Re: [WISPA] After hour call handling?

[Steve]

Digium board with Asterisk running on a SFF PC, (Actually Alix 1c
running ubuntu server on CF card)
This is a very robust option with call forwarding, tracking, voip
integration.  When the call comes in, it will track the person/s down
using a variety of methods from dialing  pbx extensions, phone numbers,
voip software (zoiper) on your computer, IM, and finally if you can't be
reached, will deliver a voice message to your email in the form of a wav
file.
We think it's great!
Steve

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Aaron D. Osgood wrote:
> How does everyone handle after hour calls for service? (Answering service? 
> Call forward to cell? Etc.)
> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with Nextel Direct Connect
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> -Original Message-
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Re: [WISPA] Riverbed

[Joseph J. Cracchiolo]

I have customers using that.  It's not a bad product and works fairly well.  
It's main flaw is that people expect it to mutate or bypass the laws of 
physics.  In other words, it will not make a 1, 2, 4 Mbps connection feel like 
a 100Mbps connection.  Most people I've talked with think that's exactly what 
it will do and they are disappointed when it cannot.  

-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 8:04 AM
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Subject: [WISPA] Riverbed

One of my customers is considering this system.



Has anyone here deployed it or have experience with it?

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Re: [WISPA] cellular RF

[Josh Luthman]

Mmm tasty tasty berries on them.  You should try it next time you're up there.

On 4/17/09, Kurt Fankhauser  wrote:
> " As long as you are not out in front, licking on the radomes,
> you will be just fine.  Behind and below are no problem."
>
> LOL
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> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Blake Bowers
> Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 4:36 PM
> To: ccoo...@intelliwave.com; WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] cellular RF
>
> As long as you are not out in front, licking on the radomes,
> you will be just fine.  Behind and below are no problem.
>
>
> Don't take your organs to heaven,
> heaven knows we need them down here!
> Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "chris cooper" 
> To: "'WISPA General List'" 
> Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 2:16 PM
> Subject: [WISPA] cellular RF
>
>
>> We are looking at co-lo on a structure that is also home to a cellular
>> array.  Tower owners say there is not enough RF power emitted from the
>> cell antennas to warrant turning them down to climb past them. Antennas
>> are on frames, so we would be climbing underneath and behind them on our
>> way through. Any reason to be concerned?  What is the eirp on a cell
>> antenna anyway?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] cellular RF

[Kurt Fankhauser]

" As long as you are not out in front, licking on the radomes,
you will be just fine.  Behind and below are no problem."

LOL



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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Blake Bowers
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 4:36 PM
To: ccoo...@intelliwave.com; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] cellular RF

As long as you are not out in front, licking on the radomes,
you will be just fine.  Behind and below are no problem.


Don't take your organs to heaven,
heaven knows we need them down here!
Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.

- Original Message - 
From: "chris cooper" 
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 2:16 PM
Subject: [WISPA] cellular RF


> We are looking at co-lo on a structure that is also home to a cellular
> array.  Tower owners say there is not enough RF power emitted from the
> cell antennas to warrant turning them down to climb past them. Antennas
> are on frames, so we would be climbing underneath and behind them on our
> way through. Any reason to be concerned?  What is the eirp on a cell
> antenna anyway?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Chris
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] cellular RF

[Blake Bowers]

As long as you are not out in front, licking on the radomes,
you will be just fine.  Behind and below are no problem.


Don't take your organs to heaven,
heaven knows we need them down here!
Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.

- Original Message - 
From: "chris cooper" 
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 2:16 PM
Subject: [WISPA] cellular RF


> We are looking at co-lo on a structure that is also home to a cellular
> array.  Tower owners say there is not enough RF power emitted from the
> cell antennas to warrant turning them down to climb past them. Antennas
> are on frames, so we would be climbing underneath and behind them on our
> way through. Any reason to be concerned?  What is the eirp on a cell
> antenna anyway?
>
>
>
> Thanks
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> Chris
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Re: [WISPA] cellular RF

[lakeland]

Behind and under you are OK.In front of a panel and they need ti shut that 
sector down

The tower guy is not well informed

Bob
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: "chris cooper" 

Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:16:46 
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: [WISPA] cellular RF


We are looking at co-lo on a structure that is also home to a cellular
array.  Tower owners say there is not enough RF power emitted from the
cell antennas to warrant turning them down to climb past them. Antennas
are on frames, so we would be climbing underneath and behind them on our
way through. Any reason to be concerned?  What is the eirp on a cell
antenna anyway?

 

Thanks

Chris




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Re: [WISPA] cellular RF

[Brian Webster]

Their EIRP would probably no higher than 40 watts or so. They do not run
very high power because they have full duplex links between the site and the
phone users. There is no advantage to transmitting high power if the low
power phone can not talk back to the site.



Thank You,
Brian Webster


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Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 3:17 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] cellular RF


We are looking at co-lo on a structure that is also home to a cellular
array.  Tower owners say there is not enough RF power emitted from the
cell antennas to warrant turning them down to climb past them. Antennas
are on frames, so we would be climbing underneath and behind them on our
way through. Any reason to be concerned?  What is the eirp on a cell
antenna anyway?



Thanks

Chris





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Re: [WISPA] cellular RF

[Josh Luthman]

We are on a tower with AT&T (pretty sure it's 3g) at the top with us mid
way.  Never had any complaints.

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On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 3:16 PM, chris cooper wrote:

> We are looking at co-lo on a structure that is also home to a cellular
> array.  Tower owners say there is not enough RF power emitted from the
> cell antennas to warrant turning them down to climb past them. Antennas
> are on frames, so we would be climbing underneath and behind them on our
> way through. Any reason to be concerned?  What is the eirp on a cell
> antenna anyway?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Chris
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[WISPA] cellular RF

[chris cooper]

We are looking at co-lo on a structure that is also home to a cellular
array.  Tower owners say there is not enough RF power emitted from the
cell antennas to warrant turning them down to climb past them. Antennas
are on frames, so we would be climbing underneath and behind them on our
way through. Any reason to be concerned?  What is the eirp on a cell
antenna anyway?

 

Thanks

Chris




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Re: [WISPA] Workorders and install / Repair scheduling

[Mark Nash]

PowerCode.  Has billing & bandwidth management/bandwidth usage tracking as 
well.

Mark Nash
UnwiredWest
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Suite E
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- Original Message - 
From: "Ryan Ghering" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 8:35 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Workorders and install / Repair scheduling


> Just curious whats everyone using for workorders and scheduling?
>
> I've got a home grown solution I made a few years back that I intergrated
> google calendars into
> however we aren't happy with it and am looking into a new system.
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Re: [WISPA] Workorders and install / Repair scheduling

[Christopher Hair]

We use Tigerpaw CRM. A little pricey but it has a dispatch board for
scheduling installs and service calls. Also allows us to track inventory for
our customers and tower locations.

Tigerpawsoftware.com

Chris

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 12:30 PM
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> Just curious whats everyone using for workorders and scheduling?
>
> I've got a home grown solution I made a few years back that I intergrated
> google calendars into
> however we aren't happy with it and am looking into a new system.
>
> Ryan


Custom written PHP/MySQL system.  Does installs, trouble tickets etc.
Best bet to hire a PHP/MySQL coder.

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Re: [WISPA] After hour call handling?

[Blair Davis]

Yep.  Tell them that they have a major computer problem and that they
need to box it up and return it to the seller

Kurt Fankhauser wrote:

  Ever have someone call you up and ask a question like this:

 "Hey my friend just sent me an email and I'm gonna print it out but my ink
is low, does it use my friends ink or mine?"

Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
 
 
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Eric Rogers
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 1:01 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] After hour call handling?

I made that mistake... The straw that broke the camel's back was when I
got a call at 11:30 PM on Sunday that "I am having problems getting my
Xbox to work.  It says I need a key."  I realized at that point, as I
was waking from my slumber, that it was not a good idea.  I don't
remember my response, but I am sure I wasn't as nice as I would have
been normally...

We use Asterisk and during business hours, we answer calls as much as we
can.  After hours, unless they are paying business rates, it says on our
menu if they are a residence calling for support, press X and you can
leave a message.  If you are a business or a residential customer in
need of immediate support, press Y.  If they press Y, the first
announcement says Note:  for all residential customers calling for after
hours support, there will be a $75 charge for each hour on their next
bill.

It gives the customers that "HAVE TO HAVE IT NOW!!!" the ability to get
support, especially for that executive that has to have a report done at
3:00 AM for the financial meeting he will be attending and he can't
figure out his email settings on a work laptop that has never been home
to setup.  We can now justify paying off-hour rates to my techs.

Eric Rogers
Precision Data Solutions, LLC
(317) 831-3000 x200


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 11:52 PM
To: aosg...@streamline-solutions.net; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] After hour call handling?

My cell number is on every answering machine.  I tell people that if
it's 
urgent they can call.

One of these days I'll have another tech and we'll take turns on
"stand-by".

The best solution I've found though?  GOOD gear!  It's amazing what
happens 
to the after hours call when you get top notch gear installed.

marlon

- Original Message - 
From: "Aaron D. Osgood" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 6:42 PM
Subject: [WISPA] After hour call handling?


How does everyone handle after hour calls for service? (Answering
service? 
Call forward to cell? Etc.)
Sent from my BlackBerry(r) smartphone with Nextel Direct Connect

-Original Message-
From: Brian Rohrbacher 

Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 21:31:25
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll






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Re: [WISPA] After hour call handling?

[Kurt Fankhauser]

Ever have someone call you up and ask a question like this:

 "Hey my friend just sent me an email and I'm gonna print it out but my ink
is low, does it use my friends ink or mine?"

Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
 
 
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Eric Rogers
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 1:01 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] After hour call handling?

I made that mistake... The straw that broke the camel's back was when I
got a call at 11:30 PM on Sunday that "I am having problems getting my
Xbox to work.  It says I need a key."  I realized at that point, as I
was waking from my slumber, that it was not a good idea.  I don't
remember my response, but I am sure I wasn't as nice as I would have
been normally...

We use Asterisk and during business hours, we answer calls as much as we
can.  After hours, unless they are paying business rates, it says on our
menu if they are a residence calling for support, press X and you can
leave a message.  If you are a business or a residential customer in
need of immediate support, press Y.  If they press Y, the first
announcement says Note:  for all residential customers calling for after
hours support, there will be a $75 charge for each hour on their next
bill.

It gives the customers that "HAVE TO HAVE IT NOW!!!" the ability to get
support, especially for that executive that has to have a report done at
3:00 AM for the financial meeting he will be attending and he can't
figure out his email settings on a work laptop that has never been home
to setup.  We can now justify paying off-hour rates to my techs.

Eric Rogers
Precision Data Solutions, LLC
(317) 831-3000 x200


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 11:52 PM
To: aosg...@streamline-solutions.net; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] After hour call handling?

My cell number is on every answering machine.  I tell people that if
it's 
urgent they can call.

One of these days I'll have another tech and we'll take turns on
"stand-by".

The best solution I've found though?  GOOD gear!  It's amazing what
happens 
to the after hours call when you get top notch gear installed.

marlon

- Original Message - 
From: "Aaron D. Osgood" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 6:42 PM
Subject: [WISPA] After hour call handling?


How does everyone handle after hour calls for service? (Answering
service? 
Call forward to cell? Etc.)
Sent from my BlackBerry(r) smartphone with Nextel Direct Connect

-Original Message-
From: Brian Rohrbacher 

Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 21:31:25
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll






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Re: [WISPA] Workorders and install / Repair scheduling

[Eric Rogers]

OneOrZero

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Ryan Ghering
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 11:35 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Workorders and install / Repair scheduling

Just curious whats everyone using for workorders and scheduling?

I've got a home grown solution I made a few years back that I
intergrated
google calendars into
however we aren't happy with it and am looking into a new system.

Ryan




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Re: [WISPA] After hour call handling?

[Eric Rogers]

I made that mistake... The straw that broke the camel's back was when I
got a call at 11:30 PM on Sunday that "I am having problems getting my
Xbox to work.  It says I need a key."  I realized at that point, as I
was waking from my slumber, that it was not a good idea.  I don't
remember my response, but I am sure I wasn't as nice as I would have
been normally...

We use Asterisk and during business hours, we answer calls as much as we
can.  After hours, unless they are paying business rates, it says on our
menu if they are a residence calling for support, press X and you can
leave a message.  If you are a business or a residential customer in
need of immediate support, press Y.  If they press Y, the first
announcement says Note:  for all residential customers calling for after
hours support, there will be a $75 charge for each hour on their next
bill.

It gives the customers that "HAVE TO HAVE IT NOW!!!" the ability to get
support, especially for that executive that has to have a report done at
3:00 AM for the financial meeting he will be attending and he can't
figure out his email settings on a work laptop that has never been home
to setup.  We can now justify paying off-hour rates to my techs.

Eric Rogers
Precision Data Solutions, LLC
(317) 831-3000 x200


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 11:52 PM
To: aosg...@streamline-solutions.net; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] After hour call handling?

My cell number is on every answering machine.  I tell people that if
it's 
urgent they can call.

One of these days I'll have another tech and we'll take turns on
"stand-by".

The best solution I've found though?  GOOD gear!  It's amazing what
happens 
to the after hours call when you get top notch gear installed.

marlon

- Original Message - 
From: "Aaron D. Osgood" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 6:42 PM
Subject: [WISPA] After hour call handling?


How does everyone handle after hour calls for service? (Answering
service? 
Call forward to cell? Etc.)
Sent from my BlackBerry(r) smartphone with Nextel Direct Connect

-Original Message-
From: Brian Rohrbacher 

Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 21:31:25
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll






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Re: [WISPA] After hour call handling?

[Josh Luthman]

Because you use good equipment and did it well I am sure :)

On 4/17/09, Ryan Ghering  wrote:
> Actually I get very few calls in the evenings..
>
> Ryan
>
> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Josh Luthman
> wrote:
>
>> My innernet don't work so ur twer down...
>>
>> I would imagine they'd call if their Internet access didn't work and press
>> 6, as the customer would haven't no idea where the problem is.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
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>> Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
>> --- Henry Spencer
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Ryan Ghering  wrote:
>>
>> > As our internal phone system is voip with a asterisk PBX I simply setup
>> > a
>> > time condition after hours for them to either leave a message or press 6
>> if
>> > they believe a tower is down, or its an emergency to forward the call to
>> my
>> > cell.
>> >
>> > Ryan
>> >
>> > On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 7:42 PM, Aaron D. Osgood <
>> > aosg...@streamline-solutions.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > > How does everyone handle after hour calls for service? (Answering
>> > service?
>> > > Call forward to cell? Etc.)
>> > > Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with Nextel Direct Connect
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Re: [WISPA] Insurance on equipment

[Scottie Arnett]

Typical "legal organized crime" insurance companies. As long as you are paying 
them and not filing a claim, everything is happy go lucky. File one claim and 
they want to jack your rates through the roof or cancel your policy. How do 
they get away with this stuff? I have 1st hand experience with it. I can't 
believe all are like that, but all I have ever dealt with are. If anyone knows 
of a "professional" insurance company that provides what they say without the 
"crap mentioned above", please let me know.

Scott

-- Original Message --
From: Josh Luthman 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date:  Thu, 16 Apr 2009 18:13:02 -0400

>What I have heard from other WISPs is that once you do a big claim they
>cancel your policy.  I've heard it from multiple angels from multiple
>companies so I've always believed it to be true.
>
>Josh Luthman
>Office: 937-552-2340
>Direct: 937-552-2343
>1100 Wayne St
>Suite 1337
>Troy, OH 45373
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>Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
>--- Henry Spencer
>
>
>On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Charles Wyble wrote:
>
>> Why would one find another insurer?
>>
>> I do believe they can do a search on claims you have filed and charge
>> accordingly. So changing insurers most likely won't help.
>>
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman wrote:
>> > What we do and what I've been suggested is hold onto an insurance policy
>> and
>> > use it when you really have to.  If an AP or two and some CPEs go bad,
>> don't
>> > claim it as it your rates will rise or the policy may be canceled.
>> >
>> > If you lost an entire tower and hundreds of thousands of dollars (or
>> > whatever size completely kicks your bucket) then claim it and prepare to
>> > find another insurer.
>> >
>> > Josh Luthman
>> > Office: 937-552-2340
>> > Direct: 937-552-2343
>> > 1100 Wayne St
>> > Suite 1337
>> > Troy, OH 45373
>> >
>> > Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
>> > --- Henry Spencer
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Alan Long 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> All gear.
>> >>
>> >> 
>> >> Aerowire
>> >> Alan Long
>> >> Director of Network Operations
>> >> alan.l...@aerowire.net
>> >> 687 North Dean Road
>> >> Auburn, AL 36830
>> >> tel: 3342759998
>> >> mobile: 336092
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>> >> -Original Message-
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>> >> Behalf Of Charles Wyble
>> >> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 4:30 PM
>> >> To: WISPA General List
>> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance on equipment
>> >>
>> >> I'm guessing you mean AP gear and not CPE? Or do you mean CPE as well?
>> >>
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Re: [WISPA] tranzeo 900mhz ?

[Randy Cosby]

I think the first revsion Tranzeo 900 mhz radios used that card.  They 
are incompatible with the newer radios, and never worked well to start with.


Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:
> I have verified that they do not.
>
> Matt Larsen
> vistabeam.com
>
> Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
>   
>> Has anyone verified if the Z-com 900mhz card works with the Tranzeo? 
>> http://www.streakwave.com/Itemdesc.asp?ic=11%2D401&eq=&Tp=
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>> WAVELINC
>> P.O. Box 126
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>> 419-562-6405
>> www.wavelinc.com
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>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists
>> Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 10:35 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] tranzeo 900mhz ?
>>
>> Unfortunately, that will not work.   I have been trying to get Tranzeos 
>> to work with StarOS (and Mikrotik) for a while and have not been able to 
>> make it happen.   I have even taken the Tranzeos apart and put the cards 
>> into the other radios and did not get it to work.
>>
>> I did take the cards out of a couple of dead Tranzeo 900 radios (blown 
>> ethernet port), put one in a StarOS AP, and the second into a WAR1 and 
>> put it back in the Tranzeo case and that worked out pretty well.If 
>> either StarOS or Mikrotik would come up with a way to tune into the 
>> correct center frequency, I think you could get them to work, but I have 
>> not had any luck so far. 
>>
>> Next step is I'm trying out one of the new EL900 APs from Tranzeo to see 
>> if it will do what I want to do.   If I could just get them to do radius 
>> authentication, I would be happy.
>>
>> Matt Larsen
>> vistabeam.com
>>
>> D. Ryan Spott wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> They use different center frequencies so no, they do not interoperate.
>>> 
>>>   
>> However, I believe you can rip a card (and its amp/converter? Out of a
>> Tranzeo and put it into 'tik.
>>   
>> 
>>> ryan
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Kurt Fankhauser 
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 10:03 PM
>>> To: 'WISPA General List' 
>>> Subject: [WISPA] tranzeo 900mhz ?
>>>
>>> Does the Tranzeo Slim-line 900mhz series only work with a Tranzeo AP? Or
>>> 
>>>   
>> can
>>   
>> 
>>> I use a XR9 in Mikrotik?
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Kurt Fankhauser
>>> WAVELINC
>>> P.O. Box 126
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Re: [WISPA] tranzeo 900mhz ?

[Matt Larsen - Lists]

I have verified that they do not.

Matt Larsen
vistabeam.com

Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
> Has anyone verified if the Z-com 900mhz card works with the Tranzeo? 
> http://www.streakwave.com/Itemdesc.asp?ic=11%2D401&eq=&Tp=
>
>
> Kurt Fankhauser
> WAVELINC
> P.O. Box 126
> Bucyrus, OH 44820
> 419-562-6405
> www.wavelinc.com
>  
>  
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists
> Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 10:35 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] tranzeo 900mhz ?
>
> Unfortunately, that will not work.   I have been trying to get Tranzeos 
> to work with StarOS (and Mikrotik) for a while and have not been able to 
> make it happen.   I have even taken the Tranzeos apart and put the cards 
> into the other radios and did not get it to work.
>
> I did take the cards out of a couple of dead Tranzeo 900 radios (blown 
> ethernet port), put one in a StarOS AP, and the second into a WAR1 and 
> put it back in the Tranzeo case and that worked out pretty well.If 
> either StarOS or Mikrotik would come up with a way to tune into the 
> correct center frequency, I think you could get them to work, but I have 
> not had any luck so far. 
>
> Next step is I'm trying out one of the new EL900 APs from Tranzeo to see 
> if it will do what I want to do.   If I could just get them to do radius 
> authentication, I would be happy.
>
> Matt Larsen
> vistabeam.com
>
> D. Ryan Spott wrote:
>   
>> They use different center frequencies so no, they do not interoperate.
>> 
> However, I believe you can rip a card (and its amp/converter? Out of a
> Tranzeo and put it into 'tik.
>   
>> ryan
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Kurt Fankhauser 
>> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 10:03 PM
>> To: 'WISPA General List' 
>> Subject: [WISPA] tranzeo 900mhz ?
>>
>> Does the Tranzeo Slim-line 900mhz series only work with a Tranzeo AP? Or
>> 
> can
>   
>> I use a XR9 in Mikrotik?
>>
>>  
>>
>> Kurt Fankhauser
>> WAVELINC
>> P.O. Box 126
>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>> 419-562-6405
>> www.wavelinc.com
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Re: [WISPA] Workorders and install / Repair scheduling

[Matt]

> Just curious whats everyone using for workorders and scheduling?
>
> I've got a home grown solution I made a few years back that I intergrated
> google calendars into
> however we aren't happy with it and am looking into a new system.
>
> Ryan


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Re: [WISPA] After hour call handling?

[Ryan Ghering]

Actually I get very few calls in the evenings..

Ryan

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Josh Luthman
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> My innernet don't work so ur twer down...
>
> I would imagine they'd call if their Internet access didn't work and press
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> > time condition after hours for them to either leave a message or press 6
> if
> > they believe a tower is down, or its an emergency to forward the call to
> my
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> > On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 7:42 PM, Aaron D. Osgood <
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> > > How does everyone handle after hour calls for service? (Answering
> > service?
> > > Call forward to cell? Etc.)
> > > Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with Nextel Direct Connect
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> > > -Original Message-
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Re: [WISPA] After hour call handling?

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My innernet don't work so ur twer down...

I would imagine they'd call if their Internet access didn't work and press
6, as the customer would haven't no idea where the problem is.

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On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Ryan Ghering  wrote:

> As our internal phone system is voip with a asterisk PBX I simply setup a
> time condition after hours for them to either leave a message or press 6 if
> they believe a tower is down, or its an emergency to forward the call to my
> cell.
>
> Ryan
>
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 7:42 PM, Aaron D. Osgood <
> aosg...@streamline-solutions.net> wrote:
>
> > How does everyone handle after hour calls for service? (Answering
> service?
> > Call forward to cell? Etc.)
> > Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with Nextel Direct Connect
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Brian Rohrbacher 
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> > Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 21:31:25
> > To: WISPA General List
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Re: [WISPA] Workorders and install / Repair scheduling

[Jason Hensley]

Wombat with Platypus. 


-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Ryan Ghering
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 10:35 AM
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Subject: [WISPA] Workorders and install / Repair scheduling

Just curious whats everyone using for workorders and scheduling?

I've got a home grown solution I made a few years back that I intergrated
google calendars into
however we aren't happy with it and am looking into a new system.

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Re: [WISPA] After hour call handling?

[Ryan Ghering]

As our internal phone system is voip with a asterisk PBX I simply setup a
time condition after hours for them to either leave a message or press 6 if
they believe a tower is down, or its an emergency to forward the call to my
cell.

Ryan

On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 7:42 PM, Aaron D. Osgood <
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> How does everyone handle after hour calls for service? (Answering service?
> Call forward to cell? Etc.)
> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with Nextel Direct Connect
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[WISPA] Workorders and install / Repair scheduling

[Ryan Ghering]

Just curious whats everyone using for workorders and scheduling?

I've got a home grown solution I made a few years back that I intergrated
google calendars into
however we aren't happy with it and am looking into a new system.

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Re: [WISPA] Promotion

[Scottie Arnett]

Do you have a website or something that shows where your towers are located?

Scott

-- Original Message --
From: "Cliff Olle" 
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Date:  Thu, 16 Apr 2009 09:08:28 -0500

>I would think that could easily be done with a mikrotik
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>Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 9:05 AM
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>Subject: [WISPA] Promotion
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>I got towers.  Lots of them.  Many don't have any kind
>of wireless service anywhere close, some don't have any
>kind of high speed service of any kind.
>
>I would like to put up on some of them, for a fairly short
>period of time, something like a hotspot, say a cheap router
>that people can connect to, they see a splash page that says
>
>"If you are intersted in HIGH SPEED WIRELESS service, please
>call 800-467-2346"
>
>Then we could log the calls, take their information, and if enough 
>calls were recieved we could start talking to WISPS in adjoining
>areas to see if someone might be interested in providing service
>there.
>
>A market study if you will.
>
>Who makes a cheap box that I could hook to an OMNI with
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Re: [WISPA] tranzeo 900mhz ?

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Has anyone verified if the Z-com 900mhz card works with the Tranzeo? 
http://www.streakwave.com/Itemdesc.asp?ic=11%2D401&eq=&Tp=


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Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 10:35 AM
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Unfortunately, that will not work.   I have been trying to get Tranzeos 
to work with StarOS (and Mikrotik) for a while and have not been able to 
make it happen.   I have even taken the Tranzeos apart and put the cards 
into the other radios and did not get it to work.

I did take the cards out of a couple of dead Tranzeo 900 radios (blown 
ethernet port), put one in a StarOS AP, and the second into a WAR1 and 
put it back in the Tranzeo case and that worked out pretty well.If 
either StarOS or Mikrotik would come up with a way to tune into the 
correct center frequency, I think you could get them to work, but I have 
not had any luck so far. 

Next step is I'm trying out one of the new EL900 APs from Tranzeo to see 
if it will do what I want to do.   If I could just get them to do radius 
authentication, I would be happy.

Matt Larsen
vistabeam.com

D. Ryan Spott wrote:
> They use different center frequencies so no, they do not interoperate.
However, I believe you can rip a card (and its amp/converter? Out of a
Tranzeo and put it into 'tik.
>
> ryan
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> Subject: [WISPA] tranzeo 900mhz ?
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> Does the Tranzeo Slim-line 900mhz series only work with a Tranzeo AP? Or
can
> I use a XR9 in Mikrotik?
>
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Re: [WISPA] After hour call handling?

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These guys have been outstanding for us:

http://kitsupport.com/

We forward our tech support calls to them between 5pm-8am and they have 
done a great job.   All calls that they receive come back into our 
Freeside system as a work ticket with all the details on the calls they 
have taken and our techs jump on the ones that KIT can't resolve over 
the phone right away in the morning.   They will also call us if they 
get a bunch of calls from the same place with outage issues.

I believe the minimum monthly charge is $350/month, and that includes up 
to 70 support calls.   In a year, I don't think we've gone over that 
number of calls more than once or twice.   One of the best investments 
I've ever made.

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Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
> Good gear that's installed properly too. :)
>
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> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 11:52 PM
> To: aosg...@streamline-solutions.net; WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] After hour call handling?
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> My cell number is on every answering machine.  I tell people that if it's 
> urgent they can call.
>
> One of these days I'll have another tech and we'll take turns on "stand-by".
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> The best solution I've found though?  GOOD gear!  It's amazing what happens 
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> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 6:42 PM
> Subject: [WISPA] After hour call handling?
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> How does everyone handle after hour calls for service? (Answering service? 
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> Sent from my BlackBerryR smartphone with Nextel Direct Connect
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Re: [WISPA] tranzeo 900mhz ?

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Unfortunately, that will not work.   I have been trying to get Tranzeos 
to work with StarOS (and Mikrotik) for a while and have not been able to 
make it happen.   I have even taken the Tranzeos apart and put the cards 
into the other radios and did not get it to work.

I did take the cards out of a couple of dead Tranzeo 900 radios (blown 
ethernet port), put one in a StarOS AP, and the second into a WAR1 and 
put it back in the Tranzeo case and that worked out pretty well.If 
either StarOS or Mikrotik would come up with a way to tune into the 
correct center frequency, I think you could get them to work, but I have 
not had any luck so far. 

Next step is I'm trying out one of the new EL900 APs from Tranzeo to see 
if it will do what I want to do.   If I could just get them to do radius 
authentication, I would be happy.

Matt Larsen
vistabeam.com

D. Ryan Spott wrote:
> They use different center frequencies so no, they do not interoperate. 
> However, I believe you can rip a card (and its amp/converter? Out of a 
> Tranzeo and put it into 'tik.
>
> ryan
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> -Original Message-
> From: Kurt Fankhauser 
> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 10:03 PM
> To: 'WISPA General List' 
> Subject: [WISPA] tranzeo 900mhz ?
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> Does the Tranzeo Slim-line 900mhz series only work with a Tranzeo AP? Or can
> I use a XR9 in Mikrotik?
>
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Re: [WISPA] After hour call handling?

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Good gear that's installed properly too. :)

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Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 11:52 PM
To: aosg...@streamline-solutions.net; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] After hour call handling?

My cell number is on every answering machine.  I tell people that if it's 
urgent they can call.

One of these days I'll have another tech and we'll take turns on "stand-by".

The best solution I've found though?  GOOD gear!  It's amazing what happens 
to the after hours call when you get top notch gear installed.

marlon

- Original Message - 
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To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 6:42 PM
Subject: [WISPA] After hour call handling?


How does everyone handle after hour calls for service? (Answering service? 
Call forward to cell? Etc.)
Sent from my BlackBerryR smartphone with Nextel Direct Connect

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Re: [WISPA] tranzeo 900mhz ?

[D. Ryan Spott]

They use different center frequencies so no, they do not interoperate. However, 
I believe you can rip a card (and its amp/converter? Out of a Tranzeo and put 
it into 'tik.

ryan

-Original Message-
From: Kurt Fankhauser 
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 10:03 PM
To: 'WISPA General List' 
Subject: [WISPA] tranzeo 900mhz ?

Does the Tranzeo Slim-line 900mhz series only work with a Tranzeo AP? Or can
I use a XR9 in Mikrotik?

 

Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
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Re: [WISPA] tranzeo 900mhz ?

[Tom DeReggi]

Lets expand the questions.

Which name brand or OEM pre-made 900Mhz radio systems ship with XR9s? 
(and/or SR9s)

It seems to me that a lot of the vendors are using the ZCOM card because of 
the lower price, so hard finding FCC cert  900 units with the Ubiquiti.
My understanding is that Teletronics, Ligowave, Tranzeo all use alternate 
brands such as ZCOM?


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: "Josh Luthman" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 1:09 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] tranzeo 900mhz ?


> Xr9 works with:
> Xr9
>
> Sr9 works with:
> Sr9
>
> Or so I read.
>
> On 4/17/09, Kurt Fankhauser  wrote:
>> Does the Tranzeo Slim-line 900mhz series only work with a Tranzeo AP? Or 
>> can
>> I use a XR9 in Mikrotik?
>>
>>
>>
>> Kurt Fankhauser
>> WAVELINC
>> P.O. Box 126
>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>> 419-562-6405
>> www.wavelinc.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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