Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2009-01-02 Thread reader
that's extreme, Mike... But it's possible.I certainly hope not. But, if we're to use the only analogous event in American history as a yardstick... 50% of all mortgages defaulted in the Depression. Deflation cut prices by up to 75% in some markets / areas. Some "commodities" went up

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2009-01-02 Thread Chuck Bartosch
On Jan 1, 2009, at 8:06 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote: > Actually, Not sure the Government has the right to define "broadband". Any good contract defines for the purposes of the contract the terms that are used that don't have an obviously clear independent definition. The Government, if it's handin

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2009-01-02 Thread Chuck Bartosch
On Jan 2, 2009, at 12:13 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote: > What I'd like to see is a SBA Broadband Lease guarantee program, > that is easier to qualify for than traditional SBA guarantees, to > help open up lending to the WISP market. There is tons of money out > their, But its harder than said for

Re: [WISPA] Business strategy for an uncertain future...

2009-01-02 Thread Tom DeReggi
Well, I think the question is... how many subs will be successful in getting lower prices and actual delivery of the service? . If I gave in to every customer that blindly believed the random mailer they received in the mail, I'd discount prematurely. What I'm trying to do is when they call, to

Re: [WISPA] ptmp gear

2009-01-02 Thread Josh Luthman
Nope, just a 2.4 crossroads. Sorry. On 1/2/09, Dimitrios Sidiropoulos wrote: > Josh, > >>> > Are there FCC certificed cards to run at 5.2/5.4 with MT? > >>> Dennis - I already beat you to the punch. Don't steal my glory :) >>> >>> The crossroads is FCC certified. > > Is there a 5.2/5.4 crossroa

Re: [WISPA] ptmp gear

2009-01-02 Thread Dimitrios Sidiropoulos
Josh, >> > Are there FCC certificed cards to run at 5.2/5.4 with MT? >> Dennis - I already beat you to the punch. Don't steal my glory :) >> >> The crossroads is FCC certified. Is there a 5.2/5.4 crossroads ? I am only aware of the 2.4 one ! Thank you Dimitri >> On 12/31/08, Jerry Richardson

Re: [WISPA] Business strategy for an uncertain future...

2009-01-02 Thread George Rogato
Tom DeReggi wrote: > Customers that get the Verizon bundles > (voice/data under one low catch price bill) are exploring their options. > The calls I get are... "What term commmitment do we have for our > Broadband?". "We like you and your service, and don't want to change, but we > need to cu

Re: [WISPA] Business strategy for an uncertain future...

2009-01-02 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
There is a local auto parts store in town here that has a sign on the front door that states "We are NOT participating in this recession." I thought about how it would apply to a WISP and it shows the customer that our business is here for the long haul and not going anywhere which in turn is going

Re: [WISPA] Business strategy for an uncertain future...

2009-01-02 Thread Tom DeReggi
There is always the option for private lender. One way to find one is to ask your accountant / financial advisor. They likely will have a large number of wealthy clients, and advise on how they invest their money. At minimum inside knowledge of the ROI they are getting. This information will o

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2009-01-02 Thread Tom DeReggi
>The banker was not impressed that we owned all our >assets and told us to start financing EVERYTHING. Remember, banks make >money on loans and your ability to pay them. They don't make money on >assets. (Just like they don't want to hold thousands of foreclosed homes.) That is probably the bes

Re: [WISPA] Business strategy for an uncertain future...

2009-01-02 Thread Randy Cosby
Just curious what financing vehicles besides leasing wisps are using? Interest rates on credit lines (if you can get them) are quite reasonable right now. Any other options that are working for you? Randy Tom DeReggi wrote: > No... People think they need Internet access, as much as they need

Re: [WISPA] Business strategy for an uncertain future...

2009-01-02 Thread Tom DeReggi
No... People think they need Internet access, as much as they need electricity. I can tell you, in our county, the foreclosure rate is out the roof. When people are fighting to keep their homes, they learn that they can always check their Email at work, and they'd rather spend their money at h

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2009-01-02 Thread Matt Liotta
If you are a leasing company why bother to extend leases to unknown entities when your current customers are already profitable and continue to expand their relationship? If I was the leasing company that Travis used I would be much more interested in providing another 100k to Travis than 5

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2009-01-02 Thread Tom DeReggi
Travis, You are in a very fortunteately situation where you have reached a level, where you can prove your self credit worthy to their standards. I even had a conversation with some NY money guys last month, and they are in big trouble. They are desperately looking for deals. They have all this

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2009-01-02 Thread Tom DeReggi
> I think the introduction of the "bullet" has pretty much answered the cost The Bullet was truly a remarkable accomplishment. However, Policy should not limit technology choice and innovation. A bullet does a provider no good, that has decided on benefits of non-standardized polling technologie

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2009-01-02 Thread Mike Hammett
If what Mark is saying is correct, it doesn't matter how successful you are right now or how wildly your sales increase if deflation cuts everything but longer term debts down to just 10%. Net Profit being up 10.3% makes no difference if everything (but longer term debt) is slashed to 10% I ha

Re: [WISPA] Business strategy for an uncertain future...

2009-01-02 Thread Mike Hammett
My bank and others in my area have stated that business with them has only gotten better in the financial sector blowout. They weren't affiliated with any mega organization. Completely self contained. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2009-01-02 Thread Jeff Broadwick
Deflation, in the unlikely event that it could occur, will likely only be really bad in certain market segments. In our current case, it is commodities like gold, oil, copper, etc...of course they had a huge run-up over the last several years, so we are pretty much even with where we were when all

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2009-01-02 Thread Travis Johnson
More very good points that I had not considered. Thanks. Travis Microserv can...@believewireless.net wrote: Why worry about money not being available later if you can get it now? Borrow, borrow, borrow and borrow some more. If the markets dry up, we'll still have the leases and we can st

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2009-01-02 Thread can...@believewireless.net
Why worry about money not being available later if you can get it now? Borrow, borrow, borrow and borrow some more. If the markets dry up, we'll still have the leases and we can start paying cash for everything like everyone else. Our leasing is the same as what Travis described as far as rates a

Re: [WISPA] Business strategy for an uncertain future...

2009-01-02 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
George Rogato wrote: > If I was in the business of selling something frivilous, I would be > worried. > > This is internet access. People need Internet Access just like they need > electricity. You could live with out it but who would want to. > Unless you have hit the top of your saturation, t