only 
seem to find Dataprobes stuff, and with a background in electronics and 
programming, I have yet to see where the gold is at in this for $300.

I found this one http://www.digital-loggers.com/lpc.html but it doesn't work 
with telnet according to the email I just received from them. I guess I could 
just use the auto-ping feature and not have to use telnet, but the other one I 
had found did everything I was looking for.

I have an access server that I can dial into and access my network, but to 
reach other gear inside, I have to telnet to them. TIA for any suggestions.

Scott

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Re: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum

2007-08-23 Thread Tom DeReggi

John,

Several times you have suggested using legal council for finding licenses.
On the surface that sounds odd to me, just because
Why pay Lawyer rates ($400/hour) to do something that you could pay someone 
($15 per hour to research for you.).

Research takes time, and that could get expensive at Lawyer rates.
Expecially when there is a high outcome that the results may come back 
unsuccessful.
With that said, I understand there is a expertise involved in any specialty 
task.
What about this task, makes it advantageous or justifyable to use Legal 
Councul for this research?
I'm not challenging your advice, I just want to understand it better, since 
it is outside my expertise currently.
Ar these lawyers already aware of what spectrum might be available to 
accelerate the process (preventing timely research)?
Or is it just needing the Legal expertise to negotiate the aquisition of the 
spectrum?


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 11:12 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum


So Patrick, if an operator has an interest in launching WiMAX using 
BreezeMax will Alvarion help them find and acquire access to a license in 
the market they are looking to launch? I know that is not your area of 
expertise but I also know that other competitive vendors are doing just 
this type of work to help operators get in the game.


If not I know that Kris Twomey and Stephen Coran are both capable of 
helping in this process. I am working on this myself.


It would be nice if an AWS profile were being established for WiMAX (since 
I have a license in this band which NOBODY has done anything with yet). I 
guess it will happen once someone steps up and places a BIG order!  :-)

Scriv


Patrick Leary wrote:

 The way, the link to the Secondary Market specific search is:
http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/searchLease.jsp

 Spectrum Lease Search

A new ULS feature to search for spectrum leases, including searches on
fields unique to leasing. The spectrum lease search results page is
standard ULS format with a link to lease details. The spectrum lease
detail page, also standard ULS format, is similar to license detail in
that the lease information is displayed in tabs such as Main, Admin,
Technical Data, and Market.

Patrick Leary
AVP, Market Development
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Visit Alvarion at WiMAX World
Chicago, September 25-27
Booth #409

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 1:30 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum

Yes and the FCC site has a specific search feature just for these things
and refers to this activity as Secondary Markets.

Patrick Alvarion

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 1:13 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum

Is there a documentation/reporting requirement of EBS spectrum holders
that requires them to report who they leased their spectrum to, and 
when/if

they leased it?
In other words, does the FCC search just show the original spectrum
holder (educational insititute) or also the subleasee?

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 8:43 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum


The band generally called 2.5 refers to an almost 200 MHz collection
of spectrum divided up about 60% as non-profit EBS (educational
broadband service) spectrum and 40% commercially auctioned BRS
(broadband radio service) spectrum. These were formerly called ITFS
(instructional fixed television service) and MMDS (multimedia
distribution service). The original allocation was for one-way cable,
but over the past years the band has been re-configured for broadband
service.

In any one area a variety of commercial and non-profits have various
channels. The FCC allows the non-profits (including the schools you
refer to) to sublet the spectrum to commercial operators.

The 2.3 range is called WCS (wireless communications services) and is
different than the 2.5, both in terms of typical available channel sizes
and technical rules.

BellSouth, as part of the ATT acquisition thereof, was required by the
feds to sell its stake in the commercial 2.5 GHz bands (principally
around Florida and New Orleans). Clearwire bought these assets for $300
million a few months back.

- Patrick

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Scottie Arnett

Re: [WISPA] Remote power Reboot.

2007-08-23 Thread Tom DeReggi
I was only aware of the DigitalLogger device at that low a cost point ($89 + 
$39 for autoping.)

If you find the other one, let us know.
I believe the The Digital-Logger device does have the ability to allow you 
to automate scripting into it. Did you check the FAQ on thier website, I 
thought I saw a help file on that.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: Scottie Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 12:49 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Remote power Reboot.



Hi all,

I am looking for a remote power reboot solution that works with telnet 
and/or auto ping for under $100. I know a couple of months ago I found one 
googling for about $89, but for the life of me can't find it again(guess I 
should have bought it then!).


I only need AC one outlet for this to reboot a cable modem/router. I can 
only seem to find Dataprobes stuff, and with a background in electronics 
and programming, I have yet to see where the gold is at in this for $300.


I found this one http://www.digital-loggers.com/lpc.html but it doesn't 
work with telnet according to the email I just received from them. I guess 
I could just use the auto-ping feature and not have to use telnet, but the 
other one I had found did everything I was looking for.


I have an access server that I can dial into and access my network, but to 
reach other gear inside, I have to telnet to them. TIA for any 
suggestions.


Scott

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