Re: [WISPA] Dealing with ice

2013-02-07 Thread Tony C. Loosle
I lost a couple radios 
about the same time.   With the wind and the ice.  Strange that I could 
not get one of the radios to work on the tower.  Once it was on my bench
 it works fine.  Not sure its going back out or not.

It was the combination of wind and ice that got me.

t



   	   
   	Troy Settle  
  Thursday, 
February 07, 2013 1:08 PM
  I have a site that’s sitting at about 4500’ that took 
some pretty serious ice damage. In short, we’re using UBNT’s antennas and the short 
jumpers that came with them.  Lost about a half-dozen of them during a 
recent storm, which really didn’t even qualify as an ‘ice storm.’ What can I do to
 help protect these jumpers from getting torn up by ice? What was UBNT 
thinking when they put the RF connectors on TOP of the rockets? -Troy ___Wireless
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Re: [WISPA] Level3 Explosion?

2013-02-07 Thread Gustavo Santos
Here we had to upgrade our Juniper´s router because of these exploit.
Juniper advertised all customers to update asap.

Gustavo Santos
Analista de Redes
CCNA , MTCNA , MTCRE, MTCINE, JUNCIA-ER


2013/2/7 Jeremy L. Gaddis 

> * Matt Hoppes  wrote:
> > Did anyone else see an explosion on the Level3 network this morning?
> > They've been up and down all morning since around 2:30 eastern time...
> > just recovered recently.
>
> >From the e-mail notification I received from Level 3 (~13 hours before
> the start of the maintenance window):
>
> "Emergency Maintenance Advisement - This maintenance is scheduled."
>
> ... and ...
>
> "Level 3 Communications will perform a mandatory network upgrade that
> will be service impacting and will impact devices in multiple locations.
> We are upgrading the code on portions of the global network to increase
> stability for the overall network. During this maintenance activity
> customers may be impacted for approximately 30 minutes."
>
> My own guess is that they wanted to quickly get their gear upgraded so
> that they weren't caught with their pants down like the last time such a
> vulnerability was announced. In that case, someone posted (previously
> unknown) exploit details to the full-disclosure mailing list, forcing
> many to to delay patching any longer:
>
>   http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2010/Jan/136
>
> On a side note: if you ever want to receive a ton of hate mail from
> engineers at large companies and telcos, that's a good way to do it.
>
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Re: [WISPA] Dealing with ice

2013-02-07 Thread Justin Wilson
RF armor shields and actual ice shields on the tower.  It doesn't take much.
Basically a grate hooked to the tower a foot or so above your antennas.  If
in doubt find the lower marker lights on the tower. They will most likely
have an ice guard above them.  Use that as a design.

Justin

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From:  Troy Settle 
Reply-To:  WISPA General List 
Date:  Thursday, February 7, 2013 3:08 PM
To:  
Subject:  [WISPA] Dealing with ice

> I have a site that¹s sitting at about 4500¹ that took some pretty serious ice
> damage.
>  
> In short, we¹re using UBNT¹s antennas and the short jumpers that came with
> them.  Lost about a half-dozen of them during a recent storm, which really
> didn¹t even qualify as an Œice storm.¹
>  
> What can I do to help protect these jumpers from getting torn up by ice?
>  
> What was UBNT thinking when they put the RF connectors on TOP of the rockets?
>  
> -Troy
>  
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Re: [WISPA] Dealing with ice

2013-02-07 Thread Faisal Imtiaz

Good Times..  Good Times
   Just admit it .. You all are jealous of the fine fine fine 70 
degree weather we have...
  Air Conditioners are still working over time in Sunny 
Florida !


:)

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, Fl 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net

On 2/7/2013 5:13 PM, Rick Harnish wrote:


Hmm, Jamaican's spell sledding weird.  Hey maaan, we go sledging, no?

*From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
*On Behalf Of *Faisal Imtiaz

*Sent:* Thursday, February 07, 2013 4:11 PM
*To:* Cliff Leboeuf
*Cc:* WISPA General List
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Dealing with ice

Hey . Have you not heard of the Jamaican Bob Sledge Team 

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, Fl 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email:supp...@snappydsl.net  


On 2/7/2013 4:02 PM, Cliff Leboeuf wrote:

Ha! Faisal in Miami providing "ice" suggestions... hehe

*From: *Faisal Imtiaz mailto:fai...@snappydsl.net>>
*Reply-To: *Faisal Imtiaz mailto:fai...@snappydsl.net>>, WISPA General List
mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
*Date: *Thursday, February 7, 2013 2:19 PM
*To: *"wireless@wispa.org "
mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
*Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Dealing with ice

Seriously consider using RFArmor Shields
They will protect your radios / jumpers and improve performance.

:)


Faisal Imtiaz

Snappy Internet & Telecom

7266 SW 48 Street

Miami, Fl 33155

Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email:supp...@snappydsl.net  


On 2/7/2013 3:08 PM, Troy Settle wrote:

I have a site that's sitting at about 4500' that took some
pretty serious ice damage.

In short, we're using UBNT's antennas and the short jumpers
that came with them. Lost about a half-dozen of them during a
recent storm, which really didn't even qualify as an 'ice storm.'

What can I do to help protect these jumpers from getting torn
up by ice?

What was UBNT thinking when they put the RF connectors on TOP
of the rockets?

-Troy




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Re: [WISPA] Dealing with ice

2013-02-07 Thread Rick Harnish
Hmm, Jamaican's spell sledding weird.  Hey maaan, we go sledging, no?

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 4:11 PM
To: Cliff Leboeuf
Cc: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dealing with ice

 

Hey . Have you not heard of the Jamaican Bob Sledge Team 



Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, Fl 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net

On 2/7/2013 4:02 PM, Cliff Leboeuf wrote:

Ha! Faisal in Miami providing "ice" suggestions. hehe

 

From: Faisal Imtiaz 
Reply-To: Faisal Imtiaz , WISPA General List

Date: Thursday, February 7, 2013 2:19 PM
To: "wireless@wispa.org" 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dealing with ice

 

Seriously consider using RFArmor Shields 
They will protect your radios / jumpers and improve performance.

:)




Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, Fl 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net

On 2/7/2013 3:08 PM, Troy Settle wrote:

I have a site that's sitting at about 4500' that took some pretty serious
ice damage.

 

In short, we're using UBNT's antennas and the short jumpers that came with
them.  Lost about a half-dozen of them during a recent storm, which really
didn't even qualify as an 'ice storm.'

 

What can I do to help protect these jumpers from getting torn up by ice?

 

What was UBNT thinking when they put the RF connectors on TOP of the
rockets?

 

-Troy

 






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Re: [WISPA] Dealing with ice

2013-02-07 Thread Bret Clark

Anyone mention Ice Shields yet ;).

In a ice storm about month ago, ice was so bad that a chuck came off the 
tower, some how ricocheted off a tower leg and went through the roof of 
the hut! Missed our equipment, but not AT&T's stuff!


Been at this site for 8 years and this is first time I've ever seen 
that! Went up there the day after the storm and it sounded like WWII 
with all the ice cracking and falling off the tower...needless to say we 
didn't stay around long!!!


Bret

On 02/07/2013 03:19 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:

Seriously consider using RFArmor Shields
They will protect your radios / jumpers and improve performance.

:)

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, Fl 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email:supp...@snappydsl.net
On 2/7/2013 3:08 PM, Troy Settle wrote:


I have a site that’s sitting at about 4500’ that took some pretty 
serious ice damage.


In short, we’re using UBNT’s antennas and the short jumpers that came 
with them.  Lost about a half-dozen of them during a recent storm, 
which really didn’t even qualify as an ‘ice storm.’


What can I do to help protect these jumpers from getting torn up by ice?

What was UBNT thinking when they put the RF connectors on TOP of the 
rockets?


-Troy



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Re: [WISPA] Dealing with ice

2013-02-07 Thread Cliff Leboeuf
Sure, but I've never know them to be good at it.

From: Faisal Imtiaz mailto:fai...@snappydsl.net>>
Reply-To: Faisal Imtiaz mailto:fai...@snappydsl.net>>
Date: Thursday, February 7, 2013 3:11 PM
To: Cliff LeBoeuf mailto:cliff.lebo...@cssla.com>>
Cc: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dealing with ice

Hey . Have you not heard of the Jamaican Bob Sledge Team 

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, Fl 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: 
supp...@snappydsl.net

On 2/7/2013 4:02 PM, Cliff Leboeuf wrote:
Ha! Faisal in Miami providing "ice" suggestions… hehe

From: Faisal Imtiaz mailto:fai...@snappydsl.net>>
Reply-To: Faisal Imtiaz mailto:fai...@snappydsl.net>>, 
WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Date: Thursday, February 7, 2013 2:19 PM
To: "wireless@wispa.org" 
mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dealing with ice

Seriously consider using RFArmor Shields
They will protect your radios / jumpers and improve performance.

:)


Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, Fl 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: 
supp...@snappydsl.net

On 2/7/2013 3:08 PM, Troy Settle wrote:
I have a site that’s sitting at about 4500’ that took some pretty serious ice 
damage.

In short, we’re using UBNT’s antennas and the short jumpers that came with 
them.  Lost about a half-dozen of them during a recent storm, which really 
didn’t even qualify as an ‘ice storm.’

What can I do to help protect these jumpers from getting torn up by ice?

What was UBNT thinking when they put the RF connectors on TOP of the rockets?

-Troy




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Re: [WISPA] Dealing with ice

2013-02-07 Thread Faisal Imtiaz

Hey . Have you not heard of the Jamaican Bob Sledge Team 

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, Fl 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net

On 2/7/2013 4:02 PM, Cliff Leboeuf wrote:

Ha! Faisal in Miami providing "ice" suggestions… hehe

From: Faisal Imtiaz mailto:fai...@snappydsl.net>>
Reply-To: Faisal Imtiaz >, WISPA General List >

Date: Thursday, February 7, 2013 2:19 PM
To: "wireless@wispa.org " 
mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>

Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dealing with ice

Seriously consider using RFArmor Shields
They will protect your radios / jumpers and improve performance.

:)

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, Fl 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email:supp...@snappydsl.net
On 2/7/2013 3:08 PM, Troy Settle wrote:


I have a site that’s sitting at about 4500’ that took some pretty 
serious ice damage.


In short, we’re using UBNT’s antennas and the short jumpers that came 
with them. Lost about a half-dozen of them during a recent storm, 
which really didn’t even qualify as an ‘ice storm.’


What can I do to help protect these jumpers from getting torn up by ice?

What was UBNT thinking when they put the RF connectors on TOP of the 
rockets?


-Troy



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Re: [WISPA] Dealing with ice

2013-02-07 Thread Cliff Leboeuf
Ha! Faisal in Miami providing "ice" suggestions… hehe

From: Faisal Imtiaz mailto:fai...@snappydsl.net>>
Reply-To: Faisal Imtiaz mailto:fai...@snappydsl.net>>, 
WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Date: Thursday, February 7, 2013 2:19 PM
To: "wireless@wispa.org" 
mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dealing with ice

Seriously consider using RFArmor Shields
They will protect your radios / jumpers and improve performance.

:)


Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, Fl 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: 
supp...@snappydsl.net

On 2/7/2013 3:08 PM, Troy Settle wrote:
I have a site that’s sitting at about 4500’ that took some pretty serious ice 
damage.

In short, we’re using UBNT’s antennas and the short jumpers that came with 
them.  Lost about a half-dozen of them during a recent storm, which really 
didn’t even qualify as an ‘ice storm.’

What can I do to help protect these jumpers from getting torn up by ice?

What was UBNT thinking when they put the RF connectors on TOP of the rockets?

-Troy




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Re: [WISPA] Dealing with ice

2013-02-07 Thread Faisal Imtiaz

Seriously consider using RFArmor Shields
They will protect your radios / jumpers and improve performance.

:)

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, Fl 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net

On 2/7/2013 3:08 PM, Troy Settle wrote:


I have a site that's sitting at about 4500' that took some pretty 
serious ice damage.


In short, we're using UBNT's antennas and the short jumpers that came 
with them.  Lost about a half-dozen of them during a recent storm, 
which really didn't even qualify as an 'ice storm.'


What can I do to help protect these jumpers from getting torn up by ice?

What was UBNT thinking when they put the RF connectors on TOP of the 
rockets?


-Troy



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Re: [WISPA] Dealing with ice

2013-02-07 Thread Josh Luthman
WB ice shields

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Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

> Shielding kits?
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Troy Settle" 
> To: wireless@wispa.org
> Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2013 2:08:02 PM
> Subject: [WISPA] Dealing with ice
>
>
>
>
>
> I have a site that’s sitting at about 4500’ that took some pretty serious
> ice damage.
>
>
>
> In short, we’re using UBNT’s antennas and the short jumpers that came with
> them. Lost about a half-dozen of them during a recent storm, which really
> didn’t even qualify as an ‘ice storm.’
>
>
>
> What can I do to help protect these jumpers from getting torn up by ice?
>
>
>
> What was UBNT thinking when they put the RF connectors on TOP of the
> rockets?
>
>
>
> -Troy
>
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Re: [WISPA] Dealing with ice

2013-02-07 Thread Mike Hammett
Shielding kits?



-
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http://www.ics-il.com

- Original Message -
From: "Troy Settle" 
To: wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2013 2:08:02 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Dealing with ice





I have a site that’s sitting at about 4500’ that took some pretty serious ice 
damage. 



In short, we’re using UBNT’s antennas and the short jumpers that came with 
them. Lost about a half-dozen of them during a recent storm, which really 
didn’t even qualify as an ‘ice storm.’ 



What can I do to help protect these jumpers from getting torn up by ice? 



What was UBNT thinking when they put the RF connectors on TOP of the rockets? 



-Troy 


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[WISPA] Dealing with ice

2013-02-07 Thread Troy Settle
I have a site that's sitting at about 4500' that took some pretty serious
ice damage.

 

In short, we're using UBNT's antennas and the short jumpers that came with
them.  Lost about a half-dozen of them during a recent storm, which really
didn't even qualify as an 'ice storm.'

 

What can I do to help protect these jumpers from getting torn up by ice?

 

What was UBNT thinking when they put the RF connectors on TOP of the
rockets?

 

-Troy

 

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Re: [WISPA] Level3 Explosion?

2013-02-07 Thread Jeremy L. Gaddis
* Matt Hoppes  wrote:
> Did anyone else see an explosion on the Level3 network this morning? 
> They've been up and down all morning since around 2:30 eastern time... 
> just recovered recently.

>From the e-mail notification I received from Level 3 (~13 hours before
the start of the maintenance window):

"Emergency Maintenance Advisement - This maintenance is scheduled."

... and ...

"Level 3 Communications will perform a mandatory network upgrade that
will be service impacting and will impact devices in multiple locations.
We are upgrading the code on portions of the global network to increase
stability for the overall network. During this maintenance activity
customers may be impacted for approximately 30 minutes."

My own guess is that they wanted to quickly get their gear upgraded so
that they weren't caught with their pants down like the last time such a
vulnerability was announced. In that case, someone posted (previously
unknown) exploit details to the full-disclosure mailing list, forcing
many to to delay patching any longer:

  http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2010/Jan/136

On a side note: if you ever want to receive a ton of hate mail from
engineers at large companies and telcos, that's a good way to do it.

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