Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Mike Hammett
Sorry, catching up on today's NCIS reruns. Northern Illinois. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Josh Luthman" Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 1:14 AM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WI

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Josh Luthman
I actually asked where - not what - but I was under the impression you meant trees =P Delorm was pretty good - costly but you can keep the maps locally IIRC. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, t

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Mike Hammett
Corn and soybeans. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Josh Luthman" Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 12:32 AM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software > That's a lot

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Blair Davis
It may sound stupid, but I use Delorm Topo 4 Plot your endpoints, draw a line and look at the trerrian profile. Add the antenna heights and you should have a real good idea if it will work or not. I played with Radio Mobile for a long time. It works, but Delorm is faster and eaiser for PtP l

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Josh Luthman
That's a lot of green...where is this? On 9/24/09, Mike Hammett wrote: > Large green patches wouldn't work here. From May - September, everything in > 300 miles is green. ;-) > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > ---

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Mike Hammett
Large green patches wouldn't work here. From May - September, everything in 300 miles is green. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Robert West" Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 5:03 PM To

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread RickG
Robert, There are several tutorials online. Try http://www.pizon.org/radio-mobile-tutorial/index.html -RickG On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 6:18 PM, Robert West wrote: > You know, I haven't a clue!  It looks simple, heck yes!  Everyone says it's > easy but I'll be darned if I can't get anything out of i

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Israel Lopez-LISTS
Actually I just found this: http://www.dslreports.com/faq/14302 Seems to sum up what I was trying to say =D -Israel Robert West wrote: > Thanks! > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Israel Lopez-LISTS > Sent: Wednesd

Re: [WISPA] license for amplifier?

2009-09-23 Thread RickG
For a 1/2 dozen subs? I should probably put in a backup generator too! On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Paolo Di Francesco wrote: > then try to go with guide not with coaxial cable. In this way on the > tower you will have all-passive hardware. > > just my 2cents > >> Ya thats not bad. >> The ot

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Scott Reed
Not to be repetitive, but you are describing RadioMobile John the RM Yahoo group and see if you can't get it to do just what you are looking for. Seems to me Marlon Schaffer found someone to help him learn it a few months ago. I don't remember who. I can help some if you want to ask questions of

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Jerry Richardson
Crash course: First uninstall anything to do with Radio Mobile Next download and install Radio Mobile Deluxe: http://www.pizon.org/files/index.html Once installed (leave program closed) download http://www.cplus.org/rmw/download/rmwupdate.zip Extract the following files to your Radio Mobile Del

Re: [WISPA] [Tower-pro] Watch out for Bullets!

2009-09-23 Thread Blake Bowers
Negligance? I will be damned. What state? There has to be a better state charge available. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: "kevinuhlig" To: Sent: Wednesday, Septembe

Re: [WISPA] Cedarville Oh?

2009-09-23 Thread Josh Luthman
Dayton is an RF wall - I'm glad you're not wasting your time =) We are moving north, but do plan on going east from where we are. Hopefully we run parallel. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, t

Re: [WISPA] Cedarville Oh?

2009-09-23 Thread Robert West
Okay, will do. Didn't know you were that close to Cedarville. We aren't going to build out towards Dayton, never fear, my man. We will be moving eastward. That will probably be our northern limit for the time being -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-bo

Re: [WISPA] Cedarville Oh?

2009-09-23 Thread Josh Luthman
No problem. If you need something a bit more north west let me know =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth." --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Robert West
Thanks! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Israel Lopez-LISTS Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 9:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software Doh. Forgot cant use HTML email and pasted images

Re: [WISPA] Cedarville Oh?

2009-09-23 Thread Robert West
I understand that 100%. 30k is just a big chump charge with the person paying being the chump. Hey, but thanks for looking into the link. Nothing lost, I'm just listing all the options I can think of. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Josh Luthman
That same Pizon site has you update GTOPO30 data. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth." --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Wed, Sep 23, 2009

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Israel Lopez-LISTS
Doh. Forgot cant use HTML email and pasted images. I will see if I cant make a PDF guide or so on how to get terrain data. -Israel Israel Lopez-LISTS wrote: > Actually... > > If you have the lastest radio mobile it is able to automatically pull > down the SRTM3 files. > > What I did in one ca

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Israel Lopez-LISTS
Actually... If you have the lastest radio mobile it is able to automatically pull down the SRTM3 files. What I did in one case where I didnt have the SRTM file, and I was going to be out in the field I downloaded the files by hand from this site. http://dds.cr.usgs.gov/srtm/version2_1/SRTM3/No

Re: [WISPA] Cedarville Oh?

2009-09-23 Thread Josh Luthman
I meant any cost - not no cost. Wish I was home. That's exactly what it is, they don't want to unless they get WAY overcompensated for it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains,

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Robert West
Okay, I went through it here and getting the terrain maps is indeed the place where I give up. Anyone have a good step by step to get the map in the thing?? I totally believe the 4 hour thing. My issue is, every hour... "Are you STILL up?!" -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@w

Re: [WISPA] Cedarville Oh?

2009-09-23 Thread Robert West
At no cost? Explain what no cost is? 30k is crazy. That just sounds like an easy way to say "We don't want to do it". $1200 isn't really "bad" but it's still high for someone living on the edge due to building too much network way too quickly! But, I can't 'Not" build. I'm not looking for more

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread richard sterne
I use radio mobile it takes a bit of time to work out but it is good. Richard 2009/9/23 Jerry Richardson : > It takes 4hrs in the idle of the night with zero interruptions. Once you do > that it will gel. > > Jerry Richardson > airCloud Communications > Sent Mobile (Probably one handed) > > __

Re: [WISPA] Organite defense

2009-09-23 Thread Jayson Baker
To make things worse, it has snowed here about 4-5" every day for the last 3 days. It's about 28 degrees outside right now. On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Robert West wrote: > I hear ya, brother. I have one to take all the way down weekend after > next, > 35 years old though. > > The wife wa

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Jerry Richardson
It takes 4hrs in the idle of the night with zero interruptions. Once you do that it will gel. Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications Sent Mobile (Probably one handed) From: Robert West Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 3:19 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subje

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Josh Luthman
Fine on my 15.4" and 20". Maybe you shouldn't jump the gun with those 30" ones! Try this guide for your PTP link: http://www.pizon.org/radio-mobile-tutorial/point-to-point-link.html Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have el

Re: [WISPA] Cedarville Oh?

2009-09-23 Thread Josh Luthman
Usually TW says "it's $30, 000" to do anything that's not already done. You want a line from the pole to your house? $30k. You want an upgrade your way? $30k. You want X done (where X=not complete)? $30k. All of my customers that call me after TWC say this. Sorry to say, though, we're way too

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Israel Lopez-LISTS
Hi Shaddi, You know what would be cool. Is a few things * Use the features of Radio Mobile as a basis for radio-propogation o SRTM3 Terrain Mapping o Flexible Radio Network Topology (VoiceNet, Master/Slave, etc,.) o Point to point link analysis o Visua

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Brad Belton
Pretty slick, but way, way too small of a window for my dual 30" monitors! It's like trying to read a full size fold out map in your lap through a paper towel roll! Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Lu

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Robert West
You know, I haven't a clue! It looks simple, heck yes! Everyone says it's easy but I'll be darned if I can't get anything out of it. Now you also have to understand, when I try to work with it I have 3 kids, a cat and the wife all wanting something. Time was not well spent when I've tried it.

Re: [WISPA] Cedarville Oh?

2009-09-23 Thread Robert West
Josh! My pal! (You know I want something, right?) Hey, I never thought of it but I'm trying to get access into Blanchester, Ohio and for one, what is your southern most tower and two, would you be able to bounce to Blanchester from that tower? The tower is 300' and the land elevation is 1000'.

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Josh Luthman
Radio Mobile is what I typically use, but I can't help but share this: LigoWave Link Calculator Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Robert West
I was holding this chunk of Organite and praying for such a thing and now here it is. Spooky. Get ready for the list, Shaddi. For one, this browser based software should not depend on the internet, yes? The term browser speaks internet to me. If I'm out in the field trying to figure out a l

Re: [WISPA] Cedarville Oh?

2009-09-23 Thread Josh Luthman
I'm not aware of any WISPs in that area. I think I would be closest (but my closest tower is Huber Heights). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be th

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Brad Belton
Agreed, Radio Mobile has a slight learning curve, but nothing really unusual. I'd also take a look into Cameron Crum's www.wispmon.com application. Among many, many features he has a really nice profiler built-in now. I've been a Radio Mobile user for years, but have grown to really like the pro

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread David E. Smith
Robert West wrote: > What are you folks using to verify the viability of a link before you plan > the build? I've tried using Radio Mobile but I'll be darned if I can't get > that thing to work even with the step by step instructions. I've been > finding myself just plotting elevations all the wa

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Shaddi Hasan
Howdy WISPA! Just joined today but wanted to chime in -- some students here at UNC Chapel Hill are working on a browser-based link planning tool as a semester project. It will be released as open-source at the end of the semester, so we'd like it to be useful not only for our projects but for the

[WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Robert West
What are you folks using to verify the viability of a link before you plan the build? I've tried using Radio Mobile but I'll be darned if I can't get that thing to work even with the step by step instructions. I've been finding myself just plotting elevations all the way along the link in Google

Re: [WISPA] Cedarville Oh?

2009-09-23 Thread Robert West
Not yet but probably near the end of October. There is no other wireless in the area that I know of and the DSL doesn't extent out to the rural areas. Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]

Re: [WISPA] Organite defense

2009-09-23 Thread Robert West
Yes because somehow she will KNOW he said something and she'll tell him about it the moment he gets home. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brian Webster Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 4:29 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA]

Re: [WISPA] Organite defense

2009-09-23 Thread Mike
WTF? I hope you're not smoking that sh1t! At 10:28 AM 9/23/2009, you wrote: >Never heard of such a thing. >This is very interesting: >http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message519074/pg1 > >On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:55 PM, Robert West >wrote: > > > Anyone else tired of these do-gooders and

[WISPA] Cedarville Oh?

2009-09-23 Thread chris cooper
Customer looking for service in Cedarville/Clifton area in Ohio. Let me know if you can hit it. Chris Cooper Intelliwave WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -

Re: [WISPA] Organite defense

2009-09-23 Thread Eje Gustafsson
My wife says "Yes" with that sound and look a woman only can do when you ask a stupid question. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brian Webster Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 3:29 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Organite de

Re: [WISPA] Organite defense

2009-09-23 Thread Josh Luthman
Trick question. He is wrong if you ask the woman who didn't listen. He is right if you want the truth. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the tru

Re: [WISPA] Organite defense

2009-09-23 Thread Brian Webster
Title: Thank You, If a man says something in the woods and no woman is there to hear him, is he still wrong?  :-) Thank You, Brian Webster   Robert West wrote: Josh, you are wise beyond your years. Me, I'm just a masochist. I can't go a day without being slapped down.

Re: [WISPA] Organite defense

2009-09-23 Thread Robert West
Josh, you are wise beyond your years. Me, I'm just a masochist. I can't go a day without being slapped down. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 2:37 PM To: WISPA General

Re: [WISPA] Organite defense

2009-09-23 Thread Josh Luthman
If I were married I'm pretty sure I wouldn't make it to 30 before a series of heart attacks, strokes, aneurysms and many other serious internal health problems. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible,

Re: [WISPA] Organite defense

2009-09-23 Thread Robert West
Being married is all politics. It's not cheating. Yes, I paid them 10 bucks. I just don't say how many times I pay the 10 bucks. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 2:25 PM

Re: [WISPA] Organite defense

2009-09-23 Thread Robert West
You're not a married man, are ya Josh... :) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 2:25 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Organite defense If you don't

Re: [WISPA] Organite defense

2009-09-23 Thread Josh Luthman
If you don't cheat you can't get caught... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth." --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 2:16

Re: [WISPA] Organite defense

2009-09-23 Thread Robert West
I totally thought about doing just that! Pay them 50 bucks and tell the wife I paid them 10. That's the only way, my man. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 2:05 PM To: WI

Re: [WISPA] Organite defense

2009-09-23 Thread Josh Luthman
Call up the local high school and see if a kid wants $50. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth." --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Wed, Sep 2

Re: [WISPA] Organite defense

2009-09-23 Thread Robert West
You got it! I'll be taking a few anyhow. "It will save us moneyblah, blah, blah.." She has a death wish on me, is all. I can take one down with one other person. Totally doable. But the requirements of the one other person should be someone who is taller than 5' 2", weigh more than

Re: [WISPA] The Net Neutrality speech we've all been waiting for

2009-09-23 Thread Robert West
They have all been to Al Gore's house for dinner? Al must be in this riddle someplace. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David E. Smith Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 1:56 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WIS

Re: [WISPA] Organite defense

2009-09-23 Thread Josh Luthman
I'd like to see a picture. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth." --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Robert West

Re: [WISPA] The Net Neutrality speech we've all been waiting for

2009-09-23 Thread David E. Smith
Gary Garrett wrote: > No problem, > The New World Order can handle that. What do Hollywood Hogan, Kevin Nash and Scott Hall have to do with the Internet? David Smith MVN.net NWO 4 LIFE WISPA Wants You! Join tod

Re: [WISPA] Organite defense

2009-09-23 Thread Robert West
I hear ya, brother. I have one to take all the way down weekend after next, 35 years old though. The wife wants to help me. Do I need illustrate my pain any further? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jayson Baker S

Re: [WISPA] Organite defense

2009-09-23 Thread Jayson Baker
Shh! Don't say that! I have to work on a 40 year old 25G tower in a couple days. Remove top section, install additional 10', reinstall top section. On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Robert West wrote: > Then they need to pony up some more cash. Those NSA SOB's are tighter than > a bolt on a 4

Re: [WISPA] Organite defense

2009-09-23 Thread Randy Cosby
40 days and 40 nights.. ug. Talk about Animal Farm... Robert West wrote: > I think we've all learned the lessons of dihydrogen monoxide the hard > way. Thanks for bringing THOSE memories back, Josh! > > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun.

Re: [WISPA] Organite defense

2009-09-23 Thread Robert West
I think we've all learned the lessons of dihydrogen monoxide the hard way. Thanks for bringing THOSE memories back, Josh! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 1:26 PM To:

Re: [WISPA] Organite defense

2009-09-23 Thread Josh Luthman
Cocaine is organic and natural. So is dihydrogen monoxide which is extremely lethal. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth." --- Sir Arthur

Re: [WISPA] Organite defense

2009-09-23 Thread Scott Reed
I didn't realize sand was organic. Silicon Oxide doesn't sound organic. But it must be as the site says fiberglass is organic. Oh well, maybe I should have taken organic chemistry. It think Reich may have something in the name, though, or - gone. He must have been talking about common sense

Re: [WISPA] The Net Neutrality speech we've all been waiting for

2009-09-23 Thread Gary Garrett
No problem, The New World Order can handle that. > They can pry my firewall from my cold, dead hands. -RickG > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] Organite defense

2009-09-23 Thread Robert West
I just figured it up... that would take me beyond my legal EIRP. The NSA may hold the purse strings but the FCC are their own type of evil doer and I don't need to cross them. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jayson Ba

Re: [WISPA] Organite defense

2009-09-23 Thread Robert West
Then they need to pony up some more cash. Those NSA SOB's are tighter than a bolt on a 40 year old 25G tower. They won't pay more so I'm not giving them more. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jayson Baker Sent: Wednesd

Re: [WISPA] Organite defense

2009-09-23 Thread Jayson Baker
Reminds me of a Primestar install about 100 years ago out in the boonies of Colorado. Hippie Lady told the installer she didn't want the dish on her roof, because she was concerned about the radiation. She thought there was an individual spot beam on the satellite, pointing directly at only her d

Re: [WISPA] Organite defense

2009-09-23 Thread Robert West
Just like that secret organization that makes the viruses!!! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 12:47 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Organite defense Alumin

Re: [WISPA] Organite defense

2009-09-23 Thread Robert West
I think I still have my tin-foil hat someplace. I bet Napoleon Dynamite's uncle and brother are somehow involved in this. They've had a chip on their shoulder ever since they put those crystals in wrong on the time machine they made and fried Napoleon's crotch. -Original Message- From:

Re: [WISPA] Organite defense

2009-09-23 Thread Jayson Baker
But if you add those sitckers, you'll get 1000dB more gain. Which means the government's spying capabilities will be increased. You should totally do it. On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Robert West wrote: > Hey! That's not me, I've never been able to throw those Frisbees! > > We can't put th

Re: [WISPA] Organite defense

2009-09-23 Thread Robert West
If you read the link I posted, you'll see this guy had a friend who was shooting this stuff at the towers and shot it right through the radome cover. As I said, even here in rural Ohio I was sitting in an old lady's living room as she grilled me about us being involved in the mind control and weat

Re: [WISPA] Organite defense

2009-09-23 Thread Steve Barnes
Aluminum foil hats for sale, we produce the RF, We will protect you from the RF. Win Win money maker. Steve Barnes Manager PCS-WIN RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through experience of trial and suffering can the soul be strengthened, visi

Re: [WISPA] Organite defense

2009-09-23 Thread Randy Cosby
Has anyone actually found any of these near their towers? I'd love to see pics. Maybe we could collect them and have a contest for best Holy Hand grenade find sometime... Jayson Baker wrote: > Maybe you should just order some of the cell phone protector sticky sheets > and stick them to all yo

Re: [WISPA] Organite defense

2009-09-23 Thread Josh Luthman
Can you imagine how much money those people made though?! We should sell "suggested RF protection" hats/stickers/etc and use those funds for more APs. More APs means more coverage in new areas. The new area population needs "suggested RF protection". Sounds like a good business model to me. Jo

Re: [WISPA] Organite defense

2009-09-23 Thread Robert West
Hey! That's not me, I've never been able to throw those Frisbees! We can't put them on our sector antennas. The government is paying us all this broadband stimulus money for us to let them use our antennas to conduct their mind control and weather experiments. I'm not about to give that cash up

Re: [WISPA] Organite defense

2009-09-23 Thread Jayson Baker
Maybe you should just order some of the cell phone protector sticky sheets and stick them to all your sector antennas: http://www.envirohealthtech.com/images/earthcalm%20ecoTec.jpg Dumb. Almost as dumb as those stupid sticky "cell phone antenna booster" things of the early 2000's. What ever happe

Re: [WISPA] Organite defense

2009-09-23 Thread Josh Luthman
New age medicine - it's very profitable on their side, for the rest of us on Earth it wastes so much time and money. New products are great but not when things are practiced without research. Damned placebo effect! Penn and Teller's show provides truth about these kinds of things. One of the be

Re: [WISPA] Organite defense

2009-09-23 Thread Steve Barnes
For those of you who are like me, "What the heck is Organite". Try this link. http://www.envirohealthtech.com/orgonite.htm Sheesh, (Banging head on desk) Why can't these people do something constructive with their time and energy. Wonder what genius is getting rich on this one. Steve Barnes

Re: [WISPA] Koontz Lake, IN

2009-09-23 Thread Jeff Broadwick
Fourway is around that area also. I've pinged Roland to see if he has coverage. Jeff -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 12:01 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA]

Re: [WISPA] Koontz Lake, IN

2009-09-23 Thread Steve Barnes
I think John at Michianawireless.com is the closest but his service may stop a mile north. If you go to his website have your speakers turned down. (sorry john scares me to death every time) Steve Barnes Manager PCS-WIN RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service Character cannot be developed in ease a

Re: [WISPA] Organite defense

2009-09-23 Thread Robert West
The thing that caught my eye is they call is "Tower Busting". Some, of these kooks were arrested down in South America in April for "Assaulting communication towers". They call them "Holy Hand grenades" and when they place this stuff near you they call it "Gifting". Take a look at this link.

Re: [WISPA] license for amplifier?

2009-09-23 Thread Paolo Di Francesco
then try to go with guide not with coaxial cable. In this way on the tower you will have all-passive hardware. just my 2cents > Ya thats not bad. > The other problem with this tower is that because of the terrain, you > cant get a bucket near it for most of the year. > So, I was just trying to ke

[WISPA] Koontz Lake, IN

2009-09-23 Thread Mike Hammett
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Re: [WISPA] Organite defense

2009-09-23 Thread Jayson Baker
Never heard of such a thing. This is very interesting: http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message519074/pg1 On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:55 PM, Robert West wrote: > Anyone else tired of these do-gooders and their organite gifting of your > towers? > > Here I am, minding my own business and the

Re: [WISPA] Organite defense

2009-09-23 Thread sales
HAARP anyone? :) - Original Message - From: "Robert West" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 10:55:35 PM GMT -05:00 Columbia Subject: [WISPA] Organite defense Anyone else tired of these do-gooders and their organite gifting of your towers? Here I am, minding my

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

2009-09-23 Thread RickG
This is imminent. The questions is: whose network? -RickG On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Robert West wrote: > One thing you can bank on, it WILL take hold. > > The need for more Bandwidth won't be stopped anytime soon, I believe. > Eventually most if not all communications will run over the sam

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Problem - 900Mhz-WDS-incremental speeddegradetp Zero then drop- repeat.

2009-09-23 Thread RickG
Now that is very useful info Tom. I look forward to your next report. Thanks! -RickG On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 3:29 AM, Tom DeReggi wrote: > Update for those Interested > > I loaded the newest stable rel MT OS v 3.30 on all the radio. > It did not help. The problem still existed. > > To review

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

2009-09-23 Thread Robert West
One thing you can bank on, it WILL take hold. The need for more Bandwidth won't be stopped anytime soon, I believe. Eventually most if not all communications will run over the same network, which if you think about it, all the communications out there seem to touch the internet at least in part.

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

2009-09-23 Thread Clint Ricker
For the mainstream ISPs (the big RBOCs and MSOs), their bandwidth costs are very, very low and are a small fraction of their overall costs. However, that statement does ignore the costs of perpetually upgrading their network to handle larger volumes of bandwidth. From a cost perspective, that is

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Problem - 900Mhz-WDS-incremental speeddegradetp Zero then drop- repeat.

2009-09-23 Thread Tom DeReggi
Update for those Interested I loaded the newest stable rel MT OS v 3.30 on all the radio. It did not help. The problem still existed. To review we had two clients "a" and "b", and "b" was the one that would drop link if pass traffic in upload direction. Initially it was impossible to upload

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

2009-09-23 Thread Tom DeReggi
If you haven't tried to renegotiate price within last 6 months, you guys paying to much should try and negotiate better pricing, you'd be surprised, even in Rural America price is comming way down, for those that know to demand the lower price. (Provided there is atleast one other competitor tra