Thanks for sharing all the info you have on this subject... I appreciate
your time.
Scott Carullo
Brevard Wireless
321-205-1100 x102
Original Message
From: e...@wisp-router.com e...@wisp-router.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 1:04 AM
To: WISPA General List
Well I have 1 Main Router with 2 peers on the same Eth port, I receive
routes from 1, but not from the 2nd. Im using the same area for both,
different networks (2 /30)
All are Mt 3.23 with routing test, the only difference is that the 2
exchanging routes are rb1000, the other one is a x86
Does the x86 exchange with the non-main router?
If it can route to it, they should exchange. If it doesn't, check all
the settings on the x86 again. Area number is good. Router number is
unique. Authentication is correct. Any of those can make it not work.
You could turn on OSPF in logging
https://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#four222
You have to utilize the assignment in 3 months.
You have to currently be using 2x /24s.
You have to return your old IPs to your provider.
Some other stuff available on their web site.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
I think that what Dennis was trying to say is. You have to be a Mikrotik
Distributor, and follow their documentation to be able to use their lab
testing certification. Distributors are effectively MT agents using their
already completed certification testing. Anyone can take some parts and
have
Butch Evans wrote:
It has been about 5 years since I've dealt with them at all, and I know
there is likely to have been some changes in the way they handle their
business. As I understand it, you can get as small as a /22 from them
if you are multi-homed. Are there other requirements that I
You must be multihomed first - they request both upstream peers and need to
see your advertisements on the net in BGP table My experience any
way.
Scott Carullo
Brevard Wireless
321-205-1100 x102
Original Message
From: David E. Smith d...@mvn.net
Sent: Tuesday, May
Recently I saw these comments made on Twitter and I was wondering if anyone
could track down some quotable sources for these.
Rep Zoe Lofgren (D-CA) says that historically a $1 investment in broadband
yields a $10 return. So a $7.2B investment...
NTIA's Larry Irving wants to see USF funds
Can we clarify what a distributor is, and what a reseller is as far
as Mikrotik is concerned for this program? Can a wisp (are they
resellers?) get permission from Mikrotik to certify a kit? Where can we
find out more on this? Are there distributors who will do on behalf of
a wisp?
Randy
I belive you must purchase hardware directly from MT to be a distributor.
* ---
Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/
Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support
Just found this - made me happy =)
AN50
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Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
You have to buy your product directly from Mikrotik, and the minimum order
is 10,000/month
Thanks
Mike
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com wrote:
Can we clarify what a distributor is, and what a reseller is as far
as Mikrotik is concerned for this program? Can
Randy,
Dumb question If you are a wisp what would be the motivation to
certify a kit?
Its been clearly stated that you can take the RB, a radio card and stick it
in an enclosure and use it to your hearts content legally per FCC / UL
rules. Why would anyone do anything other than just
Thanks Scott. I'd like to see this all clarified as well. Guess I must
have read things differently than you and was not as certain that the
answers were definitive.
Randy
Scott Carullo wrote:
Randy,
Dumb question If you are a wisp what would be the motivation to
certify a kit?
Scott, Thats not the case, you have to have the Mikrotik FCC Sticker etc..
To your questions.
1. Nope
2. Nope.
* ---
Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/
Link
What about the R52 cards?
Matt
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 11:00 AM, e...@wisp-router.com wrote:
Keep in mind that this is not necessary true depending what chip set the
card is using. For example the SR2 cards will always listen to 20Mhz even if
they only transmit on 10MHz or even 5MHz. While
Eje Gustafsson says this is not the case or elsewhen I buy a minipci
wireless card for my laptop it would be illegal...
You guys please come to conclusion so we can move to #2
Scott Carullo
Brevard Wireless
321-205-1100 x102
Original Message
From: Dennis Burgess - Linktechs
I read the rules a few years ago because of the laptop question. My
understanding is:
if the SBC is Part B compliant
if the radio board is certified with the antenna
it is OK.
Which, I believe, is what Eje said.
Scott Carullo wrote:
Eje Gustafsson says this is not the case or elsewhen
On May 12, 2009, at 1:25 PM, Scott Carullo wrote:
Eje Gustafsson says this is not the case or elsewhen I buy a minipci
wireless card for my laptop it would be illegal...
This has been discussed at length. No matter how many times someone
makes the laptop argument it doesn't change the fact
On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 13:02 -0400, Scott Carullo wrote:
Its been clearly stated that you can take the RB, a radio card and stick it
in an enclosure and use it to your hearts content legally per FCC / UL
rules.
The trouble with that approach is that it isn't legal. In order to be
legal, it
If that's true then it's illegal for me to buy a RB411, a XR5, an
enclosure and put it together myself? If that's true why do they sell
all that stuff without disclaimers? Am I supposed to put this stuff
together and then go through a certification process?
Greg
On May 12, 2009, at 1:12 PM,
I've been told personally by an FCC testing lab that I can take a XR5 which
has been tested with say a 23db panel antenna (with FCC) and use the same
gain antenna or less for myself and would not have to have it certified
again... They told me not to get it tested because I didn't need to
On May 12, 2009, at 2:24 PM, Scott Carullo wrote:
I've been told personally by an FCC testing lab that I can take a
XR5 which
has been tested with say a 23db panel antenna (with FCC) and use the
same
gain antenna or less for myself and would not have to have it
certified
again...
Maybe this will clear things up (or muddy the waters)
I am looking at the bottom of my EEEPC which has a FCC ID: PPD-AR5BXB63
(Atheros 802.11B/G) which refers to:
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/ViewExhibitReport.cfm?mode=E
This been debated in circles many times with many people with seemingly
valid parts on both side.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 12,
The Contains FCC ID: PPD-AR5BXB63 means that the laptop contains a
certified module. EEEPC or whoever the manufacturer is, still had to
get a Declaration of Conformity covering the laptop, module, likely
peripherals, and AC adapter. What they didn't have to do is get a new
full certification for
Only the manufacturer listed on the certificate can make that decision. The
rules states that antenna of similar type in same or lower gain is certified
but it's only the manufacturer that can make that decision what is
considered similar type and there for approved to use with the unit.
This is
Now that makes sense
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Jerry Richardson
airCloud Communications
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Harold Bledsoe
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 12:30 PM
To: WISPA General List
My view is that once certified with a specific antenna then a system is
legal with any antenna of similar type (panel, yagi, etc.) of equal of
lesser gain. Anybody can make the decision to substitute a similar type
but lower gain antenna. I ran this by the FCC last year and they
confirmed it.
Ok... so back to original dilemma...
I take a XR5, the precise antenna they certified with this radio card, a
RB411 and hook it all up and use it myself within FCC RF guidelines.
Criminal or law abiding citizen...
Scott Carullo
Brevard Wireless
321-205-1100 x102
Original Message
All depends on who the FCC had deputized, it sounds like :)
Randy
Scott Carullo wrote:
Ok... so back to original dilemma...
I take a XR5, the precise antenna they certified with this radio card, a
RB411 and hook it all up and use it myself within FCC RF guidelines.
Criminal or law
As far as I know, you must have a FCC sticker to be in compliance. Does
your home brew unit have a sticker?
Thanks
Mike
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.comwrote:
Ok... so back to original dilemma...
I take a XR5, the precise antenna they certified
Lets not forget the rules may not be the same depending on what type
certification one is looking for.
If Mikrotik got a part B certification for the hardware board, and MT makes
the hardware board, its irrelevent where an end user buys the board,
Mikrotik is responsible for the certification
On May 12, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Scott Carullo wrote:
Ok... so back to original dilemma...
I take a XR5, the precise antenna they certified with this radio
card, a
RB411 and hook it all up and use it myself within FCC RF guidelines.
Criminal or law abiding citizen...
Neither, but you
Subject changed to help with filters. :)
Do you have both /30's in the networks tab? Look at the Neighbors tab, do
you see the second router listed there? If so add the Adjacency and State
columns to your view, what state does it say it's in?
-Kevin
-Original Message-
From:
Butch,
Arin is really easy to deal with if you stay focused to following their
guidelines. If you divert from the guidelines in the slightest, it can be
difficult, because their reps are only authorized to pass through
submissions that meet the rules and can be justified as complying. Its
So he is suggesting that existing broadband consumers foot the $7billion
bill via USF broadband taxes? I'd like to see what that fee calculates to.
I bet the USF tax will be higher than the cost of broadband service.
Clearly not in line with reducing costs of broadband for consumers. Does
Isn't the federal usf already 11.2 percent?
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 4:28 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] As seen on Twitter
So he is suggesting that
At the WCA Wireless Policy Conference last week Amy Levine Legislative
Counsel for the House Telecom Committee from Congressman Rick Boucher's
office indicated that there will be a push to use the roughly $7.2B in
unspent USF funds to fund BB service delivery in rural America -- the
committee
Well that is a totally different thing, using unspent USF monies for
broadband.
That would be great idea if. Any broadband provider would qualify for
teh USF funds.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
- Original Message -
From: Kevin Suitor
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