Re: [WISPA] looking for feedback on Exalt - ExploreAir

2011-04-13 Thread Mike Hammett
I remember seeing that there was a vendor other than Exalt that had a 1 gig real throughput single radio setup. It was even mentioned in one of these Exalt threads. However, my searching magic simply can't find it. Ideas? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [WISPA] looking for feedback on Exalt - ExploreAir

2011-04-13 Thread can...@believewireless.net
Bridgewave does as well. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] looking for feedback on Exalt - ExploreAir

2011-04-13 Thread Mike Hammett
That's what I thought, but they only had their 60 and 80 GHz products on their site. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 4/13/2011 6:17 AM, can...@believewireless.net wrote: Bridgewave does as well.

[WISPA] Ethernet Cable for FM Tower Install

2011-04-13 Thread can...@believewireless.net
We are mounting close to a 50kW FM antenna and want to use heavy, double shielded cable for the runs to the APs since we've seen issues in the past. Fiber up the tower but will need 3-4 ft jumpers to the APs. Any recommendations?

Re: [WISPA] Ethernet Cable for FM Tower Install

2011-04-13 Thread Dennis Burgess
http://www.wlan1.com/product_p/cat5e-shielded.htm --- Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training

Re: [WISPA] looking for feedback on Exalt - ExploreAir

2011-04-13 Thread Blake Covarrubias
On Apr 13, 2011, at 4:15 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: I remember seeing that there was a vendor other than Exalt that had a 1 gig real throughput single radio setup. It was even mentioned in one of these Exalt threads. However, my searching magic simply can't find it. Trango can apparently

Re: [WISPA] looking for feedback on Exalt - ExploreAir

2011-04-13 Thread Nick Olsen
I remember hearing that was only on the high freq side. And that at 11ghz with payload compression they were seeing about 2:1 (so like ~500Mb/s@11ghz). Also heard that the radio will compress, Then compare it to the uncompressed packet. And that if it didn't gain anything, It would just drop

Re: [WISPA] Ethernet Cable for FM Tower Install

2011-04-13 Thread can...@believewireless.net
I'm assuming that's single shielded and not double shielded. On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.net wrote: http://www.wlan1.com/product_p/cat5e-shielded.htm --- Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer

Re: [WISPA] Ethernet Cable for FM Tower Install

2011-04-13 Thread David E. Smith
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 08:35, can...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.net wrote: We are mounting close to a 50kW FM antenna and want to use heavy, double shielded cable for the runs to the APs since we've seen issues in the past. Fiber up the tower but will need 3-4 ft jumpers to

Re: [WISPA] Question about hosting client's POS merchant account for credit card processing

2011-04-13 Thread Ben West
Thanks everyone for your responses re: serving clients' credit card readers; they were very helpful. A related question I asked on another listserv: does anyone use lightweight VPN solutions in their CPE to create tunnels from the client's location, thru your backhaul, back to your wired/fibered

Re: [WISPA] Question about hosting client's POS merchant account for credit card processing

2011-04-13 Thread Sam Tetherow
network aware CC terminals do not encrypt their own traffic? On 4/13/11 1:30 PM, Ben West wrote: Thanks everyone for your responses re: serving clients' credit card readers; they were very helpful. A related question I asked on another listserv: does anyone use lightweight VPN solutions in

Re: [WISPA] Question about hosting client's POS merchant account for credit card processing

2011-04-13 Thread Jerry Richardson
MikroTik RB750's at the client and maybe a RB493 at the head end? Instant VPN tunnel. - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ben West Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 11:31 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Question about hosting

Re: [WISPA] Question about hosting client's POS merchant account for credit card processing

2011-04-13 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Hi Ben, You can slice this in as many ways as you like... However if you want to keep it simple and effective... Here is the rundown If they are using the correct processor, who is able to do these transactions over IP / via the Internet, then you don't have to worry about any of

Re: [WISPA] Ethernet Cable for FM Tower Install

2011-04-13 Thread Scott Carullo
Get with someone who can tell you exactly how long to make the cables. You don't want them any whole fraction of the FM wavelength freq or it will compound your problem. Make them as de-tuned length as possible. I've had a coax in my hand not hooked to anything in the vacinity of a

Re: [WISPA] Ethernet Cable for FM Tower Install

2011-04-13 Thread Dennis Burgess
This is correct, but we have this cable installed on 100k FM transmitter towers without issues. --- Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website:

[WISPA] Can 900MHz do this?

2011-04-13 Thread Greg Ihnen
I've been asked by the powers that be in a nearby small municipality to remote control their generators as I have done on our own, so they can quickly shut it down when lightning approaches. They just lost one of their 500KVA generators to lightning. I'd be volunteering my time and expertise in

Re: [WISPA] Can 900MHz do this?

2011-04-13 Thread ~NGL~
We use Tranzeo TR-902's in hills all the time, and have good luck. I use this unit to reboot my Ap's on the towers, it is controlled with a pager. http://www.wesellpagers.com/wireless_switch.htm Bob Rothstein Prime Access (877) 333-1003 Works flawless NGL

Re: [WISPA] Can 900MHz do this?

2011-04-13 Thread Greg Ihnen
Thanks for the info about 900MHz. It sounds like it would work. The only thing I can find in country is 2.4GHz and 5.8GHz gear. So I'll have to import the 900MHz if I want it or just go with 2.4GHz. I might try the 2.4GHz NanoBridges since I can buy them locally. With the 18dbi antennas it

Re: [WISPA] Question about hosting client's POS merchant account for credit card processing

2011-04-13 Thread Ben West
Faisal, Thank you especially for the response that the network-aware CC readers (should) encrypt their traffic. I was having difficulty finding non-ambiguous information about that. I'm still looking at options for possible lightweight VPN solutions, whether to add another layer of security to

Re: [WISPA] Ethernet Cable for FM Tower Install

2011-04-13 Thread Patrick Shoemaker
Wavelength (m) = speed of light (m/s) / frequency (Hz) Avoid ΒΌ wavelength multiples. -- Patrick Shoemaker From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Carullo Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 14:54 To: can...@believewireless.net; WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] Ethernet Cable for FM Tower Install

2011-04-13 Thread Patrick Shoemaker
And speed of light (c) = 300,000,000 m/s -- Patrick Shoemaker From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Patrick Shoemaker Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 21:10 To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ethernet Cable for FM

Re: [WISPA] Ethernet Cable for FM Tower Install

2011-04-13 Thread Greg Ihnen
In space (vacuum). Cables have a velocity factor. On Apr 13, 2011, at 8:42 PM, Patrick Shoemaker wrote: And speed of light (c) = 300,000,000 m/s -- Patrick Shoemaker From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Patrick Shoemaker Sent: Wednesday,

Re: [WISPA] Ethernet Cable for FM Tower Install

2011-04-13 Thread Patrick Shoemaker
Except in this case, assuming the shield is intact and good quality, we are dealing with undesired currents flowing on the surface of the cable shield only. At 100 MHz and assuming an aluminum foil shield in the cat5, the shield metal is thicker than a few skin depths (about 8 um skin depth).

Re: [WISPA] Ethernet Cable for FM Tower Install

2011-04-13 Thread Greg Ihnen
If the dielectric of coax cables causes them to have a velocity factor of .6, why would the jacket insulation be different? Greg On Apr 13, 2011, at 9:28 PM, Patrick Shoemaker wrote: Except in this case, assuming the shield is intact and good quality, we are dealing with undesired currents

Re: [WISPA] Ethernet Cable for FM Tower Install

2011-04-13 Thread Patrick Shoemaker
Because usually when we're analyzing a coax cable the current we care about is flowing within the cable, on the outer surface of the inner conductor and the inner surface of the outer conductor. The physical dimensions and materials of the cable components and the dielectric constant (relative