Re: [WISPA] Trango and CALEA

[Josh Luthman]

It is a bridge.

I was actually thinking it would be the other wat around - but I guess not.

On 12/18/08, Butch Evans  wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-12-17 at 11:50 -0500, Josh Luthman wrote:
>> Has anyone got any ideas on how to use Trango's p2mp equipment and support
>> CALEA?
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> Is the Trango gear a bridge or routed stuff?  If bridge, the answer is
> easy...if it is routed...no so easy.
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Re: [WISPA] Trango and CALEA

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On Wed, 2008-12-17 at 11:50 -0500, Josh Luthman wrote:
> Has anyone got any ideas on how to use Trango's p2mp equipment and support
> CALEA?

Is the Trango gear a bridge or routed stuff?  If bridge, the answer is
easy...if it is routed...no so easy.

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Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

[Mike Hammett]

If you let me know who that carrier is, I can help you out.


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> I am in Salem, MO but I have Fibre to my office. My Fibre carrier has
> POP's in Rolla and St Louis so if I can find some cheap bandwidth they
> can transport for me.
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> -Original Message-
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> Mark McElvy wrote:
>> I am looking for wholesale bandwidth providers to either St Louis or
>> Rolla Missouri.
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> Do you need it delivered to your door, or just "somewhere" in town?
> Saint Louis has a couple downtown telco-hotel facilities (900 Walnut and
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Re: [WISPA] test

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I see the message

On 12/17/08, Brian Webster  wrote:
> Just testing to see if I got bounced due to server outages...
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[WISPA] test

[Brian Webster]

Just testing to see if I got bounced due to server outages...


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Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

[Mark McElvy]

I am in Salem, MO but I have Fibre to my office. My Fibre carrier has
POP's in Rolla and St Louis so if I can find some cheap bandwidth they
can transport for me. 

Mark

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Mark McElvy wrote:
> I am looking for wholesale bandwidth providers to either St Louis or
> Rolla Missouri.

Do you need it delivered to your door, or just "somewhere" in town? 
Saint Louis has a couple downtown telco-hotel facilities (900 Walnut and

210 Tucker, I think); you should be able to rent rack space and get 
basically as much connectivity as you want there.

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Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

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Mark McElvy wrote:
> I am looking for wholesale bandwidth providers to either St Louis or
> Rolla Missouri.

Do you need it delivered to your door, or just "somewhere" in town? 
Saint Louis has a couple downtown telco-hotel facilities (900 Walnut and 
210 Tucker, I think); you should be able to rent rack space and get 
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Re: [WISPA] Target market for wisps

[reader]

I have been seeing that trend for 4 years.

One of my first customers was dropping his landline for cellular and needed 
internet.







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> That will be us just as soon as I can make it happen.
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> The portion of homes with cell phones but no landlines has grown to 18
> percent, led by adults living with unrelated roommates, renters and young
> people, according to federal figures released Wednesday.
>
> An additional 13 percent of households have landlines but get all or 
> nearly
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> about three in 10 households are essentially reachable only on their
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Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

[Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs.net]

I.e. you want bandwidth out of st. louis? 

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[WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

[Mark McElvy]

I am looking for wholesale bandwidth providers to either St Louis or
Rolla Missouri.

 

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[WISPA] business leads

[Matt Liotta]

I am looking for WISPs who can provide service in the following  
locations:

Raleigh, NC 27606
Raleigh, NC 27612
Cary, NC 27519
Chapel Hill, NC 27514

Mount Juliet, TN 37122
Franklin, TN 37067

Our customer is requesting a dedicated 3Mbps symmetrical service. We  
plan on delivering a wired T1 to these locations unless we can partner  
with a WISP who can provide a 3Mbps service. Hit me offlist if you can  
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Re: [WISPA] Target market for wisps

[3-dB Networks]

Changing polarities might help... or try using gear with a better c/i ratio

But Travis is dead on... move to a different frequency

Daniel White
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> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Travis Johnson
> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 12:36 PM
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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Target market for wisps
> 
> Use other frequencies and install more sectors...
> 
> 5.3ghz for short range customers
> 5.4ghz for short range customers
> 5.8ghz for longer distances
> 
> Travis
> Microserv
> 
> Steve Barnes wrote:
> > Need some advice here.  We have this issue already but I am having to
> > turn down clients due to noise in the City.  I have a 3 Sector 300ft
> > Tower 1 mile north of town of 10,000 residents.  The southern sector has
> > the worst problem with signals due to the noise everyone's routers gives
> > off.  So my 2.4 In the city is really bad.  How are others servicing
> > these people?  Using StarOS and Tranzeo 2.4.  I also have a 5.8 sector
> > over the city but that is for Business Clients.
> >
> > Steve Barnes
> > RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> > Behalf Of George Rogato
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 12:06 PM
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> > Subject: [WISPA] Target market for wisps
> >
> > The portion of homes with cell phones but no landlines has grown to 18
> > percent, led by adults living with unrelated roommates, renters and
> > young people, according to federal figures released Wednesday.
> >
> > An additional 13 percent of households have landlines but get all or
> > nearly all calls on their cells, the survey showed. Taken together, that
> >
> > means about three in 10 households are essentially reachable only on
> > their wireless phones.
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Re: [WISPA] Target market for wisps

[Brian Webster]

And to add to that idea, put another site in the area maybe to the South to
shed some of the load from the current AP. This of course takes careful
planning with coverage overlaps and frequency re-use to avoid self
interference or using up the spectrum needlessly. Deploying systems that
have some sort of time synchronization also helps a great deal. Self
interference can be more easily controlled. In a metro market with a lot of
noise, you would be surprised how well it works, even when competing with
another WISP. When I worked for EarthLink, we were able to do this in Philly
with a competing WISP (In this case using Canopy). It was hard getting both
sides to the table to adjust network timing issues, but after that was done
most of the interference problems went away.

It is very hard to make any type of carrier sense collision avoidance (CSMA)
technology not interfere with itself and get maximum frequency reuse.



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Use other frequencies and install more sectors...

5.3ghz for short range customers
5.4ghz for short range customers
5.8ghz for longer distances

Travis
Microserv

Steve Barnes wrote:
> Need some advice here.  We have this issue already but I am having to
> turn down clients due to noise in the City.  I have a 3 Sector 300ft
> Tower 1 mile north of town of 10,000 residents.  The southern sector has
> the worst problem with signals due to the noise everyone's routers gives
> off.  So my 2.4 In the city is really bad.  How are others servicing
> these people?  Using StarOS and Tranzeo 2.4.  I also have a 5.8 sector
> over the city but that is for Business Clients.
>
> Steve Barnes
> RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service
>
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of George Rogato
> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 12:06 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] Target market for wisps
>
> The portion of homes with cell phones but no landlines has grown to 18
> percent, led by adults living with unrelated roommates, renters and
> young people, according to federal figures released Wednesday.
>
> An additional 13 percent of households have landlines but get all or
> nearly all calls on their cells, the survey showed. Taken together, that
>
> means about three in 10 households are essentially reachable only on
> their wireless phones.
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> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081217/ap_on_hi_te/cell_phones_only
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Re: [WISPA] Target market for wisps

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Travis Johnson wrote:
> Use other frequencies and install more sectors...
>
> 5.3ghz for short range customers
> 5.4ghz for short range customers
> 5.8ghz for longer distances
>
> Travis
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>   

Thats what we do. We also use micro pops and use 10MHz channels.




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Re: [WISPA] Target market for wisps

[Travis Johnson]

Use other frequencies and install more sectors...

5.3ghz for short range customers
5.4ghz for short range customers
5.8ghz for longer distances

Travis
Microserv

Steve Barnes wrote:
> Need some advice here.  We have this issue already but I am having to
> turn down clients due to noise in the City.  I have a 3 Sector 300ft
> Tower 1 mile north of town of 10,000 residents.  The southern sector has
> the worst problem with signals due to the noise everyone's routers gives
> off.  So my 2.4 In the city is really bad.  How are others servicing
> these people?  Using StarOS and Tranzeo 2.4.  I also have a 5.8 sector
> over the city but that is for Business Clients.
>
> Steve Barnes
> RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service
>
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of George Rogato
> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 12:06 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] Target market for wisps
>
> The portion of homes with cell phones but no landlines has grown to 18 
> percent, led by adults living with unrelated roommates, renters and 
> young people, according to federal figures released Wednesday.
>
> An additional 13 percent of households have landlines but get all or 
> nearly all calls on their cells, the survey showed. Taken together, that
>
> means about three in 10 households are essentially reachable only on 
> their wireless phones.
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>
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081217/ap_on_hi_te/cell_phones_only
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Re: [WISPA] Target market for wisps

[Steve Barnes]

Need some advice here.  We have this issue already but I am having to
turn down clients due to noise in the City.  I have a 3 Sector 300ft
Tower 1 mile north of town of 10,000 residents.  The southern sector has
the worst problem with signals due to the noise everyone's routers gives
off.  So my 2.4 In the city is really bad.  How are others servicing
these people?  Using StarOS and Tranzeo 2.4.  I also have a 5.8 sector
over the city but that is for Business Clients.

Steve Barnes
RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of George Rogato
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 12:06 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Target market for wisps

The portion of homes with cell phones but no landlines has grown to 18 
percent, led by adults living with unrelated roommates, renters and 
young people, according to federal figures released Wednesday.

An additional 13 percent of households have landlines but get all or 
nearly all calls on their cells, the survey showed. Taken together, that

means about three in 10 households are essentially reachable only on 
their wireless phones.


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Re: [WISPA] [Mikrotik] Winter connectivity issues

[Jim Patient]

Hey Mark,

Is your AP running 3.17 and firmware 2.18?  If not try updating. 
Try setting hardware retries to 10 and preamble to either short or long 
(whatever Tranzio runs).   I use short on MT clients.

Jim
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Mark McElvy wrote:
> 12, all Tranzeo CPQ except one.
>
> Mark
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 6:24 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Mikrotik] Winter connectivity issues
>
> Multiple CPEs on the same AP?
>
> On 12/15/08, Mark McElvy  wrote:
>   
>> Signal levels are stable. Ping times are erratic and Customers
>> 
> complain
>   
>> of slow internet. PPPoE will not stay connected.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
>> 
> On
>   
>> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
>> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 5:00 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Winter connectivity issues
>>
>> In my experience water in the connector makes the RSSI drop from mid
>> -60s to
>> -90s
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
>> --- Henry Spencer
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 4:59 PM, Mark McElvy 
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> The ones that seem to have issues are close and LOS the further ones
>>> seem to be ok.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
>>>   
>> On
>> 
>>> Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
>>> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 3:45 PM
>>> To: 'WISPA General List'
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Winter connectivity issues
>>>
>>> Are any of your links not line of sight? I have to back off power on
>>> some of
>>> my clients because in the summer they are fine but in the winter when
>>> the
>>> leaves fall off I get a lot of multi-path which causes poor
>>>   
>> performance.
>> 
>>> Kurt Fankhauser
>>> WAVELINC
>>> P.O. Box 126
>>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>>> 419-562-6405
>>> www.wavelinc.com
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
>>>   
>> On
>> 
>>> Behalf Of Mark McElvy
>>> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 2:58 PM
>>> To: mikro...@mail.butchevans.com; wireless@wispa.org
>>> Subject: [WISPA] Winter connectivity issues
>>>
>>> I have 4 tower locations, only one seems to be having issues. Last
>>>   
>> week,
>> 
>>> then today I have a few customers on one tower having slow connection
>>> issues. High ping times from less than 1 ms to 4-500ms with packet
>>>   
>> loss.
>> 
>>> The one complaining customer has a -56 @ client end and -60 @ AP. The
>>> common denominator is weather, it is currently about 10 deg F and we
>>>   
>> had
>> 
>>> some, not a lot of freezing rain last night.
>>>
>>> This tower is running a RB 433 w/ XR2 and HPol omni. New in spring
>>>   
> due
>   
>>> to lightning storm. The only time I experienced issues last year was
>>> with heavy icing.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Any thought? Would you think it's the ice or maybe freezing moisture
>>>   
>> in
>> 
>>> the enclosure?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mark in South central Missouri
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] Target market for wisps

[Jeff Broadwick]

That will be us just as soon as I can make it happen.

Jeff 

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of George Rogato
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 12:06 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Target market for wisps

The portion of homes with cell phones but no landlines has grown to 18
percent, led by adults living with unrelated roommates, renters and young
people, according to federal figures released Wednesday.

An additional 13 percent of households have landlines but get all or nearly
all calls on their cells, the survey showed. Taken together, that means
about three in 10 households are essentially reachable only on their
wireless phones.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081217/ap_on_hi_te/cell_phones_only




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[WISPA] Target market for wisps

[George Rogato]

The portion of homes with cell phones but no landlines has grown to 18 
percent, led by adults living with unrelated roommates, renters and 
young people, according to federal figures released Wednesday.

An additional 13 percent of households have landlines but get all or 
nearly all calls on their cells, the survey showed. Taken together, that 
means about three in 10 households are essentially reachable only on 
their wireless phones.


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[WISPA] Trango and CALEA

[Josh Luthman]

Has anyone got any ideas on how to use Trango's p2mp equipment and support
CALEA?

Josh Luthman
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Re: [WISPA] Winter connectivity issues

[Marlon K. Schafer]

That's close enough.  I can pick up systems ap to ap at 40 miles and most of 
my systems are BELOW legal levels by quite a bit.

A channel change is quick and easy to try...
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: "Mark McElvy" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Winter connectivity issues


> My closest tower to this one is 14 miles. We are fairly rural.
>
> Mark
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 8:52 AM
> To: lakel...@gbcx.net; WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Winter connectivity issues
>
> Try changing channels too.  Water *usually* give strange signal
> levels
> Looks more like interference to me.  Very possibly from some of your own
>
> towers???
> marlon
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 12:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Winter connectivity issues
>
>
>> Water in connectors. When it freezes it crystalizes and gives a poor
>> connection. Maybe a cracked/broken antenna with moisture incursion.
>>
>> Antennas on towers are subject to falling ice regardless of the type
> of
>> antenna.
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: "Mark McElvy" 
>>
>> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:58:25
>> To: ; 
>> Subject: [WISPA] Winter connectivity issues
>>
>>
>> I have 4 tower locations, only one seems to be having issues. Last
> week,
>> then today I have a few customers on one tower having slow connection
>> issues. High ping times from less than 1 ms to 4-500ms with packet
> loss.
>> The one complaining customer has a -56 @ client end and -60 @ AP. The
>> common denominator is weather, it is currently about 10 deg F and we
> had
>> some, not a lot of freezing rain last night.
>>
>> This tower is running a RB 433 w/ XR2 and HPol omni. New in spring due
>> to lightning storm. The only time I experienced issues last year was
>> with heavy icing.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any thought? Would you think it's the ice or maybe freezing moisture
> in
>> the enclosure?
>>
>>
>>
>> Mark in South central Missouri
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Winter connectivity issues

[J. Vogel]

14 miles is not too far to cause interference.


On Wed, December 17, 2008 10:16 am, Mark McElvy wrote:
> My closest tower to this one is 14 miles. We are fairly rural.
>
> Mark
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 8:52 AM
> To: lakel...@gbcx.net; WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Winter connectivity issues
>
> Try changing channels too.  Water *usually* give strange signal
> levels
> Looks more like interference to me.  Very possibly from some of your own
>
> towers???
> marlon
>
> - Original Message -
> From: 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 12:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Winter connectivity issues
>
>
>> Water in connectors. When it freezes it crystalizes and gives a poor
>> connection. Maybe a cracked/broken antenna with moisture incursion.
>>
>> Antennas on towers are subject to falling ice regardless of the type
> of
>> antenna.
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: "Mark McElvy" 
>>
>> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:58:25
>> To: ; 
>> Subject: [WISPA] Winter connectivity issues
>>
>>
>> I have 4 tower locations, only one seems to be having issues. Last
> week,
>> then today I have a few customers on one tower having slow connection
>> issues. High ping times from less than 1 ms to 4-500ms with packet
> loss.
>> The one complaining customer has a -56 @ client end and -60 @ AP. The
>> common denominator is weather, it is currently about 10 deg F and we
> had
>> some, not a lot of freezing rain last night.
>>
>> This tower is running a RB 433 w/ XR2 and HPol omni. New in spring due
>> to lightning storm. The only time I experienced issues last year was
>> with heavy icing.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any thought? Would you think it's the ice or maybe freezing moisture
> in
>> the enclosure?
>>
>>
>>
>> Mark in South central Missouri
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Winter connectivity issues

[Mark McElvy]

My closest tower to this one is 14 miles. We are fairly rural.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 8:52 AM
To: lakel...@gbcx.net; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Winter connectivity issues

Try changing channels too.  Water *usually* give strange signal
levels 
Looks more like interference to me.  Very possibly from some of your own

towers???
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 12:18 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Winter connectivity issues


> Water in connectors. When it freezes it crystalizes and gives a poor 
> connection. Maybe a cracked/broken antenna with moisture incursion.
>
> Antennas on towers are subject to falling ice regardless of the type
of 
> antenna.
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -Original Message-
> From: "Mark McElvy" 
>
> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:58:25
> To: ; 
> Subject: [WISPA] Winter connectivity issues
>
>
> I have 4 tower locations, only one seems to be having issues. Last
week,
> then today I have a few customers on one tower having slow connection
> issues. High ping times from less than 1 ms to 4-500ms with packet
loss.
> The one complaining customer has a -56 @ client end and -60 @ AP. The
> common denominator is weather, it is currently about 10 deg F and we
had
> some, not a lot of freezing rain last night.
>
> This tower is running a RB 433 w/ XR2 and HPol omni. New in spring due
> to lightning storm. The only time I experienced issues last year was
> with heavy icing.
>
>
>
> Any thought? Would you think it's the ice or maybe freezing moisture
in
> the enclosure?
>
>
>
> Mark in South central Missouri
>
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] OT Excel Help

[Jeremy Davis]

> Thanks, I'll check it out

Let me know if you can't get it done with Excel.  It would take me like 10 
minutes to write something in perl to make it happen.

Sincerely,

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Re: [WISPA] OT Mail help

[Marlon K. Schafer]

Yeppers.  Frank's a great guy.  It's nice to have vendors with this much 
integrity and heart about our overall industry, not just his own part of it.
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: "Sam Tetherow" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT Mail help


> Not very often you see that... For those that don't know Frank actually
> resells a competitive service (Postini).
>
> Sam Tetherow
> Sandhills Wireless
> (a very satisfied SecureEmailPlus customer)
>
> Frank Muto wrote:
>> You are running Barracuda, see this
>> http://www.barracudanetworks.com/ns/downloads/barracuda_anti_spoofing_solution_white_paper.pdf
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Frank Muto
>> President
>> FSM Marketing Group, Inc.
>> Google Security Services Distributor
>> www.SecureEmailPlus.com
>>
>> 800-246-7740 - Toll Free
>> 630-258-7422 - Direct
>>
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>>
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>> From: "Gino Villarini" 
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 2:47 PM
>> Subject: [WISPA] OT Mail help
>>
>>
>>
>>> anyone can decifer where this email is comming from? we have a Exchange
>>> server for our office, all users are receving this spam
>>>
>>> Microsoft Mail Internet Headers Version 2.0
>>> Received: from aerosrv ([127.0.0.1]) by aeronetpr.net with Microsoft
>>> SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959);
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>>> Return-Path: 
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>>> for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:50:31 -0400
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Re: [WISPA] Survey Comments: 2. Do you see value in raising WISPA feesto allow for more efficient lobbying efforts with the FCC andother Government Entities

[Marlon K. Schafer]

The narrower they are the higher the power can be.  It's a complicated formula 
that I never figured out.
marlon

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  Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 11:12 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Survey Comments: 2. Do you see value in raising WISPA 
feesto allow for more efficient lobbying efforts with the FCC andother 
Government Entities


  Marlon K. Schafer wrote: 
Got the FCC to agree that a routed group of individual AP's could fall under 
the same higher powered 2.4ghz rules as active antennas.  Too bad no one 
built and certified a system of 8 or 10 ap's with very narrow sectors (how 
about 24db grids :-).  Did you guys know that we CAN use more than 4 watts 
at the AP's if the systems are designed right and are certified as such? 
WISPA got that interpretation of the rules done.I remember reading about this, 
but never managed to find out how narrow the beams would have to be.

  If 60-90 deg would work, there are MANY good ways to do it





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Re: [WISPA] U.S. Adults Choosing Internet Over Sex

[Marlon K. Schafer]

For most technogeeks I thought the internet WAS sex

roflol
marlon

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[WISPA] RedMax CRC errors resolved

[John McDowell]

I thought I would post this for those who are using RedMax gear. We've been
beating our heads trying to figure out why suddenly two sectors have gone
ballistic with CRC errors on the downlink. We replaced the cable on one and
were about to on the other until we found that if we rebooted one of the SUs
the CRC errors went away on the sector controller downlink. This made sense
as when we rebooted the Sector Controller the uplink CRC errors went away.
Evidently we had a couple of strange moments (high winds? tower work?) that
may have caused errors, and then the CRC errors were cached so that every
time we rebooted the SC, the uplink crc went away, but the downlink kept
showing back up.

Last night we rebooted all the SUs and so far our Downlink CRC errors have
zeroed out like they were to begin with.

Just thought I would save someone a headache in the future

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Re: [WISPA] OT Excel Help

[Scott Reed]

vlookup will do at least most of it.
For vlookup to work, you need to sort the list by he lookup value.

Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
> Use Excel Functions
>(lookup & reference)   VLOOKUP  will do what you are needing.
> 
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> Hello all I have 2 tables that have some velues in common (MAc Address), how
> can I have Excel compare both tables and output a TAble with the results
> showing matches of ESN's and other related table info?
>  
> thanks
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Re: [WISPA] OT Excel Help

[Gino Villarini]

Thanks, I'll check it out
 


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There is a free utility called ASAP Utilities that you can download that
has some cool tools in it that should do it.  Its freeware so it won't
hurt :-)

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> Address), how can I have Excel compare both tables and output a TAble 
> with the results showing matches of ESN's and other related table
info?
> 
> thanks
> 
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Re: [WISPA] Winter connectivity issues

[Marlon K. Schafer]

Try changing channels too.  Water *usually* give strange signal levels 
Looks more like interference to me.  Very possibly from some of your own 
towers???
marlon

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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Winter connectivity issues


> Water in connectors. When it freezes it crystalizes and gives a poor 
> connection. Maybe a cracked/broken antenna with moisture incursion.
>
> Antennas on towers are subject to falling ice regardless of the type of 
> antenna.
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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> -Original Message-
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> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:58:25
> To: ; 
> Subject: [WISPA] Winter connectivity issues
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> I have 4 tower locations, only one seems to be having issues. Last week,
> then today I have a few customers on one tower having slow connection
> issues. High ping times from less than 1 ms to 4-500ms with packet loss.
> The one complaining customer has a -56 @ client end and -60 @ AP. The
> common denominator is weather, it is currently about 10 deg F and we had
> some, not a lot of freezing rain last night.
>
> This tower is running a RB 433 w/ XR2 and HPol omni. New in spring due
> to lightning storm. The only time I experienced issues last year was
> with heavy icing.
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> Any thought? Would you think it's the ice or maybe freezing moisture in
> the enclosure?
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Re: [WISPA] OT Excel Help

[Faisal Imtiaz]

Use Excel Functions
   (lookup & reference)   VLOOKUP  will do what you are needing.

Regards 


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Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 8:32 AM
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Subject: [WISPA] OT Excel Help

Hello all I have 2 tables that have some velues in common (MAc Address), how
can I have Excel compare both tables and output a TAble with the results
showing matches of ESN's and other related table info?
 
thanks
 

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 
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Re: [WISPA] OT Excel Help

[3-dB Networks]

There is a free utility called ASAP Utilities that you can download that has
some cool tools in it that should do it.  Its freeware so it won't hurt :-)

Daniel White
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> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 6:32 AM
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> Subject: [WISPA] OT Excel Help
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> Hello all I have 2 tables that have some velues in common (MAc Address),
> how can I have Excel compare both tables and output a TAble with the
> results showing matches of ESN's and other related table info?
> 
> thanks
> 
> 
> Gino A. Villarini
> g...@aeronetpr.com
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
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[WISPA] OT Excel Help

[Gino Villarini]

Hello all I have 2 tables that have some velues in common (MAc Address),
how can I have Excel compare both tables and output a TAble with the
results showing matches of ESN's and other related table info?
 
thanks
 

Gino A. Villarini 
g...@aeronetpr.com 
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 
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