Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers

2012-10-12 Thread Dustin Jurman
Hey Fred, we did exactly that with our Hardee County Network, we use licensed links between MEF switches. Rapid deployment with fiber forward design. I think we have been through all configurations, bridging, routing and layer2 switching. You could not hit the nail on the head any better

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers

2012-10-12 Thread Steve Barnes
Not to add an advertisement but Level 2 networking is one of the topics that we plan to hit on at WISPAPOLOOZA in the Technical Knowledge Exchange at 4:00 on Thursday the 25th. That is one of the point Gino wanted to bring up. I will be moderating so if someone has other important Technical

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers

2012-10-12 Thread Tim Densmore
Hi Fred, Could you expand a bit on this? It sounds like you're describing what I'd refer to as virtual circuits rather than switching. Are you setting up per-customer VLANs or something like that? TD On 10/11/2012 06:35 PM, Fred Goldstein wrote: Switching, though, is what Frame Relay and

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers

2012-10-12 Thread Fred Goldstein
At 10/12/2012 10:23 AM, Tim Densmore wrote: Hi Fred, Could you expand a bit on this? It sounds like you're describing what I'd refer to as virtual circuits rather than switching. Are you setting up per-customer VLANs or something like that? It helps if you think of it as Ethernet-framed Frame

[WISPA] Another Ubiquity question

2012-10-12 Thread Olufemi Adalemo
Need help, I'm looking to deploy a UBNT NSM5 powered by a 24v solar supply. Does anyone have experience with this? The data sheet shows that it requires a 24v supply however the POE injector supplied is 15v, do I need a DC to DC converter? Best regards, - - - *Olufemi Adalemo* M: +234-803-5610040

Re: [WISPA] Another Ubiquity question

2012-10-12 Thread Josh Luthman
Yes you will. The batteries will probably be around 27v which Ubnt won't like. You'll need to clean the ~18-27v from the batteries to 24v. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Olufemi Adalemo

[WISPA] This isn't UBNT support.

2012-10-12 Thread Drew Lentz
At the risk of starting a flame war, I think UBNT needs its own list for WISPA. I love the conversation in here, but it seems that more and more this is turning into UBNT crowd-sourced support. I may be alone on this, but seriously. /just sayin -drew Sent from my iPhone On Oct 12, 2012, at

Re: [WISPA] This isn't UBNT support.

2012-10-12 Thread Chuck Hogg
They already have the list... ubnt_us...@wispa.org Regards, Chuck On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Drew Lentz d...@drewlentz.com wrote: At the risk of starting a flame war, I think UBNT needs its own list for WISPA. I love the conversation in here, but it seems that more and more this is

Re: [WISPA] This isn't UBNT support.

2012-10-12 Thread Josh Luthman
There is: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_us...@wispa.org, The question was just posted on the wrong list. It doesn't bother me because I'm on both lists. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Drew Lentz

Re: [WISPA] This isn't UBNT support.

2012-10-12 Thread Drew Lentz
looks left then looks right ... ::shrugs:: Well ok then. -d Sent from my iPhone On Oct 12, 2012, at 12:28 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: They already have the list... ubnt_us...@wispa.org Regards, Chuck On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Drew Lentz

Re: [WISPA] Another Ubiquity question

2012-10-12 Thread Olufemi Adalemo
Aha, thanks That explains why I have a dead NSM5 on my desk I guess the charge controller is not very good at giving out 24v regulated power - - - *Olufemi Adalemo* M: +234-803-5610040 M: +234-809-8610040 f...@adalemo.com On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Josh Luthman

Re: [WISPA] Another Ubiquity question

2012-10-12 Thread Josh Luthman
Charger isn't going to spit out 24v for batteries that need charged, it's usually 27v. I was under the impression they would simply lock up and you could reboot, or maybe I'm just thinking of MT. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On

Re: [WISPA] Another Ubiquity question

2012-10-12 Thread Kristian Hoffmann
We have MT and Ubnt equipment of all shapes and sizes running at 27.6V. The only problems we've had are a handful of freak RB411s that won't power on with 27V. Most of the older ones wouldn't kick into overvoltage protection until 28V, but we've come across a few odd balls. -Kristian On

Re: [WISPA] Another Ubiquity question

2012-10-12 Thread Olufemi Adalemo
What's your typical config for the NSM5? Some of my guys just tried to power one off a 24v battery bank (no charger connected just battery) and it fried good - - - *Olufemi Adalemo* M: +234-803-5610040 M: +234-809-8610040 f...@adalemo.com On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Kristian Hoffmann

Re: [WISPA] Another Ubiquity question

2012-10-12 Thread Josh Luthman
What voltage were the batteries spitting out? They charge at 27v but without a charger put out much closer to 24v until they begin discharging. If it fried the radio I would first think that it was connected wrong, not that the voltage was too high. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct:

Re: [WISPA] Another Ubiquity question

2012-10-12 Thread Olufemi Adalemo
Ah ok, it is possible that the guys didn't get the polarity right I will check though they swear that they did - - - *Olufemi Adalemo* M: +234-803-5610040 M: +234-809-8610040 f...@adalemo.com On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: What voltage were

Re: [WISPA] This isn't UBNT support.

2012-10-12 Thread Mike Hammett
UBNT also is founded upon crowd-sourced sales and support. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Drew Lentz d...@drewlentz.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent:

Re: [WISPA] Another Ubiquity question

2012-10-12 Thread aajayiobe
I've used a 24v AC-DC power supply with cable length 80M. Been up 6months. Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe +234(0)8023258027 -Original Message- From: Olufemi Adalemo adal...@gmail.com Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 18:14:58 To: WISPA Listwireless@wispa.org Reply-To:

Re: [WISPA] This isn't UBNT support.

2012-10-12 Thread aajayiobe
How do I join? Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe +234(0)8023258027 -Original Message- From: Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 13:28:21 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA]

Re: [WISPA] This isn't UBNT support.

2012-10-12 Thread Chuck Hogg
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users Regards, Chuck On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 2:50 PM, aajayi...@as-technologies.com wrote: How do I join? Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe +234(0)8023258027 -Original Message- From: Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com Sender:

Re: [WISPA] Another Ubiquity question

2012-10-12 Thread Kristian Hoffmann
Ya, it should be +24 on pins 4,5 and -24/comm on 7,8. If it blew up then there was probably a short somewhere. -Kristian On 10/12/2012 11:11 AM, Olufemi Adalemo wrote: Ah ok, it is possible that the guys didn't get the polarity right I will check though they swear that they did - - -

Re: [WISPA] This isn't UBNT support.

2012-10-12 Thread Rick Harnish
http://www.wispa.org/mailing-lists Where there is a Wisp, there is a way! Respectfully, Rick Harnish Executive Director WISPA 260-307-4000 cell 866-317-2851 Option 2 WISPA Office Skype: rick.harnish. rharn...@wispa.org adm...@wispa.org (Trina and Rick) -Original Message- From:

Re: [WISPA] This isn't UBNT support.

2012-10-12 Thread Drew Lentz
I am totally aware of that, I just don't think the WISPA General List is the place for it. :) -drew On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote: UBNT also is founded upon crowd-sourced sales and support. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers

2012-10-12 Thread Butch Evans
On Fri, 2012-10-12 at 10:52 -0400, Fred Goldstein wrote: There's a real market gap not quite being filled by our usual WISP vendors MT and UBNT. MT has a new CPE router with SFP support. This would be great for a regional CE fiber network. Let's say you have a building (say, Town Hall)

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers

2012-10-12 Thread Fred Goldstein
At 10/12/2012 05:48 PM, Butch Evans wrote: On Fri, 2012-10-12 at 10:52 -0400, Fred Goldstein wrote: There's a real market gap not quite being filled by our usual WISP vendors MT and UBNT. MT has a new CPE router with SFP support. This would be great for a regional CE fiber network. Let's

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers

2012-10-12 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Being a Technical person, and a visual learner.. I am having trouble translating what Fred is trying to do with a Mikrotik, which he thinks it cannot do. We build our Fixed wireless pop's with a Mikrotik Router doing the Routing Functions at each pop. Each of the Sectors are connected on their

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers

2012-10-12 Thread Fred Goldstein
At 10/12/2012 07:06 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: Being a Technical person, and a visual learner.. I am having trouble translating what Fred is trying to do with a Mikrotik, which he thinks it cannot do. Actually, I said that I don't know how to do it, not that it can or cannot be done. It may be a

Re: [WISPA] Another Ubiquity question

2012-10-12 Thread Tony C. Loosle
I have several radios working off solar for years. Good charge controller and batteries works perfect! tony Olufemi Adalemo Friday, October 12, 2012 11:14 AM Need help,I'm looking to deploy a UBNT NSM5 powered by a 24v solar supply.Does anyone have experience with

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers

2012-10-12 Thread Rubens Kuhl
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Arthur Stephens arthur.steph...@ptera.net wrote: We currently use Ubiquiti radios in bridge mode and assign a ip address to the customers router. He have heard other wisp are using the Ubiquiti radio as a router. Would like feed back why one would do this when

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers

2012-10-12 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Faisal Imtiaz On 10/12/2012 7:19 PM, Fred Goldstein wrote: At 10/12/2012 07:06 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: Being a Technical person, and a visual learner.. I am having trouble translating what Fred is trying to do with a Mikrotik, which he thinks it cannot do. Actually, I said that I don't

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers

2012-10-12 Thread Scott Reed
NAT at the at a couple of towers, but not at the CPE. On 10/11/2012 6:52 PM, Sam Tetherow wrote: Not sure I under stand the no-NAT, so every device on the other side of the CPE has it's own public IP? On 10/11/2012 4:53 PM, Scott Reed wrote: We run MT, not UBNT, CPE, but it doesn't matter

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers

2012-10-12 Thread Scott Reed
MT has several devices with hardware switches on board and fully accessible through the GUI. They also have a switch sort of based on ROS. On 10/11/2012 8:35 PM, Fred Goldstein wrote: At 10/11/2012 06:52 PM, SamT wrote: Not sure I under stand the no-NAT, so every device on the other side of

Re: [WISPA] This isn't UBNT support.

2012-10-12 Thread Victoria Proffer
Sign me up to that list! =) Victoria Proffer President/CEO 314-974-5600 St. Louis Broadband, LLC http://www.stlbroadband.com/ www. StLouisBroadband.com From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Drew Lentz Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 12:20

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers

2012-10-12 Thread LTI - Dennis Burgess
What is being described is the default behavior of any standard managed switch. There is no virtual circuit being built and it still broadcasts across said VLAN. They are simply only allowing the VLAN to go from point A to point B. This though can be done at wire speed in the hardware of any

Re: [WISPA] This isn't UBNT support.

2012-10-12 Thread LTI - Dennis Burgess
Here here! Move it to the UBNT list! On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Victoria Proffer victo...@stlbroadband.com wrote: Sign me up to that list! =) ** ** Victoria Proffer President/CEO 314-974-5600 St. Louis Broadband, LLC www. StLouisBroadband.com

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers

2012-10-12 Thread Mike Hammett
Fred, I don't think most of the people here understand what YOU'RE talking about. They think a switch is just a switch and they're all the same, but that's far from the truth. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Fred

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers

2012-10-12 Thread Mike Hammett
I want to see the removal of doing anything other than DHCP to the client's device. The CPE radio pulls it's rate-shaping information from RADIUS and allows any number of DHCP clients on a per-CPE basis to pull a public IP. An ISP doing NAT is just silly. - Mike Hammett Intelligent

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers

2012-10-12 Thread Mike Hammett
All MT switching is junk. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Scott Reed sr...@nwwnet.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 8:18:25 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers

2012-10-12 Thread Fred Goldstein
Mike Hammett duly noted, Fred, I don't think most of the people here understand what YOU'RE talking about. They think a switch is just a switch and they're all the same, but that's far from the truth. Probably true, which is why I'd like to clarify it. Vendors who sell primarily to ISPs